Caitlin 2023-11-01 6:59 p.m.

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Caitlin pinned a message to this channel. 2023-11-01 6:59 p.m.

Hi

Howdy

So

7:00 p.m.

Uh

umm

7:01 p.m.

How was your day?

Oh boy

7:01 p.m.

The bot

It's working, trust

charlie

How was your day?

Not bad

Are you going to ask me how my day was

good evening compatriots

Good evening nods

7:03 p.m.

It looks like there is hammer day one, which is something

Hello

wazzup

Excited for this game!

Is there a reason why?

@4th Anniversary Finalist if you cant find the game

7:05 p.m.

Its this channel

charlie

Is there a reason why?

Because it's a tournament

I've never done a tournament before

I was very nervous my first tournament, so I'm happy you find this exciting haha

7:08 p.m.

me omw to find the mafia

Lol, I want some more experience and this is one way to gain more imo

Oh you aren't here for the money nods

Nope! (The role sounds nice tho)

Money?

Yeah, you get $250+ if you win

Lol riiiiight

charlie

Oh you aren't here for the money nods

(I don't have any online money thing for it, unless it's a gift card code)

Anemoia/Abyss

(I don't have any online money thing for it, unless it's a gift card code)

I think it's through nitro?

7:10 p.m.

Not sure though...

i didn't even know there was a prize

charlie

Yeah, you get $250+ if you win

I don't anticipate winning anyways, but my goal is to at least get through one thingy

Wait it is real? There is money on the line?

In Nitro pretty sure, like Callahan said

Ok

I didn't join for the money either, I wanted experience as well

I just want to see if I have improved or not

Oh-

Anyways, hi guys, im Mafia

W

7:12 p.m.

Hi Mafiaaa

How you doing?

Good, good

What unlucky bastard is gonna get factional nightkilled by me tonight?

Not me

everyone except me

SUNNY!!

everyone except me

Oh ok

I actually am kind of :/ on the fact there is NK, because if you get killed N1 or lynched D1, then you are fucked and you can't advance I don't think so...

There is one there

7:13 p.m.

Easy catch that one

Guillo

Anyways, hi guys, im Mafia

believable

Also there is targeting that can happen with NK

charlie

I actually am kind of :/ on the fact there is NK, because if you get killed N1 or lynched D1, then you are fucked and you can't advance I don't think so...

isnt being killed N1 a good thing?

Sunny slipped, discuss

what did i do

Guillo

Sunny slipped, discuss

where

SUNNY!!

everyone except me

Lol

ah

7:15 p.m.

a bit of a yoke i see..

lilypetal

isnt being killed N1 a good thing?

Well, not unless you want to advance, I don't think personally, me, using me as a example, can solve the game in one day, so I'm like if I die N1 or get lynched D1 then my chances of going to semi's is like fucked?

i see

7:15 p.m.

i didnt read like

7:15 p.m.

how u quali further

7:15 p.m.

LOL

7:15 p.m.

i didnt read anything

I'm pretty sure we are being graded by performance

oh well thats ez

Ez, i will not be graded at a.l

7:16 p.m.

All

based

Is this lily as in lilypetal?

ye

7:17 p.m.

changed it for u

Cool. I expect you to towntell today

i most likely will

7:17 p.m.

or already have

7:17 p.m.

who knows!

7:17 p.m.

i kinda think ur a wolf tho

7:17 p.m.

and saying that is also kinda wolfy

7:17 p.m.

so eh

charlie

Are you going to ask me how my day was

Sorry i was busy

i think you're likely to be truthful in claiming mafia in your first posts

Yah im a wolf what are you gonna do about it?

Anemoia/Abyss

Excited for this game!

Why

depends on my wim

7:18 p.m.

nge is towny

lilypetal

i think you're likely to be truthful in claiming mafia in your first posts

I mean if he was a new player I would put him as a town lean, but I know he has 20+ yearsofn experience so

What if i threaten you with killing you tonight if you are town

Guillo

What if i threaten you with killing you tonight if you are town

oh nooo soooo scary ><

Ngekop

Sorry i was busy

Still waiting... on my how was my day

charlie

I mean if he was a new player I would put him as a town lean, but I know he has 20+ yearsofn experience so

why?

lilypetal

why?

Skill level

charlie

I mean if he was a new player I would put him as a town lean, but I know he has 20+ yearsofn experience so

20 years??! no way

EasyOnTheHills

me omw to find the mafia

I wish we couldve done it together ;-;

Did you see that logic lily?

charlie

Yeah, you get $250+ if you win

125*

charlie

Skill level

sorry, why does a new player claiming wolf = town lean?

7:19 p.m.

why does 20 years of experience mean it's no longer AI

lilypetal

sorry, why does a new player claiming wolf = town lean?

Okay so, let me place it out, I don't think a new player can open wolf properly.

charlie

Okay so, let me place it out, I don't think a new player can open wolf properly.

ah

Guillo

Anyways, hi guys, im Mafia

I believe it

so you think a newer player/less skilled player is more likely to not be able to play the persona that Guillo embodies here?

7:20 p.m.

thus it's NAI gameplay

7:20 p.m.

because he's experienced

7:20 p.m.

correct?

And im openwolfing properly?

As a new player you are often scared of messing up and leading anything back to you, so I just don't see it, now if Sunny was like Im mafia, I would be yeah sure that is townie because I know he would be too scared to claim mafia as mafia.

charlie

I actually am kind of :/ on the fact there is NK, because if you get killed N1 or lynched D1, then you are fucked and you can't advance I don't think so...

Wdym lmfao

What is openwolfing properly?

N1 kills advance all the time

Ngekop

N1 kills advance all the time

Are you serious LOL

7:21 p.m.

OKAY NVM

lilypetal

isnt being killed N1 a good thing?

As cit fs imo

7:21 p.m.

As mason ehhhh

7:21 p.m.

Unless ofc you lynched a maf d1 or smth

Callahan/Ngekop not aligned

lilypetal

correct?

Yeah basically, I'm not going to ignore someone's experience level, and I'm going to be more wary of them, which is reasonable..?

7:22 p.m.

I played with Gullio before, he has a high scum range

alright callahan i appreciate it

lilypetal

i kinda think ur a wolf tho

Why

Guillo

Callahan/Ngekop not aligned

doesn't seem like any of that was not w/w

Ngekop

Why

guillo is more likely to openwolf as a wolf imo

Ngekop distances as wolf not pockets another wolf

but i also kinda said that to get a reaction

Guillo

Ngekop distances as wolf not pockets another wolf

gotcha

So it is either or, or none

lilypetal

nge is towny

Tf

Nge is scummy actually

lilypetal

guillo is more likely to openwolf as a wolf imo

Okay noted.

Guillo

Nge is scummy actually

why

Because he knows that as a wolf im a nice guy

7:24 p.m.

I give everyone flowers

7:25 p.m.

Dedicate songs

7:25 p.m.

Quite the romantic actually

charlie

Are you serious LOL

Yes 100%

7:25 p.m.

Especially with cait as host

I'd have everyone in my pocket by… tomorrow

Im p sure any cit killed n1 advances

7:25 p.m.

Like 90% sure

Oh okay so I can play more relax, I was like shit I have to figure out the game in one day incase I die early

D1 lynch is different

Ngekop

D1 lynch is different

What do you mean

Guillo

Callahan/Ngekop not aligned

Oh boy we already started

7:26 p.m.

Last time i was maf and i tr’d you for it

Nge saying he believes it when here specifically we played together and knows ima nice wolfy guy

Idk what you are talking about

Who?

stares

You

7:27 p.m.

Who else just spoke modcheck

What is not clear for you?

I just don't remember him ever saying that so

7:28 p.m.

Like ever

charlie

Oh okay so I can play more relax, I was like shit I have to figure out the game in one day incase I die early

this seems like a pre-thought thing

7:29 p.m.

idk

7:29 p.m.

i dont like it lol

Well yeah...?

like Look guys im so towny

I want to advanced ?

I mean the outcome of the conversation

Yes

7:29 p.m.

Calla gives me the LAMIST vibes

I think your nitpicking right now, but its the beginning of the day so I'm not really caring that much

And Calla is not a newbie

Not rly nitpicking, it's lamist like guillo said

7:30 p.m.

tone is off

Okay so how is it LAMIST>

Alright lily towntold, welcome to my pocket lily

I'm basically saying you're faking not knowing how the system works for towny points

I meant towncore ahem

uhuh guillo

How am I faking it? I generally believed it?

charlie

Well, not unless you want to advance, I don't think personally, me, using me as a example, can solve the game in one day, so I'm like if I die N1 or get lynched D1 then my chances of going to semi's is like fucked?

Here...?

charlie

How am I faking it? I generally believed it?

Generally?

Seems nitpicking JJKGetoShrug1

charlie

Oh okay so I can play more relax, I was like shit I have to figure out the game in one day incase I die early

This is a LAMIST post. This is a post going "Look guys, im town. I'm a villager worried about having to solve"

7:32 p.m.

And look. You could be a town making a LAMIST post

7:32 p.m.

but that's why im immediately sus of you

I'm town so I don't really care if you think its LAMIST or not, because omg? I am?

7:32 p.m.

Okay, I hope you stop being sus as the day goes on then ig

Be towny and I'll tr it

Um okay

Guillo

Ngekop distances as wolf not pockets another wolf

How did i pocket calla wat

Guillo

Nge is scummy actually

Then why did you vote calla in us 2

7:33 p.m.

Lmao

Guillo

Because he knows that as a wolf im a nice guy

So?

charlie

What do you mean

I dont see how a d1 lynch can advance lmao

I would say having correct reads

Unless everyone else is awful or it is a maf lynched d1 who made god tier distancing setting their teammate up

Ngekop

Why

Already stated why, look down from that post about 5 msgs

charlie

I would say having correct reads

Ehhh

7:35 p.m.

Maybe ig

7:35 p.m.

You’re right

7:35 p.m.

But that would actually like imply having a 2/2

About to get 2/2 fr

Guillo

Nge saying he believes it when here specifically we played together and knows ima nice wolfy guy

1. Not knowing you were my teammate 2. It’s obv my vote wasn’t serious

lilypetal

this seems like a pre-thought thing

Which is why i tl it actually

7:37 p.m.

It seems real thought said forcefully

7:37 p.m.

Which is actually stuff calla does all the time

meta thats meaningless to me

Ngekop

Then why did you vote calla in us 2

Im flip floping between you

7:38 p.m.

I need to turn on notifications here

7:38 p.m.

I meant off

lilypetal

meta thats meaningless to me

Didn't you just use meta on Guillo....?

lilypetal

guillo is more likely to openwolf as a wolf imo

Here?

i mean

THAT meta is useless to me

Hm ok

because i dont know you lol

Ngekop

1. Not knowing you were my teammate 2. It’s obv my vote wasn’t serious

Every vote is serious to me in a tournament and you like to hide behind “not serious votes” as a wolf.

7:39 p.m.

Im gonna level with you though

Anemoia/Abyss

Already stated why, look down from that post about 5 msgs

If you said bc you flipped town i woulda believed it

lilypetal

THAT meta is useless to me

What is Guillo's town meta?

Imagine losing a chance to get cleared for the whole game

I only have Guillo's scum meta so...

lilypetal

meta thats meaningless to me

Ok?

I consider you a top of the line player here Nge, so im cautious of you

Guillo

Im flip floping between you

Gth rn both are towns so you’re in an awful path

charlie

Didn't you just use meta on Guillo....?

Lel

sunny wyd

Guillo

Every vote is serious to me in a tournament and you like to hide behind “not serious votes” as a wolf.

That’s true

7:41 p.m.

I however

7:41 p.m.

Dont take this more seriously than a regular game on this server

lilypetal

sunny wyd

just like silently reading here

Guillo

I consider you a top of the line player here Nge, so im cautious of you

As you should

7:41 p.m.

I dont expect to be tr’d d1 lol

thoughts?

I expect to be a n1-3 kill

Ngekop

Gth rn both are towns so you’re in an awful path

I dont think so, i’d bet my prestige on one of you being a wolf

Me waiting for Guillo's town meta

Guillo

I dont think so, i’d bet my prestige on one of you being a wolf

Huh

7:42 p.m.

Interesting

charlie

What is Guillo's town meta?

i dont have concrete meta on guillo hes just like a loose cannon lol

Tbf i havent sr’d calla one single time in this server

If i was a day vig i’d shoot one right now and if they flip town i yeet the other

I however am way more confident on her town when she is

Guillo

If i was a day vig i’d shoot one right now and if they flip town i yeet the other

Gl with that

Ngekop

If you said bc you flipped town i woulda believed it

Really? Yikes, I wouldn't believe it

lilypetal

i dont have concrete meta on guillo hes just like a loose cannon lol

Oh okay, but you would say he is more likely to open wolf as scum though, and that's concrete enough to say?

Also hi back

charlie

Oh okay, but you would say he is more likely to open wolf as scum though, and that's concrete enough to say?

yea

Anemoia/Abyss

Really? Yikes, I wouldn't believe it

Nooooooooo

7:43 p.m.

Pls dont be scum

Ngekop

Gl with that

Well you dont have to wish me luck cause there are no vigs lol

Nooooooo

7:43 p.m.

;-;

Interesting nods

Ngekop

Pls dont be scum

I'm not

You are

7:43 p.m.

Like

7:44 p.m.

You p much

7:44 p.m.

Just gave that away like rn

Im confused

Hi sunny

7:44 p.m.

Hi confused

7:44 p.m.

Im ngekop

hello

Ngekop

Just gave that away like rn

Heh?

iam here

the dad jokes

Hi Sunnnyyy

Ngekop

As you should

So should i or should i not be serious in a tournament cause im getting mixed signals here

Anemoia/Abyss

Heh?

You would be confident on you being town and on being aware i would either tmi it as maf or figure it out just like that

7:45 p.m.

Instead of actually thinking of what you say could get tr’d or not

Guillo

So should i or should i not be serious in a tournament cause im getting mixed signals here

Uh

7:46 p.m.

Whatever you prefer? Lmao

7:46 p.m.

If you want to take it seriously i would def be aware of me nmw unless we were partners in any sense

So should i be cautious of you? Or not?

And if we were partners i’d fake it in your place

Guillo

So should i be cautious of you? Or not?

Up to you

What is this convo

Idk

7:46 p.m.

Lol

7:47 p.m.

Guillo asking me how should he play and me responding

7:47 p.m.

Ok so

Ngekop

Up to you

Why leave me the choice?

Guillo why are you even asking him that though?

No one talking about how i caught @Anemoia/Abyss and he’s currently frozen?

why would he not leave you the choice

charlie

Guillo why are you even asking him that though?

Let me cook

Guillo

Why leave me the choice?

Bc it is your choice?

SUNNY!!

why would he not leave you the choice

Love this kid

Ngekop

No one talking about how i caught @Anemoia/Abyss and he’s currently frozen?

I'm a bit confused about how you caught him, like his "Also hi back?"

7:48 p.m.

You have to explain more tbf

charlie

I'm a bit confused about how you caught him, like his "Also hi back?"

Does it even matter? He froze

Guillo

Let me cook

I'm allowing you to have the kitchen

Ngekop

Does it even matter? He froze

OHHHH

7:48 p.m.

Ngekop

You would be confident on you being town and on being aware i would either tmi it as maf or figure it out just like that

I said smth here and later btw

Ngekop

Bc it is your choice?

Ok but why do you subconsciously think it may be prudent to be cautious of you in this game?

Bc i consider myself a good player

@Anemoia/Abyss Whats your thoughts right now

Ngekop

Bc i consider myself a good player

Are you a threat to me?

If you are mafia i’d hope so

7:49 p.m.

If you are town then no

7:49 p.m.

But you wouldnt know that

7:49 p.m.

So

7:49 p.m.

Then again idk what do you want from this

Hmmm ok

Sunny

7:50 p.m.

Wya

here

If i told you it’d lose purpose

Finish typing btw

Guillo

If i told you it’d lose purpose

‍♂️

Ngekop

Finish typing btw

Who?

Sunny

7:50 p.m.

He stopped to answer “here”

Oh good

And i saw him saying smth like “LET ME SPEAK” in like 1-2 games before

@charlie if you had a gun who you’d shoot right now?

Im telling him to just finish typing whatever he is saying

7:51 p.m.

And then see what was said in between

Guillo

Are you a threat to me?

okay i was typing why do you keep asking those kinds of questions

isn't that like something you should be figuring out yourself this is just really weird to me, unless this is some weird strat

️

Sunny confirm this to me pls

7:52 p.m.

You havent rolled scum in this server yet, right?

sadly

Before this game at least

7:53 p.m.

Ok

7:53 p.m.

So yeah i have 0 meta on you

haha

Guillo

@charlie if you had a gun who you’d shoot right now?

I think you, because I don't know where your convo with Nge is leading to or what the intention behind it is. Because you seemed to be trying ig kind of game solve in the beginning but then you are now just asking random questions that don't seem to have a point other than to add confusion?

Hey guys

7:53 p.m.

Can someone help me get like

7:54 p.m.

2-3 votes on abyss

7:54 p.m.

Oh yeah

7:54 p.m.

I read how to scum hunt guide before this game dont even try me rn

@Anemoia/Abyss why arent you answering to me ;-;

charlie

I think you, because I don't know where your convo with Nge is leading to or what the intention behind it is. Because you seemed to be trying ig kind of game solve in the beginning but then you are now just asking random questions that don't seem to have a point other than to add confusion?

So an OMGUS shot because you dont understand me? You usually kill shit you don’t understand? That’s very…. Human

That’s

Guillo

So an OMGUS shot because you dont understand me? You usually kill shit you don’t understand? That’s very…. Human

I may or may not be human...

Not how omgus works

Guillo

So an OMGUS shot because you dont understand me? You usually kill shit you don’t understand? That’s very…. Human

what ARE you waffling about

@Ziel :D is here too!

Ngekop

Not how omgus works

I’d appreciate you dont nose in

7:55 p.m.

You had your turn

7:56 p.m.

Now it is calla’s turn

Lmao

I think I'm like hmm about you right now Guillo because I haven't played with town you yet, only scum, and I remember your paragraphs as scum and you are playing so weirdly rn

Hmmmmm

are we passing around the talking stick rn it's a public channel

Which I dont know if its because you decided to open wolf or this is town you

God can abyss say smth pls

charlie

I think I'm like hmm about you right now Guillo because I haven't played with town you yet, only scum, and I remember your paragraphs as scum and you are playing so weirdly rn

So you played with me as scum and my play is weirder than that play and im still scum? Interesting

Guillo

Now it is calla’s turn

I'm ready

Guillo

So you played with me as scum and my play is weirder than that play and im still scum? Interesting

You have to read my paragraph underneath...

Ok

7:57 p.m.

So uh

charlie

You have to read my paragraph underneath...

This is why I'm also asking for town meta on you

Me/guillo/calla/sunny/lily/abyss/ziel/easy/genesis

7:58 p.m.

GENESIS

7:58 p.m.

TRUE

7:58 p.m.

@genesischaos bro

7:58 p.m.

Wait you sleeping

7:58 p.m.

Nvm

charlie

This is why I'm also asking for town meta on you

Ma57 d1

7:58 p.m.

Him as mayor

7:59 p.m.

That’s the only game not 6 months ago i have with him as town

Ngekop

Ma57 d1

Okay I really don't wanna look through the old games to be honest, so is he acting the same here or no?

WAIT

7:59 p.m.

EASY IS

7:59 p.m.

EOTH

YE

AKA CALLA’S BUDDY

hwat

BROOOOO HE WAS MY MASON PARTNER Why

IUFHIUEHFDRIUWE

@Anemoia/Abyss WHYYYYYY

WHAF HAPPENWD

@SUNNY!! what am i

8:01 p.m.

What is calla

8:01 p.m.

Go

um uhhm

8:02 p.m.

calla is calla nge is nge

Tru

8:03 p.m.

What about our roles

8:04 p.m.

@SUNNY!!

8:04 p.m.

You have to go 2/2 today

8:04 p.m.

I’ll help you tho

LMFAO

But you gotta do your part

i don't know your roles

am i missing something

Yes

8:05 p.m.

It should be kinda obv

8:05 p.m.

Both my role and her role

8:07 p.m.

So im asking you to find them

citizens...?

Are you asking me or telling me

8:09 p.m.

…

im so lost why are you asking me to guess your role i can't be sure just yet, i don't think it's very obvious

@Toof (Sam) how do you this lol i can’t play like that

8:10 p.m.

So uh

8:10 p.m.

Change of plans

8:10 p.m.

I get n1’d

8:10 p.m.

Cait advances me

8:10 p.m.

And we move on

SUNNY!!

im so lost why are you asking me to guess your role i can't be sure just yet, i don't think it's very obvious

Bc i want you to start making and sharing reads

8:11 p.m.

Wdym why am i asking you

sorry if i'm not understanding what you're asking, but im neutral with calla and maybe a TL with you? i just don't know why you want me to say the exact role i think you guys are

So abyss just had to go afk rn smh, great! @lilypetal what did you get from saying i was towny? Or what did you expect to get? @charlie i dont tr your approach on guillo ;-;

SUNNY!!

sorry if i'm not understanding what you're asking, but im neutral with calla and maybe a TL with you? i just don't know why you want me to say the exact role i think you guys are

I mean when i asked you what were we you said nge and calla so like

8:15 p.m.

Why tl on me btw

8:15 p.m.

60% if my behavior is uh

8:15 p.m.

Disingenuous

8:16 p.m.

of*

Ngekop

So abyss just had to go afk rn smh, great! @lilypetal what did you get from saying i was towny? Or what did you expect to get? @charlie i dont tr your approach on guillo ;-;

Where did you feel like my approach was wrong..?

Never said it was wrong

8:17 p.m.

I just didnt tr it

Well you say you don't tr it, so obviously something you don't agree on it

The way you went around it

I'm a bit confused I'm ngl

charlie

Well you say you don't tr it, so obviously something you don't agree on it

That’s

8:18 p.m.

Not true

So you agree with me?

8:18 p.m.

Whats the problem?

But i got similar vibes to what i got from your approach on me

8:18 p.m.

In ma59

8:18 p.m.

Which was like

8:18 p.m.

The one thing from you that ringed scum to me

I'm town this game, I change how I play each game, this is something most ppl know, I guess just keep reading me, not sure what else to say

I know

8:20 p.m.

It’s not s like tangible meta read

8:21 p.m.

But im just sharing a feeling i shared there

Yeah, which is good, thank u

And that concerned me a bit here

Ngekop

It’s not s like tangible meta read

a*

Your helping me read u

I intend on solving your slot d1

8:22 p.m.

My plan was to get two tr’s and lynch scum d1

8:22 p.m.

Now it is to get 4 tr’s

Ngekop

So abyss just had to go afk rn smh, great! @lilypetal what did you get from saying i was towny? Or what did you expect to get? @charlie i dont tr your approach on guillo ;-;

wat

And hope at least one mason is outside of there

lilypetal

wat

You said i was towny

8:22 p.m.

When i had like

and?

3 game related posts

so?

8:22 p.m.

mad?

Ngekop

And hope at least one mason is outside of there

anti town behavior

So i really doubt it was purely a genuine thought

lilypetal

anti town behavior

What

This game sure has a lot of creative personalities huh

it was a gut read

8:23 p.m.

lol

charlie

This game sure has a lot of creative personalities huh

towny anti pockety behavior

lilypetal

towny anti pockety behavior

idk what this mean but probs slay idk

lilypetal

it was a gut read

But like i’d believe you tried to get smth from it

Ngekop

I mean when i asked you what were we you said nge and calla so like

actually read through more and now im turning towards neutral still need more but now im not sure about the tl

charlie

idk what this mean but probs slay idk

im saying that post is like

8:24 p.m.

kind of mean and agressive

8:24 p.m.

means ur probs town

SUNNY!!

actually read through more and now im turning towards neutral still need more but now im not sure about the tl

What made you change

I'm not trying to be mean

8:25 p.m.

You mean null Sunny

8:25 p.m.

Not neutral

nuh uh

I don’t mean to be mean but that’s all i can be it’s just me

SUNNY!!

nuh uh

girlie there is no third party in here

@SUNNY!! dont stop typing omfg

Ngekop

What made you change

^

Ngekop

What made you change

reading through past games where you were scum ive seen some similarities, feel like you're acting the same in some areas,,,, im not sure if this counts as meta though so its more of a ~~neutral~~ null read

In what ways is he acting the same?

SUNNY!!

actually read through more and now im turning towards neutral still need more but now im not sure about the tl

wat

why did you ping just to say that...

Sunny my question

8:29 p.m.

I want you to expand on what you said

8:31 p.m.

Oh okay we gatekeeping ig

hell yeah

8:32 p.m.

ok but actually there's like 200 pages of messages so

Okay well obviously there is something similar you saw, so you can name at least something?

8:33 p.m.

Sunny, we've been over this, you can't just say something but not explain and then expect people to agree with you

SUNNY!!

reading through past games where you were scum ive seen some similarities, feel like you're acting the same in some areas,,,, im not sure if this counts as meta though so its more of a ~~neutral~~ null read

Can you elaborate on which areas are those pls

8:37 p.m.

Yeah what callahan said

SUNNY!!

why did you ping just to say that...

Sunny how long you’ve been playing Mafia if i may ask?

charlie

Okay well obviously there is something similar you saw, so you can name at least something?

NO I UNDERSTAND THAT NOO i just feel the need to have a whole paragraph to say something about people like nge one of the things i saw is that he says a lot of stuff like "oh if i was mafia i would do this and not that", and his whole conversation with guillo just gave me that vibe? like he's just trying to quietly imply he isn't mafia. the vote on abyss is pretty weird too, since they didn't say anything aside from "im not scum". not enough to lynch someone imo

also his votes seem to switch up pretty quickly but that might not always be a scum indicator

it's also an issue with me since i can't tell what's serious or not on d1, and i feel like people will just lie and say scummy things they said were jokes

Guillo

Sunny how long you’ve been playing Mafia if i may ask?

127 years, 3 months

SUNNY!!

127 years, 3 months

Im being serious please.

oh i dunno actually haven't been counting

SUNNY!!

NO I UNDERSTAND THAT NOO i just feel the need to have a whole paragraph to say something about people like nge one of the things i saw is that he says a lot of stuff like "oh if i was mafia i would do this and not that", and his whole conversation with guillo just gave me that vibe? like he's just trying to quietly imply he isn't mafia. the vote on abyss is pretty weird too, since they didn't say anything aside from "im not scum". not enough to lynch someone imo

also his votes seem to switch up pretty quickly but that might not always be a scum indicator

it's also an issue with me since i can't tell what's serious or not on d1, and i feel like people will just lie and say scummy things they said were jokes

Okay icic, could you point towards where he was quietly implying he wasn't mafia? Also, the vote on Abyss is due to the fact he froze up, which is also why I'm on him. nods

Is it more than 10 games or less?

Guillo

Im being serious please.

Sunny is new, I would say this is there 5th mafia game, which is why I used them as a example

8:42 p.m.

When I spoke about experience

Ok

SUNNY!!

NO I UNDERSTAND THAT NOO i just feel the need to have a whole paragraph to say something about people like nge one of the things i saw is that he says a lot of stuff like "oh if i was mafia i would do this and not that", and his whole conversation with guillo just gave me that vibe? like he's just trying to quietly imply he isn't mafia. the vote on abyss is pretty weird too, since they didn't say anything aside from "im not scum". not enough to lynch someone imo

also his votes seem to switch up pretty quickly but that might not always be a scum indicator

it's also an issue with me since i can't tell what's serious or not on d1, and i feel like people will just lie and say scummy things they said were jokes

Also, I wanna make sure you understand RVS which is random voting stage, a lot of votes seem meaningless and don't have much depth but most of us are in RVS right now, or what I'm assuming.

8:44 p.m.

Guillo's vote on me could be RVS or a actually reason, I'm not sure, but I think Nge's vote on Gullio was RVS

Ngekop

60% if my behavior is uh

Nge is English your native language?

charlie

Okay icic, could you point towards where he was quietly implying he wasn't mafia? Also, the vote on Abyss is due to the fact he froze up, which is also why I'm on him. nods

I have done that this game

8:45 p.m.

He isnt wrong

Guillo

Is it more than 10 games or less?

Less def

Ngekop

He isnt wrong

Oh okay got you

8:46 p.m.

Wait isn't that what your suppose to do tho

Guillo

Nge is English your native language?

No

charlie

Guillo's vote on me could be RVS or a actually reason, I'm not sure, but I think Nge's vote on Gullio was RVS

Mine is not RvS

8:46 p.m.

And I broke RvS

Guillo

Mine is not RvS

Could you explain why you voted me then?

charlie

Wait isn't that what your suppose to do tho

‍♂️

We’ve been playing seriously since i claimed mafia

charlie

Also, I wanna make sure you understand RVS which is random voting stage, a lot of votes seem meaningless and don't have much depth but most of us are in RVS right now, or what I'm assuming.

i understand rvs yeah yeah it seemed to me that with their whole convo that he had a reason to believe guillo was scum considering the questions guillo was asking thwn the switch to abyss was a bit sudden, especially for a little reason i at least wanna give abyss a chance to speak, to see if they actually froze or just,, went to sleep or something maybe i don't understand what freezing means but

8:47 p.m.

yapping sorry

Your not yapping

8:47 p.m.

AT ALL

I understand

8:47 p.m.

No worries

SUNNY!!

i understand rvs yeah yeah it seemed to me that with their whole convo that he had a reason to believe guillo was scum considering the questions guillo was asking thwn the switch to abyss was a bit sudden, especially for a little reason i at least wanna give abyss a chance to speak, to see if they actually froze or just,, went to sleep or something maybe i don't understand what freezing means but

Well i clearly wanted him to say something

Ngekop

No

Ok ty

SUNNY!!

i understand rvs yeah yeah it seemed to me that with their whole convo that he had a reason to believe guillo was scum considering the questions guillo was asking thwn the switch to abyss was a bit sudden, especially for a little reason i at least wanna give abyss a chance to speak, to see if they actually froze or just,, went to sleep or something maybe i don't understand what freezing means but

Okay i got you nods

8:49 p.m.

Me waiting for Gullio to reply to me britneyjean

like im not going to bite SMILE

SUNNY!!

NO I UNDERSTAND THAT NOO i just feel the need to have a whole paragraph to say something about people like nge one of the things i saw is that he says a lot of stuff like "oh if i was mafia i would do this and not that", and his whole conversation with guillo just gave me that vibe? like he's just trying to quietly imply he isn't mafia. the vote on abyss is pretty weird too, since they didn't say anything aside from "im not scum". not enough to lynch someone imo

also his votes seem to switch up pretty quickly but that might not always be a scum indicator

it's also an issue with me since i can't tell what's serious or not on d1, and i feel like people will just lie and say scummy things they said were jokes

is this player a good wolf?

Nge?

this seems like a townclearing post

charlie

Sunny is new, I would say this is there 5th mafia game, which is why I used them as a example

o

8:50 p.m.

locktown

8:50 p.m.

yeah

lilypetal

is this player a good wolf?

We havent seen him as scum

8:50 p.m.

He hasnt rolled that

8:50 p.m.

Yet

well

Oh sunny

a very pure post

8:50 p.m.

lol

It is a good one yes

8:56 p.m.

I havent seen lily as mafia

8:56 p.m.

Which kinda sucks

8:56 p.m.

Good player + no meta on her is

8:56 p.m.

Not a good combination

8:57 p.m.

Sunny looking good and calla semi good

8:57 p.m.

Im sad abyss still hasnt posted since i voted him

have ziel and easy said anything?

Ziel no, EOTH just uh

oh yea he just posted a gif

Yeah said two things

I'm back

8:59 p.m.

Sorry, had stuff happening

8:59 p.m.

Imma backread now

Anemoia/Abyss

Imma backread now

Okay give me your thoughts after you backread

SUNNY!!

have ziel and easy said anything?

Easy sent 2 posts one of them being a gif

Well I backread enough from my last msg to know the Nge suses me-

But more stuff happened after that?

9:02 p.m.

Are you not going to read that lol?

I am

ok

I'm just commenting on the way

Ngekop

@Anemoia/Abyss why arent you answering to me ;-;

When your parents are Arguing it's kinda hard to focus on anything :/ Anyways yeah imma just going to respond as I go down

Oh sorry, dude take your time

9:05 p.m.

Focus on IRL things over mafia

charlie

Focus on IRL things over mafia

This

9:06 p.m.

:/

Is it bad I want to unvote bc of that reason SMILE

I mean it’s your vote

9:07 p.m.

Hi guillo

SUNNY!!

im so lost why are you asking me to guess your role i can't be sure just yet, i don't think it's very obvious

Seems Genuine

Hmmm, why does that seem like a parrot comment

charlie

Sunny, we've been over this, you can't just say something but not explain and then expect people to agree with you

I like the push for good habits(idk if it's NAI or not, but it looks good in my eyes)

Anemoia/Abyss

I like the push for good habits(idk if it's NAI or not, but it looks good in my eyes)

What do you mean by good habits?

Hi again guillo

charlie

Could you explain why you voted me then?

Because i thought you were LAMIST but now that i reread your content holistically i think you are town.

Holistically?

SUNNY!!

i understand rvs yeah yeah it seemed to me that with their whole convo that he had a reason to believe guillo was scum considering the questions guillo was asking thwn the switch to abyss was a bit sudden, especially for a little reason i at least wanna give abyss a chance to speak, to see if they actually froze or just,, went to sleep or something maybe i don't understand what freezing means but

Not biased, but in my opinion these are towny thoughts

Me being a native English speaker and not knowing what holistically means

I think Sunny is newbie town, he’s got level 0 logic that i ser a lot from newbie town

charlie

Is it bad I want to unvote bc of that reason SMILE

Don't let that change your vote, if it's the only thing

charlie

What do you mean by good habits?

Like, explaining things and such

Anemoia/Abyss

Like, explaining things and such

Isn't that what I told you last game

9:15 p.m.

On how to read town

Yes-

Thank you for using my advice LOL

But like- still

Like he associates voting a lot with scum behavior which i see often from newbie town because they think scum are indecisive when it comes to voting which is totally the contrary

charlie

Thank you for using my advice LOL

LOL

Guillo

Like he associates voting a lot with scum behavior which i see often from newbie town because they think scum are indecisive when it comes to voting which is totally the contrary

nuh uh

Yes Sunny

Guillo

Like he associates voting a lot with scum behavior which i see often from newbie town because they think scum are indecisive when it comes to voting which is totally the contrary

I think I'm more indecisive as town and vote with a clear target as scum

9:16 p.m.

So yeah, I agree

Yeah, but scum feel like if they vote someone wrong they will get uncovered nods

Ok, I'm finally getting stuff in

Town use their votes to pressure before and we are uninfirmed so we dont have perfect reads, so naturally we are gonna be voting different people often

Thats why you often see scum stuck on votes, and won't reread

charlie

Yeah, but scum feel like if they vote someone wrong they will get uncovered nods

As scum I don't think too much about that, it's more like what do I say to get the pressure off of me

9:18 p.m.

And yes I am aware this is going to be used against me in future Mafia games

No no, keep talking

But that's just me as scum

I wanna hear how you play as scum

I don't know about the others

charlie

I wanna hear how you play as scum

Ermm... nUH-uHhhh

Anemoia/Abyss

Don't let that change your vote, if it's the only thing

Abyss and callahan not teamed pingu

Town*^ Sunny Lily Callahan Maybe** Nge

9:19 p.m.

Ffs

Ngekop

Abyss and callahan not teamed pingu

Wha-

9:19 p.m.

Why?

It means we arent SVS

Town Sunny Lily Callahan Maybe Nge

9:20 p.m.

So maybe forget anything i said about putting my prestige on the line today

Guillo

Yes Sunny

I didn't mean to say I associate voting a lot = scum, i do that a lot when I'm town

It's that switching off someone quickly with small reasons for doing so, especially when they seemed to have a good reason for their past vote was just a bit weird to me, if that isn't necessarily scum behavior to you then idk

‍♂️ ive literally been playing mafia before the big bang don't play w me :/

LMFAO

9:20 p.m.

Sunny is 1,000 years old fr

SUNNY!!

I didn't mean to say I associate voting a lot = scum, i do that a lot when I'm town

It's that switching off someone quickly with small reasons for doing so, especially when they seemed to have a good reason for their past vote was just a bit weird to me, if that isn't necessarily scum behavior to you then idk

‍♂️ ive literally been playing mafia before the big bang don't play w me :/

So you are not a newbie?

charlie

It means we arent SVS

Ohhhhh

Wait the big bang happened further

Cause if you are not my read changes drastically

Guillo

So you are not a newbie?

nuh uh i just forget a lot yknow old age :/

Wait wha- how would Nge figure that out?

How we interact JJKGetoShrug1

9:21 p.m.

Basically

9:22 p.m.

I don't really look at interactions until scum flips and then I read back but some ppl can do it without extra knowledge

.

9:22 p.m.

I don't get it

SUNNY!!

nuh uh i just forget a lot yknow old age :/

If you claim to be a mafia vet i will judge you as such Sunny

yahoo

Anemoia/Abyss

I don't get it

Like when you see two players talking, and they are speaking and interacting you put them in three slots, SvS, TvS, TvT, basically if two scum are interacting, scum and town interacting, or town and town interacting

9:23 p.m.

So Nge doesn't think we are two scum speaking to each other

charlie

Sunny is new, I would say this is there 5th mafia game, which is why I used them as a example

Ok is Sunny new or not?

Guillo

Ok is Sunny new or not?

Yes

Icic

I mentor them imgaslightingyou

I want a mento-

9:24 p.m.

/jjj

Nge mentored u?

Ok, then tell your student to stop claiming he is not, we need transparency here

Right

Anemoia/Abyss

Wait wha- how would Nge figure that out?

Figure what out

Guillo

Ok, then tell your student to stop claiming he is not, we need transparency here

LOL

but it adds a little fun tho

Guillo

Ok, then tell your student to stop claiming he is not, we need transparency here

BOOOOOORING

Oh the mvm thingy

SUNNY KNOWS WHAT IS UP

But like- wouldn't it be cool to have like a Mafia guru to teach you the ways of the game? :0

charlie

I don't really look at interactions until scum flips and then I read back but some ppl can do it without extra knowledge

It’s useless af to me ngl

Ngekop

Oh the mvm thingy

Ye

Like it fr is

Callahan/Sunny not aligned

But hey why not when i see it

Ngekop

It’s useless af to me ngl

It's only useful when scum actually flips

9:26 p.m.

And then u can look back

9:26 p.m.

And be like hmmm

charlie

I don't really look at interactions until scum flips and then I read back but some ppl can do it without extra knowledge

Me

9:26 p.m.

me and sunny fr

Ir is not useless and careful scum often say it is

REAL

charlie

It's only useful when scum actually flips

Ehhh

9:26 p.m.

Im lazy ngl

Guillo

Ir is not useless and careful scum often say it is

I said to me

Guillo

Me

I literally remember my first game with u, and u constantly did it

9:27 p.m.

I mean you were scum

I dont remember the last time i solved correctly using that

but I was eating it up

And yep

9:27 p.m.

Guillo seems to do those

charlie

I literally remember my first game with u, and u constantly did it

That is because i was duplicating my town game

As either alignment

No

What is Gullio's town meta

Well

9:28 p.m.

I guess

Guillo

That is because i was duplicating my town game

Duplicating your town game when the only person knowing your meta is your partner

Ngekop

Duplicating your town game when the only person knowing your meta is your partner

Nah, im world famous

didn't even know you existed until game started ngl

I will be signing autographs post game

SUNNY!!

didn't even know you existed until game started ngl

That is because you are a newbie

SUNNY!!

didn't even know you existed until game started ngl

How do you not know Guillo smh

charlie

How do you not know Guillo smh

This knows whats up

Guillo

Nah, im world famous

I mean, I know you

Guillo

Town Sunny Lily Callahan Maybe Nge

Wait, I forgot to ask, can you explain on Lily being town, and also why Nge is null, like what made you not put him as a town read or a scum read

charlie

Wait, I forgot to ask, can you explain on Lily being town, and also why Nge is null, like what made you not put him as a town read or a scum read

Lily It is a mixture tonality and meta activity read. Like as scum she is less curious? She stays out of trouble more.

10:09 p.m.

Nge is null primarily because i didnt like his entrance? Saying that he believes that I’d openwolf when he has only played with me here and ive never openwolfed here. From lily i inderstood the comment because she has seen me openwolf at MU but Nge has not, so it felt opportunistic from him to vote for that reason coincidentally after Lily sussed me and then he claimed it was not serious which he does as scum, then he said it is true he does it as scum which he also does as scum admitting to what he does as scum).

10:09 p.m.

But

10:10 p.m.

Tonally he is less pockety? Like more assertive in his thoughts and the way he scrutinizes people

10:10 p.m.

So I’m mixed

10:11 p.m.

With caution cause his scum game is similar to mine, that guy is fearless as scum

10:14 p.m.

Im gonna say though that unlike any other non competitive games, my approach this game is that you must earn your townread from me every phase. Meaning, every when it comes to getting in my towncore, you have to do it every phase, no cred from past phases from me.

Guillo

Im gonna say though that unlike any other non competitive games, my approach this game is that you must earn your townread from me every phase. Meaning, every when it comes to getting in my towncore, you have to do it every phase, no cred from past phases from me.

They way I played with someone who is like this...

Guillo

Nge is null primarily because i didnt like his entrance? Saying that he believes that I’d openwolf when he has only played with me here and ive never openwolfed here. From lily i inderstood the comment because she has seen me openwolf at MU but Nge has not, so it felt opportunistic from him to vote for that reason coincidentally after Lily sussed me and then he claimed it was not serious which he does as scum, then he said it is true he does it as scum which he also does as scum admitting to what he does as scum).

Bro i didnt even see lily said you could be maf when i voted you

10:14 p.m.

Lol

Guillo

Nge is null primarily because i didnt like his entrance? Saying that he believes that I’d openwolf when he has only played with me here and ive never openwolfed here. From lily i inderstood the comment because she has seen me openwolf at MU but Nge has not, so it felt opportunistic from him to vote for that reason coincidentally after Lily sussed me and then he claimed it was not serious which he does as scum, then he said it is true he does it as scum which he also does as scum admitting to what he does as scum).

All the other meta stuff is correct tho

Ngekop

Bro i didnt even see lily said you could be maf when i voted you

Sure but i dont know that and you cant prove it so…

Guillo

Sure but i dont know that and you cant prove it so…

So what? You can’t prove the other either

10:15 p.m.

It’s my word against…nothing really

charlie

They way I played with someone who is like this...

This is honestly one of the best like ways to play in my opinion, because you are pushing town to play rather then sitting comfortable if they are in your towncore nods

No but it is you who has to convince me

Yeah

10:16 p.m.

Ik

I played with someone who played like that

10:16 p.m.

I had to earn his town read on me

Yah

10:16 p.m.

This way no one rides on ild town cred

It forced me to not slack and actually always tried to help town 24/7

Guillo

No but it is you who has to convince me

Not really

Old

You are using a point that is fake from the very start

10:17 p.m.

I cant do nothing against that other than point out your point isnt true

10:17 p.m.

Anything*

Ngekop

You are using a point that is fake from the very start

It is not fake from my point of view, to me you could be scum echoing Lily’s thoughts to provide false positive support for her

Ngekop

I cant do nothing against that other than point out your point isnt true

Correct

I didnt even provide support to her tho

Guillo

Nge is null primarily because i didnt like his entrance? Saying that he believes that I’d openwolf when he has only played with me here and ive never openwolfed here. From lily i inderstood the comment because she has seen me openwolf at MU but Nge has not, so it felt opportunistic from him to vote for that reason coincidentally after Lily sussed me and then he claimed it was not serious which he does as scum, then he said it is true he does it as scum which he also does as scum admitting to what he does as scum).

I like how you think though, I didn't actually notice that about Nge just stating a random statement without actual proof, do you feel like that might be open-wolfing? If he claims he's doing something he does it as scum and doing it? Or do you think it's TWTBW?

I just said i believed you and voted you

10:19 p.m.

Without seeing any post from lily

charlie

I like how you think though, I didn't actually notice that about Nge just stating a random statement without actual proof, do you feel like that might be open-wolfing? If he claims he's doing something he does it as scum and doing it? Or do you think it's TWTBW?

Nge truth wolves pretty much the same as i di

10:19 p.m.

Do

And i never addressed her stuff on you

10:19 p.m.

Since it’s meta i can’t verify on my own mostly

10:19 p.m.

So idk where do you get your support thingy from

The support does not have to be direct

10:20 p.m.

And we both know this

charlie

I like how you think though, I didn't actually notice that about Nge just stating a random statement without actual proof, do you feel like that might be open-wolfing? If he claims he's doing something he does it as scum and doing it? Or do you think it's TWTBW?

LMFAO

Guillo

Nge truth wolves pretty much the same as i di

Well the games I played with you, you were a deep wolf in my opinion, but this is looking like open wolf

Guillo

The support does not have to be direct

I didnt even address it tho

10:20 p.m.

I was the first vote iirc

No

charlie

Well the games I played with you, you were a deep wolf in my opinion, but this is looking like open wolf

From your perspective

I clearly didnt know there was anything about it before

Oh well yes

Since i had to do nothing about it when reading your post

10:21 p.m.

Then see what lily said

10:21 p.m.

Then thinking of saying the same thing pretending i didnt see what lily said

10:21 p.m.

Then vote you

But not the first to sus me for it, lily was, in the way you did right after

Now that sequence is smth i have never done

Ngekop

LMFAO

Let me ask questions im trying to understand u dont gotta comment on it everyonewasgagged

At least not as scum

Ok

charlie

Let me ask questions im trying to understand u dont gotta comment on it everyonewasgagged

I gotta tho

10:21 p.m.

The TWTBAW was funny

10:21 p.m.

I couldnt hold myself there

:(

You can do stuff as both alignments

10:22 p.m.

I did that as town

Yeah of course, but I want his opinion on it

Just acknowledged i do that specifically as scum too

10:22 p.m.

So

thats why im asking him, not you

Admitting to that is just being honest about it

10:22 p.m.

Ok but

10:22 p.m.

That still makes no sense

10:22 p.m.

Anyways

What makes no sense?

It makes no sense to u, but it makes sense to me so

@Anemoia/Abyss you never commented

100%

On me voting you

10:23 p.m.

And my reasons for that

charlie

It makes no sense to u, but it makes sense to me so

‍♂️

10:23 p.m.

Doesnt make you right

10:23 p.m.

(You arent)

Doesnt make you right?

10:23 p.m.

Like?

10:23 p.m.

I'm trying to understand his thought progress, don't discredit someone

Guillo

What makes no sense?

Accepting smth can be in your scum range being TWTBAW or even close to that

charlie

I'm trying to understand his thought progress, don't discredit someone

Ok but that part still was a huge stretch that kinda makes no sense no matter how you approach it

10:24 p.m.

You even complained all your scum game about this

10:24 p.m.

Which btw wasnt even true there

Ngekop

Ok but that part still was a huge stretch that kinda makes no sense no matter how you approach it

I feel like if he thinks its that way, then he can think its that way?

Ngekop

@Anemoia/Abyss you never commented

Onnn?

But idt he does and if he claims he does im voting him bc no town thinks that way

Well thats why im asking him if he think its that way

~~Then why are we even arguing if we agree there~~

Idk

10:25 p.m.

Funny

Oh you voting me?

10:25 p.m.

Idrc

Anemoia/Abyss

Oh you voting me?

And the reasons i gave

Anemoia/Abyss

Idrc

Huh?

What are your reasons,m

10:26 p.m.

I probably will care if your reasons are bad

You dont care dor my reasons for voting you?

10:26 p.m.

For*

Anemoia/Abyss

I probably will care if your reasons are bad

Well that’s kinda why

Idk what your reasons are

You care in the first place

So I can't decide whether I care or not

Well

10:27 p.m.

Why havent you

10:27 p.m.

Read them

10:27 p.m.

Or asked for them

I did

10:28 p.m.

whats up guys

charlie

I like how you think though, I didn't actually notice that about Nge just stating a random statement without actual proof, do you feel like that might be open-wolfing? If he claims he's doing something he does it as scum and doing it? Or do you think it's TWTBW?

It could go either way, when you are playing against a scum player who is literally fearless about admitting to your face what he does as scum you are in trouble because honesty is townread more often than not, the only way to catch them is on the micro level, hence why im mixed about Ngekop and hence why I’m psychoanalyzing him 24/7

Anemoia/Abyss

What are your reasons,m

^^^

what have i missed so far

Idk tbh

EasyOnTheHills

what have i missed so far

read

Nge views me as sus, but I've been busy with family so that's all I know except that some people view Sunny as town pretty sure

10:29 p.m.

Sunny seems genuine to me so

Do you have any other reads when you reread? Anything that was like hmm to you?

Anemoia/Abyss

I did

You said you didnt know them tho?

Guillo

It could go either way, when you are playing against a scum player who is literally fearless about admitting to your face what he does as scum you are in trouble because honesty is townread more often than not, the only way to catch them is on the micro level, hence why im mixed about Ngekop and hence why I’m psychoanalyzing him 24/7

Okay icic so you are doing some advanced gameplay rn

What do you mean by mirco level ( sorry this is def off topic but like i never heard of that )

Bro

Ngekop

You said you didnt know them tho?

I asked

Guillo

It could go either way, when you are playing against a scum player who is literally fearless about admitting to your face what he does as scum you are in trouble because honesty is townread more often than not, the only way to catch them is on the micro level, hence why im mixed about Ngekop and hence why I’m psychoanalyzing him 24/7

If you go there i doubt you’ll ever get smth concrete on me unless i die or like strongarm a mafia lynch d1

forehead slap

K so

You're making this confusing lol

Ngekop

You would be confident on you being town and on being aware i would either tmi it as maf or figure it out just like that

This is what i said about it

10:33 p.m.

This and the next message

Anemoia/Abyss

When your parents are Arguing it's kinda hard to focus on anything :/ Anyways yeah imma just going to respond as I go down

Look im sorry that you have to@live through that but for the sake of game transparency, i’d like to ask you to not bring this in game cause nobody wants to vote the poor soul who is having domestic issues at home and what if you are scum? It is not fair to bring that here. Again im deeply sorry you are living this at home but yah.

Tbf

10:34 p.m.

He did say not to not vote him just bc of that

10:35 p.m.

But he used that to explain him going which was valid

Ngekop

Instead of actually thinking of what you say could get tr’d or not

When did I hint at this? I've barely said anything at this point anyways. I am confident I'm town, why else would I say, "I'm not." When you say I'm Mafia? Hmmmm? Also what does the last part of the first msg mean? (I'm on edge today due to personal stuff, so that's why the message might sound aggressive, but tbh Idc atm)

Guillo

Look im sorry that you have to@live through that but for the sake of game transparency, i’d like to ask you to not bring this in game cause nobody wants to vote the poor soul who is having domestic issues at home and what if you are scum? It is not fair to bring that here. Again im deeply sorry you are living this at home but yah.

I'm not looking for pity, I was giving a reason why I was "frozen"

Nah tbh i like this from you

Anemoia/Abyss

Not biased, but in my opinion these are towny thoughts

What you mean not biased?

Not what you’re going through ifc

10:37 p.m.

Ofc

10:37 p.m.

Just lkke

10:37 p.m.

Like

Guillo

Look im sorry that you have to@live through that but for the sake of game transparency, i’d like to ask you to not bring this in game cause nobody wants to vote the poor soul who is having domestic issues at home and what if you are scum? It is not fair to bring that here. Again im deeply sorry you are living this at home but yah.

Sorry if it seemed that way though, I would ask that you ignore it for fair play

Guillo

What you mean not biased?

That it was kinda in my defense a bit(or at least that's how I see it)

Having you not making yourself be nice to people

10:38 p.m.

Just to be nice

Heh?

You usually are

10:38 p.m.

Really nice

10:39 p.m.

Having you with no filter in that sense

10:39 p.m.

Will be interesting

I get that a lot-

And might make it easier to get a read on you

Cool

Ok anyways

10:39 p.m.

I meant as in

Then you'd realize that I'm tiwn

Anemoia/Abyss

Really? Yikes, I wouldn't believe it

You replied with this

Anemoia/Abyss

Not biased, but in my opinion these are towny thoughts

Yah i agree Sunny is townie and he depicts newbie yet very genuine towny thoughts imo

To me saying if you said x thing i wouldve believed you were town

Anemoia/Abyss

Then you'd realize that I'm tiwn

Not yet tho that’s the problem

Anemoia is town in my opinion

He hasnt done anything that makes him town honestly

10:41 p.m.

Not yet

Ngekop

You replied with this

And I stand by it

I have him as null still so...

Then read them holistically

WHAT DOES HOLISTICALLY MEAN

Means in good faith

Anemoia/Abyss

And I stand by it

And i responded to that

How do you read in good faith-

10:42 p.m.

Oh wait-

Saying i think as maf you are more likely to be more aware

Like- in lens that they're town?

Of how does what you say make you look

Ngekop

Saying i think as maf you are more likely to be more aware

Ok

Anemoia/Abyss

Like- in lens that they're town?

I honestly dont know what he meant

Ngekop

Of how does what you say make you look

Resay that please

Anemoia/Abyss

Like- in lens that they're town?

No more like.. in unbiased lens, forgetting tunnels, preconceptions and biases

As scum you are more aware of how does what you say make you look (towny/scummy)

Guillo

No more like.. in unbiased lens, forgetting tunnels, preconceptions and biases

Ohhhh

Guillo

No more like.. in unbiased lens, forgetting tunnels, preconceptions and biases

Not yet

10:44 p.m.

I get it now tho

Ngekop

As scum you are more aware of how does what you say make you look (towny/scummy)

Oh, tbh I don't care right now

10:44 p.m.

At this point I'm just speaking my mind with niceness

Anemoia towntold in my opinion just by posting and doing this 1c1 with you Nge

Anemoia/Abyss

I probably will care if your reasons are bad

Like the reason why Ane isn't a town lean to me and will stay in null until further notice, is because of this, which is a mirco read, ik, but from what I realized is town is upset when they are called scum, scum is upset at the reasons they are called scum.

1v1

Yeah nvm this wont make it easier to read you

Anemoia/Abyss

At this point I'm just speaking my mind with niceness

Speak it without filter

10:45 p.m.

Just say what you think just like it is

Guillo

Anemoia towntold in my opinion just by posting and doing this 1c1 with you Nge

It’s not a 1v1 tho

Ngekop

It’s not a 1v1 tho

It is, it is just you vs him

10:45 p.m.

Right now

charlie

Like the reason why Ane isn't a town lean to me and will stay in null until further notice, is because of this, which is a mirco read, ik, but from what I realized is town is upset when they are called scum, scum is upset at the reasons they are called scum.

Oh this is true in many cases

10:45 p.m.

Idt it applies to abyss tho

10:46 p.m.

It’s mostly on vets sr’d by vets

Guillo

It is, it is just you vs him

It’s 1 on 1 conversation

10:46 p.m.

And he is not even getting deep into it

Ngekop

Speak it without filter

If I did, I would be uhhh... A bit too aggressive for my liking

charlie

Like the reason why Ane isn't a town lean to me and will stay in null until further notice, is because of this, which is a mirco read, ik, but from what I realized is town is upset when they are called scum, scum is upset at the reasons they are called scum.

Because as scum you can't be upset when you are called scum... bc u r literally scum? But you can be upset at the reasons why they scum read you. But town is upset when they are called scum bc they are town and they are like wtf to it, and aren't upset at the reasons bc they know they are town and it comes from a townie perspective.

Ngekop

Idt it applies to abyss tho

Oh

Ngekop

It’s not a 1v1 tho

It is, the chat is literally mostly just the two of us with sub ins

Hmm

10:48 p.m.

Ane can you tell me one townie thing you have done so far?

charlie

Like the reason why Ane isn't a town lean to me and will stay in null until further notice, is because of this, which is a mirco read, ik, but from what I realized is town is upset when they are called scum, scum is upset at the reasons they are called scum.

Here's MY process of thought, I don't even care if I'm called scum to be completely fully honest, but if someone is calling me scum and has a bad reason, like, "oh it's just gut" then it'd be understandable why I'd care a little. But y'know what? Even then I wouldn't care too much because it's so early in the day to really matter to ME

Idk it seems to be mattering a lot to you right now

charlie

Ane can you tell me one townie thing you have done so far?

No

10:50 p.m.

No filter, no I cannot

charlie

Idk it seems to be mattering a lot to you right now

Nge said no filter, so here I am :>

10:51 p.m.

I'm listening to upbeat music so I'm getting pretty hyped about this rn lol

Anemoia/Abyss

Nge said no filter, so here I am :>

Do you town read Nge?

charlie

Do you town read Nge?

Null

Ngekop

If you go there i doubt you’ll ever get smth concrete on me unless i die or like strongarm a mafia lynch d1

This sounds like a challenge, are you claiming to be unreadable this way? Because I guarantee you, nobody is

10:52 p.m.

Micro tells are those that you do unconsciously

Anemoia/Abyss

Null

So why are you following his suggestion to you?

Callahan is kinda towny

I always town nods

Has anyone not posted

charlie

So why are you following his suggestion to you?

Because i wanna see what's it's like, I never chat on discord, nevertheless Mafia without filter

lilypetal

Has anyone not posted

A lot..

Seems fun though

Also how long is this day?

lilypetal

Has anyone not posted

What you mean?

Like has anyone not posted yet

lilypetal

Also how long is this day?

48 hours

Anemoia/Abyss

Because i wanna see what's it's like, I never chat on discord, nevertheless Mafia without filter

Well, okay, icic nods

Kk ty guillo

And I sense that you SR me Calla? Makes sense tbh

I have you as null, I'm pushing you so I can get your thought progress

lilypetal

Like has anyone not posted yet

Dont you see the posts? Or you meant like anyone else?

There are some questionable things piled onto me, but I can trust you to figure out soon that I am without a doubt town!

10:53 p.m.

(darn autoemoji)

Which makes me develop a better read on you

Guillo

Dont you see the posts? Or you meant like anyone else?

As in you can't like see post counts here

Oh

So idk who has posted and who hasn't other than like who I've seen

charlie

I have you as null, I'm pushing you so I can get your thought progress

Hm, you're doing a good job

Search people

It feels like the same ppl

10:54 p.m.

Alright

Anemoia/Abyss

There are some questionable things piled onto me, but I can trust you to figure out soon that I am without a doubt town!

Yeah, that's why I keep talking to you, I'm trying to figure out your alignment, do you have any other thoughts when you reread?

charlie

Which makes me develop a better read on you

Cool, a tr?

@Alive @Ngekop @Alive @SUNNY!! @Alive @genesischaos @Alive @charlie @Alive @Ziel :D @Alive @lilypetal @Alive @Anemoia/Abyss @Alive @Guillo @Alive @EasyOnTheHills

Anemoia/Abyss

Cool, a tr?

No, ur null still

Oops

^^ ty

You uh-

10:55 p.m.

Oopsies

10:55 p.m.

Did an oopsies

Sorry for mass ping

I think callahan sunny and guillo are towny

10:55 p.m.

So like

10:55 p.m.

I think I've already won the game

charlie

No, ur null still

Ouchies

Anemoia too

Anemoia/Abyss

If I did, I would be uhhh... A bit too aggressive for my liking

It’s fine i won’t be offended

Townie

Ngekop

It’s fine i won’t be offended

Ok I won't hold back everything I feel!

10:56 p.m.

Right now? Pumped up

Anemoia/Abyss

Ouchies

well, I want to see your thoughts, you keep defending yourself, and I want you to go on the offensive right now, what do you think scum is doing right now?

Ready to tackle on these mafs

Anemoia/Abyss

I'm listening to upbeat music so I'm getting pretty hyped about this rn lol

W

charlie

well, I want to see your thoughts, you keep defending yourself, and I want you to go on the offensive right now, what do you think scum is doing right now?

Well if I was scum so I'd want to redirect attention to someone else, right? Sooooooooo

Guillo

This sounds like a challenge, are you claiming to be unreadable this way? Because I guarantee you, nobody is

Not really, i’m saying idt that’s the way to read me

Try to push someone early so that a mislynch happens

At least not an optimal one

But there isn'tmuch of that happening looks at Nge

Anemoia/Abyss

Well if I was scum so I'd want to redirect attention to someone else, right? Sooooooooo

Yes?

Anemoia/Abyss

Well if I was scum so I'd want to redirect attention to someone else, right? Sooooooooo

Okay icic, now I want to ask you, what do you think scum is thinking about your slot? Do you think scum is going to push your slot, or do you think scum will keep you in?

Gosh I feel like Celestia-

Anemoia/Abyss

Yes?

it's just the same thing i brought up with nge i find the whole "if i was mafia i would do this not this" so scummy i hate it

charlie

Okay icic, now I want to ask you, what do you think scum is thinking about your slot? Do you think scum is going to push your slot, or do you think scum will keep you in?

I'd think that I'm an easy target for scum, I'm newer, pressure is getting pushed on me, basically if I was scum, I'd be a great target to push

Ngekop

Not really, i’m saying idt that’s the way to read me

We’ll see

Anemoia/Abyss

I'd think that I'm an easy target for scum, I'm newer, pressure is getting pushed on me, basically if I was scum, I'd be a great target to push

Honestly if I was scum, I would keep you in because I know you would have no influence JJKGetoShrug1

SUNNY!!

it's just the same thing i brought up with nge i find the whole "if i was mafia i would do this not this" so scummy i hate it

Ouch, well I don't know everyone's thought process- how am I supposed to know how everyone acts when their Mafia?

charlie

Honestly if I was scum, I would keep you in because I know you would have no influence JJKGetoShrug1

Thank you?

11:00 p.m.

I'm just glad that I'm being active

No, its means scum is not going to push you if I'm thinking correctly about this

Hmmmmm

11:01 p.m.

But I'd probably be a good mislynch, yes?

SUNNY!!

it's just the same thing i brought up with nge i find the whole "if i was mafia i would do this not this" so scummy i hate it

Honestly, i hate it too but ive seen town do it

I'm thinking hold up

I do it myself as town so yah

I'll try not to do the "If I was maf" thing then, yikes

As scum you would keep Ane in right if hes town? Because hes new right?

I have a crazy thiught

11:02 p.m.

Thought

What is your thought

Everyone is townie

11:02 p.m.

That has posted

Guillo

@Alive @Ngekop @Alive @SUNNY!! @Alive @genesischaos @Alive @charlie @Alive @Ziel :D @Alive @lilypetal @Alive @Anemoia/Abyss @Alive @Guillo @Alive @EasyOnTheHills

Why

11:03 p.m.

Why did you do that

Ngekop

Why did you do that

Because lily needed it

Guillo

Sorry for mass ping

Oh ok it wasnt intentionally

11:03 p.m.

Nvm me then

Im outside thinking rn this is insane

11:03 p.m.

I'm on a whole new level rn of gameplay

Good

im ao tired Why

Ngekop

Why did you do that

No, i was being sarcastic, i coukd gave edited it but i didnt want to

11:04 p.m.

Could have

Anemoia/Abyss

But there isn'tmuch of that happening looks at Nge

Im not even pushing a lynch on you

charlie

As scum you would keep Ane in right if hes town? Because hes new right?

Yeah, actually my thinking wasn't too good tbh-

Ngekop

Im not even pushing a lynch on you

Shhh shhhhh

SUNNY!!

it's just the same thing i brought up with nge i find the whole "if i was mafia i would do this not this" so scummy i hate it

Lol

11:05 p.m.

Bro what are you even on

As mafia you would pocket Ane right if he was town, my level of thinking is out of this world idek

But you definitely are putting pressure on me

Anemoia/Abyss

I'd think that I'm an easy target for scum, I'm newer, pressure is getting pushed on me, basically if I was scum, I'd be a great target to push

You def arent

11:05 p.m.

Tell me one time you got mislynched as town

11:05 p.m.

(Only alignment you can get ml’d as lel)

Ngekop

Bro what are you even on

that's private information sorry

Lol

I need to establish smth that i misunderstood

11:06 p.m.

From sunny

gwat is it

Ngekop

Tell me one time you got mislynched as town

Uhhhhhhh

11:06 p.m.

Never-

11:07 p.m.

Ok my line of thinking may be incorrecttttt

charlie

No, its means scum is not going to push you if I'm thinking correctly about this

Uh not bc of that tho

11:07 p.m.

You want ml’s

11:07 p.m.

You kill the towns with influence

He doesn't have influence tho

Anemoia/Abyss

I'll try not to do the "If I was maf" thing then, yikes

Nah if you feel it then say it

I feel like im thinking at a higher level rn

11:08 p.m.

this is crazy

Guillo

That has posted

Indeed

11:08 p.m.

Which i kinda hate

What if the entire team is in Ziel, EOTH and Genesis and whoever they are, they just frozen

Like if the people who havent talked

11:08 p.m.

Are not mafias

11:08 p.m.

Then tough spot

For them

charlie

As mafia you would pocket Ane right if he was town, my level of thinking is out of this world idek

Oh 100%

Anemoia/Abyss

But you definitely are putting pressure on me

Yes

11:09 p.m.

And i will keep it until i am semiconvinced you are town

charlie

He doesn't have influence tho

Yeah but

11:10 p.m.

You take easy ml’s

11:10 p.m.

You dont even have to push those many times

Guillo

What if the entire team is in Ziel, EOTH and Genesis and whoever they are, they just frozen

Frozen? Lol

11:10 p.m.

Nah

charlie

As mafia you would pocket Ane right if he was town, my level of thinking is out of this world idek

Hmmmmm

11:10 p.m.

Possibly

Genesis 90% sure is sleeping

Ngekop

Frozen? Lol

Have they posted?

Maybe ziel too but not sure

Guillo

Have they posted?

No

Oh ok

But like

11:11 p.m.

Not bc of them not knowing what to say

11:11 p.m.

Eoth agreed

11:11 p.m.

Bruh

11:11 p.m.

He is the only person i have never played with in here

11:11 p.m.

Having to read him now is smth i dont enjoy

Ngekop

Eoth agreed

What’s the story?

I do think if eoth is scum then his partner hasnt posted

Guillo

What’s the story?

Wdym

Why you agree he could be frozen

I meant as in i agree with the point on eoth

11:12 p.m.

Yeah

11:12 p.m.

Bc

11:12 p.m.

He has even posted

11:12 p.m.

At two different times

EOTH....

Both of them just gifs p much tho

11:13 p.m.

@Anemoia/Abyss what do you think of the pressure on you especially mine

11:13 p.m.

And calla’s

I can't remember any meta on him actually which is bad

11:13 p.m.

Oh they have!

charlie

I can't remember any meta on him actually which is bad

Arent you like

11:13 p.m.

The only one

11:13 p.m.

Who knows him

11:13 p.m.

YES LOL

Sunny is towny indeed

Is EOTH usually a slank?

Imo top town lean i have rn

Guillo

Is EOTH usually a slank?

No not really, but I'm unsure if its because its a new format or he just doesn't wanna play lol

I think guillo is most likely either town or teamed with another person that has posted, with it likely being calla or lily

charlie

No not really, but I'm unsure if its because its a new format or he just doesn't wanna play lol

He does not wanna play? Why he’d sign up for a tournament if he does not?

11:14 p.m.

Does not make sense

Ngekop

@Anemoia/Abyss what do you think of the pressure on you especially mine

It's with good cause, but I don't think anyone gets any benefit from lynching me except for a town flip and getting a mislynch, but since I'm town, you'll be sus

11:15 p.m.

Probably not maf, but I can't be sure

Guillo

He does not wanna play? Why he’d sign up for a tournament if he does not?

I may or may not made him sign up bc i haven't played with him in months SMILE

Guillo

He does not wanna play? Why he’d sign up for a tournament if he does not?

He talked more in mason chat before the rerolling Why

I literally actually realized I have no meta on him which is insane SMILE

That's my thought

Anemoia/Abyss

It's with good cause, but I don't think anyone gets any benefit from lynching me except for a town flip and getting a mislynch, but since I'm town, you'll be sus

Ok how about you tell me what you think is the case instead of what you think will happen next days in hypothetical scenarios

Ngekop

He talked more in mason chat before the rerolling Why

Hmmm!

It was disappointing seriously no cap bc i didnt have to read him like omfg

I had even a plan by then

charlie

Click to see attachment 🖼️

@king kong bro chill

We are not lynching the most talkers today, today we lynch the one that contributes less

11:17 p.m.

Unless they scum slip

Uh

11:17 p.m.

It depends

But isn't that what scum does?

11:17 p.m.

They lynch the easy ones

@Anemoia/Abyss gth

charlie

They lynch the easy ones

No, they leave them for later

Okay I think Ane is town which leads me to believe Nge is town

Is the pressure/push from me on you

11:18 p.m.

In good faith?

11:18 p.m.

Y/n

Guillo

No, they leave them for later

Both work

11:18 p.m.

But yes

Guillo

No, they leave them for later

Yeah yeah bc they dont have influence

Ngekop

Ok how about you tell me what you think is the case instead of what you think will happen next days in hypothetical scenarios

Bro idk, my thinking can only be so smart UHHHH Like... I think it's you two being unsure about me, so the pressure is to see if I'm scum or not. I don't think it's Mafia led tho

11:18 p.m.

OMG I just got Deja Vu

Anemoia/Abyss

Bro idk, my thinking can only be so smart UHHHH Like... I think it's you two being unsure about me, so the pressure is to see if I'm scum or not. I don't think it's Mafia led tho

You are smarter than you think

11:19 p.m.

Pls

11:19 p.m.

Ok

11:19 p.m.

Ic

So what i propose is to lynch the less contributer today unless all contribute then it no longer applies as a viable way of lynching

charlie

But isn't that what scum does?

I'd think

Ngekop

@Anemoia/Abyss gth

HEH?

Anemoia/Abyss

HEH?

Like

11:20 p.m.

You have to answer rn

11:20 p.m.

Dont analyze it

11:20 p.m.

Just what you think in this segond

11:20 p.m.

Second

11:20 p.m.

What comes to your head

11:20 p.m.

Hi sunny

11:20 p.m.

(Dont stop typing)

11:20 p.m.

(Istg if you stop and say hi)

Hi

OMFG

11:20 p.m.

FKFKOWBE

Sunny do you still scum read Nge?

BRO STOP THAT

Hi

This chat is towny af

11:21 p.m.

I hate this

Oh

Do I feel like Im thinking at a higher level right now

11:21 p.m.

dude

About what?

Idk

Woah I just lagged-

Nge is too performative for my taste

I have four town leans, like I'm going crazy rn, the town core is forming in my head

Anemoia/Abyss

About what?

About smth you kinda already answered

11:21 p.m.

Lol

Guillo

Nge is too performative for my taste

The sunny thing is NAI tho

Guillo

Nge is too performative for my taste

Oh like a actor

It’s just me telling him to change some habit of his

His reactions are overblown

Guillo

His reactions are overblown

I assume you mean this to the sunny thing

11:22 p.m.

Which i just

11:22 p.m.

Reiterate what i just said

Wait, i read a scum hunting guide before this game... SMILE

Scum like to make a big deal about small things

charlie

Sunny do you still scum read Nge?

I never really scum read him, he's still neutral for me

it was just those things i pointed out earlier that stood out out to me, but he's been acting townie too so aopkeb

Ngekop

About smth you kinda already answered

Four words, likely pressure town led

The kid constantly does that

what's it is the sunny thing

Ngekop

I assume you mean this to the sunny thing

As town you try hard way less

SUNNY!!

I never really scum read him, he's still neutral for me

it was just those things i pointed out earlier that stood out out to me, but he's been acting townie too so aopkeb

Okay Sunny has any of your reads on people progressed or...

I have to reread you

SUNNY!!

I never really scum read him, he's still neutral for me

it was just those things i pointed out earlier that stood out out to me, but he's been acting townie too so aopkeb

I always act towny

11:23 p.m.

I have only been mislynched once and i only have one L as mafia in this server

11:23 p.m.

I take pride on that

11:23 p.m.

Ngl

11:23 p.m.

That said im way more proud

Nge ur making me wary of you again

When i win as town

11:23 p.m.

Than as maf

11:24 p.m.

Like unironically when im maf idrc that much if i lose

11:24 p.m.

As town i hate losing

11:24 p.m.

Kiri gets me

charlie

Nge ur making me wary of you again

Good

Try to get my pov pls

The music I'm listening to is making Mafia feel like a cool battle :0

Getting tr’d early and easily

I'm listening to rap fr

Makes it kinda boring

charlie

I'm listening to rap fr

Im watching it

11:25 p.m.

Omfg

Funny the vote asks for a reason, i submit the reason but where does it go to

Twins

LOL

11:25 p.m.

yes

Guillo

Funny the vote asks for a reason, i submit the reason but where does it go to

If you click on the command

11:25 p.m.

It shows the reason

augsh

As in when you click to replies

11:25 p.m.

To see the og message

Oooh nice ok

Your reason is “performative”

11:26 p.m.

Which i still dont get bc

11:26 p.m.

The one performative thing

11:26 p.m.

Is to smth not even game related

Ngekop

Makes it kinda boring

Anyways @charlie

11:26 p.m.

And it makes me die early

11:26 p.m.

Which i dislike

11:26 p.m.

While i dont get ml’d

11:26 p.m.

And if i do

11:26 p.m.

Im not the problem

11:26 p.m.

It’s town being stupid

11:26 p.m.

:)

charlie

Okay Sunny has any of your reads on people progressed or...

guillo seems more scummy to me rn maybe i shouldn't look too much into it but pushing for the lynch to be one of the inacs instead of a talker feels off aside from like... everything he's done and said

Ngl i do care about getting ml’d here

11:27 p.m.

Bc ml’s are unlikely to advance

Ngekop

It’s town being stupid

Are you calling me stupid for voting you?

Guillo

Are you calling me stupid for voting you?

If you stay there and i get lynched

11:27 p.m.

You’d be part of stupid yes

11:27 p.m.

(Or mafia)

SUNNY!!

guillo seems more scummy to me rn maybe i shouldn't look too much into it but pushing for the lynch to be one of the inacs instead of a talker feels off aside from like... everything he's done and said

leaning more towards abyss being town too a little bit

SUNNY!!

leaning more towards abyss being town too a little bit

11:28 p.m.

What made you change abyss to town

If sunny is scum he is 100% getting coached

11:28 p.m.

Btw

Oh yeah 100%

11:28 p.m.

and im eating it up rn

By a more experienced player

Sunny is improving a lot, and I'm unsure bc the setup is comfortable for him, or he just is like fuck this shit

11:29 p.m.

Because I know he is ehhh when expressing how he truly feels

charlie

Sunny is improving a lot, and I'm unsure bc the setup is comfortable for him, or he just is like fuck this shit

Uh

11:29 p.m.

I think i can say this bc he is dead

11:29 p.m.

But like

11:29 p.m.

He just got ml’d as mason

11:29 p.m.

So how can this setup be comfortable for him

11:29 p.m.

okay so u know

11:29 p.m.

big games

11:29 p.m.

hes super quiet

11:29 p.m.

and doesn't really talk a lot

11:29 p.m.

this is a smaller game which I think he might feel more comfortable in

He almost never talks

charlie

this is a smaller game which I think he might feel more comfortable in

I get this tho

TRUE THO

Fair

Sorry, relatable stuff triggered in me

If sunny is mafia, who would be coaching him

Guillo probs

Like what player fits this kind of playstyle

ziel ong

Maaaaaaaybe lily

SUNNY!!

ziel ong

This kid is hilarious

11:31 p.m.

I love him

EOTH

actuually

charlie

If sunny is mafia, who would be coaching him

Someone who'd probably want to distance?

charlie

EOTH

actuually

But he’d be

11:31 p.m.

Posting more

Nah, I don't think u need to post to coach

I mean ig i could be? I coached twinny after all

charlie

Nah, I don't think u need to post to coach

Ik

11:32 p.m.

But if you are putting effort

11:32 p.m.

On coaching your partner

11:32 p.m.

To not post yourself as well would be

Sunny if you had to choose someone to coach u who would u pick

Not really like coherent

charlie

Sunny if you had to choose someone to coach u who would u pick

Me pls

11:32 p.m.

Pick me

I'd do Nge tbh

Calla would be good too probs tbh

BRUH NAH ME thats my mentee nods

Anemoia/Abyss

I'd do Nge tbh

WE KILLED IT

My first Mafia game with him he was GREAT

Me and sunny secrelty a scum team fr

In your first game

11:32 p.m.

Yes

11:32 p.m.

You were too

charlie

BRUH NAH ME thats my mentee nods

Yeah fair

and he was a good coach in Hydra

charlie

Me and sunny secrelty a scum team fr

REAL

SUNNY!!

REAL

I'll text u in the scum chat hold up

Ngekop

Guillo probs

Lol, i dont coach people.

charlie

I'll text u in the scum chat hold up

we gotta decide on the kill tn i forgot

As scum the first thing i say is, if you mess up I will buss you

Guillo

Lol, i dont coach people.

You helped me coach twinny

11:34 p.m.

Wdym

Guillo

As scum the first thing i say is, if you mess up I will buss you

Yes

11:34 p.m.

But you do coach

Ngekop

You helped me coach twinny

Huh?

If your partner asks for help/advice

SUNNY!!

we gotta decide on the kill tn i forgot

shit yeah, I was thinking uhh lets just kill uh eoth

11:34 p.m.

He gotta go

Especially if new

I cant deal with his gifs anymore

You bussed twinny but helped me coach him

Ngekop

If your partner asks for help/advice

Answering questions is not coaching

charlie

I cant deal with his gifs anymore

yeah my gifs are better

He said what he could do

Twinny claimed mafia when he was on my mafia team

And you and i told him

11:35 p.m.

What to do

11:35 p.m.

Anyways

SUNNY!!

yeah my gifs are better

fr, also how r u feeling right now tho in the game

I dont remember doing that

Not important ig

11:35 p.m.

But yes he

11:35 p.m.

100% is town or getting coached

Ok

~~Or both~~

Well if you knew you were town, who else has the experience to coach besides you Nge?

I know i am

11:36 p.m.

Calla and lily fs

11:37 p.m.

And calla would 100% do that

11:37 p.m.

Imma say calla+sunny aint it tho

Idk Im really good at interacting with my scum partner

Idk how does lily behave with her partners so

‍♂️

11:37 p.m.

But i know she is good and experienced

Would Calla openly defend Sunny the way they have here as a scum partner?

charlie

Idk Im really good at interacting with my scum partner

Yeah still you two arent both scum

Guillo

Would Calla openly defend Sunny the way they have here as a scum partner?

Probs yes no cap

Guillo

Would Calla openly defend Sunny the way they have here as a scum partner?

I bus and defend as scum so

Overall tho idt they are

Ok

charlie

fr, also how r u feeling right now tho in the game

think we're doing well,, hoping i want ziel to say something please

11:38 p.m.

and the other guy

SUNNY!!

think we're doing well,, hoping i want ziel to say something please

we?

Genesis

11:38 p.m.

I want genesis to talk too

11:38 p.m.

Do u think im town imgaslightingyou

11:39 p.m.

Yeah EOTH + ziel + other guy need to say something

@genesischaos whenever you come in talk pls

maybe

charlie

Yeah EOTH + ziel + other guy need to say something

Other guy has a name

yeah their name is other guy

Ngekop

Other guy has a name

Im sorry, but u seem to know him whats his meta

11:40 p.m.

lets meta share everybody

11:40 p.m.

my meta on eoth...none.

11:40 p.m.

When i sent him the quax + todi + me video and asked him who scum was

11:40 p.m.

he said we were all town

11:40 p.m.

we were actually all mafia

11:40 p.m.

As you can tell his reads still r crazy

11:41 p.m.

Okay guy don't meta share ig?

11:44 p.m.

Okay let me actually give real meta

Town Lily Sonny Callahan Anemoia Mafia Ngekop

11:45 p.m.

That's where im at

11:46 p.m.

I need to head out. Hopefully the others post as well

11:46 p.m.

And then i can analyze

11:46 p.m.

Good night

charlie

Im sorry, but u seem to know him whats his meta

Lol i have

11:47 p.m.

ONE game with him

charlie

he said we were all town

Lmfaooo

Ngekop

ONE game with him

And that one game he barely talked

11:48 p.m.

And was clearly there mostly bc his friend king kong was

11:49 p.m.

Kong said he was really smart tho

11:49 p.m.

And im p sure he signed up just bc kong did

11:49 p.m.

So i hope them being in different games doesnt make him be way less motivated

11:49 p.m.

Although i expect that to be the case

11:50 p.m.

@Ziel :D exist pls

11:51 p.m.

I do remember when i was town with guillo i didnt agree with a single thing he said btw

11:51 p.m.

I also remember him being way more annoying than rn tho

11:52 p.m.

I have 0 scum meta from lily

11:53 p.m.

He misread me both games i played with her tho (well kinda; in one she tr’d me then tunneled me then tr’d me again, i was town…so maybe that doesnt count)

11:53 p.m.

Still weird she got an early gut tr on me

11:53 p.m.

@Anemoia/Abyss hi we need you to contribute a bit more

11:53 p.m.

(Sorry)

More? ALRIGHT!

11:54 p.m.

Got this

Yes

11:54 p.m.

W

Totally

11:54 p.m.

:>

Ok so

11:54 p.m.

Any thoughts on guillo/lily?

No thought behind these eyes

You implied me/calla/sunny probs town

Mhm

Anemoia/Abyss

No thought behind these eyes

Try to give some tho

More Sunny than you two

11:55 p.m.

K

Anemoia/Abyss

More Sunny than you two

That’s fair

Town Lean+: Sunny Town Lean: Nge, Calla Null: Everyone else

11:56 p.m.

Readslists

Ngekop has: calla/sunny/abyss townlean with at most 1 scum there. Anemoia has: Sunny Town, Calla, Nge Townlean Guillo has: Town Lily, Sonny, Callahan, Anemoia. MafiaNgekop

If not completely

can I edit posts here?

Can i laugh at you postgame if you are town?

1:24 a.m.

And no you cant

Ngekop

Can i laugh at you postgame if you are town?

Genuine question, not intending for you to change reads or anything

Ngekop

Can i laugh at you postgame if you are town?

yah you can, i will not care regardless, nice appeal to ego right there

Yeah ok the first part was all i cared about

sure

To the second part i know

1:26 a.m.

And in fact that is more scummy than towny so like idk why do you think i’d say it like that

1:26 a.m.

If i didnt mean it

do i look like i know what is in your mind?

The morning will probably let me clear my head better, but I'll stay on here

you said "can I laugh at you post game" for what I assume is that from yout PoV as town is that I'm I'm wrong about you. I said sure, i will not care regardless, and find it scummy that you are trying to emotionally blackmail me with a promise of mocking me like I am some sort of high schooler

Guillo

do i look like i know what is in your mind?

No but you should know what is not in it like this

1:29 a.m.

I know

1:29 a.m.

And im saying

1:29 a.m.

Me saying that

1:29 a.m.

Is way more likely

1:29 a.m.

To be perceived as scummy from you

1:29 a.m.

So why would i say it as scum?

1:29 a.m.

When i know this

Who knows? I don't know, sometimes scums cant help it

Im instead just wanting to laugh at you at some point without being thaaaaat mean

Guillo

Who knows? I don't know, sometimes scums cant help it

You think that low of me huh

I didn't until you said that

You have used meta to approach me this game so tell me when have i intentionally scumtold as maf

1:30 a.m.

Well not intentionally

1:31 a.m.

More like

1:31 a.m.

Uh

For you to say that you are gonna laugh at me, whether it is genuine or fake, just the premise of that statement is.... insulting

Deliberstely

1:31 a.m.

Deliberately*

Guillo

For you to say that you are gonna laugh at me, whether it is genuine or fake, just the premise of that statement is.... insulting

Not really bc i want to make sure you wont take it personal

1:31 a.m.

Bc it isnt

Ok cool

Everyone can be wrong

so why say you are gonna laugh at me at all

I want to be able to laugh about people being wrong on me just bc even if bad it makes me feel a bit less uh unsatisfied

Guillo

so why say you are gonna laugh at me at all

It was asking if i could without you getting upset

1:33 a.m.

If you said no then i wouldnt do it bc it’d be extra mean on my side

Oh you can but... it is not like it is gonna make me upset, more like... disappointing because the idea is childish

1:34 a.m.

If this whole thing is genuine

Guillo

you said "can I laugh at you post game" for what I assume is that from yout PoV as town is that I'm I'm wrong about you. I said sure, i will not care regardless, and find it scummy that you are trying to emotionally blackmail me with a promise of mocking me like I am some sort of high schooler

Oh hes guilt trip me before in a mafia game

1:34 a.m.

He was town but like

1:34 a.m.

Yeah

I dont appreciate it tbh, I come here playing under the assumption that we are gonna be good sports regardless of the outcome.

1:36 a.m.

I don't know what you saught to get with that but I certainly don't townread it, if anything, it is making me more tunneled on you

1:36 a.m.

Good night

Guillo

Oh you can but... it is not like it is gonna make me upset, more like... disappointing because the idea is childish

Yeah ik it is childish

1:37 a.m.

Which is why i said it’s bad

1:37 a.m.

However tho

1:37 a.m.

If you dont care

1:37 a.m.

And even if for wrong reasons makes me feel slightly better

1:37 a.m.

Then why not

charlie

Oh hes guilt trip me before in a mafia game

Tbf it came under a rule misunderstanding and i stand by what i said there if the rule wasnt like that

Guillo

I dont appreciate it tbh, I come here playing under the assumption that we are gonna be good sports regardless of the outcome.

Yeah so i ask

If you mind it then i just

1:38 a.m.

Dont do it

1:38 a.m.

It’s like asking you to apologize post game but the opposite way

1:39 a.m.

Bc idgaf about apologies in mafia games tbh bc you have nothing to apologize for unless you intentionally gamethrow or intentionally dismiss smth that couldve easily made our alignment win which wont be the case here with you so who cares

Guillo

I don't know what you saught to get with that but I certainly don't townread it, if anything, it is making me more tunneled on you

Im saying if you use logic

1:40 a.m.

It makes no sense for me to say it impulsively as scum to you

1:40 a.m.

Bc it indeed comes out as more scummy than towny

1:40 a.m.

And you, having used meta on me constantly today, cant tell me a time where i deliberately scumtold

1:40 a.m.

As scum

Ngekop

On calla/sunny/abyss

I don't really understand this? Like how did u even reach this conclusion?

What conclusion

Like we if we all Tl's then how is one of us scum?

I said at most

1:45 a.m.

Yeah how did u get to that

??

1:45 a.m.

1. I tl all of you and i doubt i am wrong in 2 of those

Like im really confused

2. I dont team read either 2 of y’all

charlie

Like im really confused

Your confusion confuses me

1:46 a.m.

Bc i think it’s p clear

Im so fucking confused rn

Hi eoth

But one of us is scum ?

charlie

But one of us is scum ?

I

1:46 a.m.

Never

1:46 a.m.

Said

1:46 a.m.

Such

1:46 a.m.

A

1:46 a.m.

Thing

1:46 a.m.

Omfg

Ngekop

And im confident that has at most one scum

Yes u did?

AT

1:47 a.m.

fking

1:47 a.m.

MOST

Yeah idk what u r meaning by MOST

????????

like wtf is most

At most

1:47 a.m.

Meaning

1:47 a.m.

Not more than

1:47 a.m.

??????

1:47 a.m.

Like this is legit

1:47 a.m.

Hurting my brain rn

I feel so dumb rn idk why im not getting what u r saying

current reads so far: Town: Ngekop, Guillo, Anemoia Leans town: Sunny Neutral: Ziel, genisischaos Potential scum: callahan, lilypetal

Wow

EasyOnTheHills

current reads so far: Town: Ngekop, Guillo, Anemoia Leans town: Sunny Neutral: Ziel, genisischaos Potential scum: callahan, lilypetal

1:49 a.m.

(Pls elaborate on like all of them tho)

EasyOnTheHills

current reads so far: Town: Ngekop, Guillo, Anemoia Leans town: Sunny Neutral: Ziel, genisischaos Potential scum: callahan, lilypetal

girl

charlie

girl

Shhh let them cook

they aint cooking

Yes they are

they got me wrong so no they arent cooking

Never said they were cooking smth good

1:50 a.m.

Just said they were cooking

1:50 a.m.

That’s all i care about rn

1:51 a.m.

I want to read what eoth has to say

There is no way eoth actually read this game and came to that conclusion

There is no way you dont let them explain before saying stuff like that

1:53 a.m.

I do think however lily/calla never the team here

1:53 a.m.

But that’s more bc of how you echo’ed each other on abyss

1:54 a.m.

But im guessing the reads are like individual so that doesnt matter

seems like most the day so far has been ngekop vs guillo, which is strange to me if one of them is scum here (though this could just be because they are the most active so far, will have to wait for the day to develop more) Guillo's push is an extremely bold one if scum here, generally coming off as a kinda selfish and headstrong townie Ngekop gives good vibes so far, don't think he's had any poor posts so far and seems to be genuinely interested in advancing the gamestate, which isnt a position I think scum would take right now Anemoia has some more questionable posts, but this comes off to me as a more newbie townie so far, though I would like to see their content improve a bit later on Sunny also gives good vibes but im not sure how much of that so far is charisma rather than actually being townie lilypetal im leaning scum so far, she started the game pretty strong but then quickly switched up her read on callahan and then her reads are kinda very basic after that, reading anemoia as scum isnt wrong but seems strange for her to do after seeing how her read on callahan developed Callahan is scum cause she is SUS, but actually it just feels like shes forcing herself to make posts rather than it being genuine + the lily connection i stated above Ziel and genisischaos havent said anything yet so i cannot really read them, but them being gone so far also makes reads in general pretty unreliable this early on id say

Oh wow

i

EasyOnTheHills

seems like most the day so far has been ngekop vs guillo, which is strange to me if one of them is scum here (though this could just be because they are the most active so far, will have to wait for the day to develop more) Guillo's push is an extremely bold one if scum here, generally coming off as a kinda selfish and headstrong townie Ngekop gives good vibes so far, don't think he's had any poor posts so far and seems to be genuinely interested in advancing the gamestate, which isnt a position I think scum would take right now Anemoia has some more questionable posts, but this comes off to me as a more newbie townie so far, though I would like to see their content improve a bit later on Sunny also gives good vibes but im not sure how much of that so far is charisma rather than actually being townie lilypetal im leaning scum so far, she started the game pretty strong but then quickly switched up her read on callahan and then her reads are kinda very basic after that, reading anemoia as scum isnt wrong but seems strange for her to do after seeing how her read on callahan developed Callahan is scum cause she is SUS, but actually it just feels like shes forcing herself to make posts rather than it being genuine + the lily connection i stated above Ziel and genisischaos havent said anything yet so i cannot really read them, but them being gone so far also makes reads in general pretty unreliable this early on id say

You have 6 paragraphs and when replying i will address which paragraph im talking about

Why do you say vibes so much

cause its still pretty early

So my whole read is a feel...

2:21 a.m.

Okay

2:21 a.m.

a feel that your posts so far come off as forced, yes

How?

EasyOnTheHills

seems like most the day so far has been ngekop vs guillo, which is strange to me if one of them is scum here (though this could just be because they are the most active so far, will have to wait for the day to develop more) Guillo's push is an extremely bold one if scum here, generally coming off as a kinda selfish and headstrong townie Ngekop gives good vibes so far, don't think he's had any poor posts so far and seems to be genuinely interested in advancing the gamestate, which isnt a position I think scum would take right now Anemoia has some more questionable posts, but this comes off to me as a more newbie townie so far, though I would like to see their content improve a bit later on Sunny also gives good vibes but im not sure how much of that so far is charisma rather than actually being townie lilypetal im leaning scum so far, she started the game pretty strong but then quickly switched up her read on callahan and then her reads are kinda very basic after that, reading anemoia as scum isnt wrong but seems strange for her to do after seeing how her read on callahan developed Callahan is scum cause she is SUS, but actually it just feels like shes forcing herself to make posts rather than it being genuine + the lily connection i stated above Ziel and genisischaos havent said anything yet so i cannot really read them, but them being gone so far also makes reads in general pretty unreliable this early on id say

2. Tbh guillo can be bold as in that isnt out of his scum range.

2:22 a.m.

Uh

2:22 a.m.

Not much to say

2:22 a.m.

I like the insight on lily especially

2:22 a.m.

Even if i dont fully agree

2:22 a.m.

I like it as in content from eoth

charlie

How?

Im also interested in that part

2:23 a.m.

Other than the “am i playing to a higher level” stuff idt there is much that comes off as that

I am playing at a higher level

2:24 a.m.

I began to think on what scum would be doing viewing the current event

2:24 a.m.

It was insane

2:24 a.m.

But, it probs bc i took my ADHD medication today and I felt wow

Yeah but you have said that explicitly a fair amount of times

2:25 a.m.

Kinda feels overdone

Yeah, Ik you havent reached that point

2:25 a.m.

its okay

2:25 a.m.

I would be jealous too ig

2:26 a.m.

Very odd that you now have a problem with it nods

2:26 a.m.

Didn't mention anything before

charlie

Yeah, Ik you havent reached that point

Uh

charlie

Very odd that you now have a problem with it nods

Bc i dont really

2:26 a.m.

Overall you dont seem forced

2:27 a.m.

So im interested on eoth’s response to that

EasyOnTheHills

seems like most the day so far has been ngekop vs guillo, which is strange to me if one of them is scum here (though this could just be because they are the most active so far, will have to wait for the day to develop more) Guillo's push is an extremely bold one if scum here, generally coming off as a kinda selfish and headstrong townie Ngekop gives good vibes so far, don't think he's had any poor posts so far and seems to be genuinely interested in advancing the gamestate, which isnt a position I think scum would take right now Anemoia has some more questionable posts, but this comes off to me as a more newbie townie so far, though I would like to see their content improve a bit later on Sunny also gives good vibes but im not sure how much of that so far is charisma rather than actually being townie lilypetal im leaning scum so far, she started the game pretty strong but then quickly switched up her read on callahan and then her reads are kinda very basic after that, reading anemoia as scum isnt wrong but seems strange for her to do after seeing how her read on callahan developed Callahan is scum cause she is SUS, but actually it just feels like shes forcing herself to make posts rather than it being genuine + the lily connection i stated above Ziel and genisischaos havent said anything yet so i cannot really read them, but them being gone so far also makes reads in general pretty unreliable this early on id say

i don't dislike this but your way of gauging time is insane, this day has barely started and i've posted throughout the day so idk how you're saying i fell off just because i made some level 0 posts

I said that’s all i could think of

lilypetal

i don't dislike this but your way of gauging time is insane, this day has barely started and i've posted throughout the day so idk how you're saying i fell off just because i made some level 0 posts

Hm im assuming he is used to like shorter games so maybe 7h can feel like long in here

um

2:28 a.m.

EOTH has played forums before

Then nvm

2:29 a.m.

Still tho

2:29 a.m.

A fair amount of content has been provided so far

Ngekop

Hm im assuming he is used to like shorter games so maybe 7h can feel like long in here

bizarre

So it isnt that like insane to perceive it that way

You dont have to defend EOTH

Like guillo already is asking for readslists to people

2:30 a.m.

Im not defending tbh

Kind of are

Not him at least

2:30 a.m.

Im defending my point on that part of his post

2:30 a.m.

Bc it is the thing i liked the most from it

2:30 a.m.

(The paragraph on lily)

Lily was talking to EOTH not u

So?

charlie

How?

you just keep saying stuff about being good and helping town but you arent really building reads and seem to just be piggybacking off of others for the most part

And ur defending EOTH? EOTH can speak for himself

2:31 a.m.

LOL

Im replying to her comment in eoth’s paragraph on her bc k disagree

charlie

And ur defending EOTH? EOTH can speak for himself

He doesnt need a defense since he isnt even voted or anything

2:31 a.m.

Im just defending my thought

EasyOnTheHills

you just keep saying stuff about being good and helping town but you arent really building reads and seem to just be piggybacking off of others for the most part

I literally never said one thing about being good other than saying I'm town? Which I am? I have been building reads, and they have been changing? I have not piggybacked off of others? I feel like you didn't read my slot at all?

EasyOnTheHills

you just keep saying stuff about being good and helping town but you arent really building reads and seem to just be piggybacking off of others for the most part

I think her approaches on abyss and sunny are kinda like intending to build up stuff

I can defend myself

Idc

2:33 a.m.

Im joining the discussion sharing my view on the matter

2:33 a.m.

Like not bc the topic isnt about me doesnt mean i cant join the discussion

EasyOnTheHills

you just keep saying stuff about being good and helping town but you arent really building reads and seem to just be piggybacking off of others for the most part

None of this seems forced at all if you are viewing it like that, you would be saying I would be coasting rather then being forced?

2:34 a.m.

Like?

lilypetal

i don't dislike this but your way of gauging time is insane, this day has barely started and i've posted throughout the day so idk how you're saying i fell off just because i made some level 0 posts

its not timing its progression, you opening by starting a read into callahan but then went from a scum read to a town read on her pretty suddenly and then jumped on anemoia is scum without saying much after that, it just seems like strange progression

EasyOnTheHills

its not timing its progression, you opening by starting a read into callahan but then went from a scum read to a town read on her pretty suddenly and then jumped on anemoia is scum without saying much after that, it just seems like strange progression

so wouldn't you want to ping me to ask about that if it's so strange?

So if lily and I are partners why would we just randomly hop on Ane together?

2:36 a.m.

you seem more content posting statements rather than investigating in that case

2:36 a.m.

but anyhow because of the format it's hard for me to be invested long term in specific discussions or alignments

charlie

So if lily and I are partners why would we just randomly hop on Ane together?

Dont copy me grrr

i read some posts and went eh callahan kinda towny

Ngekop

Dont copy me grrr

Oh did u say that

2:37 a.m.

sorry

and then i read some posts and went oh wow anemoia feels fake

So here’s my issue

2:38 a.m.

7/9 people have posted

2:38 a.m.

I sl 0 of them

These reads that EOTH has are so half assed, I'm not trying to discredit at all but they r so rushed

2:39 a.m.

You can tell he read the beginning well, skimmed throught the middle, and read a little deeper at the end, that was it.

I can tell he read tho

2:41 a.m.

Ziel and genesis still not posting is disappointing ngl

2:41 a.m.

Not disappointing

2:41 a.m.

But lame and demotivating

charlie

You can tell he read the beginning well, skimmed throught the middle, and read a little deeper at the end, that was it.

what does that say for his alignment?

seems like most the day so far has been ngekop vs guillo, which is strange to me if one of them is scum here (though this could just be because they are the most active so far, will have to wait for the day to develop more) Guillo's push is an extremely bold one if scum here, generally coming off as a kinda selfish and headstrong townie Why is his push bold in your opinion and what push? The nge push? Ngekop gives good vibes so far, don't think he's had any poor posts so far and seems to be genuinely interested in advancing the gamestate, which isnt a position I think scum would take right now Why wouldn't scum take that position right now? Anemoia has some more questionable posts, but this comes off to me as a more newbie townie so far, though I would like to see their content improve a bit later on Okay, i wanna follow this into lilypetal's read on how u said reading anemoia as scum isn't wrong? So hes newbie townie here but now is scum in lily's read? Sunny also gives good vibes but im not sure how much of that so far is charisma rather than actually being townie This is just a gut read lilypetal im leaning scum so far, she started the game pretty strong but then quickly switched up her read on callahan and then her reads are kinda very basic after that, reading anemoia as scum isnt wrong but seems strange for her to do after seeing how her read on callahan developed Your reads are also really basic? You literally have the same reads as basically everybody else expect for me and Lily, like we all have very similar town reads right now? Callahan is scum cause she is SUS, but actually it just feels like shes forcing herself to make posts rather than it being genuine + the lily connection i stated above weak and disproven Ziel and genisischaos havent said anything yet so i cannot really read them, but them being gone so far also makes reads in general pretty unreliable this early on id say fine this is fine

lilypetal

what does that say for his alignment?

idk honestly

2:45 a.m.

just shows poor reading skills to me

2:46 a.m.

I can't tell if eoth accidently slipped with the ane scum thingy?

charlie

seems like most the day so far has been ngekop vs guillo, which is strange to me if one of them is scum here (though this could just be because they are the most active so far, will have to wait for the day to develop more) Guillo's push is an extremely bold one if scum here, generally coming off as a kinda selfish and headstrong townie Why is his push bold in your opinion and what push? The nge push? Ngekop gives good vibes so far, don't think he's had any poor posts so far and seems to be genuinely interested in advancing the gamestate, which isnt a position I think scum would take right now Why wouldn't scum take that position right now? Anemoia has some more questionable posts, but this comes off to me as a more newbie townie so far, though I would like to see their content improve a bit later on Okay, i wanna follow this into lilypetal's read on how u said reading anemoia as scum isn't wrong? So hes newbie townie here but now is scum in lily's read? Sunny also gives good vibes but im not sure how much of that so far is charisma rather than actually being townie This is just a gut read lilypetal im leaning scum so far, she started the game pretty strong but then quickly switched up her read on callahan and then her reads are kinda very basic after that, reading anemoia as scum isnt wrong but seems strange for her to do after seeing how her read on callahan developed Your reads are also really basic? You literally have the same reads as basically everybody else expect for me and Lily, like we all have very similar town reads right now? Callahan is scum cause she is SUS, but actually it just feels like shes forcing herself to make posts rather than it being genuine + the lily connection i stated above weak and disproven Ziel and genisischaos havent said anything yet so i cannot really read them, but them being gone so far also makes reads in general pretty unreliable this early on id say fine this is fine

Lol last time she did this it was about ziel in that camper game

yeah bc these reads are BAD

Im actually trying to read YOU through those

yeee

2:47 a.m.

i think im just gonna vote him or ane

2:47 a.m.

lol

Idc if the reads are good or bad

2:47 a.m.

I just care where do they come from

im content with sunny / callahan / guillo town

2:47 a.m.

i think nge has shown towny moments

2:47 a.m.

and has a pulse

2:47 a.m.

so

And idt im currently leaning maf over town perspective

im kinda vibing

Like did he slip i cant tell

bc he was like ane is noob town but in lily's read hes like ane is scum

2:48 a.m.

like

2:48 a.m.

That's not what I said at all...

girlie

2:48 a.m.

yes

2:48 a.m.

u did

2:48 a.m.

reread what u said

Im with eoth

2:48 a.m.

In this one

You are misinterpreting the read

Yeah

"her reads are kinda very basic after that, reading anemoia as scum isnt wrong"

2:48 a.m.

how am i misreading that?

Aka

like?

“The fact she is sr’ing abyss isn’t bad from her imo”

2:49 a.m.

That’s how i read that

okay well i didnt read it like that

‍♂️

Reading ane as scum isn't wrong but going from building a good read on someone to then suddenly changing that read and picking up a super basic one out of nowhere is sus and that was the entire point, the progression of how lily was making reads didn't add up

I think the context kinda

2:50 a.m.

Gives it away

EasyOnTheHills

Reading ane as scum isn't wrong but going from building a good read on someone to then suddenly changing that read and picking up a super basic one out of nowhere is sus and that was the entire point, the progression of how lily was making reads didn't add up

how was it out of nowhere tho?

Eoth pls be town :)

2:51 a.m.

I’ll be happy if you are

i

2:51 a.m.

dude stop omfg

And satisfied

okay

Bc that’s what i am currently leaning

2:51 a.m.

Im scared tho bc like rn im fr lost

how r u lost??

Bc no one is scummy

2:52 a.m.

Everyone who has talked

Obviously someone is rn with their half ass reads

Has more chances of being town

2:53 a.m.

Eoth is more towny than scummy

2:53 a.m.

And now im more biased on that bc i want it to be right

I also don't get why Callahan and Lily are so upset at my reads rn, if you wanna say they aren't super concrete that is ok, they are not super concrete, I said as much in my original post, not sure why you two defaulted to a borderline omgus on me

omfg

EasyOnTheHills

I also don't get why Callahan and Lily are so upset at my reads rn, if you wanna say they aren't super concrete that is ok, they are not super concrete, I said as much in my original post, not sure why you two defaulted to a borderline omgus on me

2:53 a.m.

I like this person

2:54 a.m.

You have me in your pocket

EasyOnTheHills

I also don't get why Callahan and Lily are so upset at my reads rn, if you wanna say they aren't super concrete that is ok, they are not super concrete, I said as much in my original post, not sure why you two defaulted to a borderline omgus on me

Yeah they arent super concrete

You have a Gon pfp so as far as I'm concerned you've already pocketed me too

W

2:54 a.m.

Let’s go

It's very obvious you skimmed

Bruh we wouldve killed it as mason

True

I even had this plan of you like sr’ing me and even voting me

2:55 a.m.

Bc i trust myself to get out of it

charlie

It's very obvious you skimmed

Next time I'll just continue to shit post with gifs all of D1

EasyOnTheHills

Next time I'll just continue to shit post with gifs all of D1

Atleast those would be better LOL??

charlie

It's very obvious you skimmed

Idk what’s wrong with not reading every single post tho

charlie

Atleast those would be better LOL??

i-

EasyOnTheHills

Reading ane as scum isn't wrong but going from building a good read on someone to then suddenly changing that read and picking up a super basic one out of nowhere is sus and that was the entire point, the progression of how lily was making reads didn't add up

How?

2:56 a.m.

I read someone as scum who I didn't prior have a read on because they weren't in thread

2:56 a.m.

What could you possibly mean lol

Yeah you don't have to read quite literally everything, I think I touched on what was important so far and trying to discredit my reads because I "skimmed" doesn't make any sense, that would seem to imply that I missed some important details which if so what did I miss?

It's filler reads + reads everybody literally has right now or thought about, I don't know why you are like oh hes town, and then him putting me with Lily is crazy? And he couldn't even explain well why I sounded forced? He litterally got it wrong? He should of said I was coasting with how he was thinking I was doing?

EasyOnTheHills

I also don't get why Callahan and Lily are so upset at my reads rn, if you wanna say they aren't super concrete that is ok, they are not super concrete, I said as much in my original post, not sure why you two defaulted to a borderline omgus on me

I just think your read on me is sloppy and bad

2:57 a.m.

that's all rly

EasyOnTheHills

Yeah you don't have to read quite literally everything, I think I touched on what was important so far and trying to discredit my reads because I "skimmed" doesn't make any sense, that would seem to imply that I missed some important details which if so what did I miss?

You are literally a parrot

and like u might be scum cuz of it

2:57 a.m.

but im not changing my vote YET

2:57 a.m.

cuz ane is scummier

charlie

It's filler reads + reads everybody literally has right now or thought about, I don't know why you are like oh hes town, and then him putting me with Lily is crazy? And he couldn't even explain well why I sounded forced? He litterally got it wrong? He should of said I was coasting with how he was thinking I was doing?

I disagree with a lot of stuff in here tbh

Basic reads for lily but litterally has the same town reads as most people like?

2:58 a.m.

And I think as Lily too?

2:58 a.m.

LIKE???

Especially in the first half

My reads are wildly different than the rest of the game rn

Ngekop

I disagree with a lot of stuff in here tbh

okay

charlie

Basic reads for lily but litterally has the same town reads as most people like?

Everyone is p much

EasyOnTheHills

My reads are wildly different than the rest of the game rn

Dude only with me and Lily

Tr’ing everyone

2:58 a.m.

Also how is the tr on me

2:58 a.m.

Smth everyone shares

2:58 a.m.

Guillo is voting me

2:58 a.m.

You dont tr me

You have the same town reads as basically everybody, so I don't know why u are like i have different reads

2:58 a.m.

like?

Im not even top3 for lily

2:59 a.m.

Sunny said i did smth scummy

2:59 a.m.

How is that a shared read

2:59 a.m.

I dont tr guillo

2:59 a.m.

Neither does abyss

2:59 a.m.

Or sunny

2:59 a.m.

And you and lily dont tr abyss

2:59 a.m.

Like

if ur town and guillo is town then eoth's reads are probably proper for a wolf

And litterally the read on me is combind with lily, like u should of just put me as null like

think abt it that way

Yeah my reads are literally not the same as anyone elses

lilypetal

if ur town and guillo is town then eoth's reads are probably proper for a wolf

So?

2:59 a.m.

The point calla makes

2:59 a.m.

Is flawed

2:59 a.m.

Af

GIRLY>>

think about how a wolf wants to play this game

3:00 a.m.

how they have to push

lilypetal

think about how a wolf wants to play this game

No that’s fine

3:00 a.m.

What calla said isnt tho

okay

How am i flawed

3:00 a.m.

deadass

3:00 a.m.

its true??

im just saying that ur view is a bit bad and not thinking about wolf pov

3:00 a.m.

has nothing to do with callahan

“Reads everybody literally has right now”

3:00 a.m.

That’s

3:00 a.m.

Just

r u

3:00 a.m.

fucking

3:00 a.m.

serious rn

Absolutely wrong

r u fucking

3:01 a.m.

omfg

3:01 a.m.

dude dont talk to me rn

3:01 a.m.

honestly

3:01 a.m.

in the morning yes

3:01 a.m.

but not rn

It is absolutely wrong

3:01 a.m.

I wont shut up about that

Now I'm really starting to lean Callahan as scum more with these reactions

Litterally making a big deal about nothing?

lilypetal

im just saying that ur view is a bit bad and not thinking about wolf pov

If you want to discuss the eoth pov that’s smth else

EasyOnTheHills

Now I'm really starting to lean Callahan as scum more with these reactions

these reactions are so towny LOL

3:01 a.m.

wdym

EasyOnTheHills

Now I'm really starting to lean Callahan as scum more with these reactions

Dude im already SUS to u so idc??

3:01 a.m.

Liek what r u going to do eoth

3:01 a.m.

deadass

I think from the pov of someone who hasnt read everything

kill me?

3:02 a.m.

at night?

The read on you is

3:02 a.m.

Not that bad

3:02 a.m.

I dont agree but

yo

3:02 a.m.

callahan

3:02 a.m.

vote with me

Idt it’s scummy

ngekop, keep being town

Ngekop

Idt it’s scummy

got u

you're being pocketed pretty blatantly

3:02 a.m.

but that's okay

3:02 a.m.

im pretty sure this game is like solved

I still wanna hear from Ziel and whatever that person's name

@Guillo when you have time, read around here

lilypetal

you're being pocketed pretty blatantly

Oh idc about that tbh

3:03 a.m.

If i am then alright

im just letting u know

charlie

I still wanna hear from Ziel and whatever that person's name

Can you

ur compromised a bit

Pls stop saying it like that

and arguing with a villager

Pls

so like

oh okay

3:03 a.m.

uh

3:03 a.m.

wait

3:03 a.m.

Chaos :)

Genesischaos

lilypetal

and arguing with a villager

I can read into that later tbh

3:03 a.m.

As i already said

3:03 a.m.

I hate this rn bc

3:03 a.m.

I dont sl anyone

Oh i have a few scum leans all right

So im clearly wrong somewhere

ngekop what's your read on me?

(Or this is just a lame af game with genesis and ziel mafs which is unlikely af)

lilypetal

ngekop what's your read on me?

Null until this

3:04 a.m.

It got better now

alright

3:04 a.m.

besides your like

3:04 a.m.

problems?

3:04 a.m.

with callahan

3:05 a.m.

whats your read on her

Uh

problems with me..

3:05 a.m.

Slight tl ig?

3:05 a.m.

But she isnt out if her scum range

3:05 a.m.

Like definitely isnt

callahan shush

She got defensive about eoth’s list even before he expanded

3:06 a.m.

Which i dont like

why not?

Bc you want afk’s to give reads and input

3:06 a.m.

And she was kinda shutting it down beforehand

you should maybe reread her reactions a bit when you're less biased, i think the reactions were incredibly towny

Which if i can think like that im p sure calla would do even harder

what's your read on guillo?

Bc calla has that mindset bigger than me

3:06 a.m.

Tbh

lilypetal

what's your read on guillo?

Absolutely null

why? don't you think he's done AI things?

Gth town (again this is for every person who has talked)

lilypetal

why? don't you think he's done AI things?

Nothing out of his scum range tho and nothing particularly scummy

alrighty

Like i have only 3 games with guillo and the one time he was scum he played p well

i believe you and callahan are 100% town atp

I havent seen you as scum

sunny and guillo p towny

Why am i town idgi

3:08 a.m.

I think i was

3:08 a.m.

Way townier

every post you've just made is towny lol

In the last games i played with you

3:08 a.m.

And you sr’d me in both of them

im p sure i imisread you as town in one of them

3:08 a.m.

and you were scum

3:08 a.m.

lol

No

3:08 a.m.

I was town in both

i dont rly remember

You sr’d me in both

i wasnt paying much attention in both of those games tho

(In one of them tho you ended up tr’ing me but this was like d4)

yeah

3:09 a.m.

i had the solve that game

lilypetal

i wasnt paying much attention in both of those games tho

Uhm

3:09 a.m.

In the mountainous hydra you werent??

3:09 a.m.

You were killed n1

3:09 a.m.

And you were kinda tunneling me

oh that game?

3:10 a.m.

i meant the discord ones

That’s the one i remembered tho

idk that game i kinda goated and then got n1'd so i dont remember much of it loool

That one and the one where relm ml’d us b2b smh

lilypetal

idk that game i kinda goated and then got n1'd so i dont remember much of it loool

You tunneled me d1

3:10 a.m.

And i was town

3:10 a.m.

And i was right in my sr btw

yeah and then i arrived at eod and bagged a wolf

Which im proud of

and ate n1

lilypetal

yeah and then i arrived at eod and bagged a wolf

Uh did you? I fr dont remember where did your vote end

yeah

Nvm i think you did vote maf

3:11 a.m.

But like

3:11 a.m.

So did 4 other people

3:11 a.m.

And those 4 pushed harder than you tbf

3:11 a.m.

Anyways not the point

3:11 a.m.

My point is

this is irrelevant ye

I think i was townier that game than i am rn

3:11 a.m.

And you hard sr’d me

it was a hydra game so like

So idgi why am i that towny this time

from my pov your opinion abt it is irrelevant lol

3:12 a.m.

i didnt know which head is which

nor did i even realize that was you

3:12 a.m.

till you just mentioned it

well it kinda sucks bc

3:12 a.m.

That’s my only reference on you

3:12 a.m.

And i know you’re a good player

we played 2 discord ones together

3:13 a.m.

and those games i didnt care too much but i did play

Yeah but you didnt do much on either

so? meta is a crutch read me on my content

And tbh rn i only remember one

lilypetal

so? meta is a crutch read me on my content

I know

Am I pushing the game forward? am I solving?

3:13 a.m.

Read my content and make a read

I said i tl you rn

good

3:13 a.m.

then there's no problem here

3:13 a.m.

now you need to find callahan

But i dont get why am i tr’d for you and i know i dont have enough like basis to have you as like strong tr so that makes me wary

lilypetal

now you need to find callahan

Sigh

you're blatantly towntelling all over thread

This will be a nightmare

and you're wondering why I'm finding you?

3:14 a.m.

lol

I always tr her

idk how to help u there bud

3:14 a.m.

ur towny

3:14 a.m.

deal with it

lilypetal

you're blatantly towntelling all over thread

Guillo clearly doesnt agree lol

maybe he'll read this and change his mind

lilypetal

and you're wondering why I'm finding you?

Yes i am bc i’ve been townier than this

3:15 a.m.

Imo

3:15 a.m.

And i wasnt found back then

those types of reads kinda suck

It isnt a type of read tho

well

3:15 a.m.

it is

3:15 a.m.

you're using experiences to make a read that you should be wary of my tr

3:16 a.m.

but it's incorrect

3:16 a.m.

don't do that

Im not really

3:16 a.m.

Bc you still havent said more than “you’re towny deal with it”

3:16 a.m.

So that on its own even if you ignore past experiences

3:16 a.m.

Isnt enough tl feel comfortable about a tr on you

i mean ive specifically dragged you into a conversation that I'm townreading you for

3:16 a.m.

do I need to like

to*

explain it?

3:17 a.m.

more?

3:17 a.m.

than your posts and responses show thought and nuance

Sigh

Well it’s still just

3:17 a.m.

1/6 of day

3:17 a.m.

I can just go to sleep pingu

ye ill probs go to bed too

3:17 a.m.

and then not read anything

3:17 a.m.

bye

3:17 a.m.

!

But yeah im kinda wary bc

3:17 a.m.

Not only you

3:18 a.m.

But i have 0 sr’s

3:18 a.m.

Which just aint right

3:18 a.m.

Fn

3:18 a.m.

Gn*

lilypetal

you should maybe reread her reactions a bit when you're less biased, i think the reactions were incredibly towny

Btw after his explanations sure ig kinda but i didnt like her immediate reaction to his initial post having just the reads there

3:20 a.m.

Also regarding his reads i thought of it and like

3:20 a.m.

Idt tr’ing the LHF’s while sr’ing two stronger players one of which was p much tr’d and would most likely win a 1v1 against him is smart

3:21 a.m.

I actually think his worst reads are the tl’s on abyss and sunny

3:21 a.m.

Which uh…why would he do that as scum instead of maybe take advantage of the current momentum on abyss and put him at least at null

3:22 a.m.

Unless they’re partnered ofc but eh

3:23 a.m.

I’ll develop on that thought tmrw tbh but idt that’s the team even if ig lily will just disagree

Ngekop

And you, having used meta on me constantly today, cant tell me a time where i deliberately scumtold

The game where we were scum / traitors, where we were not informed that we were a team, you were obvious scum but i had to shut up because there is no way i was gonna bus you in that game. Im as confident that you are scum here as i was there. And this that you said here is WIFOM territory and as such, im gonna judge it for i took it and felt it.

Ngekop

Hurting my brain rn

Why would there be 1 scum at most there? Sounds like a rule of three to me.

Ngekop

I do think however lily/calla never the team here

Why?

EasyOnTheHills

seems like most the day so far has been ngekop vs guillo, which is strange to me if one of them is scum here (though this could just be because they are the most active so far, will have to wait for the day to develop more) Guillo's push is an extremely bold one if scum here, generally coming off as a kinda selfish and headstrong townie Ngekop gives good vibes so far, don't think he's had any poor posts so far and seems to be genuinely interested in advancing the gamestate, which isnt a position I think scum would take right now Anemoia has some more questionable posts, but this comes off to me as a more newbie townie so far, though I would like to see their content improve a bit later on Sunny also gives good vibes but im not sure how much of that so far is charisma rather than actually being townie lilypetal im leaning scum so far, she started the game pretty strong but then quickly switched up her read on callahan and then her reads are kinda very basic after that, reading anemoia as scum isnt wrong but seems strange for her to do after seeing how her read on callahan developed Callahan is scum cause she is SUS, but actually it just feels like shes forcing herself to make posts rather than it being genuine + the lily connection i stated above Ziel and genisischaos havent said anything yet so i cannot really read them, but them being gone so far also makes reads in general pretty unreliable this early on id say

What questionable posts does Anemoia have? (He is not a newbie) Not wrong on Lily fading away after her entrance but she fades away as both town and scum, but townie thought if you havent met lily before. What does her progression on Callahan have anything to do with Anemoia though? Please can you point out the posts you felt were forced from Callahan?

charlie

Why do you say vibes so much

What is the problem with this?

Ngekop

Other than the “am i playing to a higher level” stuff idt there is much that comes off as that

Scummy micro tell. Taking off importance from the target's answer before the target says anything, which contradicts with the “let him cook” statement earlier.

lilypetal

i don't dislike this but your way of gauging time is insane, this day has barely started and i've posted throughout the day so idk how you're saying i fell off just because i made some level 0 posts

You had fell off in activity though up until this point though?

Ngekop

Hm im assuming he is used to like shorter games so maybe 7h can feel like long in here

How do you figure this?

charlie

You dont have to defend EOTH

Callahan is def town

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Callahan, give me a readlist please

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Actually do stay out of 1v1 conversations, you look like you are whiteknighting people.

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EOTH/Lily not aligned Callahan/Lily not aligned

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Why are you so OMGUSy all,of the sudden?

8:02 a.m.

@charlie what is your read on Sunny please?

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Ok, im not liking some of your reactions to EOTH reads my friend. 1) it is really obvious he means the Nge push as you have bolded it here, how can it not be clear already? 2) Good question 3) Ok sure, i answers about that too. 4) What's wrong with gut reads? Your tone is discrediting the gut read, why? 5) I dont like it you accusing his reads of being very basic when he is willingly offering them without prodding him about it, i dont like the fact that you are defending Lily right now even though you accused Nge of defending EOTH, i dont like the fact that you are trying to classify his reads as basic and generic even though you admit he has different reads on both you and lily. 6) The read on you is indeed weak, do you scum read the weak read? Or? 7) ok.

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What? Why poor reading is alignment indicative?

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Are you not interested in knowing more?

8:18 a.m.

So fast to want to jump the gun there @lilypetal

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Im gonna need a readlist from you as soon as you see this Callahan. You are coming off as freaking out about EasyOnTheHillscread on you and Lily.

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Yes! That is very very concerning

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????

8:23 a.m.

Ok Ngekop's reactions are similar to mine

8:24 a.m.

EOTH is town

8:25 a.m.

Lily/Callahan cant be scum together overreacting to EOTH publicly though, can they?

8:26 a.m.

No, i dont think scum act this way unless they are doing that specifically to throw me off and that is a very egoistic way to think

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I dont see it. I think he is town

8:30 a.m.

Callahan is reacting like a wolf whom is afraid that townies will not townread her after EOTH's reads and is trying to shut it down at all costs, i dont like her AtE either.

charlie

dude dont talk to me rn

This AtE

charlie

Dude im already SUS to u so idc??

You are sus to me now, do you care? And you clearly care about EOTH's read on you, you are freaking out all over the place for it. @lilypetal why are you not seeing this?

lilypetal

these reactions are so towny LOL

What?

lilypetal

@Guillo when you have time, read around here

Ive read all of it and honestly the reaction ive seen from both you and callahan perplexes me, why are you both acting like you both got caught by EOTH?

8:35 a.m.

Yah i dont understand it

8:37 a.m.

So either both of you are scum together you @lilypetal and @charlie know each other's alignments somehow and are OMGUSing together. What is it?n

lilypetal

every post you've just made is towny lol

Every post? Why the lol?

8:39 a.m.

Ok Nge is town

8:45 a.m.

@lilypetal up until this point ive been accepting you treating me like im your mason, cause the idea of baiting the kill for the whoever the real masons are gives me purpose, but i dont like your reaction to EOTH and how you dont see that Calla's reaction to him are overblown and aggressively OMGUSy, so im gonna state that if i was a mason, my mason would not be Lilypetal and disassociate myself from you.

Ngekop

Guillo clearly doesnt agree lol

I didnt? And?

Ngekop

Which uh…why would he do that as scum instead of maybe take advantage of the current momentum on abyss and put him at least at null

Correct again

8:52 a.m.

Town EasyOnTheHill Ngekop Sunny Anemoia Scum Callahan Lily Unless these two end up being Masons, (if they are, if im thinking it whoever scum are are thinking it too because they are very obviously paired) which i dont care to out because i dont like their reaction to EOTH and if scum can resolve them for me even better!

i actually read allat

Guillo

I didnt? And?

I meant I didnt. And?

SUNNY!!

i actually read allat

Readlist please

Guillo

EOTH/Lily not aligned Callahan/Lily not aligned

Yah never mind about lily/calla here

9:25 a.m.

Go on Sunny

9:25 a.m.

I saw you typing

Guillo

Readlist please

not crazy fancy since i was asleep when you guys were talking but Town Read - Town Lean - EOTH, Guillo: I don't entirely think that Guillo is town, because of things I mentioned earlier in the day during the back and forth between him and nge, but he's been acting more townie now and pushing for reads and stuff. Not sure if he's just switching up now just to escape getting lynched, but I trust him for now. EOTH's readlist, and how he handled the reactions to pretty townie to me!! I think i still need to see more of him though, considering his inactivity at the start. Of course, he hasn't voted Calla or Lily either, so he's not entirely town to me. Null - Nge, Ziel, Other Guy I really cannot tell whether NGE is town or maf right know, since it seems like he's playing for both sides rn.

I brought up the thing where he was trying to quietly imply he was town, saying things like "i can't be mafia because if i was i would do this instead of that" which will never not seem scummy to me. At the same time, most of the stuff he's doing is fairly townie, questioning his own votes and everyone else,, Ziel and Other Guy haven't said a word, unless I missed them. Nothing to go off of

Scum Lean - Lily, Calla Sorry, but I feel like Callahan is trying to blend in with town by making jokes and talking w/ me, saying we're a team and stuff,,, I agree but it's the same thing she did in past games when she was scum, so i can't be sure if it's genuine here either

Her reaction to EOTH's SR was a bit much to me, especially since both her and lily started pushing against EOTH after that. Lily isn't completely Scum to me, but she seems very aligned with Callahan, even asking calla to vote with her and asking people for reads on Callahan specifically Scum Read: none lol

I dont understand your reads

vuys respond i feel stupid

1) what posts from me are townie?

9:36 a.m.

2) If Nge seems like playing for both sides, wouldnt this mean he is unaligned?

mainly these kinds of things https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169610956922421338 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169613165726810142 you seem to SL/SR calla and lily after EOTH posted his reads, but aren't pushing them like crazy and are giving them a chance which just seems townie to me, being unsure about things like this without hearing the reasoning from both sides (at least i hope that's what you doing) 2) I didn't mean that literally,,,, Maybe I should've phrased it better, but I feel that NGE has both scummy and townie traits here

‍♂️

9:42 a.m.

Fair, i've had the same impression but his real time reactions to callahan which were similar to mine places him in my town list or i will gladly accept that he played me

9:44 a.m.

That being said i do have potential pairings

9:44 a.m.

Lily/Callahan Nge/AOTH

9:46 a.m.

@SUNNY!! where is your vote?

9:46 a.m.

You havent voted a single time today Sunny

9:47 a.m.

Even though you allegedly have had suspicions on people

~~forgor~~ im still giving ziel and other guy the benefit of the doubt, that they'll speak so i can get a full list and actually decide who's more likely to be an SR

9:49 a.m.

i should vote though,, maybe

SUNNY!!

~~forgor~~ im still giving ziel and other guy the benefit of the doubt, that they'll speak so i can get a full list and actually decide who's more likely to be an SR

Say they both zero post up until one hour before EoD? What would you do about it?

id say it depends on the reasoning on why they were afk but in that case I'd just go for one of my SLs since I don't have anything else

I like it

9:57 a.m.

Good answer

Why in your scum reads, you say none and then laugh, what is the story?

hey its @Ngekop

10:00 a.m.

i wonder if he remembers me

Guillo

Why in your scum reads, you say none and then laugh, what is the story?

nothing special, i just didn't wanna leave it blank

hey @SUNNY!! how far should i scroll up and read

10:04 a.m.

guess ill read all of it then

you missed a lot

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169425200773857300 I know its a lot but i think this is a good place if you're looking for EVERYTHING and not just a small summary

yeah i skimmed through a lot of it

I suggest not to skim anything

10:16 a.m.

Catch up, you still have 33 hours left, lots of time to catch and participate

Litterally what is this I’m so confused

10:49 a.m.

Why are back to nitpicking

10:49 a.m.

We

10:51 a.m.

My reaction is apparently was the only thing scummy about me, which I don’t believe is scummy at all because lol? I being mirco read rn which is crazy

10:52 a.m.

Like tell me how I am suppose to react SMILE

No. Those things are not told.

So okay I wanna you to tell me something

10:53 a.m.

My overall game play is town, correct?

No

So one single thing is now pointing me as scum in your eyes?

Guillo

No

Obviously, what other scummy things have I done?

10:54 a.m.

Because you didn’t metion them

10:54 a.m.

In your read

I dont need to, you are scum because your reaction to a single player's read with no influence was overblown, you TMIed a slank town in my opinion.

Oh okay we love when ppl can't talk with other ppl?

What is more perplexing is lily,she should know better

You don't wanna talk to me to see if I slip u my scum partner or something

10:56 a.m.

Like what kind of logic is rhat

10:56 a.m.

Hmm?

10:56 a.m.

I mean sure you go ahead and talk

Why wouldn't u talk to me if u think I'm scum

Am i refusing to talk to you? Arent we talking right now?

You won't tell me what else makes me scummy…?

I addressed your reaction to EasyOnTheHill, so far you have not ounter it and you are admitting it looks scummy so, i cant be more convinced

I don't think it's scummy

10:58 a.m.

I don't believe it's an overreaction

Well it is

I don't even think it was a big reaction

And Nge stated it

10:59 a.m.

And Sunny as well

Um I didn't know Nge was this big deal to you?

It three voices mow

Weren't u just scum reading him a minute ago…?

10:59 a.m.

charlie

Um I didn't know Nge was this big deal to you?

Newsflash, we townies can change our minds when we please

Girlie

10:59 a.m.

Omfg

11:00 a.m.

Anyways

charlie

Weren't u just scum reading him a minute ago…?

I thought you read my content, have you not?

I don’t think my reaction was a overreaction, I generally believe his reads were very poor, I didn’t like how he was thinking, I didn’t like his reasons + they counteracted him a lot, and overall is was sloppy. I expect wayyyy better from him as a player, so I guess you can see I’m rather disappointed, and generally a bit upset that he thought I was scum because I really do think I’m probably have been playing the best version of myself this game and I’m very obviously town.

11:03 a.m.

I’m not sure how else to defend myself or my actions but pushing forward into the game and not hyper focusing on it

charlie

I don’t think my reaction was a overreaction, I generally believe his reads were very poor, I didn’t like how he was thinking, I didn’t like his reasons + they counteracted him a lot, and overall is was sloppy. I expect wayyyy better from him as a player, so I guess you can see I’m rather disappointed, and generally a bit upset that he thought I was scum because I really do think I’m probably have been playing the best version of myself this game and I’m very obviously town.

You were towny up until that point, then you just freaked out.

charlie

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Starting from here and 9 pings is INSANE

Guillo

You were towny up until that point, then you just freaked out.

Yeah which I explained above, I really don’t think I freaked out but I really can’t change your opinion other then trying to work with you to see I am town in other ways ig

Guillo

The game where we were scum / traitors, where we were not informed that we were a team, you were obvious scum but i had to shut up because there is no way i was gonna bus you in that game. Im as confident that you are scum here as i was there. And this that you said here is WIFOM territory and as such, im gonna judge it for i took it and felt it.

Wrong

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Bc there arent 2

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Reads : Ngekop - Null Sunny - Town Lean Chaos - Null Ziel - Null Lily - Null Ane - Scum lean Guillo - Town lean EOTH - Scum lean

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Keep reading?

Im at a point where im willing to execute you and lily back to back just to make sure i didnt catch you both slipping, which would be a story for the ages because i've never seen two scum outing themselves for one single guy coming out of nowhere with actual reads

11:05 a.m.

@Ngekop

Guillo

Im at a point where im willing to execute you and lily back to back just to make sure i didnt catch you both slipping, which would be a story for the ages because i've never seen two scum outing themselves for one single guy coming out of nowhere with actual reads

?

Stop pretending you are catching up

Guillo

What questionable posts does Anemoia have? (He is not a newbie) Not wrong on Lily fading away after her entrance but she fades away as both town and scum, but townie thought if you havent met lily before. What does her progression on Callahan have anything to do with Anemoia though? Please can you point out the posts you felt were forced from Callahan?

1. Imo he still is a newbie 2. EXACTLY, AGREED 3. ^^

Guillo

Im at a point where im willing to execute you and lily back to back just to make sure i didnt catch you both slipping, which would be a story for the ages because i've never seen two scum outing themselves for one single guy coming out of nowhere with actual reads

That doesn’t make sense? When you can literally keep reading me and figure out I’m town?

lilypetal

?

Did i not type proper English?

Did you get worse overnight

11:06 a.m.

What happened

The thing I don’t understand why me and Lily are partner is our very early interactions like, why as scum partners would we be throwing hands so early?

charlie

That doesn’t make sense? When you can literally keep reading me and figure out I’m town?

Or i can execute the crap out of you and find that answer easily.

Why would she point out my “LAMST” post

11:07 a.m.

As my scum partner

lilypetal

Did you get worse overnight

Read my content, town you does it

Guillo

Scummy micro tell. Taking off importance from the target's answer before the target says anything, which contradicts with the “let him cook” statement earlier.

Not really, im putting more pressure on them having to give a convincing answer if they are scum bc im already leaving the precedent that i, someone who has read everything, didnt see that; while if he is town then he’ll just answer genuinely the same thing he wouldve done so otherwise

So early in the day like?

Guillo

Read my content, town you does it

I just woke up

11:08 a.m.

So I'm going to read my pings and reply

Guillo

Or i can execute the crap out of you and find that answer easily.

Why is this so anti town

Guillo

How do you figure this?

Bc callahan is from there and she’s the one who invited him

Just saw that post and went wow that's sad

11:08 a.m.

Lmao

Guillo

Actually do stay out of 1v1 conversations, you look like you are whiteknighting people.

Idgaf i speak my mind if i have thoughts, no need to restrain myself there

charlie

The thing I don’t understand why me and Lily are partner is our very early interactions like, why as scum partners would we be throwing hands so early?

Because maybe scum!lily knows i read into those and tried to throw me off. Or maybe you both are not scum but one of you is.

Guillo

Callahan is def town

Bc of that? Wat

Guillo

Because maybe scum!lily knows i read into those and tried to throw me off. Or maybe you both are not scum but one of you is.

So I gotta die bc Lily might be scum

11:09 a.m.

LIKE??

charlie

So I gotta die bc Lily might be scum

No, you gotta die because your scummier

I’m scummy bc of one thing okay…

11:10 a.m.

Why is everybody so creative in here SMILE

charlie

I’m scummy bc of one thing okay…

Yah, one thing can give scum away…

Guillo

Ok, im not liking some of your reactions to EOTH reads my friend. 1) it is really obvious he means the Nge push as you have bolded it here, how can it not be clear already? 2) Good question 3) Ok sure, i answers about that too. 4) What's wrong with gut reads? Your tone is discrediting the gut read, why? 5) I dont like it you accusing his reads of being very basic when he is willingly offering them without prodding him about it, i dont like the fact that you are defending Lily right now even though you accused Nge of defending EOTH, i dont like the fact that you are trying to classify his reads as basic and generic even though you admit he has different reads on both you and lily. 6) The read on you is indeed weak, do you scum read the weak read? Or? 7) ok.

Bro i keep getting mixed feelings on you bc this is smth i genuinely love

Ngekop

Bro i keep getting mixed feelings on you bc this is smth i genuinely love

We gucci man, i propose we work together and kill scum

Guillo

Yah, one thing can give scum away…

I’m flabbergasted I thought 20+ years of mafia experience would have made u solve my slot easily but ig not

charlie

I’m flabbergasted I thought 20+ years of mafia experience would have made u solve my slot easily but ig not

Nice gaslight attempt

Guillo

Callahan is reacting like a wolf whom is afraid that townies will not townread her after EOTH's reads and is trying to shut it down at all costs, i dont like her AtE either.

Is guillo actually town

aaaa

Guillo

Nice gaslight attempt

Girly where?

11:12 a.m.

How is that gaslighting?

You are appealing to my experience to make me doubt myself in a mocking way

Do you know what gaslighting is?

11:12 a.m.

Yes

Dude u have no idea what gaslighting is

11:13 a.m.

That is insane

Yes i know what it is

No u don’t LOL

It is what you just did

Guillo

@lilypetal up until this point ive been accepting you treating me like im your mason, cause the idea of baiting the kill for the whoever the real masons are gives me purpose, but i dont like your reaction to EOTH and how you dont see that Calla's reaction to him are overblown and aggressively OMGUSy, so im gonna state that if i was a mason, my mason would not be Lilypetal and disassociate myself from you.

Ok guillo is definitely towny after this i-

Whatever, not extremely important and im immune to it anyway

Oh okay ig?

11:14 a.m.

charlie

I’m flabbergasted I thought 20+ years of mafia experience would have made u solve my slot easily but ig not

Bad post

11:14 a.m.

Lmao

Anyways I can’t speak with you because you have confirmation bias

lilypetal

Bad post

I’m sorry?

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It’s a point against lily’s statement

charlie

Anyways I can’t speak with you because you have confirmation bias

No, im pretty certain you are outed scum

Oh okay

Bc clearly not all my messages are just obv towny as she says

One vote on me is not going to do shit dude

11:15 a.m.

Oh no so scary

11:15 a.m.

I might be mislynched

Ngekop

Bc clearly not all my messages are just obv towny as she says

I said all of your messages to me felt obvtown

11:15 a.m.

Tbf

charlie

One vote on me is not going to do shit dude

That's alright, you keep talking the way you are and those will come by themselves

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I doubt they are ever the mafia team as i already stated

Guillo

That's alright, you keep talking the way you are and those will come by themselves

Oh okay ig

11:15 a.m.

I’m scared

11:15 a.m.

I’m shaking

charlie

I’m sorry?

You're getting scumread and going wow how can such a good player be so skill issued

11:16 a.m.

That's not a defense

11:16 a.m.

Just kinda ate

Yeah I’m sorry oops

You are being performative and petty like outed scum

It’s because the reason is stupid

11:16 a.m.

Like how am I suppose to defend myself when it’s like u overreacted

11:16 a.m.

And then I say no I didn’t

11:16 a.m.

And then he says no u did

Guillo

You are being performative and petty like outed scum

Nah town can definitely act like that

11:16 a.m.

Guillo if you're town you need to step outside of yourself for a moment

No

Callahan's response is bad but villagers reply poorly lol

Oh

Where is Callahan outed? Can you ping me and show me where you began your SR

11:18 a.m.

I'll check it out later

It was when I reacted to EOTH’s poorly made reads

The only thing that can make me get out of it is if she claims masons with you Lily tbh because you both are pairing yourself pretty badly here and with very poor logic, specially towards EasyOnTheHill.

lilypetal

Where is Callahan outed? Can you ping me and show me where you began your SR

No, ISO me, wtf?

11:18 a.m.

Read my content

Isoing is awful on discord

Well i do it, so you do it too, im not your secretary

Alright I probably won't

Wow

11:19 a.m.

Ok

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Uh… 1. You had me in the first half and lost me in the second bc shading without much commitment is like typical scum behavior. 2. Nothing to say there ig

Well

Apparently I'm a wolf with Callahan so it's not like working with you is likely anyway lmao

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Can people stop referring to him as other guy omfg

11:20 a.m.

His name is not even hard

lilypetal

Apparently I'm a wolf with Callahan so it's not like working with you is likely anyway lmao

Well there is always the doubt that it is only you, it would be in your best intetest to convince me you are not with her

11:21 a.m.

Unless you are ok with me believing it

Oh okay so I’m just

genesischaos

i wonder if he remembers me

Ofc i do

scum no matter what

I'm not that scared of you and I know how you play guillo

11:21 a.m.

It's not worth my time

Wait are you still here????

11:21 a.m.

As in in the thread

I will solve in my own corner and win the game on my own terms

Ok he is not sigh

lilypetal

I'm not that scared of you and I know how you play guillo

Who said anything about being scared?

Why is this convo so nitpicking

Well, your post kinda does lol

11:22 a.m.

It's not in my best interest to care abt your read

lilypetal

Well, your post kinda does lol

Yah? Maybe you are scared

lilypetal

It's not in my best interest to care abt your read

No?

Yeah thats how you play the game right

11:23 a.m.

I play the game by finding a towncore and getting a game winning poe which i prolly have

Yah? This is what i think. In the unlikely event that callahan is town, you look like you have TMI that she is

Oh yeah I have tmi for being right when you're not

11:24 a.m.

Spoooooky

11:24 a.m.

Original read

11:24 a.m.

Anyway, I'll reply to your pings later when I'm on my computer

There is no way you read her reaction to Easy and say she is town when three of us, no 4 of us thought she was scummy for it

Guillo

Im at a point where im willing to execute you and lily back to back just to make sure i didnt catch you both slipping, which would be a story for the ages because i've never seen two scum outing themselves for one single guy coming out of nowhere with actual reads

Uh

And you have voted scum me for much much less too Lily

Guillo

There is no way you read her reaction to Easy and say she is town when three of us, no 4 of us thought she was scummy for it

Why?

11:25 a.m.

lol

I reaaaaaaaaaally doubt they are both mafs reacting that way to eoth lol

Ngekop

I reaaaaaaaaaally doubt they are both mafs reacting that way to eoth lol

I doubt it but can you imagine

lilypetal

lol

What?

Why am I like laughing rn

11:26 a.m.

I love this game

11:26 a.m.

You guys are actually fun

charlie

Why am I like laughing rn

Guillo

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LMFAO

Like why is that the case

That is you

11:27 a.m.

Calla

Nah im smiling rn I swear

Like why is my reaction not being consensus bad

I’m like :)

lilypetal

Like why is my reaction not being consensus bad

What you mean?

Guillo

There is no way you read her reaction to Easy and say she is town when three of us, no 4 of us thought she was scummy for it

You're saying that because my read is anti consensus I'm a wolf tmi'ing/her partner, no?

11:28 a.m.

Which is..a very level 0 take for you

11:28 a.m.

And I want you to explain why

lilypetal

I said all of your messages to me felt obvtown

Fair but point kinda still stands bc most of my content before that was still read by guillo by then

Ngekop

Fair but point kinda still stands bc most of my content before that was still read by guillo by then

Look, atp you're either a wolf faking immense skill issue or you're just like one of those villagers who will always be paranoid and I can never really work with.

The one thing is I’m so confused on the fact me and Lily are paired because we both didn’t agree with EOTH’s reads? How does that make us automatically paired in your eyes?

Find me as town or not idc

charlie

It’s because the reason is stupid

Isnt this what you pointed out scum gets annoyed mostly at

Ngekop

Isnt this what you pointed out scum gets annoyed mostly at

This is different and I’m a hypocrite

charlie

And then he says no u did

Bc like 3 people have voiced out they perceived it that way

lilypetal

You're saying that because my read is anti consensus I'm a wolf tmi'ing/her partner, no?

Yah im saying the read is so anti consensus to epic proportions that if she is town, then you are scum or both are Mason and you are trying to save her ass without claiming, that is the while thought.

Ngekop

Bc like 3 people have voiced out they perceived it that way

I mean are u guys voting me though?

Guillo

Yah im saying the read is so anti consensus to epic proportions that if she is town, then you are scum or both are Mason and you are trying to save her ass without claiming, that is the while thought.

This seems like a noob read

11:30 a.m.

Are you a noob?

If my overall gameplay is town and I made one bad move ( ig? ) doesn’t mean I’m scum

Why can't I simply read her posts as towny as town regardless of her alignment.

11:30 a.m.

Why can't I be "anti-consensus"

lilypetal

This seems like a noob read

Dont insult me, i e caught experienced wolves doing noobie plays.

Also like reads like that are inherently anti town

If you are gonna get in the business of insults then lets not talk anymore

And you know it

11:31 a.m.

I mean, I just said your read is like a new player's read because it lacks nuance and you're not a new player so (edited)

11:32 a.m.

What's up with that

Right now the best you can do is find me scum and give a fully detailed readlist

You seem kind of agenda'd

11:32 a.m.

I have two scumreads

11:32 a.m.

And I can write one up in a bit

Ok, im going to the gum, i expect to see it when im back

11:33 a.m.

Gym

lilypetal

Look, atp you're either a wolf faking immense skill issue or you're just like one of those villagers who will always be paranoid and I can never really work with.

Lol?

Guillo

Yah im saying the read is so anti consensus to epic proportions that if she is town, then you are scum or both are Mason and you are trying to save her ass without claiming, that is the while thought.

Really? That extreme?

lilypetal

I mean, I just said your read is like a new player's read because it lacks nuance and you're not a new player so (edited)

You cant edit posts btw

This game is fun and this moment is fun but I don’t know what else to say, like I know it’s the big event right now so I have to wait on everybody’s comments but like yeah

11:36 a.m.

I HC town.

Finally

11:37 a.m.

Finished catching up

11:37 a.m.

This game just got more fun ngl

Okay wow take my words ig

People def started getting out of their comfort zone

charlie

Okay wow take my words ig

You did it first

Anyways

11:37 a.m.

Uh

I been looking at other game we are wayyy more ahead

11:37 a.m.

Idk

Yeahhhhh lol

Ngekop

You cant edit posts btw

mb just corrected grammar

11:38 a.m.

wont again

Yeah that’s fair

11:38 a.m.

Just letting you know

11:38 a.m.

Anyways idk what to make of all of this yet

Oh

11:39 a.m.

I feel like u been sitting on the fence for awhile

Also @lilypetal even if i dont tr you i can still work with you?

charlie

I feel like u been sitting on the fence for awhile

Bc i am

sort of?

GULLIO DIDNT WANT TO WORK WITH ME??

if you fully want to work with me then your read on me cant be like that tho

11:39 a.m.

its a personal thing

Like work with me so u can figure out I’m town like

Callahan is a hard read

11:39 a.m.

Ngl

Oh

11:39 a.m.

Hard town thanks

I have been right on her only like 50% of the time

Which is low af

I thought it would be higher

Ngekop

I have been right on her only like 50% of the time

(If you dont count times i tmi’d her as scum ofc)

Do you believe I am in my scum game rn nge

Def in scum range

11:40 a.m.

You are able to be really tonally towny as scum many times

Have you ever seen me react like that when I’m scum read when I was scum

I also think your reaction to eoth wasnt great but given there is kinda some personal stuff there i dont know much about idk if i can push it that much

charlie

Have you ever seen me react like that when I’m scum read when I was scum

Uh

Oh yeah I hate eoth deadass

I mean kinda with mel?

Jk jk

11:41 a.m.

I did?

Yeah bc you thought it was just for meta

I thought it was Lune who did that and I laughed at them

11:42 a.m.

I was this is so funny

And that annoyed you

Maybe idk

11:42 a.m.

I don’t really remember

11:42 a.m.

But I wouldn’t play this sloppy as scum, I know that

The thing is as you said

11:43 a.m.

It was only ONE moment

11:43 a.m.

Where you overreacted

Oh I overreacted to u once

11:43 a.m.

As town

11:43 a.m.

And I raged sub

11:43 a.m.

Haha

11:43 a.m.

11:44 a.m.

Haha…

Yeah that was uncalled for ngl

11:44 a.m.

But ig there was more stuff in there

I had to leave before I was going to get toxic

Behind that

11:44 a.m.

I think sam said smth like

11:45 a.m.

“The towniest thing calla has done this game is replacing out”

11:45 a.m.

Why is that so sad

Towniest thing callahan did this game was replacing out

11:45 a.m.

Wow

11:45 a.m.

My memory is

11:45 a.m.

Insane

Sam is my biggest op tf

Anyways

Anyways PLS PLS PLS Marco read me rather then mirco read me

❤️

Sam/abi/i agreed there

charlie

Anyways PLS PLS PLS Marco read me rather then mirco read me

❤️

Im not microreading you

11:46 a.m.

I cant do the other thing tho

Ik but I’m announcing that to everybody

Bc all the times i’ve played with you

11:46 a.m.

You’ve been overall towny

11:46 a.m.

Imo

11:47 a.m.

Except that game where you were town and subbed out

11:47 a.m.

Have I been super townie this game, I feel really good idk how to describe it, like usually when I’m town I’m like omfg im so scummy which I was in the beginning feeling like but now I just feel so town

11:47 a.m.

Like I’m just I’m so obviously town which is like u can say I’m not but

11:47 a.m.

I can’t change that opinion but like I feel like I’m in my groove

If you dont like

Anyways, I don’t think I need to keep defending myself but from what I’m seeing people are saying it’s a overreaction, I can’t connivence people otherwise so, I just gotta show them in other ways I’m town ig, which is progressing this game

#LAMST

Take that overreaction into account

11:49 a.m.

You def have been tonally towny

Yeah that’s why I want people to Marco read me because I don’t believe it was a overreaction but if that’s the only thing pointing to the fact I’m scum and rest of my gameplay is town then IM TOWN

You def have been playing to be tr’d if you’re scum

Oh yeah

11:50 a.m.

I would be hunting for masons tho as scum rn

Yes but

11:50 a.m.

In scum chat

11:50 a.m.

Not in here

Oh

11:51 a.m.

What do u mean

You’d do the mason hunting in scum chat?

Yes but no

11:51 a.m.

I would be setting up ppl and seeing their reactions

Anyways idt you and lily are a scum pair ever so i disagree with that take from guillo

Lightly pushing ppl and seeing how ppl react to that push

However his progression on me seems overall genuine and idt his “mindmelding” with me was forced so i also tl that from him

No I town lean him still

11:52 a.m.

100%

11:52 a.m.

My reads are still the same

charlie

Lightly pushing ppl and seeing how ppl react to that push

You did that with abyss

charlie

No I town lean him still

I know

11:53 a.m.

Which is lowkey a concern

11:53 a.m.

Bc you are wary of me but

Ngekop

You did that with abyss

I wasn’t lightly pushing him I don’t think so

You had him as top town

11:53 a.m.

In the game he was scum

OMFG

11:53 a.m.

don’t even

11:53 a.m.

Omfg

11:53 a.m.

I’m so embarrassed

11:53 a.m.

Do u want to see my

Why

Early thoughts

11:53 a.m.

Of gullio and Lily

You werent the only one

charlie

Of gullio and Lily

Lily played that game? What

11:53 a.m.

No she didnt

No no I’m talking about this game

11:54 a.m.

In the beginning

Oh

11:54 a.m.

What about those

Nge and I are known to never actually get along as town, and we seem to be getting along right now, which is causing me to be wary... Gullio and Lily seem to have a history, and they both attacked me for my LAMST post, which is okay, right? But, it felt very nitpicking in my opinion, and while Lily dismissed Nge's meta claim on me, but then uses her own meta on Gullio, but doesn't have any real meta on Gullio anyways? Ane seems to be frozen, like Nge said. Gullio seems to be asking random questions that lead nowhere and clog up the thread, but this is not how he plays as scum, but using Lily's claim that Gullio opens wolfs as wolf contracts my meta on him as a deep wolf? Also on the fact Lily went on defense for Gullio right away when I spoke about how I would have town lean him if he was a new player who claimed mafia ( using Sunny as an example ), which is reasonable?

I also would assume she would agree with me even though we had different ways of viewing Gullio we both came to the same conclusion he could be scum? As she said he could be scum because of that, while I said I wouldn't town lean him for that?

11:57 a.m.

Like

11:57 a.m.

The thing is me and Lily can never be paired bc like

charlie

Nge and I are known to never actually get along as town, and we seem to be getting along right now, which is causing me to be wary... Gullio and Lily seem to have a history, and they both attacked me for my LAMST post, which is okay, right? But, it felt very nitpicking in my opinion, and while Lily dismissed Nge's meta claim on me, but then uses her own meta on Gullio, but doesn't have any real meta on Gullio anyways? Ane seems to be frozen, like Nge said. Gullio seems to be asking random questions that lead nowhere and clog up the thread, but this is not how he plays as scum, but using Lily's claim that Gullio opens wolfs as wolf contracts my meta on him as a deep wolf? Also on the fact Lily went on defense for Gullio right away when I spoke about how I would have town lean him if he was a new player who claimed mafia ( using Sunny as an example ), which is reasonable?

I also would assume she would agree with me even though we had different ways of viewing Gullio we both came to the same conclusion he could be scum? As she said he could be scum because of that, while I said I wouldn't town lean him for that?

Are we getting along?

What I have in my notes

Oh wait your early thoughts

Is the fact she didn’t agree with me and got Sus of me

Ngekop

Oh wait your early thoughts

Yeah lol

11:59 a.m.

Like I just the early interactions with me and Lily don’t make sense to why we are paired like I have it my notes

11:59 a.m.

And I literally asked serveal times how we are paired and Guillo has failed to explain

11:59 a.m.

And then EOTH paired us which is like okay

What you have about lily there is towny

If he was like Lily was picketing

Although maybe a bit early for it to be that relevant

I have her as null still

@genesischaos come baaaaaaack

Obviously my opinions shifted as the game went on but like

charlie

And then EOTH paired us which is like okay

I strongly disagree with this

12:00 p.m.

Those were individual reads

I was scum bc of Lily

Which dont take partner interactions inti account

charlie

I was scum bc of Lily

To eoth? No

Yes

Uh

12:01 p.m.

No

12:01 p.m.

He said you felt forced

Callahan is scum cause she is SUS, but actually it just feels like shes forcing herself to make posts rather than it being genuine + the lily connection i stated above

And like pretending to be progressing the gamestate and be good towny when not actually doing much in that regard

charlie

Callahan is scum cause she is SUS, but actually it just feels like shes forcing herself to make posts rather than it being genuine + the lily connection i stated above

Where was this

12:02 p.m.

Tf

His whole read list?

Ngekop

And like pretending to be progressing the gamestate and be good towny when not actually doing much in that regard

I feel like I been eating up this game so

Wtf

12:03 p.m.

How did i miss that part

12:03 p.m.

That’s funny

Yeah so he’s connected me with Lily

12:03 p.m.

Which doesn’t make sense to me

Anyways i still disagree with the take but dont think it’s like

lilypetal

I mean, I just said your read is like a new player's read because it lacks nuance and you're not a new player so (edited)

I decided not to go to the gym, i have a sore throat, i dint want to infect everyone there.

It is not a noob read at all.

Let’s pretend that we all know Callahan is town: EasyOnTheHill, Ngekop, Sunny and myself suspected Callahan for her reaction to EOTH reads, even if in this group the two scums are involved, there are still two towns that had a genuine reaction to Callahan, if we are gonna use the logic that no two-scums are gonna publicly gang up on townie, then there can only be a max if one scum in that 4-people group which would make it even more a genuine read and it is not even a consensus read, it is a consensus reaction to her reaction lol. So i know im not wrong to feel the way i gelt about Callahan and three other people validate it, so i have the authority to say that someone townreading her reaction is scum with TMI that Callahan is town. And yes, i have an agenda, i have the agenda of wiping the floor with wolves’s fur and get a perfect victory, maybe advance to finals and who knows! I might even with the loot prize!

That AI

So I’m town?

12:04 p.m.

Oh

12:04 p.m.

Wait

12:04 p.m.

We are pretending

12:04 p.m.

Damn I was like ayy he finally town reads me

Guillo

I decided not to go to the gym, i have a sore throat, i dint want to infect everyone there.

It is not a noob read at all.

Let’s pretend that we all know Callahan is town: EasyOnTheHill, Ngekop, Sunny and myself suspected Callahan for her reaction to EOTH reads, even if in this group the two scums are involved, there are still two towns that had a genuine reaction to Callahan, if we are gonna use the logic that no two-scums are gonna publicly gang up on townie, then there can only be a max if one scum in that 4-people group which would make it even more a genuine read and it is not even a consensus read, it is a consensus reaction to her reaction lol. So i know im not wrong to feel the way i gelt about Callahan and three other people validate it, so i have the authority to say that someone townreading her reaction is scum with TMI that Callahan is town. And yes, i have an agenda, i have the agenda of wiping the floor with wolves’s fur and get a perfect victory, maybe advance to finals and who knows! I might even with the loot prize!

yea okay

12:05 p.m.

other ppl agree with me therefore im right is not a good read

charlie

Oh yeah I hate eoth deadass

I hate this, please leave personal out of here

Guillo

I hate this, please leave personal out of here

IM JOKING IM JOKING

12:06 p.m.

I WOULD NEVER HATE EOTH

12:06 p.m.

PLS PLS DO NOT THINK THAT

12:07 p.m.

I love eoth

12:07 p.m.

10/10 guy

lilypetal

other ppl agree with me therefore im right is not a good read

Well im not unvoting in fact im parking here

Oh okay

Guillo

Well im not unvoting in fact im parking here

spooky

charlie

Anyways, I don’t think I need to keep defending myself but from what I’m seeing people are saying it’s a overreaction, I can’t connivence people otherwise so, I just gotta show them in other ways I’m town ig, which is progressing this game

#LAMST

That is a great idea

Guillo

That is a great idea

Thank u

charlie

I would be hunting for masons tho as scum rn

I would be distancing from my masons if i was town mason

Guillo

I would be distancing from my masons if i was town mason

Oh didn’t u

12:10 p.m.

Wait I’m confused

12:10 p.m.

Okay hmm

If calla’s scum i admire the effort she is putting in

Thank u

️

charlie

Like I just the early interactions with me and Lily don’t make sense to why we are paired like I have it my notes

Ok sure you both are not paired.

Okay yeah thank u

Thanking me for smth i said with “if calla’s scum”

I’m open wolfing now

Changing tatics

12:12 p.m.

Y’all think I can only play deep wolf, I can open wolf

Why do you wanna open wolf?

You changing tactics for lols

12:13 p.m.

Is also a scumtell from you

I mean I’m joking obviously

Of course

So i hope it isnt serious

Oh shot I'm putting the odds against me

12:13 p.m.

Shit

And you dont actually do it

Yah

12:13 p.m.

Like… you are overdoing it Calla

Oh okay

12:14 p.m.

I can't amuse myself a little

@EasyOnTheHills hi

12:14 p.m.

Wya

He's probs working

Sad

Lily/Calla is a difference check or im bad at mafia

He's a chef

Guillo

Lily/Calla is a difference check or im bad at mafia

Why not both clueless

charlie

He's a chef

Stressful

Guillo

Lily/Calla is a difference check or im bad at mafia

Did u change ur opinion bc I told u we weren't or was there something else?

Ngekop

Why not both clueless

Because they worked their ass off to let us know they are not aligned, no scum ever address that, they just ho away, come back later and derail the game thread another way.

Is it bad i say out loud i think calla’s role always starts with an M?

Wow

Guillo

Because they worked their ass off to let us know they are not aligned, no scum ever address that, they just ho away, come back later and derail the game thread another way.

~~I was trolling and saying why cant they both be a diff check and you bad at mafia~~

Ngekop

~~I was trolling and saying why cant they both be a diff check and you bad at mafia~~

In case you were not

12:17 p.m.

Im not good at catching humor over text

Slay its okay

Hence why my style is serious and competitive

Reminds me of someone

@Anemoia/Abyss whenever you can pop in you missed a lot

12:18 p.m.

K there is not much to do rn with only you two here

12:18 p.m.

Ping me if someone else comes in ig

@genesischaos have you caught up yet? @ziel.16 why are you frozen?

12:19 p.m.

Oh

Anyways lets change the topic : Vote Count Follower : Ngekop -Voted Gullio because RVS. -Voted Ane because he froze. Sunny Chaos Ziel Lily -Voted Ane because he's ungeuine -Voted EOTH, bad reads Ane -Voted Lily for no reason? Guillo -Voted me because of LAMST. -Voted Nge thinks he's putting on a show. -Voted me bc he thinks I'm confirmed scum? EOTH Do we think all these votes were reasonable?

Ziel cant be pinged

Guillo

@genesischaos have you caught up yet? @ziel.16 why are you frozen?

@Ziel :D

There you go

charlie

Anyways lets change the topic : Vote Count Follower : Ngekop -Voted Gullio because RVS. -Voted Ane because he froze. Sunny Chaos Ziel Lily -Voted Ane because he's ungeuine -Voted EOTH, bad reads Ane -Voted Lily for no reason? Guillo -Voted me because of LAMST. -Voted Nge thinks he's putting on a show. -Voted me bc he thinks I'm confirmed scum? EOTH Do we think all these votes were reasonable?

That is an oversimplification

Well ues

12:20 p.m.

I'm not going to

12:20 p.m.

Write a whole essay

12:20 p.m.

But it's the basics

Ok

The thing with guillo is

12:20 p.m.

We clearly think in different ways

I have a funny thought

Ngekop

We clearly think in different ways

How so?

charlie

Anyways lets change the topic : Vote Count Follower : Ngekop -Voted Gullio because RVS. -Voted Ane because he froze. Sunny Chaos Ziel Lily -Voted Ane because he's ungeuine -Voted EOTH, bad reads Ane -Voted Lily for no reason? Guillo -Voted me because of LAMST. -Voted Nge thinks he's putting on a show. -Voted me bc he thinks I'm confirmed scum? EOTH Do we think all these votes were reasonable?

You missed to include yourself

Oh bc this is in my confessional

Ngekop

You missed to include yourself

This is dumb

So like

Funnily enough both of your votes have been following

Guillo

This is dumb

Im saying

12:22 p.m.

Her logs are probs among the most relevant in that sense

Guillo

How so?

The way we interpret things is different

12:22 p.m.

The way we approach them

12:23 p.m.

As in

12:23 p.m.

General stuff

Well mafia is a perspective game nods

that's why I hate when ppl r like u r wrong like

charlie

Well mafia is a perspective game nods

that's why I hate when ppl r like u r wrong like

Wrong

I don’t think it’s wrong on my end

Ngekop

The way we interpret things is different

Sometimes i do not say what im really interpreting.

12:23 p.m.

I work… different

Ngekop

Wrong

Guillo

Sometimes i do not say what im really interpreting.

I know

Sometimes im pocketing my scum read, make them think they have me pocketed and then i turn on them for example

Interesting

I find it very funny that my apparently terrible reads warranted two players to be very defensive and sparked a 10 hour long discussion...

12:25 p.m.

EasyOnTheHills

I find it very funny that my apparently terrible reads warranted two players to be very defensive and sparked a 10 hour long discussion...

well I can’t escape it

Sometimes i contradict myself on purpose to see who catches it and how they react

Guillo

Sometimes i contradict myself on purpose to see who catches it and how they react

Sane but not as often

12:26 p.m.

Same*

Oh u guys overplay

I mean if im doing it often some of those contradictions are genuine lol

orange juice or apple juice

Apple juice I hate oj

Guillo

I mean if im doing it often some of those contradictions are genuine lol

I do it like once per 3 games or smth lol

12:27 p.m.

So uh

charlie

Apple juice I hate oj

scum reading you for this

12:27 p.m.

Aren’t u already

nuh uh scum lean totally different

I really think u should start voting Sunny

12:28 p.m.

Like vote me idc but like u need to learn to start voting ppl

12:28 p.m.

Don’t be like nervey about voting ppl which I think u r rn

12:29 p.m.

Oh okay

Tough game

Not really make a town core and then POE out scum

Anyways I am more and more convinced it is Callahan + Lily as this goes on, their reactions to my "bad reads" are not townie, they are incredibly defensive, which makes no sense considering I hardly pushed the reads nor did I even push for a vote on either of them. Really starting to think I found the scumteam and they just started freaking out cause they got caught early on. Like you can't say my reads are bad, but then say you have to worry because I made them, if they were really that bad they would hold no merit and the rest of town would move on, maybe perhaps they weren't bad in the first place and that is why you want to try so hard to discredit them... Again I haven't even pushed Callahan or Lily to be voted, all I did was simply post my current thoughts on the game so far at that point, and this has turned into them devolving into a OMGUS onto me somehow

Hope we win it tho

charlie

Click to see attachment 🖼️

im sorry

charlie

Not really make a town core and then POE out scum

Hard in this game that’s the thing

guillo why did you switch to lily

EasyOnTheHills

Anyways I am more and more convinced it is Callahan + Lily as this goes on, their reactions to my "bad reads" are not townie, they are incredibly defensive, which makes no sense considering I hardly pushed the reads nor did I even push for a vote on either of them. Really starting to think I found the scumteam and they just started freaking out cause they got caught early on. Like you can't say my reads are bad, but then say you have to worry because I made them, if they were really that bad they would hold no merit and the rest of town would move on, maybe perhaps they weren't bad in the first place and that is why you want to try so hard to discredit them... Again I haven't even pushed Callahan or Lily to be voted, all I did was simply post my current thoughts on the game so far at that point, and this has turned into them devolving into a OMGUS onto me somehow

Feel bad if you're town cuz posts like this are textbook scum

12:32 p.m.

sad

EasyOnTheHills

Anyways I am more and more convinced it is Callahan + Lily as this goes on, their reactions to my "bad reads" are not townie, they are incredibly defensive, which makes no sense considering I hardly pushed the reads nor did I even push for a vote on either of them. Really starting to think I found the scumteam and they just started freaking out cause they got caught early on. Like you can't say my reads are bad, but then say you have to worry because I made them, if they were really that bad they would hold no merit and the rest of town would move on, maybe perhaps they weren't bad in the first place and that is why you want to try so hard to discredit them... Again I haven't even pushed Callahan or Lily to be voted, all I did was simply post my current thoughts on the game so far at that point, and this has turned into them devolving into a OMGUS onto me somehow

No offense but no team would both freak out towards being sr’d by someone with 5 posts

dont think ill ever get there

EasyOnTheHills

Anyways I am more and more convinced it is Callahan + Lily as this goes on, their reactions to my "bad reads" are not townie, they are incredibly defensive, which makes no sense considering I hardly pushed the reads nor did I even push for a vote on either of them. Really starting to think I found the scumteam and they just started freaking out cause they got caught early on. Like you can't say my reads are bad, but then say you have to worry because I made them, if they were really that bad they would hold no merit and the rest of town would move on, maybe perhaps they weren't bad in the first place and that is why you want to try so hard to discredit them... Again I haven't even pushed Callahan or Lily to be voted, all I did was simply post my current thoughts on the game so far at that point, and this has turned into them devolving into a OMGUS onto me somehow

I’m talking about them bc ppl keep talking about it, I can’t move on when I’m the main subject

SUNNY!!

guillo why did you switch to lily

Have you read? My content?

NO

12:33 p.m.

didn't mean caps

SUNNY!!

NO

Then?

12:33 p.m.

What are you waiting for?

I also find a lot of irony in that last night Lily said I should have pinged her to question her about things yet she always seems to be around when she gets brought up anyway...

Ngekop

No offense but no team would both freak out towards being sr’d by someone with 5 posts

yeah lol

where is it :(

Search me

EasyOnTheHills

I also find a lot of irony in that last night Lily said I should have pinged her to question her about things yet she always seems to be around when she gets brought up anyway...

i just checked the discord and saw your post

12:34 p.m.

weird fucking post right here

Convenient timing for like the 4th time now I see...

do u think im here 24/7

12:34 p.m.

and if so why that's weird

If he is not gonna answer i have an hypothesis

Guillo

Search me

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169653547835609188 this?

Im confused Sunny

12:35 p.m.

Why do you town lean me again?

U have to answer gullio

12:36 p.m.

U can’t avoid that

You made a readlist townleaning me based on my reaction to both lily and calla

12:37 p.m.

And now you are asking me why im voting her?????

I love mafia

I keep switching up on you, I don't understand what you're doing sometimes

i asked you because it just seemed weird that you voted her right after i did, even after having posted that a bit before? am i just missing something or

EasyOnTheHills

Convenient timing for like the 4th time now I see...

Do you think she is lurking/watching the thread?

Oh if you are worried that im sheeping you then dont, im not

Lol

I'm back

12:40 p.m.

After a mimimi

Hi back

.

Anemoia/Abyss

.

Catch up pls

I'll try

A good time to start would be uh

Anemoia/Abyss

I'll try

Basically I was throwing hands and there was a rap battle

When eoth gave his readlist

Okay yeah I swear to god if u

A... Rap battle?

Littlerally reply to me with questions

12:41 p.m.

Im going to be a little mad

EasyOnTheHills

current reads so far: Town: Ngekop, Guillo, Anemoia Leans town: Sunny Neutral: Ziel, genisischaos Potential scum: callahan, lilypetal

@Anemoia/Abyss here imo

charlie

Do you think she is lurking/watching the thread?

Yes

Ngekop

@Anemoia/Abyss here imo

Thank you!

EasyOnTheHills

Yes

Are you lurking/watching the thread

charlie

Im going to be a little mad

Dw I won't

charlie

Are you lurking/watching the thread

I was last night

Anemoia/Abyss

Dw I won't

Okay got u bc I explained myself a lot so nods

I was just confused on how a rap battle would happen

EasyOnTheHills

I was last night

If I was scum what do u think my intentions are right now?

Anemoia/Abyss

I was just confused on how a rap battle would happen

We should do a rap battle

12:43 p.m.

I have done it before in a mafia game

Lemme catch up on my other pings on other servers first tho

epic rap battles of history

Dude I was crazy 10/10

charlie

We should do a rap battle

Love watching them

12:43 p.m.

Spanish >>>>>>> english tho

Ngekop

Spanish >>>>>>> english tho

charlie

If I was scum what do u think my intentions are right now?

Idk you tell me...

English rap > spanish rap but spanish rap battles >>> english rap battles

How about you take the rap battle elsewhere

I was about to post

12:50 p.m.

A ss of my rap but okay

We dont need the fluff

EasyOnTheHills

Idk you tell me...

So you as someone who knows me as a player don’t know what I would be trying to do right now as scum?

12:51 p.m.

"We don't need the fluff"

Yes, we dont

pls stop running away eoth

Ok now I'll backread

12:53 p.m.

me running away

You can answer my questions

12:53 p.m.

Like I ask a lot and then u only answer certain ones

12:53 p.m.

Which makes me feel like ur avoiding me or u actually don’t believe ur reads

I no longer hard townread Sunny

And it’s annoying

crazyyy how come?

Sunny is always a town lean

12:54 p.m.

Never a town read

charlie

So you as someone who knows me as a player don’t know what I would be trying to do right now as scum?

this is just wifom, anything i say you will just say the opposite and use it as a way to continue to discredit me

EasyOnTheHills

this is just wifom, anything i say you will just say the opposite and use it as a way to continue to discredit me

No?

SUNNY!!

crazyyy how come?

Im so glad you asked. It’s the fact that you have lily and calla as scum leans but question me for voting Lily when you didnt question me about Calla, even though you had townleaned me for scum reading those exact two. I have a spicy thought. What if you and lily are scum together and Calla is the poor OMGUSY townie trapped in tour web of lies and deceit and you are bussing lily now?

I’m trying to speak with you because I can’t read u if I don’t interact with you, and I don’t wanna vote u out if you are actually town

Like do I think ur reads are poor 100% but if ur town then ur town and I can’t read and figure it out if u don’t interact with me

Guillo

Im so glad you asked. It’s the fact that you have lily and calla as scum leans but question me for voting Lily when you didnt question me about Calla, even though you had townleaned me for scum reading those exact two. I have a spicy thought. What if you and lily are scum together and Calla is the poor OMGUSY townie trapped in tour web of lies and deceit and you are bussing lily now?

what

SUNNY!!

what

Should i rewrite it?

Why do u think I ask people a lot of questions it’s literally basically I’m trying to read them, and when u don’t interact with me then I can’t read u properly

i already told you why i asked you why you voted lily

12:58 p.m.

i just found it weird how you voted straight after me, even after having read them before me

So your immediate thought was that i was pocketing you?

1:00 p.m.

Sunny, real time please

1:00 p.m.

Dont think

1:01 p.m.

Im starting to see Nge’s suspicion of being coached

maybe i thought calla was doing that to me too

Then why vote lily instead of calla, why not vote calla with me back then?

I rather u guys not but

1:02 p.m.

ududhudehuehuryrheuehehe7yee7ehd7

I’m always fighting for my life d1

my heart dosa this mean

Guillo

Then why vote lily instead of calla, why not vote calla with me back then?

You seem to need a lot of time for this Suspicious

i don't like that emoji please never send that again

i just trust lily less, felt like calla defended better also i hardly trust you more than calla so im not voting w/ you

charlie

Why do u think I ask people a lot of questions it’s literally basically I’m trying to read them, and when u don’t interact with me then I can’t read u properly

Or bc you want to pretend that :0

Ngekop

Or bc you want to pretend that :0

No like that’s actually how I figure out scum

But you town leaned me over both lily and calla

Why do u think I ask a ton of questions

Weeeeeeird

That don’t really seem to have meaning behind it, because I ignore a players actions and just focus on their interactions with me

Guillo

Weeeeeeird

nuh uh

charlie

No like that’s actually how I figure out scum

Oh i know

1:09 p.m.

But would also be what you’d do as maf if you are aiming to get tr’d

Town read me rn

Sunny is giving me scummy vibes

1:10 p.m.

Also Callahan trended up

i don't have to respond to you straight away Sadbaby

Just kidding Sunny! It’s not what my voices in my head really said

I’m cycling with the thoughts and doubt that EOTH could be town who just had terrible reads in my opinion and now doesn’t know what to do but to push because he’s like yolo why not, I got a reaction, but also he could be scum who was like man everybody town reads these ppl lemme just town read them as well but let me put some different reads town just to start something happening, because he has me and Lily connected but it doesn’t make sense? To me personally. So I CANT FIGURE IT OUT IF HE DOESNT CHITCHAT WITH ME

Guillo

Just kidding Sunny! It’s not what my voices in my head really said

charlie

I’m cycling with the thoughts and doubt that EOTH could be town who just had terrible reads in my opinion and now doesn’t know what to do but to push because he’s like yolo why not, I got a reaction, but also he could be scum who was like man everybody town reads these ppl lemme just town read them as well but let me put some different reads town just to start something happening, because he has me and Lily connected but it doesn’t make sense? To me personally. So I CANT FIGURE IT OUT IF HE DOESNT CHITCHAT WITH ME

Again

What are you gonna do about it?

1:13 p.m.

Sunny

Not everyone tr’d the people he tr’d

1:13 p.m.

I thought i made that clear before

Well they r like the common town reads

How

1:13 p.m.

Tf

1:13 p.m.

You and lily sr abyss

Sunny + Gullio is the most common town read

I was not tr’d by anyone

Idk who is not town reading them

charlie

Sunny + Gullio is the most common town read

I didnt tr guillo

Guillo

Sunny

i dunnooooooo grin

Back then

I said common

Neither did abyss

Oh well

1:14 p.m.

Maybe I remembering it wrong

Common = you and lily got iy

1:14 p.m.

it*

SUNNY!!

i dunnooooooo grin

Why are you trying to make it look like we are partners distancing

Nvm then but still

️

okay Sunny I didn’t realize u have a new bestie

no i swear pinkcrying

Everything we been through smh…

it's a misunderstanding

Sunny if I get voted out today, u must follow my reads, do u promise

maybe

Hey my reads be crazy sometimes

1:22 p.m.

Okay I’m out I feel like I spent WAYYYYY to much time on this game and it’s literally so gross and disgusting so I’m going to experience the real world

1:23 p.m.

But also I wanna apologize for something haha

1:24 p.m.

Yesterday i took my adhd medication and it’s was my second time playing mafia on medication and I literally thought I was on a whole different playing field so I’m humbled now my bad LOL SMILE

1:24 p.m.

That’s why I kept saying I was thinking differently and shit like I really thought I was a master genius

1:24 p.m.

We don’t talk about that anymore…

OH Hshhs HOPE YOU'RE DOING BETTER NOW

No no

1:25 p.m.

I was eating it up tho

1:25 p.m.

I was crazy

1:26 p.m.

I’m off the meds now

1:26 p.m.

I deadass thought I was a whole another playing field for some reason

1:27 p.m.

I think I even told nge he was jealous of me which I apologize LOL

Hello

1:28 p.m.

I've arrived

The one thing I’m kind of weirded out rn

1:28 p.m.

Hi ziel

I'm sorry I don't have my phone

1:28 p.m.

And I'm borrowing a laptop right nowww

1:28 p.m.

Wahhhhhhhh

If I expect more votes on me because like why wouldn’t mafia want a free mislynch

Ziel :D

Wahhhhhhhh

Have u read anything so far

Not yet

1:29 p.m.

I just arrived

1:29 p.m.

I will though

1:29 p.m.

I really will

You have a lot to read nods

1:29 p.m.

Come back with a read list + your thoughts

1:30 p.m.

Okay I’m official gone I will not speak in this chat until like maybe tomorrow bc like I feel yucky sorry

Okiee

charlie

You have a lot to read nods

Alreadyy???/

1:31 p.m.

TTOTT

YEAH YEAH

Back to this game again

1:39 p.m.

Imma read what I didn't skim through

Guillo

What questionable posts does Anemoia have? (He is not a newbie) Not wrong on Lily fading away after her entrance but she fades away as both town and scum, but townie thought if you havent met lily before. What does her progression on Callahan have anything to do with Anemoia though? Please can you point out the posts you felt were forced from Callahan?

Btw I am more of a newbie than you think) (less than 10 games)

EasyOnTheHills

me omw to find the mafia

This was kinda funny because my internet is lagging omieee ;-; The mafia will be found out!!! >:D

Guillo

You are sus to me now, do you care? And you clearly care about EOTH's read on you, you are freaking out all over the place for it. @lilypetal why are you not seeing this?

Agreed tbh, it's obvious

1:57 p.m.

Oops, I pinged

Guillo

Anyways, hi guys, im Mafia

That's impossible, because I don't see you in mafia-chat

1:58 p.m.

:>

1:58 p.m.

WAHAHAHHAHAHAAHA

1:58 p.m.

This is fun

SUNNY!!

everyone except me

1:59 p.m.

This being my first tournament... >:D

1:59 p.m.

I'm ready to lose

1:59 p.m.

Pfft--

Ngekop

N1 kills advance all the time

KILL ME

2:01 p.m.

:O

2:02 p.m.

Sorry for the pings everyone T^T don't mind me commenting here...

You can turn them off @Ziel :D

Guillo

I'd have everyone in my pocket by… tomorrow

I'm willing to be pocketed by wolf to be a N1 kill to advance Pfft--

2:05 p.m.

I forgot to put mentions off, I think--

Hi Ziel, nice to meet you

Ziel :D

you turned them off here...

Care to share your mafia background?

Ngekop

You can turn them off @Ziel :D

I know, I just forget sometimes

2:09 p.m.

Wahhhh

SUNNY!!

you turned them off here...

I did :3

Guillo

Hi Ziel, nice to meet you

Hello!!!!!!!!

2:09 p.m.

Nice to meet you, Mafia. XD

Guillo

Care to share your mafia background?

Mhmm, I am very very mafia, so please lynch me D5 maybe

2:10 p.m.

^v^

Ziel :D

Mhmm, I am very very mafia, so please lynch me D5 maybe

Not what i asked

Ahh

2:11 p.m.

I don't get it then

2:11 p.m.

XD

Your experience

Ah

2:11 p.m.

Oh

2:11 p.m.

I see

How long

WAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHH

Where have you played

I've been here for almost a year

2:11 p.m.

But I'm not so good

2:11 p.m.

XD

2:11 p.m.

I've played in a lot of games recently

2:11 p.m.

Such as losing in Sp40

2:12 p.m.

And winning in Ma59

2:12 p.m.

It was an easy win so--

2:12 p.m.

I don't even know what happened there

Ok

Plus

I wish you claimed you were a newbie

I am a newbie

2:13 p.m.

:&

But given you are experienced, claiming mafia shouldnt be nothing new to you

I am not experienced though

2:13 p.m.

:^

2:14 p.m.

What is wrong with claiming mafia omie

2:14 p.m.

XD

You are doing it too much

Is that really much of a thing?

2:14 p.m.

Oh

2:14 p.m.

I am?

2:14 p.m.

Pfft--

Yeh

2:15 p.m.

Why?

I'll stop T^T

2:15 p.m.

I gotta learn how to do that better

2:15 p.m.

XD

2:15 p.m.

I didn't know this tournament had such a big prize ✨

Kinda townlean you for it though

I need it

Ziel :D

I need it

So do i

Ziel :D

And winning in Ma59

Dont forget sp39

2:16 p.m.

I worked hard on that one for it to be forgotten that easily

Ngekop

Dont forget sp39

I was looking for the nameeee

2:16 p.m.

Nge carried me hard

2:16 p.m.

I mentioned it

Nge you know her?

✨

2:16 p.m.

I am indebted to Nge all the way in that game

Nge even carried me too

Guillo

Nge you know her?

Yes

Guillo

Nge you know her?

I will reply for Nge, Yes

2:17 p.m.

Oh

2:17 p.m.

See

Lol

Guillo

Nge even carried me too

Nge carry is amazing

2:17 p.m.

✨

Ngekop

Yes

Is she pron to wifom as mafia?

Ziel :D

Nge carry is amazing

Is?

Wifom is reverse psych, right?

Yah

Guillo

Is?

Yeah?

2:18 p.m.

'Nge-carry'

2:18 p.m.

as a noun

Oh

Because Nge is amazingggggggg

2:18 p.m.

We won

2:18 p.m.

Like

2:18 p.m.

As in

2:18 p.m.

Nge only has one record of losing as Mafia

2:19 p.m.

I'm straying away from backreading

2:19 p.m.

XD

Yah he is outstanding

That's right

2:19 p.m.

I should make a Nge-stan corner out here somewhere

I selected him to win the tourney in the poll

I'll make a petition someday

2:19 p.m.

:D

2:20 p.m.

OHH

2:20 p.m.

There's a poll?

Yah

I hope Nge is at the least town

There was i think

2:20 p.m.

No more

I think worst case here is that me and Nge aren't on the same side

Guillo

Is she pron to wifom as mafia?

Dude i misread this

2:20 p.m.

I treat Nge like an idol, personally

Guillo

Is she pron to wifom as mafia?

Uh not sure

2:21 p.m.

The closest i was to ever being TvT with her was when she was amnesiac and converted to town last day of the game

Ziel :D

Because Nge is amazingggggggg

<3

So you dont know if she is capable of wofomjng the crap out of is out of nowhere as scum

Let’s keep ziel alive until F3

Ngekop

<3

<3<3<3

Of us

Ziel :D

Nge only has one record of losing as Mafia

Tbf i have one L as maf AND one as coven

I overlooked that post

2:23 p.m.

What does that mean--

Ziel :D

I should make a Nge-stan corner out here somewhere

Omg

Guillo

I selected him to win the tourney in the poll

Oop

2:23 p.m.

Ok you probs shouldnt have

Whyyyyyyyy

I have myself in the final but i’ll be really busy those days

Oh well

I sincerely do

And i assume the final table will be like

2:23 p.m.

Elite

Owp

2:23 p.m.

Wahhhhh

2:24 p.m.

I don't even have a chance of winning

2:24 p.m.

Pfft

Ngekop

Tbf i have one L as maf AND one as coven

Still

2:24 p.m.

:>

Ziel :D

I treat Nge like an idol, personally

Everyone has equal chance

Guillo

So you dont know if she is capable of wofomjng the crap out of is out of nowhere as scum

I mean she def is capable

Ngekop

Omg

I'll be the #1 top fan ✨

Ngekop

:2

2:25 p.m.

:3

Omg i cant

2:25 p.m.

Ziel

2:25 p.m.

Jfkebfodjsbd

Ngekop

I mean she def is capable

What does that mean

2:25 p.m.

Wahhhhhhhh

Ziel :D

What does that mean

That you could do it as maf

2:25 p.m.

The wifom thingy

Nge, you got me in your pocketttt

2:25 p.m.

Wifom

2:25 p.m.

As in

I? But i havent done

2:25 p.m.

Anything that you’ve seen

2:26 p.m.

Game related yet

Can you state a situation??

Other than saying you’re so nice

Well

2:26 p.m.

I'll trust we're aligned until proven otherwiseeeee

2:26 p.m.

Because

I'm gonna rely on you

:>

Ngekop

I mean she def is capable

Ah well i guess no townlean for her for showing lack of care about perception from others as a newbie

2:28 p.m.

Maybe townlean for doing it as slank though

lilypetal

spooky

Don't scum try to make out that they don't care about being voted?

Imma just say this

2:29 p.m.

@Mafia if you kill me tonight please at least vote me in the top3 at the end of the game

charlie

Anyways lets change the topic : Vote Count Follower : Ngekop -Voted Gullio because RVS. -Voted Ane because he froze. Sunny Chaos Ziel Lily -Voted Ane because he's ungeuine -Voted EOTH, bad reads Ane -Voted Lily for no reason? Guillo -Voted me because of LAMST. -Voted Nge thinks he's putting on a show. -Voted me bc he thinks I'm confirmed scum? EOTH Do we think all these votes were reasonable?

Lily vote was because I wanted to test out the bot

Like it’d the least you can do frfr

2:29 p.m.

it’s*

What is this about me making a wifom T^T

Btw all of the msgs you send, I won't see them because I'm going along with reading, and posting my responses for things that I can actually think to respond about

Anemoia/Abyss

Btw all of the msgs you send, I won't see them because I'm going along with reading, and posting my responses for things that I can actually think to respond about

Gotcha!

2:31 p.m.

They won't see my reply

2:31 p.m.

Pfft--

Ziel wanna be like my online little sister or smth

Ngekop

Ziel wanna be like my online little sister or smth

SURE

2:31 p.m.

I've always wanted to be someone's little sis

W

2:32 p.m.

I'm the first of my generation in my famile

2:32 p.m.

So

2:32 p.m.

;-;

Ziel :D

I'm the first of my generation in my famile

And im the last lol

Oh

2:32 p.m.

WAHHAHAHHAAHHA

2:33 p.m.

Do I call you onii-chan?

2:33 p.m.

:3

Ngekop

Dancing emojis are so Nitro-ish

2:33 p.m.

Wahh

Ok but

2:33 p.m.

This nitro i have is from a friend

2:33 p.m.

And that’s my favorite emote

2:33 p.m.

Hi guillo

Whom did you vote for Nge, it shows numbers to me

Genesischaos

Ok

I do see it from you mostlyyy

Yes bc

:W dancing penguin:

I brought it here

2:34 p.m.

Then lune stole it

2:34 p.m.

Bc lune liked it so much as well

Have you watched Happy Feet?

2:34 p.m.

Oww

Yes

2:34 p.m.

Not in a while tho

2:35 p.m.

I dont remember most of that movie

I would've also used it already if I had Nitro XD

Sane

2:35 p.m.

Same

2:35 p.m.

I just remembered it

2:35 p.m.

Plus

2:35 p.m.

There's the Penguins of Madagascar

2:35 p.m.

This is so out of topic omie

2:36 p.m.

Oh noooooooooo

Yah

I pressed back to present on my backreading tab T^T

Enough with the fluff

2:36 p.m.

How much have you read?

Up to you saying Calla is scum

2:37 p.m.

Why?

Ziel Callahan asked for a read list If you managed to read that far up, surely you have something

Ziel :D

There's the Penguins of Madagascar

Yeah i HAVE watched that

How was Calla scum

Also the series

2:37 p.m.

I watched p much all of the episodes

Not yet though

Ziel :D

Why?

Cause i want reads and you are kinda behind

I was just scanning

2:37 p.m.

I iso for read list

2:37 p.m.

Ah--

SUNNY!!

Ziel Callahan asked for a read list If you managed to read that far up, surely you have something

Wat

Ngekop

Yeah i HAVE watched that

I remember the movie about Private joining

2:38 p.m.

Wahhh

Ngekop

Wat

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169689781077299210

Okay

2:38 p.m.

I'll come back

2:38 p.m.

In a while

Just keep reading

I gotta

2:38 p.m.

Make reads

Catch up

SUNNY!!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169689781077299210

Ok but

2:39 p.m.

How do expect her to have a list

2:39 p.m.

She is reading back

2:39 p.m.

She cant do one until she catches up

Then come and post your reads or Suspicious

Ngekop

How do expect her to have a list

THANK YOU ✨

Ngekop

She cant do one until she catches up

Yes i want her to catch up before making reads

2:39 p.m.

That is the point

Guillo

Yes i want her to catch up before making reads

Ik

2:40 p.m.

Im telling sunny

Ok

Ngekop

Ok but

i don't expect her to have a full long read list but maybe just take the time to get something instead of talking about other stuff and ignoring it

I got it

2:45 p.m.

So

2:45 p.m.

Let me

2:45 p.m.

Do so in peace

2:45 p.m.

;-;

okaaaay

@genesischaos hi

Guillo

Enough with the fluff

I like this

2:50 p.m.

And I'm finished mostly skimming

2:50 p.m.

And uhhh-

2:50 p.m.

Yeah

@Anemoia/Abyss wdyt about all the argument around eoth’s list

2:53 p.m.

Me/guillo/eoth/calla/lily all had a fair amount of content regarding that thing

Ngekop

@Anemoia/Abyss wdyt about all the argument around eoth’s list

That was a lot of info to process

2:56 p.m.

But

2:56 p.m.

I thought that Calla and Lily were overreacting a little bit

Do you think they could be partnered?

2:57 p.m.

What do you think about eoth’s list explaining the reads and my approach to it as well as guillo’s

2:58 p.m.

I get it’s a lot to process so no rushing dw

2:58 p.m.

Just whenever you have time pls answer those

Yeah uhhhh

2:59 p.m.

Man that's a lot of info to look back on-

It def is

3:00 p.m.

Which is why

Ngekop

What do you think about eoth’s list explaining the reads and my approach to it as well as guillo’s

From what I've seen, I like how Gullio was pretty aggressive with it, idk his scum range but I like how direct and aggressive he was with thay

No rushing

3:00 p.m.

But having your takes on those could help

All based off of memory

Ngekop

But having your takes on those could help

Cool

Anemoia/Abyss

From what I've seen, I like how Gullio was pretty aggressive with it, idk his scum range but I like how direct and aggressive he was with thay

Cool

3:01 p.m.

So guillo and i will probs be the first two night kills atp

3:02 p.m.

@Guillo we have to lynch both mafias b2b and/or find another townie

3:05 p.m.

K so

3:05 p.m.

We dont vote calla or guillo today imo

3:05 p.m.

Not saying i tr calla

3:05 p.m.

I just dont want her out today

3:05 p.m.

I also dont really sr her

3:05 p.m.

So ye

3:05 p.m.

@EasyOnTheHills can you pls elaborate on where did calla feel forced to you

Ngekop

We dont vote calla or guillo today imo

I agree

I think you still havent

3:06 p.m.

And like

3:06 p.m.

You were asked like 4 times

Anemoia/Abyss

I agree

Why do you agree on calla

I just want to interact with Calla more to get a better understanding

Huh

3:07 p.m.

Wouldnt that apply to people like ziel/genesis/eoth too tho

Yes

3:08 p.m.

It applies to everyone,but some I need to interact with more while others I think I have a grasp on

3:08 p.m.

You, Nge, I don't have a firm grasp on

3:09 p.m.

You'll always be towny, since it's just y'know... You. So I want to have an in-depth conversation with you to see if you're towny or scummy to me or not

Why are you trying to act like me rn lol?

I'm not

You are literally just parroted what I said about eoth

Well- not trying to

3:10 p.m.

Shush, respectfully

I?

I haven't recalled you saying that, so I didn't copy you consciously

3:11 p.m.

Ever*

You obviously are?

3:11 p.m.

Because I know DAMN well u have no idea how to read people through people interacting with you

3:12 p.m.

Dude stop copying me like what

3:12 p.m.

Read the game how you read the game not how other ppl read the game

I. Am. Not. Copying. You

3:14 p.m.

I don't even like committing plagiarism

You litterally are

3:14 p.m.

It’s yucky asf

charlie

Because I know DAMN well u have no idea how to read people through people interacting with you

OMG

3:14 p.m.

Whoops

3:15 p.m.

Wrong thing

3:15 p.m.

Lemme restart that

3:15 p.m.

Ahem

charlie

You litterally are

OMG

3:15 p.m.

I am not even purposely copying you

3:15 p.m.

How would you even know what I'm thinking of right now?

Because you are parroting what I spoke about

3:16 p.m.

On how I read people

3:16 p.m.

You don’t read people that way

3:16 p.m.

Bc u don’t know how too??

3:16 p.m.

You never developed that ability yet

3:16 p.m.

As a player

3:16 p.m.

You wouldn’t even know what to look for?

3:16 p.m.

I know Nge did not ever teach you how to read people like that

3:17 p.m.

And I know you couldn’t possibly developed it randomly

3:17 p.m.

You are either bullshitting right now or your parroting

3:18 p.m.

The reason how read people like that because I have a naturally scummy playstyle, you have no idea what your playstyle is so you can’t possibly have that ability to read people like that

charlie

You never developed that ability yet

How can I develop skills without trying them?

Maybe you need to ask how can I read people through that then just stating you can?

charlie

Because you are parroting what I spoke about

Why are you so hyper focused on that I'm trying to parrot you when I DIDN'T

You can’t develop a skill if you do not know how to do it

3:21 p.m.

Bc it find it gross when ppl try to copy me

3:21 p.m.

And I’m unsure why u r feeling the need to do it

3:21 p.m.

Why u are lying about a skill u don’t possess

charlie

Maybe you need to ask how can I read people through that then just stating you can?

I never said I can, you're putting words into my mouth, I said I "Want" to, I want to try to do it, duh duh doi

Because obviously u just admitted u don’t have it so that’s why u r trying

charlie

Because obviously u just admitted u don’t have it so that’s why u r trying

Yeah

Lol

3:22 p.m.

This conversation

How could you possible read me through that if you don’t have that skill

charlie

You can’t develop a skill if you do not know how to do it

You can't develop a skill if you don't ever do it

WELL ASK HOW

3:22 p.m.

BC U DONT KNOW HOW

Istg this is making me angry-

SO U WONT BE HELPING TOWN

charlie

WELL ASK HOW

@how answer pls

charlie

WELL ASK HOW

SHUSH

3:23 p.m.

I'LL TRY IF I WAN

U can’t help town if you don’t know how to use that skill

3:23 p.m.

Ask somebody how to do it

Ngekop

@how answer pls

XD

charlie

Ask somebody how to do it

FINE

THANK U

@charlie how do I do it?

3:23 p.m.

Teach me.

Anemoia/Abyss

@charlie how do I do it?

Okay

Right now.

LOL WHAT IS THIS CONVO

3:23 p.m.

okay

(2)

How would you describe your plaustylev

If it makes you happy

Playstyle

3:24 p.m.

As town

charlie

The reason how read people like that because I have a naturally scummy playstyle, you have no idea what your playstyle is so you can’t possibly have that ability to read people like that

Ok well you're right I don't know my playstyle... That much

charlie

As town

Tbh I usually just watch the others and try to see if there's anything that's towny about it

3:25 p.m.

(like what they say)

That’s how your scum reading/town reading, I’m talking about how you play

Or scummy

charlie

That’s how your scum reading/town reading, I’m talking about how you play

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

What is your playstyle as town

3:26 p.m.

What is your approach

3:26 p.m.

How do you view the game

Example please?

How do you handle things

:>

charlie

How do you handle things

Oh uh

Like I know for the fact I change how I play each game to avoid pmeta which makes me have a more natural scummy playstyle due to people always being on edge around me

3:26 p.m.

They always are second guessing my actions

I usually just uhh

Not really knowing if I’m being genuine or not

Well what I usually do as town is uhm

3:27 p.m.

GREAT NOW I DON'T KNOW

3:27 p.m.

Idek how I play as scum

charlie

Not really knowing if I’m being genuine or not

Bc you many times are not

Bro this is how I get my first existential crisis

In fact you really RARELY are completely genuine

Ngekop

Bc you many times are not

3:28 p.m.

U got me

Anemoia/Abyss

Bro this is how I get my first existential crisis

Well it’s a higher skill I think so? Maybe idk

3:28 p.m.

New players don’t usually read like that

3:28 p.m.

They read what people are saying not how other interact with them

3:28 p.m.

Others

Anemoia/Abyss

Well what I usually do as town is uhm

Are u town this game or not

Yes

Then what r u doing this game

.

3:30 p.m.

I'm kind of just viewing the game and uh, how do I put this on words

3:30 p.m.

Idk how to describe it tbh

3:31 p.m.

It's like trying to view in from the outside almost? Like uh, I go down and comment on things when I look at messages some of the time

Are your comments progressing the game

3:32 p.m.

Are you forming new ideas or adding onto existing ideas

Since this conversation stopped a bit @Guillo can we agree these arent two citizens talking

Uhhhhh

literally how

Man these are some difficult questions for me- like actually difficult

Dude how is are diffcult

IDK

So basically ur admitting u done nothing townie so far

charlie

literally how

Bc it’s so fake

3:38 p.m.

It just

3:38 p.m.

Like no

They're just difficult to answer

Ngekop

Bc it’s so fake

It’s very real on my end

Me too

It’s not pure like

3:38 p.m.

It can have mason

Y'know what? Imma think about it and take a shower because I feel yucky

Or mafia

3:38 p.m.

But

Explain then nge

I’ll be shocked

Explain with ur big brain

If it ends up being 2 cits

charlie

Explain with ur big brain

My brain is

3:38 p.m.

Small af

Can we quit it with the mason talk

Also i cant explain it? But that conversation def was werid

Like omfg

Weird

charlie

Can we quit it with the mason talk

No

It’s like ur litterally trying to help mafia narrowing down masons

No it isnt

Yes it is

They cant know my intent behind what i say

3:39 p.m.

I can be telling the truth

3:39 p.m.

I can be mason wifoming

Ngekop

Also i cant explain it? But that conversation def was werid

Oh okay so it’s basically baseless cool

3:40 p.m.

Love that

3:40 p.m.

We love when ppl yap but can’t explain themselves

I can be cit throwing that shade unto someone who i DONT believe is mason

charlie

We love when ppl yap but can’t explain themselves

??

3:40 p.m.

Chill

3:40 p.m.

Lol

Sorry it’s just like

3:40 p.m.

I don’t understand

Im allowed

How it’s fake

To have feelings

3:40 p.m.

And share them

And then u can’t explain it

3:40 p.m.

So it’s like

3:40 p.m.

What am I suppose to do

charlie

How it’s fake

Not fake but not 100% legit genuine

3:40 p.m.

Like

3:40 p.m.

Smth’s off

It’s genuine on my side

3:41 p.m.

When he stole

Smth feels off

My fuckinh

3:41 p.m.

Read style

3:41 p.m.

And then tried to play it off like he didn’t

Anyways i’ll stop there

And then was like

3:41 p.m.

Idk how to read

Since i dont sr either of you

But u have to admit nge

3:41 p.m.

What was he doing

Idk and idrc

And then he was like oh idk how I play as town

That’s another thing

Like aren’t u town this game

You were arguing over styles

U care enough to say something

Ngekop

Since this conversation stopped a bit @Guillo can we agree these arent two citizens talking

Can I agree with you?

Ofc you can

Ziel u have no idea what has been happening at all

3:42 p.m.

And u still do not have a read list

3:42 p.m.

Or any actually comments

3:42 p.m.

That u haven’t been sheeping

3:42 p.m.

Not saying ur scum but u need to pick it up

I am

3:44 p.m.

Making one

Anyways it’s pretty obvious who scum is

I just visited because I saw the unread count

Ziel :D

Making one

Okay thank u nods

@genesischaos

3:45 p.m.

Exist again pls

3:45 p.m.

;-;

Can’t we just wait for a sub

I’d rather have him talk instead of waiting 40 hours to get a sub

Has he even spoke

Yes

3:46 p.m.

He has

What has he said

He said like hi

3:46 p.m.

Pinged me

3:46 p.m.

And said he wondered if i remembered him

Oh

And dipped again

Damn okay that gives me nothing

5 posts

3:46 p.m.

Oof

Exactly

He said he';; skim

3:47 p.m.

Than POof

But that’s enough for him to potentially don’t get replaced until mid-d2

*he'll

So

Do we have

Not good for me tbh

Post things

True

30 game related posts

Yes

3:48 p.m.

100%

Ow

Oh they just get a prod

3:48 p.m.

Okay here’s my thing I think I metioned this before but like idk

3:48 p.m.

Where is my votes

3:48 p.m.

Like I feel like I should be pushed by scum rn

3:48 p.m.

But I had one vote?

3:49 p.m.

And the Ane if he’s town I don’t think he is he only had 2 votes

3:49 p.m.

Like what is happening

Spoiler: Calla, you're in my town reads :'3

AYYYY

As a town

thank u

Yes you are

3:49 p.m.

:D

valid read

It’s called majority existing d1 and newbies not wanting to vote when most people aren’t

Can I raise a question?

Don’t we only have 3 newbies

T^T

Ziel wasn’t here

Where's the vote chat

Ane knows how to vote

3:50 p.m.

Oh

3:50 p.m.

Um

3:50 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969463442444408/1169723639764103219

3:50 p.m.

Here

charlie

Ane knows how to vote

But doesnt want to

Thank you

Abyss never votes early d1

I couldn't see it anywhere ;-;

Ngekop

But doesnt want to

Same with Sunny but sunny doesn’t vote out of nerves

Regardless of his alignment

Now they r

3:51 p.m.

I don’t know I just

3:51 p.m.

Feel like there should be more votes

Well abyss doesnt vote

3:51 p.m.

Ziel just came in

3:51 p.m.

Genesis hasnt done a thing

3:51 p.m.

@EasyOnTheHills shouldnt you be voting someone

3:52 p.m.

You sr lily and calla

3:52 p.m.

Why not voting in there yet

3:52 p.m.

He secretly town reads me

I think the quality in this game is p good

starts breakdancing so good that it makes everyone tr me

I’d be really surprised if less than 5 people from this table advance

Idk

Idt you/me/guillo/lily wouldnt advance like ever to jury vote

Jury vote?

Sunny/abyss are trying for good

charlie

Jury vote?

Ye

I thought the hosts were just judging

It’s 3 from each game + jury vote overall

Am I voting for ppl in this game

Jury is the 3 hosts lmao

3:57 p.m.

Yes

OHHH

3:57 p.m.

okay

3:57 p.m.

Icic

3:57 p.m.

Sunny u about to advance fr

And jury will vote 9 more players

Ngekop

Sunny/abyss are trying for good

what does that mean

Between all the 6 games

3:57 p.m.

In any way they want to tbh

3:58 p.m.

Like they can pick the 9 players in a game if they consider those 9 all played outstandingly and better than the rest in other games

SUNNY!!

what does that mean

Putting effort in

3:58 p.m.

And not playing badly

3:58 p.m.

Taking this seriously

Ngekop

Abyss never votes early d1

Yessir

Regardless of what you are

Ngekop

Like they can pick the 9 players in a game if they consider those 9 all played outstandingly and better than the rest in other games

Wait

Ngekop

Sunny/abyss are trying for good

For good?

We are competing with the two other games happening rn

Oh now I get iy

Ngekop

Regardless of what you are

Yessir

4:00 p.m.

If I vote early there's something wrong with me

charlie

We are competing with the two other games happening rn

5*

On D1

It’s all the games

4:00 p.m.

Lol

Oh shit I AM not advancing

4:01 p.m.

Wow

3 will advance per game (3x6 = 18 total)

Okay

4:01 p.m.

LOL

4:01 p.m.

Then the jury will pick

4:01 p.m.

9 more

4:01 p.m.

Between the 36 remaining

charlie

Oh shit I AM not advancing

I dont see you ever not advancing ngl

Anemoia/Abyss

If I vote early there's something wrong with me

U did vote Lily Ik it was a bot check or whatever but haha SMILE

Ngekop

I dont see you ever not advancing ngl

My reads can be totally wrong this game

So?

I think u need correct reads that’s how my last tour went

You have contributed a lot to generate a fair amount of content

4:02 p.m.

That’s imo more helpful than what will happen in most of the other games

Dude where is the guide line on what they r grading for

charlie

U did vote Lily Ik it was a bot check or whatever but haha SMILE

Nooooo! (L me)

4:03 p.m.

I just wanted to see bot, that doesn't count. I don't remember it counting, therefore it doesn't rxist

oh hold up the other 3 games are happening now too? or did i read that wrong

Yeah

Yep

Just our group tho furst

4:04 p.m.

4,5,6 goes after us three

OH alright gotchu

Ngekop

Bc i consider myself a good player

WWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

charlie

Are your comments progressing the game

I just comment on things and so far idt they have been progressing the game, so no. I'm adding on and forming new ideas(mostly adding on)

4:06 p.m.

Just to answer your question

Do you think you are playing like a town would

Idk

4:06 p.m.

Maybe?

4:07 p.m.

That's a little vague as there can be many kinds of things a town can do

Now there is basics to every single town game play

4:07 p.m.

The foundations

The foundations.

Ngekop

@Ziel :D is here too!

*All Might vibez

Hello people

4:26 p.m.

I am sorry to announce that my reads

4:27 p.m.

Aren't done yet

4:27 p.m.

T^T

4:27 p.m.

I just came here to say that

4:27 p.m.

XD

4:27 p.m.

It's 4:30 AM but... this is more important >:3

HELLO

4:50 p.m.

Can I ping all players here?

4:50 p.m.

Omie

4:53 p.m.

Hello???

4:53 p.m.

@4th Anniversary Finalist

4:53 p.m.

Are you ready for me?

4:53 p.m.

XD

4:54 p.m.

I can't say that it's much

4:54 p.m.

But I acquired this much after

4:54 p.m.

Sooooooooooooooooooo loooooooooonnnnnggggggggg

4:54 p.m.

I'll fiiiiiinallly sleep soon

4:54 p.m.

Wahhhhhhhhh

4:54 p.m.

So take me

4:54 p.m.

## PLAYERS:

4:55 p.m.

Ngekop (Hard Town Lean)
- The N1 kill claims feels genuine T^T... (please no! ;-;.)
- The dad jokes! Hihihh
- I'm glad about saying that I feel Nge's towniness so much that it's 75% impossible for him to be scum. Ahhhhh! That's why I'll rely on him!

4:55 p.m.

SUNNY (Town Lean)
- Being the first wolf game seems unlikely-ly unlikely,,,? XD.
- Wahhhhh! That push on Nge feels sincerely town! Although I don't think Nge really is Wolf. As I said, 75% impossibleeee!! Sunny Town!

4:55 p.m.

genesischaos (IA, Null Scum)
- Busy, maybe? Negatively busy. Not much to go on. ;-;. They leave a bad impression.

4:55 p.m.

Callahan (Town Lean)
- Calla is giving me the wolfy town vibes. I think that counts as town...
- Calla pushing for reads seem like normal to me. She was town in those games, and wow this is kind of meta?
- (More here later on.,,)

4:55 p.m.

Ziel :D
- Hello! :3. Feel free to insert text here. Thank you!

4:56 p.m.

lilypetal (Town Lean)
- The Guillo meta post is likely towny. That's it. I can't say anything more ;-;.

4:56 p.m.

Anemoia[>>>Abyss] (Wolf Lean)
- The freezing (yet no, I don't have much to say about that) but most especially that between Calla which does not at all make up a conversation between two town-aligned players. In which Ane seems the wolfier.

4:56 p.m.

Guillo (Null)
- I am swayed by the metas concerning the 'nice wolfy' Guillo act, but I don't believe it's this way, ahh...?
- The pushing done by Guillo... I don't know what to feel about that...
- I need to read more into Guillo. More on maybe later on...

4:56 p.m.

EasyOnTheHills (Wolf Lean)
- Uhh... I don't believe EOTH's reads are accurate... I don't think their reads count as wolfy,,,
- Their reads make sense. I don't think 100% accurate, but makes sense... I need to read onto it later on.
- That reaction to their (Calla and Lily's) reactions was not towny. In my opinion, it's normal they'd be defensive if they have the right to defend themselves (both are my town reads as well)... 78% wolfy, 22% towny.

4:56 p.m.

So my town to scum is Ngekop (✨), Calla, Sunny, Lily, Guillo, genesischaos, EasyOnTheHills/Ane

4:56 p.m.

THAT'S ALL

4:56 p.m.

GOOD NIGHT PEOPLE

4:56 p.m.

Is it even night XD

4:56 p.m.

/j

I almost forgot to vote

5:07 p.m.

Oh no

5:07 p.m.

#4th-qual-1-vote

5:11 p.m.

No one's here T^T

Ziel :D

@4th Anniversary Finalist

Why

Additional: https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169423047829246055 Wouldn't that likely imply you're wolf...? You're not though!!

Ngekop

Why

My reads are here

5:12 p.m.

If

5:12 p.m.

Y'all want it

Ok uh

5:14 p.m.

Ziel would definitely not bus d1

5:14 p.m.

Unless partner asks for it

5:14 p.m.

Which abyss wouldnt ever do

5:15 p.m.

Im starting to kinda agree on eoth/abyss but

5:15 p.m.

Ugh

5:15 p.m.

@genesischaos pls make yourself obv town or scumtell tyvm

5:18 p.m.

@SUNNY!! what were you going to say?

Those are very surface level reads, with no concrete path how you got there Ziel

Indeed

I also believe you just perspective slipped my friend

Me?

Ziel

Oh

5:23 p.m.

How

EasyOnTheHills (Wolf Lean)
- Uhh... I don't believe EOTH's reads are accurate... I don't think their reads count as wolfy,,,
- Their reads make sense. I don't think 100% accurate, but makes sense... I need to read onto it later on.
- That reaction to their (Calla and Lily's) reactions was not towny. In my opinion, it's normal they'd be defensive if they have the right to defend themselves (both are my town reads as well)... 78% wolfy, 22% towny.

5:25 p.m.

To judge based on accuracy you gotta know info to base it on

Ngekop

@SUNNY!! what were you going to say?

i wadnt gonna say anything wgat

I saw you typing iirc

5:27 p.m.

Rip

sorry i keep misspelling half asleep

Oh well

5:27 p.m.

I don't know

5:27 p.m.

Because that's just how I make reads?

5:27 p.m.

:^

I think we should make genesis do something

5:27 p.m.

So im staying here hoping someone joins

Also

5:27 p.m.

I really am about to sleep

5:27 p.m.

Just checked in for a while

Guillo

To judge based on accuracy you gotta know info to base it on

I see ;-;

I also believe Ziel is hard white knight Nge based on … meta

Guillo

I also believe Ziel is hard white knight Nge based on … meta

What does this mean

I'll add them tomorrow

5:28 p.m.

I guess

Not sure what to think about it

I wonder how I'm able to last until now T^T

Ngekop

What does this mean

Means there is association between you to or she is trying to make you look associated

I don't know what that means...

5:29 p.m.

Byee

5:29 p.m.

POof

We’re partners or you’re trying to make it look like it

Means you could be mafia together or you are trying to make look that way

5:30 p.m.

Yah

5:31 p.m.

And im wondering why you have not questioned the massive pocket Nge

Ngekop

We’re partners or you’re trying to make it look like it

I think we're basically not yet partners and I was not trying to make Nge look associated with me

5:31 p.m.

I'm really leaving nowww

5:31 p.m.

Wahhhhhhhhh

5:31 p.m.

I won't reply >:D

Not yet partners?????

Guillo

And im wondering why you have not questioned the massive pocket Nge

Bc she is cute

5:32 p.m.

Also like idm it

Uhuh

Okay last Because we haven't been working together so much yet?

Getting pocketed usually gets you to stay alive

Ngekop

Bc she is cute

Wahhhhhh

5:32 p.m.

You're amazing Ngeeee

And rn im null on her

Ngekop

Getting pocketed usually gets you to stay alive

@lilypetal

Ngekop

And rn im null on her

Fair

5:32 p.m.

Wow

5:33 p.m.

The sun is rising

5:33 p.m.

I never get to see the sunrise

5:33 p.m.

sfhkbnisutgkjhneo

5:33 p.m.

I should leave...

Poor logic right there, means you are in survival mode … the plot thickens…

Ziel :D

Ngekop (Hard Town Lean)
- The N1 kill claims feels genuine T^T... (please no! ;-;.)
- The dad jokes! Hihihh
- I'm glad about saying that I feel Nge's towniness so much that it's 75% impossible for him to be scum. Ahhhhh! That's why I'll rely on him!

I'm not going to rely on this

5:33 p.m.

Also hi

Guillo

Poor logic right there, means you are in survival mode … the plot thickens…

Not true

Wow

5:33 p.m.

I just got dismissed

But i do prefer surviving

5:34 p.m.

And i dont sr that from ziel even if i dont tr it either

My 2-3 estimated hours of sleep are hurt

5:34 p.m.

Nevermind

5:34 p.m.

Bye

So i wont trade me surviving for questioning/pressuring someone i dont have a read on

5:35 p.m.

That said you’re obv right that her reasons for the tr on me which is her admittedly hardest tl

5:35 p.m.

Are uh

5:35 p.m.

Bad to say the least

Ziel :D

I just got dismissed

You talking about me?

She talked about her being ignored

5:36 p.m.

Im just ignoring her bc she needs to go to sleep

Icic

5:37 p.m.

Ouch the vote count

Ziel :D

EasyOnTheHills (Wolf Lean)
- Uhh... I don't believe EOTH's reads are accurate... I don't think their reads count as wolfy,,,
- Their reads make sense. I don't think 100% accurate, but makes sense... I need to read onto it later on.
- That reaction to their (Calla and Lily's) reactions was not towny. In my opinion, it's normal they'd be defensive if they have the right to defend themselves (both are my town reads as well)... 78% wolfy, 22% towny.

I'm a bit confused on why you voted Ane over EOTH, when EOTH's read seems to be a bit more in depth?

Also why does Gullio even tr me even though there's suspicious stuff piled on me?

Guillo

I also believe Ziel is hard white knight Nge based on … meta

Could you explain white knight to me like what does that mean in mafia terms

charlie

I'm a bit confused on why you voted Ane over EOTH, when EOTH's read seems to be a bit more in depth?

I mean you sr me so I mean-

Yeah, but my reason is very different then hers

charlie

Could you explain white knight to me like what does that mean in mafia terms

I think it's like getting the other two like you or smth

5:48 p.m.

Too*

5:48 p.m.

To*

Pocketing?

charlie

Yeah, but my reason is very different then hers

It's because I'm trying to hard, right

charlie

Pocketing?

Idk, I'm just guessing

5:49 p.m.

White Knight reminds me of charisma so

I think like if

5:50 p.m.

I remember it's like I thought it was like

5:50 p.m.

a savior

5:50 p.m.

Like oh ur being scum read but im scum so ill town read u and be ur savior like that bc I have TMI

5:51 p.m.

hold up mafiascum wiki got my back

5:51 p.m.

WKing: White Knighting. Aggressively defending another player, implied to be town. Similar to Buddying.

Lol

charlie

WKing: White Knighting. Aggressively defending another player, implied to be town. Similar to Buddying.

Ohhhh

5:52 p.m.

Now it makes sense

Yeah but i dont think ziel was agressively defending nge at all

5:52 p.m.

Just being like i hope ur town

But Ziel is doing it without good reason except for like- "Dad Jokes hihihi"

trying to buddy with them

charlie

Yeah but i dont think ziel was agressively defending nge at all

Definitely not aggressively

Buddying is a tactic used to subconsciously become perceived as less of a threat by another player. While this is usually done by scum, Townies have been known to do this as well.

I agree

Like i would be like this with ziel

5:53 p.m.

This is typically accomplished by the buddying player acting unnaturally friendly to its target, either subtly or outright. Originally, this made it so that once the buddying scum died, it implicated the victim they were acting friendly toward. In addition, by budding up to a victim, they will become less likely to want to vote out the buddying player in the first place. More recently, though, this has become used as a pre-emptive accusation against anyone who acts nicely toward another player, regardless of intent.

5:54 p.m.

Yeah this seems wayyyyy more like ziel, then a white knight

Yeah

5:54 p.m.

I agree

charlie

Could you explain white knight to me like what does that mean in mafia terms

White Knight is when a scum defends a townie to make them look partnered. Which is different from pocketing, pocketing is earning the townies favor by any means necessary.

charlie

This is typically accomplished by the buddying player acting unnaturally friendly to its target, either subtly or outright. Originally, this made it so that once the buddying scum died, it implicated the victim they were acting friendly toward. In addition, by budding up to a victim, they will become less likely to want to vote out the buddying player in the first place. More recently, though, this has become used as a pre-emptive accusation against anyone who acts nicely toward another player, regardless of intent.

Yah white knight is buddying

Guillo

White Knight is when a scum defends a townie to make them look partnered. Which is different from pocketing, pocketing is earning the townies favor by any means necessary.

I mean do u believe nge was being defended

6:33 p.m.

But i dont remember anybody being like hmm about him, and zeil being like woah woah guys

There is something between those two

6:39 p.m.

This reaction to Ziel here: https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169746328809639947 Is very different to this here https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169748649740349502 If Nge thought those were surface level reads as well, why didnt he say something? Town Nge does not accept surface level reads on themselves and pockets, he’d be aware of it. Then after i voiced my concern he did state it here: https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169751720197365902

6:41 p.m.

Felt like he was waiting to see what other people said before he made any compromises.

Guillo

This reaction to Ziel here: https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169746328809639947 Is very different to this here https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169748649740349502 If Nge thought those were surface level reads as well, why didnt he say something? Town Nge does not accept surface level reads on themselves and pockets, he’d be aware of it. Then after i voiced my concern he did state it here: https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169751720197365902

Idk how to explain that fr

6:43 p.m.

The first time i read it i just didnt react bc i didnt see what you pointed out

6:44 p.m.

Not that way at least

6:44 p.m.

The surface level reads was right but like i already expected ziel to give smth like that regardless of alignment

6:45 p.m.

I wanted to compare it to the list she gave in sp39 before saying anything about it (which i still havent done yet) where she was maf and it was like reaaaaaally surface level and filler

6:45 p.m.

In my memory way more than this

6:45 p.m.

But it might be wrong

Guillo

Felt like he was waiting to see what other people said before he made any compromises.

This is 100% true but there was also a factor to be added there which is precisely getting anywhere myself

6:46 p.m.

My first feeling was it still felt better than that time but i cant say it yet bc im not sure

6:46 p.m.

Having ziel be this nice to me in a game is definitely new and i dont know how to react to that

And this keeps bothering me, it looks a lot like a slip https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169701806910226505 As in Nge is carrying me now and when i questioned it She tried to play it like it was a noun use here, which if you analyze the context, it simply was not: https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169702065883332738

Uh

6:47 p.m.

Not really

6:47 p.m.

I did read it like she said the first time

6:47 p.m.

As in

6:47 p.m.

A carry by nge is amazing

6:48 p.m.

(+ literally i just carried her like a week ago)

6:48 p.m.

She said i carried her then you said i carried you too and then she said “Nge carry is amazing”

6:49 p.m.

I dont see how that context doesnt fit what she said about it

Im gonna level with you man. It is either Ziel tried to pocket you to make you look partnered. Or you are the scum accepting that pocket so she looks bad with your flip. The fact that you didnt question it, when you have questioned others for similar things, makes me very sus of you too.

I never flip before ziel so that just doesnt make sense

6:52 p.m.

The last thing is valid

6:52 p.m.

Although “others” in this case is mostly lily

6:52 p.m.

And that’s just me being way more wary of lily than i am of ziel

6:53 p.m.

Anyways @Guillo im just going to check this but

6:53 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1159903095573205082/1163164200630239232

6:53 p.m.

Here’s the readlist she gave

6:53 p.m.

That sp39 game

6:53 p.m.

(We were both mafs there btw)

6:53 p.m.

‍♂️

6:54 p.m.

You are switching very easily into very drastic like

6:54 p.m.

Choices

6:54 p.m.

W/e

Ziel :D

Ngekop (Hard Town Lean)
- The N1 kill claims feels genuine T^T... (please no! ;-;.)
- The dad jokes! Hihihh
- I'm glad about saying that I feel Nge's towniness so much that it's 75% impossible for him to be scum. Ahhhhh! That's why I'll rely on him!

Ok so

7:00 p.m.

In retrospect yes

7:00 p.m.

Her read on me is the worst in this list

7:00 p.m.

And it’s a hard town lean aka the strongest she has

7:01 p.m.

And she has me as a good player as scum so idgi how im that easily 75% town if you go there

7:01 p.m.

That’s

7:01 p.m.

Uh

7:01 p.m.

Weird

7:01 p.m.

I admit it

7:01 p.m.

Is that what you wanted?

7:02 p.m.

She tries to replicate town behavior or i’d expect that

7:02 p.m.

If she is scum here again

7:03 p.m.

Meaning i doubt her partner would be sunny

7:03 p.m.

Idt it’s abyss either bc she wouldnt bus unless her partner is ok with it which i doubt abyss would encourage

7:03 p.m.

He wouldnt stop her but he wouldnt encourage her

7:04 p.m.

Ziel even asked me for permission to out a sl on me that game and hesitated on doing so

@charlie you should have a less narrowed view here since

7:05 p.m.

You arent the hardest tr in a weird way in her list

Oh i haven't read anything u guys typed yet

And you called her out that time she did this list

charlie

Oh i haven't read anything u guys typed yet

Im talking about ziel’s list tho

7:05 p.m.

Oh prod time

7:05 p.m.

Rip genesis

Yeah, I made a comment to here about her list which i was going to lead into more questions

And maybe eoth

her

7:06 p.m.

But she dipped so

7:06 p.m.

I'm just waiting

She stated she had to sleep ages ago tbf

7:06 p.m.

But ic

it should be 7 am for her rn

Yo ngekop

7:07 p.m.

Its a me mario

Genesis/eoth most likely ziel partners if she is scum Lily/guillo backups. The rest imo never maf with ziel

genesischaos

Yo ngekop

Bro

7:08 p.m.

You didnt speak all d1

7:08 p.m.

;-;

I opened the chat right

7:08 p.m.

Then i got flashbacks to last game of ngekop rando voting me off

genesischaos

Then i got flashbacks to last game of ngekop rando voting me off

Tbf it wasnt random

7:09 p.m.

I tr’d everyone but you and lily and lily was mechanically cleared due to host doing something really weird

7:09 p.m.

Aka ending night early when lily wasnt even given the chance to kill

7:09 p.m.

(She was maf)

7:09 p.m.

Anyways

7:09 p.m.

@genesischaos d2 now, thoughts?

7:10 p.m.

Hi abyss

Wait... D2

Sh

Hi

@genesischaos dont leave Why

Right, I forgot

I-

7:10 p.m.

Did he fr just dip again

I think he did

No im still here

He didnt

7:11 p.m.

W

Or not

I always come back.

Ngekop

@genesischaos d2 now, thoughts?

^

Cool

genesischaos

I always come back.

Great

Anyways I gotta do a couple of things, hold on

I was laughing at the emoji you sent

:/

7:11 p.m.

Ok but

7:12 p.m.

What do you think of the n1 kill

N1 kill?

The person attacked by mafia night 1

I didnt know anyone was attacked

7:13 p.m.

No one was

7:13 p.m.

Just tried to give it a shot

7:13 p.m.

Last time you randomly popped in and thought we were on d3

Not cool man

Had to try it

7:14 p.m.

Anyways

7:14 p.m.

Now fr and no tests

genesischaos

Not cool man

You can iso ziel and easyonthehills fully tbh

7:14 p.m.

For the rest uh

7:14 p.m.

Just try to catch up tbh

7:15 p.m.

I think reading from easyonthehills’s readlist is fine

7:15 p.m.

And share thoughts from there pls

What do you mean iso

Isolate

As in theyre not maf?

As in use the search function

7:15 p.m.

To read their messages

Oh right

To filter them out

Ok i know im not the brightest

7:17 p.m.

But i see comments like "wolfy town vibes" and i have no idea wtf that means

Oh lmao

7:18 p.m.

Vibes of someone being town role even if acting scummy i think

7:18 p.m.

Not really a term

7:18 p.m.

Just the way she worded it lol

I dont understand how you can sus people when nothing has happened

genesischaos

I dont understand how you can sus people when nothing has happened

Discussion

7:18 p.m.

Social deduction

7:18 p.m.

This game has no mechanics after all

@Adam I miss you, I never missed someone so much in my life, every single time I come into chat, I'm like Adam...where is he? I'm now forced to play this mafia game without you and it's been horrible and sad :(

7:19 p.m.

I think wolfy town vibes means Too wolfy to be wolf

7:19 p.m.

Is what she is saying

Hmm

I don't believe im wolfy tho so

Not sure

Okay is there usually a time of day where everyone is active

7:20 p.m.

I just finished my big exams

A specific time idts

I hope u got good scores

7:20 p.m.

Thx ❤️

Np ❤️

7:21 p.m.

Just reread ig from

7:21 p.m.

hmm

Maybe if i sus someone ill say they vented

Lol

Lowkey just reread from the beginning actually

Okay i will start and let you know what i think in a couple hours

7:22 p.m.

But i reserve the right to make schizo accusations and garbage explanations

charlie

Lowkey just reread from the beginning actually

4k messages

Readlist + comments tho would be good

Is a lot ngl

He can read, I'm sure he will be fine

7:23 p.m.

we have 24 hours left

Fair

I am literate

Ziel :D

So my town to scum is Ngekop (✨), Calla, Sunny, Lily, Guillo, genesischaos, EasyOnTheHills/Ane

Like her pocket is p good if it is bc i dont wanna vote her ;-;

7:27 p.m.

Where is keaton when i need him smh

His birthday is this month nods

Ooh

7:28 p.m.

Btw calla

7:28 p.m.

Are you still busy?

Yeah I'm about to head out to dinner, but I'll finish the flavor when I get home

7:28 p.m.

Idk if ur referring to that

Uh

7:28 p.m.

Yes and no

7:29 p.m.

I meant to talk with you here lol

7:29 p.m.

But i did say that bc you were busy and i knew bc of the flavor thingy

UHFIUHWSDIU, yeah ill be home around 9ish I think so, and then we can talk and stuff

Idk when is 9ish

7:29 p.m.

But uh

so like a hour and 30

Sure

7:29 p.m.

Oh

7:29 p.m.

Kk

Hi sunny

8:06 p.m.

May i ask what are your current thoughts rn pls

8:07 p.m.

If you could do a cait readlist style it’d be cool

8:07 p.m.

Aka

8:07 p.m.

Town Towniest person 2nd towniest person . . . Scummiest person Mafia

8:08 p.m.

Like piling all the 8 players outside of yourself in that order

8:08 p.m.

@SUNNY!!

oh okay Town Nge Calla Genesis EOTH Guillo Ane Ziel Lily Mafia my reads are mostly the same, guillo, ziel, ane, and genesis switched up though

~~How did i get to the top~~

8:14 p.m.

Also why is genesis 3rd

8:17 p.m.

Also @Guillo what made you think abyss wasnt a newbie

i dunno you just ended up at the top since i don't think anyone else seems more townie also i wanted to give them a chance since it seems like they don't have the best idea on what's going on

‍♂️ if they're actually going to backread then ill wait, if they don't then ill start to push genesis down

But i thought i was giving lots of mixed signals

8:18 p.m.

As in both fair amount of towny AND scummy traits

8:18 p.m.

So idgi

8:19 p.m.

How am i that top

SUNNY!!

i don't like that emoji please never send that again

i just trust lily less, felt like calla defended better also i hardly trust you more than calla so im not voting w/ you

Ok so by this time fair to say calla went way up

8:26 p.m.

But you at some point said uh

SUNNY!!

not crazy fancy since i was asleep when you guys were talking but Town Read - Town Lean - EOTH, Guillo: I don't entirely think that Guillo is town, because of things I mentioned earlier in the day during the back and forth between him and nge, but he's been acting more townie now and pushing for reads and stuff. Not sure if he's just switching up now just to escape getting lynched, but I trust him for now. EOTH's readlist, and how he handled the reactions to pretty townie to me!! I think i still need to see more of him though, considering his inactivity at the start. Of course, he hasn't voted Calla or Lily either, so he's not entirely town to me. Null - Nge, Ziel, Other Guy I really cannot tell whether NGE is town or maf right know, since it seems like he's playing for both sides rn.

I brought up the thing where he was trying to quietly imply he was town, saying things like "i can't be mafia because if i was i would do this instead of that" which will never not seem scummy to me. At the same time, most of the stuff he's doing is fairly townie, questioning his own votes and everyone else,, Ziel and Other Guy haven't said a word, unless I missed them. Nothing to go off of

Scum Lean - Lily, Calla Sorry, but I feel like Callahan is trying to blend in with town by making jokes and talking w/ me, saying we're a team and stuff,,, I agree but it's the same thing she did in past games when she was scum, so i can't be sure if it's genuine here either

Her reaction to EOTH's SR was a bit much to me, especially since both her and lily started pushing against EOTH after that. Lily isn't completely Scum to me, but she seems very aligned with Callahan, even asking calla to vote with her and asking people for reads on Callahan specifically Scum Read: none lol

This

8:27 p.m.

What made calla go from top2 scum to top2 town

8:27 p.m.

8:29 p.m.

The only thing you comment inbetween that is calla defended better than lily

8:29 p.m.

But that’s it

8:30 p.m.

You never mention her doing smth positive to make you change your mind

8:30 p.m.

In that interval

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169754701630287942 it's mainly stuff like this that made me lean more towards town than anything; being more active, answering questions and stuff, and questioning reads like how you are rn like honestly i don't completely think she's town, i just have more suspicions on the people below her, no where else to go and i don't want to have neutral reads when everyone's talked at least a bit

8:36 p.m.

my reads are constantly changing throughout the game, i am so sorry if that becomes an issue

Wait

8:37 p.m.

True @Guillo how do you get someone else (someone you havent played with before) being white knight on me from META

SUNNY!!

my reads are constantly changing throughout the game, i am so sorry if that becomes an issue

Reads changing aint an issue

8:37 p.m.

In fact it’s great bc it indicates progression from you

8:38 p.m.

Just like when it doesnt make sense or is like this drastic then it can look bad or at least weird

oh yeah yeah i can see that

im just not always firm on my SRs until im confident they've done someone that only scum could do or something

‍♂️

Well now i gotta wait on guillo

8:41 p.m.

The thing concerning tho is calla was doing that already even before you first sr’d her iirc

SUNNY!!

i don't like that emoji please never send that again

i just trust lily less, felt like calla defended better also i hardly trust you more than calla so im not voting w/ you

Also this post was before what you sent about her

yea, but at that time i was still questioning whether or not calla was pocketing me so i SLed them

im still not sure but im ruling that out for now so i put her higher up

SUNNY!!

oh okay Town Nge Calla Genesis EOTH Guillo Ane Ziel Lily Mafia my reads are mostly the same, guillo, ziel, ane, and genesis switched up though

When did you learn how to do this read list

8:44 p.m.

I never taught u that, nor do I think u were in any games were people did that

8:45 p.m.

where

i don't know it just popped outta nowhere

okay icic

8:45 p.m.

Omg how are your guys day today

charlie

When did you learn how to do this read list

I literally just asked him to

No no

8:53 p.m.

yes

8:53 p.m.

I mean yeah sorry

omfg

8:53 p.m.

the jumpscare

I'm gonna have a lot to read through when I get home...

Anyways

8:55 p.m.

@genesischaos how’s it going

SUNNY!!

oh okay Town Nge Calla Genesis EOTH Guillo Ane Ziel Lily Mafia my reads are mostly the same, guillo, ziel, ane, and genesis switched up though

why am i at the bottom of your reads list?

9:04 p.m.

also i got a few pings ill reply to them when i have time

9:04 p.m.

been doing stuff today

9:04 p.m.

and napped

mgnh you're just the one i sus the most out of everyone here

‍♂️

alright so why

9:08 p.m.

let's go over it

9:09 p.m.

although i might reply slowly

9:09 p.m.

what about my is sus?

9:09 p.m.

me*

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169629508672962682 some of these reads changed but the one on you hasn't really changed since i haven't seen you say any like actually reads or anything after EOTH posted his also stuff like this is just really strange to me,,, i think nge made a good point there and saying that makes it look like that you just gave up defending there https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169659501931151420

Ok here is my unsubstantiated schizo post: Order of people I’m sussing after reading messages from specific people Easyonthehills: posted some kinda based memes, sounds like he’s high IQ making long posts and putting thoughts into them, probably town. Anemoia: Kind of talks like me and posts effortful but short msgs. Lilypetal: Getting targeted with Callahan which is interesting considering she was actually being assertive – so I’m sus of the people pushing her. Callahan: Has a similar speech style to Ziel but actually talks more about the game, seems to be friends with Ngekop Guillo: More aggressive than EOTH which is a good sign, but susses Callahan which I disagree with Ngekop: Don’t know how to read this guy, but his speech is very game oriented. Seems to think he’ll be targeted, which I’m sus is a high IQ strat because I know he is quite experienced. SUNNY!!: Doesn’t sus me and is posting effortful messages about the game. However from my experience playing ToS typically accusers are townies so people that don’t sus others are more likely to be evil. Also posted a reaction image to Lily getting sussed rather than offering any real input and then said he didn’t read it. But came up with a long post after so maybe I'm wrong. Ziel: Populating the chat with very short answers full of useless text, and suggested I was scum – I find this sus, but maybe that’s just her personality? (edited)

genesischaos

Ok here is my unsubstantiated schizo post: Order of people I’m sussing after reading messages from specific people Easyonthehills: posted some kinda based memes, sounds like he’s high IQ making long posts and putting thoughts into them, probably town. Anemoia: Kind of talks like me and posts effortful but short msgs. Lilypetal: Getting targeted with Callahan which is interesting considering she was actually being assertive – so I’m sus of the people pushing her. Callahan: Has a similar speech style to Ziel but actually talks more about the game, seems to be friends with Ngekop Guillo: More aggressive than EOTH which is a good sign, but susses Callahan which I disagree with Ngekop: Don’t know how to read this guy, but his speech is very game oriented. Seems to think he’ll be targeted, which I’m sus is a high IQ strat because I know he is quite experienced. SUNNY!!: Doesn’t sus me and is posting effortful messages about the game. However from my experience playing ToS typically accusers are townies so people that don’t sus others are more likely to be evil. Also posted a reaction image to Lily getting sussed rather than offering any real input and then said he didn’t read it. But came up with a long post after so maybe I'm wrong. Ziel: Populating the chat with very short answers full of useless text, and suggested I was scum – I find this sus, but maybe that’s just her personality? (edited)

i what do u mean similar speech style to ziel

very short answers but yours were more relevant

Oh yeah i

9:17 p.m.

I press entered a lot of the times idkw hy

9:17 p.m.

why

I'm not even really sure if its a reassuring sign or not, I just associate shorter messages with less involvement in the game because you presumably already know who is evil

9:18 p.m.

amateur psychology moment

Nah but im narrowing it down now

I find it interesting though that ngekop kinda predicted I would be partners with EOTH. He comes across as entirely town but I don't know how he picked this

I was assuming poe?

SUNNY!!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169629508672962682 some of these reads changed but the one on you hasn't really changed since i haven't seen you say any like actually reads or anything after EOTH posted his also stuff like this is just really strange to me,,, i think nge made a good point there and saying that makes it look like that you just gave up defending there https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169659501931151420

Wait did i ever say that

poe?

Ngekop

Wait did i ever say that

say wat

genesischaos

poe?

Process of elimination, usually when u have a bunch of town reads like a towncore and u just put nulls and scum reads together and vote them out

i guess that's valid but don't you tr calla now

Oh fair enough

your SR hinged a lot on SRing calla too

9:21 p.m.

kinda sheeped guillo there

9:21 p.m.

why do you still SR me now that calla is higher?

how was i sheeping guillo?

genesischaos

Ok here is my unsubstantiated schizo post: Order of people I’m sussing after reading messages from specific people Easyonthehills: posted some kinda based memes, sounds like he’s high IQ making long posts and putting thoughts into them, probably town. Anemoia: Kind of talks like me and posts effortful but short msgs. Lilypetal: Getting targeted with Callahan which is interesting considering she was actually being assertive – so I’m sus of the people pushing her. Callahan: Has a similar speech style to Ziel but actually talks more about the game, seems to be friends with Ngekop Guillo: More aggressive than EOTH which is a good sign, but susses Callahan which I disagree with Ngekop: Don’t know how to read this guy, but his speech is very game oriented. Seems to think he’ll be targeted, which I’m sus is a high IQ strat because I know he is quite experienced. SUNNY!!: Doesn’t sus me and is posting effortful messages about the game. However from my experience playing ToS typically accusers are townies so people that don’t sus others are more likely to be evil. Also posted a reaction image to Lily getting sussed rather than offering any real input and then said he didn’t read it. But came up with a long post after so maybe I'm wrong. Ziel: Populating the chat with very short answers full of useless text, and suggested I was scum – I find this sus, but maybe that’s just her personality? (edited)

You cant edit messages btw

I deleted an extra line because it wasn't aesthetic

9:22 p.m.

sorry

9:23 p.m.

I didn't change the content of what i said

genesischaos

I find it interesting though that ngekop kinda predicted I would be partners with EOTH. He comes across as entirely town but I don't know how he picked this

Wait where did i say that

SUNNY!!

say wat

That it was lily giving up on defending there

Ngekop

Wait where did i say that

"Genesis/eoth most likely ziel partners if she is scum"

9:25 p.m.

Which upon rereading actually sounds like youre saying either of us is aligned with Ziel, but still correlates us

Ngekop

That it was lily giving up on defending there

you didn't say that, that's just how i felt she was acting the message is written as if she couldn't figure out what to say, and just gave up

genesischaos

"Genesis/eoth most likely ziel partners if she is scum"

I said you could be ziel’s partner here

9:28 p.m.

Never said you and eoth

genesischaos

Which upon rereading actually sounds like youre saying either of us is aligned with Ziel, but still correlates us

Indeed

I take back what I said earlier about being literate then

lilypetal

your SR hinged a lot on SRing calla too

scum LEAN also, i still sl you because while i think calla is acting more townie now, I still think it's a little weird why you specifically asked callahan to vote w/ you, asked for reads on her specially and stuff. it's the same reasoning as above, but now i feel you could just be trying to act like you're partners with calla

why would you ask callahan to vote with you? or ask for reads on her? also where your scum reads at

SUNNY!!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169629508672962682 some of these reads changed but the one on you hasn't really changed since i haven't seen you say any like actually reads or anything after EOTH posted his also stuff like this is just really strange to me,,, i think nge made a good point there and saying that makes it look like that you just gave up defending there https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169659501931151420

Ohh i misread this

Heya

SUNNY!!

scum LEAN also, i still sl you because while i think calla is acting more townie now, I still think it's a little weird why you specifically asked callahan to vote w/ you, asked for reads on her specially and stuff. it's the same reasoning as above, but now i feel you could just be trying to act like you're partners with calla

why would you ask callahan to vote with you? or ask for reads on her? also where your scum reads at

So

9:42 p.m.

Imma let lily answer to this but

9:43 p.m.

Imo it is just good how it is

SUNNY!!

scum LEAN also, i still sl you because while i think calla is acting more townie now, I still think it's a little weird why you specifically asked callahan to vote w/ you, asked for reads on her specially and stuff. it's the same reasoning as above, but now i feel you could just be trying to act like you're partners with calla

why would you ask callahan to vote with you? or ask for reads on her? also where your scum reads at

Well one of the SLs that Lily has is me, idk what the others are

Indeed

9:47 p.m.

One is you

Although I'm pretty sure I'm one for most people here thh

9:50 p.m.

Which isn't preferable

Ngekop

One is you

Do you know why Gullio tr's me? I don't know why he is based off of the good evidence that everyone else brings up of me being scum

9:51 p.m.

Meanwhile I don't think there's too much making me towny

SUNNY!!

scum LEAN also, i still sl you because while i think calla is acting more townie now, I still think it's a little weird why you specifically asked callahan to vote w/ you, asked for reads on her specially and stuff. it's the same reasoning as above, but now i feel you could just be trying to act like you're partners with calla

why would you ask callahan to vote with you? or ask for reads on her? also where your scum reads at

Asking for your townreads to vote with you isn't really weird. Maybe a community difference lol

9:52 p.m.

It's not acting partnered, it's working together

9:52 p.m.

Although guillo has made that same read and plays on MU so idk lol

9:52 p.m.

skill issue or something

9:52 p.m.

Also yeah as I've stated I have srs on ane and eoth

9:53 p.m.

i haven't read ane's recent posts so that read is a bit old but the last posts I read from eoth just felt grimy

9:53 p.m.

so still scum reading there

9:53 p.m.

its 48 hours so im not too pressed, ill put a proper reads list later

9:53 p.m.

I think your reasons for scum reading me are fine and I trust you'll course correct soon

Anemoia/Abyss

Do you know why Gullio tr's me? I don't know why he is based off of the good evidence that everyone else brings up of me being scum

Idk ask him ig

9:54 p.m.

Ig i can have an idea

9:54 p.m.

But he should answer that

lilypetal

i haven't read ane's recent posts so that read is a bit old but the last posts I read from eoth just felt grimy

What’s grimy

EasyOnTheHills

Anyways I am more and more convinced it is Callahan + Lily as this goes on, their reactions to my "bad reads" are not townie, they are incredibly defensive, which makes no sense considering I hardly pushed the reads nor did I even push for a vote on either of them. Really starting to think I found the scumteam and they just started freaking out cause they got caught early on. Like you can't say my reads are bad, but then say you have to worry because I made them, if they were really that bad they would hold no merit and the rest of town would move on, maybe perhaps they weren't bad in the first place and that is why you want to try so hard to discredit them... Again I haven't even pushed Callahan or Lily to be voted, all I did was simply post my current thoughts on the game so far at that point, and this has turned into them devolving into a OMGUS onto me somehow

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169675228914393191

9:58 p.m.

oh

9:58 p.m.

i replied to it

9:58 p.m.

OOPS LMAO

9:58 p.m.

im not used to discord

9:59 p.m.

basically this message felt grimy

EasyOnTheHills

Anyways I am more and more convinced it is Callahan + Lily as this goes on, their reactions to my "bad reads" are not townie, they are incredibly defensive, which makes no sense considering I hardly pushed the reads nor did I even push for a vote on either of them. Really starting to think I found the scumteam and they just started freaking out cause they got caught early on. Like you can't say my reads are bad, but then say you have to worry because I made them, if they were really that bad they would hold no merit and the rest of town would move on, maybe perhaps they weren't bad in the first place and that is why you want to try so hard to discredit them... Again I haven't even pushed Callahan or Lily to be voted, all I did was simply post my current thoughts on the game so far at that point, and this has turned into them devolving into a OMGUS onto me somehow

Okay in fairness I did say I regard EOTH as most likely town but I disagree with the conclusion here

The idea we were "freaking out because we got caught" is just not an authentic thought lol

10:00 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169675712131764305

10:00 p.m.

this also felt REALLY inauthentic like

lilypetal

basically this message felt grimy

Ok but

oh yeah im just lurking 24/7

What does grimy mean

10:00 p.m.

basically means bad faith

10:00 p.m.

lol

can you show me where he thinks you are "freaking out"

Sigh

because from what i read earlier you were not even that defensive

Well i’ll try to go off from what i got

genesischaos

can you show me where he thinks you are "freaking out"

seems like a question for him

well see what he says, i just hope his messages are easyontheeyes

Lol

genesischaos

Ok here is my unsubstantiated schizo post: Order of people I’m sussing after reading messages from specific people Easyonthehills: posted some kinda based memes, sounds like he’s high IQ making long posts and putting thoughts into them, probably town. Anemoia: Kind of talks like me and posts effortful but short msgs. Lilypetal: Getting targeted with Callahan which is interesting considering she was actually being assertive – so I’m sus of the people pushing her. Callahan: Has a similar speech style to Ziel but actually talks more about the game, seems to be friends with Ngekop Guillo: More aggressive than EOTH which is a good sign, but susses Callahan which I disagree with Ngekop: Don’t know how to read this guy, but his speech is very game oriented. Seems to think he’ll be targeted, which I’m sus is a high IQ strat because I know he is quite experienced. SUNNY!!: Doesn’t sus me and is posting effortful messages about the game. However from my experience playing ToS typically accusers are townies so people that don’t sus others are more likely to be evil. Also posted a reaction image to Lily getting sussed rather than offering any real input and then said he didn’t read it. But came up with a long post after so maybe I'm wrong. Ziel: Populating the chat with very short answers full of useless text, and suggested I was scum – I find this sus, but maybe that’s just her personality? (edited)

Brb

10:05 p.m.

Oh sorry ping

me when i think someone wants to talk to me about my schizophrenic allegations sevienne

but they actually dont Why

genesischaos

me when i think someone wants to talk to me about my schizophrenic allegations sevienne

but they actually dont Why

Uh

10:08 p.m.

Im glad you are more active now

10:08 p.m.

Like way more glad

10:08 p.m.

Anyways i tried to read into teams and this is what i got into

10:08 p.m.

Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Guillo/ziel Guillo/sunny Lily/ziel Lily/sunny Abyss/genesis Abyss/eoth Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/eoth

10:08 p.m.

Calla: 2 Guillo: 2 Lily: 2 Abyss: 2 Ziel: 5 Genesis: 4 Sunny: 2 Eoth: 3

10:09 p.m.

Possible partners for each^

Could u explain why I might be partners with ziel and genesis

Ngekop

Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Guillo/ziel Guillo/sunny Lily/ziel Lily/sunny Abyss/genesis Abyss/eoth Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/eoth

Ofc you can include all the 8 i could be in

charlie

Could u explain why I might be partners with ziel and genesis

Why not

Oh its just like random pairing

Idt you are partners with anyone who has talked

10:09 p.m.

Before

To be fair I haven't really spoken to Abyss

Idt you are with lily for reasons already stated

I’ll eat my socks if you and guillo end up being both mafias

charlie

Could u explain why I might be partners with ziel and genesis

when callahan doesn't want to be my friend Why

I stated idt you/abyss/sunny has more than one

sorry i love that emoji too much

actually im partners with sunny fr

Idt eqsy pushes you and you react that defensively about it

genesischaos

when callahan doesn't want to be my friend Why

IWFUHYEI&YFH

10:10 p.m.

no no

charlie

actually im partners with sunny fr

That’s

ur cool

The one im unsure about

10:10 p.m.

charlie

ur cool

oh

Literally

10:11 p.m.

My previous cut

yeah i would say me and sunny go way back

Before that one

10:11 p.m.

Was this

10:11 p.m.

Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Calla/sunny Guillo/ziel Guillo/genesis Guillo/sunny Guillo/eoth Lily/ziel Lily/genesis Lily/sunny Abyss/genesis Abyss/eoth Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/sunny Genesis/eoth Sunny/eoth

10:11 p.m.

;-;

see you would think the sun and hills go together right

10:11 p.m.

so i agree with the last pair

Ngekop

Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Calla/sunny Guillo/ziel Guillo/genesis Guillo/sunny Guillo/eoth Lily/ziel Lily/genesis Lily/sunny Abyss/genesis Abyss/eoth Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/sunny Genesis/eoth Sunny/eoth

Here i removed those i could bet on not being it

Lowkey pair me with eoth

Nah

10:12 p.m.

Not as scum pair at least

We could be scum distancing ourselves since he actually never even voted me

10:12 p.m.

and has poor reasons

Yes i know

10:12 p.m.

But the way you reacted

10:12 p.m.

To his sr on you

why did guillo vote nge btw

u dont think its in my scum range to do that?

Is too over the line for what i would see as MvM

genesischaos

why did guillo vote nge btw

charlie

u dont think its in my scum range to do that?

I think it is but idt you did

Pretty sure his first vote on nge was bc he felt like nge was putting on a performance and the second vote something to do with ziel

And now that you pointed it out as SECOND (bc you said you/sunny first as in a pair i could include)

10:13 p.m.

P sure you arent with him

:(

charlie

Pretty sure his first vote on nge was bc he felt like nge was putting on a performance and the second vote something to do with ziel

Tru

charlie

:(

Why the sad face wtf

me and sunny ❤️

10:14 p.m.

fr

Either im just right or you have fooled me and might win

10:14 p.m.

maybe

Ngekop

Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Guillo/ziel Guillo/sunny Lily/ziel Lily/sunny Abyss/genesis Abyss/eoth Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/eoth

Anyways it came down to this for me

10:14 p.m.

Wdyt

there's a lot of pairs there that make sense (including the ones with me in them) but some others I have no clue nge

I mean

10:16 p.m.

You can help narrow it down

10:16 p.m.

Oooor you can point out one that is missing and we can argue about it

okay ill keep your post in mind and come back to it when i have some more susses/information

genesischaos

To be fair I haven't really spoken to Abyss

Howdy

greetings

So... We finally meet

Ngekop

Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Guillo/ziel Guillo/sunny Lily/ziel Lily/sunny Abyss/genesis Abyss/eoth Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/eoth

@charlie @lilypetal wdyt

why did ziel and calla vote you anemoia

Anyways

Like

genesischaos

why did ziel and calla vote you anemoia

I guess they have the best answer to that

Ofc i prioritize teams than dont include yourself btw

I don't know the full extent of why

As in for discussion

also nge voted me

Except that Calla felt like I was overdoing it at one time

genesischaos

also nge voted me

Oh true

10:20 p.m.

I might remove it

That's my answer at leafy

Idk who to vote tho

Least*

Ngekop

Idk who to vote tho

Me (jkjk)

10:21 p.m.

Calla is doing a BIG post

10:21 p.m.

I can tell

my kinda susses on sunny and ziel aren't well substantiated so i dont blame you

genesischaos

my kinda susses on sunny and ziel aren't well substantiated so i dont blame you

I had to take your big post into account lol

Ngekop

@charlie @lilypetal wdyt

Yeah, I'm confused on Guillo and Ziel I would have put Guillo/Abyss, maybe? Lily and Sunny is odd A lot of these don't really make sense to me i'm ngl

I removed you/lily based on that

charlie

Yeah, I'm confused on Guillo and Ziel I would have put Guillo/Abyss, maybe? Lily and Sunny is odd A lot of these don't really make sense to me i'm ngl

Me and Gullio? Interesting

charlie

Yeah, I'm confused on Guillo and Ziel I would have put Guillo/Abyss, maybe? Lily and Sunny is odd A lot of these don't really make sense to me i'm ngl

So

Ngekop

I had to take your big post into account lol

thanks for reading it at least haha

I fear that guy tho

The reason why i didnt include guillo/abyss

did u just say so? when u asked for my opinions

Is bc the meta he said is true

10:22 p.m.

+

10:22 p.m.

I feel like

10:22 p.m.

Guillo thinking abyss wasnt a newbie

10:23 p.m.

Was genuine

10:23 p.m.

And i think he wouldnt think that

I dont even remember that im ngl

If they were sharing scum chat for that time by then

Yeah I haven't been on the server for that long- idk why he thought I wasn't a newbie-

Guillo

What questionable posts does Anemoia have? (He is not a newbie) Not wrong on Lily fading away after her entrance but she fades away as both town and scum, but townie thought if you havent met lily before. What does her progression on Callahan have anything to do with Anemoia though? Please can you point out the posts you felt were forced from Callahan?

@charlie

Oh y'know, just my (little, like very little) ToS experience

then i feel like if ur using that same logic with abyss

10:24 p.m.

sunny and gullio shouldnt be paired either

I played ToS2 a lot when it came out

bc gullio kept asking sunny how many games they played

10:24 p.m.

And sunny kept joking

charlie

sunny and gullio shouldnt be paired either

Not really bc guillo just asked sunny for their experience

Anemoia/Abyss

Oh y'know, just my (little, like very little) ToS experience

i always wanted to play in a discord lobby but impossible to find 15 ppl

Which can easily be faked

10:24 p.m.

Since he’s asked plenty of ppl about it

genesischaos

i always wanted to play in a discord lobby but impossible to find 15 ppl

Ic

hmm okay okay

But with abyss he assumed it

10:24 p.m.

And i asked him why but i think i know the reason

10:25 p.m.

Which puts more weight into that

I feel honored by that though, even though it was wrong

Anemoia/Abyss

Ic

huh

genesischaos

huh

It was just me confirming I saw that

10:25 p.m.

It could've sounded rude if I just did, "ok"

alrighty then

charlie

Yeah, I'm confused on Guillo and Ziel I would have put Guillo/Abyss, maybe? Lily and Sunny is odd A lot of these don't really make sense to me i'm ngl

Guillo/ziel bc ziel’s elaboration on guillo was weak imo

Ngekop

@charlie @lilypetal wdyt

what does this mean

And guillo bringing attention on ziel the way he did is imo 100% in his scum range

Ngekop

Not really bc guillo just asked sunny for their experience

other than you who else is very experienced here

lilypetal

what does this mean

Those are my narrowed down list of possible teams

genesischaos

other than you who else is very experienced here

Guillo

10:27 p.m.

Lily

10:27 p.m.

Calla is p good

10:27 p.m.

Uh

team building feels weird not something i can do day 1 lol

Idk if eoth

lilypetal

team building feels weird not something i can do day 1 lol

Iiiii agree

10:27 p.m.

That’s me usually

Gullio I'm sure is extremely experienced

10:27 p.m.

Gullio gives that vibe

But this game particularly and with imo not anyone being particularly scummy and many people being mostly towny

10:27 p.m.

I felt like i could do that

10:28 p.m.

Aka narrow down possible partners for everyone

Ngekop

Idk if eoth

i guess you could say he is easyonthegameplay

lilypetal

team building feels weird not something i can do day 1 lol

Still it could help if you see one that you think can easily be removed

So you think Genesis(cool name btw) and EOTH could be paired with me? I'm guessing partly it's because we haven't really talked to each other or smth?

Yep and bc idt you can be paired with everyone else

Cool

Anemoia/Abyss

So you think Genesis(cool name btw) and EOTH could be paired with me? I'm guessing partly it's because we haven't really talked to each other or smth?

thanks abyss your name is pretty shocked

too

Given the additional attention they’ve brought up on you

10:29 p.m.

So for instance

10:29 p.m.

Given my list

genesischaos

thanks abyss your name is pretty shocked

too

Thanks :>

If ziel and gen flip town

Anyhow

Either it’s abyss/eoth

10:30 p.m.

Or

10:30 p.m.

Sunny+guillo/lily

Icic

10:30 p.m.

How confident are you with that?

10:30 p.m.

Also Nge, who would you like to keep in today?

oh ic = i see

Or ig for tmw

genesischaos

oh ic = i see

Yep!

im slow

It's fine lol dw

Anemoia/Abyss

Also Nge, who would you like to keep in today?

Wdym

Ngekop

If ziel and gen flip town

What does Ziel have to do with this?

Ngekop

Wdym

Who would you like not to get lynched

10:32 p.m.

So far

i forgot that ziel sussed my boi easyontheaccusations

waits

Anemoia/Abyss

What does Ziel have to do with this?

Many possible partners

Ic

Anemoia/Abyss

Who would you like not to get lynched

Today?

10:33 p.m.

Uh

10:33 p.m.

Me

waits

Calla

10:33 p.m.

Lily

Just 3 people?

Im thinking

Ziel :D

EasyOnTheHills (Wolf Lean)
- Uhh... I don't believe EOTH's reads are accurate... I don't think their reads count as wolfy,,,
- Their reads make sense. I don't think 100% accurate, but makes sense... I need to read onto it later on.
- That reaction to their (Calla and Lily's) reactions was not towny. In my opinion, it's normal they'd be defensive if they have the right to defend themselves (both are my town reads as well)... 78% wolfy, 22% towny.

i trust his calls tbh but again im not sure if she's pulling a high IQ strat

K

Realistically speaking

10:34 p.m.

Guillo doesnt go today

ngekop scheming to kill me sevienne

I agree, I don't think it's possible for Gullio to go today, even if some people sr him

In the remaining 5 idrc except idt sunny goes today either

10:34 p.m.

Given he is generally tr’d

Actually I see that with all of the experienced players

10:34 p.m.

I don't think any of them are getting out

10:35 p.m.

Today

Anemoia/Abyss

Actually I see that with all of the experienced players

It does be like that at times :/

10:35 p.m.

I mean im ngl i dont sl lily or calla really

10:35 p.m.

Like i just dont

Ngekop

It does be like that at times :/

So sad

(theatrics) I'm not as experienced

Ngekop

Like i just dont

Last time I checked you didn't have anyone as scum, do you have any now?

No

10:36 p.m.

That’s why i turned into partnerships

Anemoia/Abyss

Last time I checked you didn't have anyone as scum, do you have any now?

Ziel possibly :(

10:36 p.m.

But

genesischaos

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Diagnosis: Idc(half lying)

I really dont want her to be scum

10:36 p.m.

And she is pleasant af to have here

Ngekop

That’s why i turned into partnerships

Ohhhh ic now

im gonna go for now but i will be back later

10:37 p.m.

ill periodically read whats going on

Wbu @Anemoia/Abyss

Abouttttttt?

genesischaos

im gonna go for now but i will be back later

Byeeeeeee

10:38 p.m.

About what Nge?

I do think guillo/ziel might just not be it

(not in a rude manner)

Anemoia/Abyss

About what Nge?

Your reads

Ouchies

10:39 p.m.

I haven't made a read list so I haven't been keeping track of them

Wait true

Off the top of my head, you're Null, so is Genesis

10:39 p.m.

Uhhh

@lilypetal wdyt

10:39 p.m.

About ziel’s list

Like- Calla and Lily I don't know anymore, they're complex imo

10:40 p.m.

Who else is there...

10:40 p.m.

Ziel is weird, the read on you is not that good, and there is a lot of fluff, but I don't think that's scum or town behavior

10:40 p.m.

It could be though

10:41 p.m.

Sunny seemed genuine at the start but I haven't read into them in a while, but at the start they were Towny to me

10:42 p.m.

Myself? Town

Ngekop

About ziel’s list

where

Ziel :D

## PLAYERS:

Here

the part about me is really weird lol

I just need to read into people more, but like I'd like to think that you're town Nge, and I really hope you are- You're like- very close to null now that I think about it, you're always very towny. You're progressing the game and always ask questions and such, but you probably could easily do it as scum too Very slightly town lean

kinda based reads

10:44 p.m.

tbh

lilypetal

kinda based reads

The reasonings tho

10:44 p.m.

Her hardest town lean is me

I need to read into EOTH's read list

And the reasons are indeed bad imo

agrees with me so

10:44 p.m.

good

That's like the main EOTH thing

The only AI thing she said of me

10:44 p.m.

Was the n1 kill comments

I think that's it

10:45 p.m.

Yeah

lilypetal

agrees with me so

So?

Lily and Callahan are just so... Complicated tbh

Im not saying what do you think of her accuracy

10:45 p.m.

Im asking what do you think of her

Sorry for not having any good reads Nge-

Anemoia/Abyss

Lily and Callahan are just so... Complicated tbh

how so?

Anemoia/Abyss

Sorry for not having any good reads Nge-

Dont be

10:46 p.m.

They arent bad

10:46 p.m.

And i appreciate the effort

Ngekop

So?

if im correct then they're either distancing or also a correct town

therefore i shouldn't worry abt them

10:46 p.m.

the reasonings seemed good

10:47 p.m.

post was formatted well and i liked the vibe

10:47 p.m.

i dig it

lilypetal

the reasonings seemed good

i-

10:47 p.m.

The one on me seemed good?

no

10:47 p.m.

the SRs

Ok but

10:47 p.m.

She labeled me as hard town lean (only one btw) with THAT reasoning

lilypetal

how so?

A lot has happened with you two, that's all, I need to look into you two the most, because there was the "overreaction" thing, then idk what you two read each other as, but y'all got a lot of action happening

Which imo 100% is either scum pocket or town with a personal bias (in which case ily ziel)

Are you talking about Ziels read on you?

I dont want abyss today sorry

Anemoia/Abyss

Are you talking about Ziels read on you?

Yes

Anemoia/Abyss

A lot has happened with you two, that's all, I need to look into you two the most, because there was the "overreaction" thing, then idk what you two read each other as, but y'all got a lot of action happening

im kinda sick thats true

Y or N, because I definitely have a strong opinion on it

Ngekop

Yes

Ok

10:50 p.m.

That read on you is... Horrible, I wouldn't even trust it to be accurate or even contribute it to anything I do. It's so feelzy and y'all had a massive fluff thing that idek what to think of, actually I do. Filler imo.

10:51 p.m.

Therefore, I think it's a bad read, and I won't even put a nice filter on it

lilypetal

im kinda sick thats true

So sick that I don't know what to think atm

Anemoia/Abyss

That read on you is... Horrible, I wouldn't even trust it to be accurate or even contribute it to anything I do. It's so feelzy and y'all had a massive fluff thing that idek what to think of, actually I do. Filler imo.

That's like the thing I'm most confident on here

10:52 p.m.

For this entire game

10:52 p.m.

Ok I'll stop talking about it now

@charlie can you unvote him pls

10:52 p.m.

Sorry Ziel :>

10:52 p.m.

Wha-

10:53 p.m.

Also what's Ziel's reason on voting me?

10:53 p.m.

I know it's somewhere but there has been a lot of msgs

Unless smth unexpected happens today’s lynch always is in lily/abyss/genesis/ziel/eoth

10:54 p.m.

And i dont want it to be either of the first 2

10:54 p.m.

Not today at least

Anemoia/Abyss

I know it's somewhere but there has been a lot of msgs

You can read her list

Ziel :D

## PLAYERS:

^^

Ohhhh

10:56 p.m.

Ok!

Ziel/genesis/eoth is a fine poe for d1 imo

10:57 p.m.

I dont want either out tho

10:58 p.m.

I love everyone in here i dont want anyone out

Ziel :D

Anemoia[>>>Abyss] (Wolf Lean)
- The freezing (yet no, I don't have much to say about that) but most especially that between Calla which does not at all make up a conversation between two town-aligned players. In which Ane seems the wolfier.

Freezing? Oof Also I forgot why that interaction between me and Calla was not two towns talking

I just said i felt it wasnt two CITS talking

Ngekop

I love everyone in here i dont want anyone out

Then we get everyone out! /J

And she agreed

OH

10:59 p.m.

Wait- just agreed with you? Nothing else, no evidence of analysis?

No

Hmmmm

Ngekop

Ziel/genesis/eoth is a fine poe for d1 imo

Lol ironically the 3 people who werent talking at first

11:01 p.m.

I didnt end up being able to move out from there huh

Nuh-uh

Nge has died R.I.P. XXXX-2023

11:16 p.m.

Don't worry guys! I can revive him!

Wtf

11:49 p.m.

Wdym i died

He's back!

12:08 a.m.

I was just joking because I was waiting for you to say more

There was not much more for me to add

12:09 a.m.

Not yet at least

Ok

12:13 a.m.

So are we going to leave it like this orrrr?

Where did guillo and calla go

Do you like the game state as it is?

Anemoia/Abyss

So are we going to leave it like this orrrr?

I hope people come back

Ngekop

Where did guillo and calla go

Idk

Ngekop

I hope people come back

Me twice

I hope we can decide on a lynch like 5-6 hours before eod

12:14 a.m.

So we can let them claim

Agreed

Im impressed with scum’s performance so far ngl (especially if they are with calla/sunny/guillo)

12:33 a.m.

Dont get me wrong btw

12:33 a.m.

They can perfectly be scum

12:33 a.m.

But if they are im impressed with their performance

12:33 a.m.

Ngekop

Ziel/genesis/eoth is a fine poe for d1 imo

there it is

12:45 a.m.

its the classic ngekop: lets accuse genesis after a certain period of time has elapsed

genesischaos

its the classic ngekop: lets accuse genesis after a certain period of time has elapsed

Are you serious

12:50 a.m.

Im having you in poe

12:50 a.m.

Not even accusing you

12:51 a.m.

And last time it was due to a borderline host error

Ngekop

Not even accusing you

^^^^^

1:17 a.m.

Also Nge doesn't even sr you either

@Ziel :D i need you to elaborate way more on why i am 75% town to you here

1:25 a.m.

You said i was a great scum so idk how do i get there so easily to you

1:26 a.m.

Wouldnt you be more wary of me instead?

I am trusting my gut +the odds

1:57 a.m.

What are the odds

1:57 a.m.

I trust Nge is town

1:57 a.m.

The feels

1:57 a.m.

If you're scum…

1:57 a.m.

Okay.

Ziel :D

What are the odds

i-

1:57 a.m.

Is the reason im 75% there legit just odds

Guillo

@lilypetal up until this point ive been accepting you treating me like im your mason, cause the idea of baiting the kill for the whoever the real masons are gives me purpose, but i dont like your reaction to EOTH and how you dont see that Calla's reaction to him are overblown and aggressively OMGUSy, so im gonna state that if i was a mason, my mason would not be Lilypetal and disassociate myself from you.

I want to say that I really dislike this post. I was never treating you like that, and in fact my play obviously showed that early day 1 as I was actively solving your slot. Rest idc abt but the weird mech stuff needs to be pointed out

Guillo

Every post? Why the lol?

Also I type lol a lot

I forgot Mason's exist

Ngekop

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1159903095573205082/1163164200630239232

I dont have perms to see the post history of this

Ngekop

Is that what you wanted?

What you mean if that is what i wanted? You say it like you dont really believe it and are telling me it to somewhat make me happy, that is not how it works.

Ngekop

Ziel even asked me for permission to out a sl on me that game and hesitated on doing so

Hmmm ok.

genesischaos

I dont understand how you can sus people when nothing has happened

Are you a ToS player?

SUNNY!!

oh okay Town Nge Calla Genesis EOTH Guillo Ane Ziel Lily Mafia my reads are mostly the same, guillo, ziel, ane, and genesis switched up though

Ngekop

Also @Guillo what made you think abyss wasnt a newbie

By the way he played in Marvel game

Ngekop

True @Guillo how do you get someone else (someone you havent played with before) being white knight on me from META

What you mean?

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Or she was trying to reach minimum post count with short repeated messages, maybe.

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

These are all surface level reads as well but knowing you are a ToS player, it makes sense

Anemoia/Abyss

I forgot Mason's exist

i-

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

My biggest question is why you have me as null when you allegedly mindmelded with me on lily/calla, from your point of view i should your toppest town. Is it because i have you in my scum leans myself?

Guillo

I dont have perms to see the post history of this

Wat

2:56 a.m.

How

2:57 a.m.

Bro get the archivist role

2:57 a.m.

No

2:57 a.m.

Not the archivist

2:57 a.m.

The archives*

Guillo

What you mean if that is what i wanted? You say it like you dont really believe it and are telling me it to somewhat make me happy, that is not how it works.

Uh i do believe what i said there

Ngekop

i-

Stopppppp, I can sense the disappointment in that msg-

2:58 a.m.

Anyways time to backread Gullio!

I just didnt like the way you brought it up and i kinda threw that feeling out there with it

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Yah you had not had time to establish a townread on Calla when you did. It’s all good now, i townread Calla now

Guillo

By the way he played in Marvel game

I know

2:59 a.m.

I figured it was that

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Why do you?

Like 1-2 hours after i asked

Ngekop

I just didnt like the way you brought it up and i kinda threw that feeling out there with it

It's because there was a reply to another msg that mentioned Mason's

I thought you had a hard time making reads on day 1, that is a read, now explain it

Guillo

What you mean?

You said ziel was white knight on me based on meta

2:59 a.m.

But like

3:00 a.m.

That’s smth regarding HER behavior

3:00 a.m.

Which you have no meta on

Anemoia/Abyss

Stopppppp, I can sense the disappointment in that msg-

Not really

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

I had you as a mason read until that point

Ngekop

Not really

It definitely felt like it-

But that also makes me think you’re just town

Ngekop

I had you as a mason read until that point

Me? As Mason?

Anemoia/Abyss

Me? As Mason?

Yep

Interestttingggg

You seemed confident on being town and not being at risk

Eh

Making you chill about other people sr’ing you

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

And approaching that with being calm about it

Ngekop

You seemed confident on being town and not being at risk

Definitely not to get killed, since I don't have a lot of uhhh, what do you call it? Influence.

Ngekop

Making you chill about other people sr’ing you

I know I'm town so it's chiil

3:02 a.m.

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Yah i had the same impression, but she was high in meds allegedly so i understand it

Anemoia/Abyss

It's because there was a reply to another msg that mentioned Mason's

Wdym

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Right? Me and Ziel? Lol

Anemoia/Abyss

I know I'm town so it's chiil

Even if you are town you can get lynched

3:04 a.m.

Unless you’re mason ofc

lilypetal

I want to say that I really dislike this post. I was never treating you like that, and in fact my play obviously showed that early day 1 as I was actively solving your slot. Rest idc abt but the weird mech stuff needs to be pointed out

I think it's the reply to this msg

3:04 a.m.

Oops

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Weaker than yours? Lol

The msg it's replying to

At least i called her out, what did you do?

Ngekop

Unless you’re mason ofc

Unless I'm Mason?

3:05 a.m.

Oh

3:05 a.m.

Right

3:05 a.m.

I was a little dumb lol

Ngekop

Even if you are town you can get lynched

Yeah, but I'm not likely to

3:06 a.m.

I'm just chilling and trying to contribute at this point

Guillo

Right? Me and Ziel? Lol

Based on the exact description you gave on your scum meta i dont see what’s wrong with that one

Guillo

Weaker than yours? Lol

No but i know im town fmpov

With all of my power(yes this is literally me on 90% try hard mode, it's not that good, 100% would be dropping everything and focusing solely on this game)

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Today im at my weakest point as im sick. Today is the best time for scum to do something about it, im just trying to get to minimum 30 and bug the hell out cause im feeling like shit

Guillo

At least i called her out, what did you do?

Exactly, if you see partner doing smth sus you dont hesitate on calling it out

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

No shit

So idgi how is that unpairing

3:08 a.m.

From you specifically

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Why?

Why to what on that post

Anemoia/Abyss

Yeah, but I'm not likely to

So you never felt even a tiny bit at risk

Specifically

Even when you have been top wagon most of the day (2 votes only ik but still)

Ngekop

So you never felt even a tiny bit at risk

A little, but not now

Ngekop

Even when you have been top wagon most of the day (2 votes only ik but still)

I was a little concerned, but not too badly

Guillo

Today im at my weakest point as im sick. Today is the best time for scum to do something about it, im just trying to get to minimum 30 and bug the hell out cause im feeling like shit

Im getting sick too :/

3:09 a.m.

I hate it ngl

More annoyed that I was getting voted in the first place

Ok real time at last

Guillo

Why?

I don't know if it's scum or towny because I haven't really played with Ziel so idk what they do, if they do this often

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Why? I have a different PoE. Nge/Sunny/Ziel If that does not end the game i’d be surprised

Why not Genesis or EOTH?

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Because you townread everyone else right?

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Anemoia/Abyss

I don't know if it's scum or towny because I haven't really played with Ziel so idk what they do, if they do this often

But the things that Ziel really did as I said on the message, I didn't think was progressing the game by any means so it might actually be scummy... Hmmmmm... I'll stand by it not being towny behavior, since it's not progressing the game, no info, and the read was so... Bad

Ngekop

You said ziel was white knight on me based on meta

Oh cause she claims you have played together

Y'know what? Ziel at scum lean, hasn't really gone out of the way to progress the game too much and a lot of filler. This is all from memory, but it makes sense from me

Guillo

Why? I have a different PoE. Nge/Sunny/Ziel If that does not end the game i’d be surprised

That’s so funny

Ngekop

No but i know im town fmpov

And i know im town from my point of view, unfortunately it does not mean anything does it

Ngekop

Im getting sick too :/

I hope it is not as tough as mine man

Guillo

And i know im town from my point of view, unfortunately it does not mean anything does it

Not for me but i cant tell you that you should consider yourself as scum can i?

Guillo

Why? I have a different PoE. Nge/Sunny/Ziel If that does not end the game i’d be surprised

Im p sure that doesnt end the game

Ngekop

Is the reason im 75% there legit just odds

Nope. Odds +reads ++feels.

Ngekop

Im p sure that doesnt end the game

SAME

@Ziel :D just for fun

And this is post 30

Wanna make guillo top wagon?

3:19 a.m.

We can do that rn if we both vote there

I need to go

3:19 a.m.

My vote stays

3:20 a.m.

That is my legacy

3:20 a.m.

Night

Guillo

That is my legacy

Legacy to what

3:20 a.m.

If you die n1 i’ll be surprised

That you are scum

I said legacy to what

3:20 a.m.

Not that what was your legacy

I die if you are or you are throwing

Im not tho

3:21 a.m.

So im surprised if you die

3:21 a.m.

Bc you’ll throw d2

3:21 a.m.

So no need to kill you :p

3:21 a.m.

If i was maf i probs would kill you tho

3:21 a.m.

Ngl

Oh so you can kill

I have enough influence

Nice

Guillo

Oh so you can kill

No

Ngekop

So no need to kill you :p

For mafia

3:22 a.m.

Dummy

3:22 a.m.

I dont get you this game fr tho ngl

3:23 a.m.

But idt as scum you’d be that sloppy

3:23 a.m.

And idt you’d intentionally do that to come out that way and hope to be tr’d for it

3:23 a.m.

So i’ll just assume you’re town

3:23 a.m.

And hope you die soon AnimeThumbsup

3:24 a.m.

@Mafia use rolecop on him frfr

3:24 a.m.

(Or just yk, kill him)

3:24 a.m.

@Anemoia/Abyss dont sheep this guy btw

3:24 a.m.

Even if i die tn

3:25 a.m.

And he claims mason and is unccd (i.e. becomes confirmed town)

3:25 a.m.

Don’t sheep him

3:25 a.m.

@Ziel :D if you are town pls unvote

3:25 a.m.

I dont want abyss

3:26 a.m.

@charlie you too

3:26 a.m.

You said it yourself you dont think im teamed with him

3:26 a.m.

So uh yk

3:26 a.m.

If im maf he is town and if im town pls trust me at least for today

3:26 a.m.

3:27 a.m.

Where did everyone go zzz

Ngekop

@Ziel :D just for fun

What do you mean???

3:27 a.m.

:>

Ziel :D

What do you mean???

We can vote guillo rn

3:28 a.m.

That’d make him top wagon

Okayyyy

Ngekop

@Anemoia/Abyss dont sheep this guy btw

Sheep who?

Sounds fair

Anemoia/Abyss

Sheep who?

Guillo

Ngekop

Guillo

And DONT

I don't really like sheeping too much, unless it's confirmed town, and even then I don't sheep that much

3:28 a.m.

So no need to worry!

Yeah im telling you even if he becomes confirmed town

So we top wagon Guillo? :^

Dont sheep him

Ziel :D

So we top wagon Guillo? :^

Sure why not

3:30 a.m.

The fact i had ziel and sunny as possible guillo partners

3:30 a.m.

And he said those two and me

Ngekop

Wanna make guillo top wagon?

I thought you wanted others out more

Is funny

Anemoia/Abyss

I thought you wanted others out more

Mhm

3:31 a.m.

@Ziel :D go

3:31 a.m.

I follow

Anemoia/Abyss

I thought you wanted others out more

It’s funny to have him as top wagon tho

3:31 a.m.

The clown is voting me

3:31 a.m.

It’s a personal satisfaction

3:31 a.m.

Ziel :D

Okayyyy

That was too easy imo

Winning tvt’s is satisfying for me fr

Anemoia/Abyss

That was too easy imo

Where’s her vote tho

3:32 a.m.

Ngekop

Dont sheep him

But... Why

Bc i dont trust his reads

Ngekop

Where’s her vote tho

I haven't looked at the vote channel yet

Ngekop

Bc i dont trust his reads

Well, ok

3:33 a.m.

Imma just note that

I think lily wouldve 100% acted different than she did if she was scum with ziel

Ngekop

Where’s her vote tho

I just don't like how easily she's Sheeping you without any questions...

When i asked her for her thoughts on ziel’s list

Anemoia/Abyss

That was too easy imo

I was Null on Guillo

Ngekop

I think lily wouldve 100% acted different than she did if she was scum with ziel

We're not

3:37 a.m.

The meta on Guillo

3:37 a.m.

Unsure

Ngekop

It’s a personal satisfaction

:/

Ziel :D

I was Null on Guillo

But still too easy

Ngekop

It’s funny to have him as top wagon tho

Do you think he's Mafia?

Anemoia/Abyss

But still too easy

I am sheeping Nge

Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Guillo/ziel Guillo/sunny Lily/sunny Abyss/eoth Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/eoth

3:39 a.m.

We made it to single digits guys

3:39 a.m.

I also removed abyss/genesis

3:39 a.m.

Btw

Anemoia/Abyss

Do you think he's Mafia?

Not really

Why tho?

I dont have him even close to tr tho

Anemoia/Abyss

Why tho?

Why what

Ngekop

Not really

Then why are you even voting him?

Anemoia/Abyss

Then why are you even voting him?

Bc he rn is top wagon

Anemoia/Abyss

Why tho?

Removing me and Genesis

Oh wait

Felt like it

3:40 a.m.

I tl you now

You're voting Guillo for personal satisfaction

3:40 a.m.

Omie

3:40 a.m.

:'>

3:40 a.m.

I support you… :'D

<3

Ngekop

Felt like it

... I don't like that

3:40 a.m.

Y'know what, this vote makes me feel uneasy now

Anemoia/Abyss

... I don't like that

I forced myself to single digits and i tl you rn

Why not try to get Mafia?

Nge top poster as always

Anemoia/Abyss

Why not try to get Mafia?

Why cant guillo be mafia

Ngekop

I forced myself to single digits and i tl you rn

So?

Anemoia/Abyss

So?

So what

3:41 a.m.

I would bet this game on you not being maf with genesis

3:42 a.m.

Rn

3:42 a.m.

100%

Ngekop

Why cant guillo be mafia

Gullio can be Mafia, I'm not saying he isn't, what concerns me is that you narrow it to people who could be likely Mafia, THEN you vote someone for personal satisfaction? It makes me feel bad

Especially with how you reacted to me removing you/him

Anemoia/Abyss

Gullio can be Mafia, I'm not saying he isn't, what concerns me is that you narrow it to people who could be likely Mafia, THEN you vote someone for personal satisfaction? It makes me feel bad

Im voting, not lynching

3:42 a.m.

I likely move away from him later

3:42 a.m.

But just for the record

Ngekop

Not really

"Not really" hmmmmmmm

I won vs guillo

Anemoia/Abyss

"Not really" hmmmmmmm

Yeah

3:43 a.m.

But he could be

Ngekop

Im voting, not lynching

Ik, but it still makes my brain hurt

Uh

3:43 a.m.

You’re now going into a logical neutral approach

3:43 a.m.

I dont like that

I just realized... This is the first time I'm disagreeing with Nge...

3:44 a.m.

This feels weird

Anemoia/Abyss

Y'know what, this vote makes me feel uneasy now

Same but... Oh wellll

3:44 a.m.

Guillo is slightly Mafia Lean so…

Are you even disagreeing with me?

3:45 a.m.

Idek what am i saying that can be agreed or disagreed on

Ngekop

Are you even disagreeing with me?

Kinda, it doesn't make sense why you'd vote Gullio, it wouldn't be where my vote would be at

First time i see you concerned about a vote

3:45 a.m.

Not even when you had two votes you got really concerned

Idek why but even though you're just voting someone for the sillies, it makes me revolt

Ngekop

First time i see you concerned about a vote

Rn I'm feeling highly logical about everything

I meam

3:46 a.m.

Mean

Ngekop

Not even when you had two votes you got really concerned

Because I understood my votee

How does this make you feel

3:46 a.m.

(I just voted you)

3:47 a.m.

(You are top wagon again)

3:47 a.m.

@Anemoia/Abyss

Idrc tbh

?

3:47 a.m.

What’s so irrelevant about me voting you rn

3:47 a.m.

But is so concerning about me voting guillo

Because I know that somehow, you're going to get off of me

Ok but

3:48 a.m.

I stated i was likely going to get off of guillo

Ngekop

What’s so irrelevant about me voting you rn

Because I know it's nonsense and you want a reaction out of me/testing me/everything of the such, but then you vote Gullio and it makes my insides revolt

Bc i just wanted to make it clear i win over him

Ngekop

I stated i was likely going to get off of guillo

You did?

3:48 a.m.

I never saw that

I told you i was just voting him rn

3:48 a.m.

Not lynching him

Yeah, even though you say that, my body(mostly brain) literally feels uneasy about it...

3:50 a.m.

I know that it's not serious, but my brain is being a logic detector

Idk what do you want me to do about thay

3:51 a.m.

That

3:51 a.m.

W/e

3:51 a.m.

Let me think now

When is eod

Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Guillo/ziel Guillo/sunny Lily/ziel Lily/sunny Abyss/genesis Abyss/eoth Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/eoth

3:52 a.m.

How would scum approach me saying this

lilypetal

When is eod

Uh

3:52 a.m.

15h i think

Ngekop

Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Guillo/ziel Guillo/sunny Lily/ziel Lily/sunny Abyss/genesis Abyss/eoth Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/eoth

Lily just saw it and moved on

3:54 a.m.

Calla thought other people should be in there with her too

3:54 a.m.

I think if calla is scum it’s with ziel/gen/sunny but she probs is just not scum and that’s it

3:55 a.m.

Idek the rest tbh

3:55 a.m.

But eh the fact it didnt get much attention makes me believe it’s right

3:56 a.m.

Ngekop

Idk what do you want me to do about thay

Nothing actually

that*

It just made me feel weird that's all, but it's mostly gone now

Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Guillo/ziel Guillo/sunny Lily/sunny Abyss/eoth Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/eoth

3:57 a.m.

I feel good about this rn

3:57 a.m.

Lily can only be mafia with sunny if that’s correct

3:57 a.m.

And even lily+sunny seems a bit unlikely

3:57 a.m.

Which makes lily probs just town

Nge, do you like the game state that we're in rn?

Yes

Ok

I think you and lily are towns

I don't mind it, we are getting somewhere

Even if i cant convince myself fully about it 100% i think im right there

I also want the other's opinions though

Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Guillo/ziel Guillo/sunny Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/eoth

3:59 a.m.

Calla: 2 Guillo: 2 Ziel: 4 Genesis: 3 Sunny: 1 Eoth: 2

Ngekop

How would scum approach me saying this

Saying this?

lilypetal

Saying this?

Mhm

4:00 a.m.

It’s either right or it’s not

4:00 a.m.

I feel like scum would try to get me to elaborate more on that if i was wrong

Interesting

Maybe trying to defer but still bringing attention to it

I think most villagers just don't vare

Bc they know it is wrong

Care*

lilypetal

I think most villagers just don't vare

I know

4:01 a.m.

But scum kinda does especially by someone with presence/influence

4:01 a.m.

They know it’s wrong and they know it’s good for me to be in a state where i am just wrong

4:02 a.m.

I feel like if it’s wrong the only i could see as scum would be calla

4:02 a.m.

Maybe you if you are trying to throw off people and/or emulate town meta which i doubt highly

Ngekop

Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Guillo/ziel Guillo/sunny Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/eoth

So if ziel gets lynched and flips town

4:03 a.m.

Calla/gen Guillo/sunny Gen/eoth

4:03 a.m.

Huh

4:03 a.m.

If im correct it just makes it auto fmpov

4:03 a.m.

Which is a W

Nice

Ngekop

Calla: 2 Guillo: 2 Ziel: 4 Genesis: 3 Sunny: 1 Eoth: 2

Nvm

4:04 a.m.

If ziel flips maf it wouldnt be auto fmpov

4:04 a.m.

But like

4:04 a.m.

Cmon

4:06 a.m.

Anyways ziel -> genesis once again either just kills a scum at least

4:06 a.m.

Or confirms it being guillo+sunny

Ziel just seems Mafia like to me thh

4:06 a.m.

Tbh*

:(

Sorry Ziel but ┐⁠(⁠´⁠ー⁠｀⁠)⁠┌

This just reaffirms abyss/genesis aint it

Heh?

Abyss/eoth on the other hand COULD be

4:08 a.m.

Im p sure ziel if maf can only be with the 4 i said

Ngekop

This just reaffirms abyss/genesis aint it

Like that it's not us two together? Or together? Clarify please

You two arent the team

K

Ngekop

Im p sure ziel if maf can only be with the 4 i said

If town then ok, if Mafia, awsome

Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Guillo/ziel Guillo/sunny Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/eoth Abyss/eoth

4:10 a.m.

I think i can feel cool with that

4:10 a.m.

@lilypetal unconventionally but im tr’ing you

4:10 a.m.

Wanna help me now?

4:11 a.m.

(Particularly reading abyss’s recent posts and tell me what do you think)

im going to sleep soon but in the morning im down

Kk

hopefully i get to play before eod

Fair

i think it's in the evening tho

I personally think

4:14 a.m.

Either ziel is maf

4:14 a.m.

Or it’s guillo/sunny

Ok I'll be online in the morning, gn

5:15 a.m.

(officially me sleeping time)

Guillo

Why? I have a different PoE. Nge/Sunny/Ziel If that does not end the game i’d be surprised

interesting

6:00 a.m.

how you ended up with the same susses as me (though i wasn't specifically sussing any of them, i just said they were the ones more likely to be maf)

Guillo

My biggest question is why you have me as null when you allegedly mindmelded with me on lily/calla, from your point of view i should your toppest town. Is it because i have you in my scum leans myself?

6:16 a.m.

just because i agreed with you on one thing doesn't mean you go straight to the top of my town reads, whether you have a SL on me or not sus

Woe

7:13 a.m.

Wow

7:13 a.m.

How'd y'all end up with that?

7:14 a.m.

How am I mafia!???

7:14 a.m.

Omie ;-;

7:16 a.m.

I'm busy right now

7:16 a.m.

:^

Ngekop

Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Guillo/ziel Guillo/sunny Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/eoth Abyss/eoth

Why are you putting me in teams with the very people im sussing?

Ngekop

So i’ll just assume you’re town

You are scum. Im 100% positive that i caught you mate

You scum told so many times in the last 10 minutes of our exchange that is not even funny

Why is Guillo having a wagon LOL?

10:52 a.m.

yeah no wtf is that

Ngekop

So i’ll just assume you’re town

Starting with the fact that you allegedly townread me for my “sloppiness” and yet you are voting to execute me and asked the very source from which everything begun to vote alongside you

10:53 a.m.

But there is more!

Ngekop

If you die n1 i’ll be surprised

This statement can only come from scum who knows what the alignments of the other two people are. There is no way you can say that i will not be killed on night 1 if you don’t know what the alignments of Sunny and Ziel are for starters.

Ngekop

Bc you’ll throw d2

And then this perspective slip, you know you are not gonna be killed on night 1 already

Ngekop

So no need to kill you :p

Again, no need to kill me but you are voting to kill me even though you believe im town. So essentially you are willing to throw if you were town, the very thing you accuse me that im gonna do on day 2

I thought nge wanted the poe today to be ziel,gen,and eoth

11:00 a.m.

So idk why hes voting u at all

Because he is mafia, i have him cornered and does not know what to do with me

Yeah your not being voted out d1 LOL

11:02 a.m.

Also I think Ziel ghost voted u

11:02 a.m.

over her two scum leans?

11:02 a.m.

And u were a null read

11:02 a.m.

She didn't even respond to my question asking her why she voted ane over her more indepth read on eoth

11:03 a.m.

And then she votes u?

She is voting me because Nge asked her

r

11:03 a.m.

u

11:03 a.m.

serious

11:03 a.m.

Another one Nge says he’s got too many townreads on day 1, we all know what that means… ### he is struggling with TMI

11:05 a.m.

Do you know how many 100% townreads i have now? 0

11:06 a.m.

Leans? Yah i have a few But locked? Nah

Yeah, I have majority leans

11:06 a.m.

and then nulls

11:06 a.m.

I haven't put one person as a read yet

Can you repost them please, im gonna save them

heres my current list Ngekop - Null Sunny - Town Lean Chaos - Town Lean Ziel - Null Lily - Null Ane - Scum lean Guillo - Town lean EOTH - Scum lean

Im gonna look extremely associated with EOTH if he is scum but i dont think he is

I been debating on for awhile, the thing is

11:10 a.m.

I remember he did admit he skimmed, which probs results in those reads, and then him just pushing bc he was like yeah i got a reaction isn't really scummy in my opinion, now looking it in a different way, but I still have him there bc he hasn't gave anything else and Ik he's capable of more

Why do you null read lily again?

I just haven't seen anything that screamed town or scum to me so

11:12 a.m.

While i would push her too a town lean bc she did realize like I am town and my reactions are townie, one could say TMI to that as well

11:13 a.m.

So i just put her as null, and ill keep waiting

Look I dont think EOTH is scum and this is why (please keep an open mind).

11:16 a.m.

1) He was getting PoEd for not posting 2) Then comes in with an unpopular readlist sussing Lily and yourself. I was townreading Lily at the time. What PoEd scum enters the game channel and instead of making friends, posts an unpopular readlist to get massive pushback

hmm

11:17 a.m.

yeah it wouldnt make sense

The dude had no fear whatsoever

bc it would draw so much attention to themselves

Yup

town lean eoth

11:18 a.m.

The thing is ig is like eoth is very experienced mafia player so like i wouldn't put it past him to maybe do something like that as scum, but like would he do it in a tour and in a format that he doesn't understand

11:18 a.m.

like this is his first game here so

11:18 a.m.

yeah i think yeah

11:18 a.m.

town lean

11:18 a.m.

yeah that makes sense

11:19 a.m.

U wouldn't be risky

11:19 a.m.

I just want him to talk more thats all

@EasyOnTheHills talk more please

11:27 a.m.

Scum list

If this does not end the game please reevaluate. Ngekop Sunny Ziel

Sunny? thats new

charlie

U wouldn't be risky

Yup and this is why im sus of Ziel cause she came in being too LAMIST, too readily to make friends and get on people's good graces.

charlie

Sunny? thats new

Yah, i reaction tested them earlier and didnt like their reactions

Guillo

Yup and this is why im sus of Ziel cause she came in being too LAMIST, too readily to make friends and get on people's good graces.

One could argue that's how she's usually like, she gets pretty far as scum because of that I'm ngl, and I didn't like how when you did mention to nge that she could be potentially pocketing him, and he was like oh well shes nice. Also, the fact he mentioned Keaton

Like if Keaton was here he would be like wtf to that and say its anti-town to allow potential pocketing. Which brings to a question I have, I can see nge + sunny together, I can see nge + ziel together, but I can't see Ziel + sunny together, what are your thoughts on that.

Guillo

Yah, i reaction tested them earlier and didnt like their reactions

Where was the reaction test, I would like to see his reactions and stuff, I feel like personally sunny is playing fine, but I just want to see where you are like eh i dont think so

charlie

One could argue that's how she's usually like, she gets pretty far as scum because of that I'm ngl, and I didn't like how when you did mention to nge that she could be potentially pocketing him, and he was like oh well shes nice. Also, the fact he mentioned Keaton

Like if Keaton was here he would be like wtf to that and say its anti-town to allow potential pocketing. Which brings to a question I have, I can see nge + sunny together, I can see nge + ziel together, but I can't see Ziel + sunny together, what are your thoughts on that.

The reason I bring up Keaton, is he knows it's wrong but he allows it - Ziel's potential pocketing

11:35 a.m.

Because he knows if Keaton was here, he would have been called out right away

charlie

One could argue that's how she's usually like, she gets pretty far as scum because of that I'm ngl, and I didn't like how when you did mention to nge that she could be potentially pocketing him, and he was like oh well shes nice. Also, the fact he mentioned Keaton

Like if Keaton was here he would be like wtf to that and say its anti-town to allow potential pocketing. Which brings to a question I have, I can see nge + sunny together, I can see nge + ziel together, but I can't see Ziel + sunny together, what are your thoughts on that.

A world where Ziel and Sunny are both scum is funny because they both give me LHF vibes, that'd be such an unlucky rand

11:39 a.m.

But no, i dont have reasons to associate them. My scum reads are based on individual misdeeds

Guillo

Scum list

If this does not end the game please reevaluate. Ngekop Sunny Ziel

Not me , Nge, and Sunny, please

Okay got u that makes more sense

All are like, town in my opinion

Well we are trying to figure out everything rn

Ziel :D

All are like, town in my opinion

But why do you think Gullio is a scum lean

charlie

Also I think Ziel ghost voted u

I did for Nge

11:42 a.m.

But Ane is my Wolf Read

11:42 a.m.

And EOTH

11:43 a.m.

My internet omie

Why did Nge scum lean/read Gullio

11:43 a.m.

Do u remember

charlie

But why do you think Gullio is a scum lean

I am more of null, but Nge pushed Guillo wagon

11:43 a.m.

The meta

What is the meta

It's for personal satisfaction

11:43 a.m.

I don't agree

11:43 a.m.

But the things I do for Nge :'>

11:44 a.m.

That actually depleted my Nge siding percentage

11:44 a.m.

Because

11:44 a.m.

Whyyyyyy

11:44 a.m.

Poof

wait ur voting gullio but u dont agree

Yeah

Oh ok then

Still

11:46 a.m.

:^

11:46 a.m.

Nge supremacy

so ur sheeping nge rn

I'll change my mind about Nge in LyLo

11:46 a.m.

Maybe

11:46 a.m.

Or in a thousand years

That is one vote away from hammer

Oh wow

11:46 a.m.

I didn't follow yet

You dont act townie

Oh

11:47 a.m.

You can die

I am top wagon

11:47 a.m.

WAHHAHAHAHHAHAH

11:47 a.m.

I have mixed feelings

11:47 a.m.

Because I've been voted out my first games as well

11:47 a.m.

Still

11:47 a.m.

As long as Nge is on my side

well its not eod yet

11:48 a.m.

and u havent been voted out

I don't think it matters

11:48 a.m.

Owp

11:48 a.m.

I personally think my wagon is not pure town

11:48 a.m.

Still

yeah ane has to go

11:48 a.m.

but nobody voting ane

At least you get info out

11:48 a.m.

@Ngekop

11:49 a.m.

Will you still be satisfied with the Guillo vote?

11:49 a.m.

Pfft--

Guillo is not the vote for today at all

I agree Ane has to go

Why do you care so much about Nge

A Nge-carry is the best

11:49 a.m.

I'm self-proclaimed Nge's little sis

Ok but do you realize that you are voting me for out of the game reasons?

^

I know so I am calling @Ngekop

11:51 a.m.

Who is busy

11:51 a.m.

And am suggesting an Ane vote

11:51 a.m.

Oh okay

11:51 a.m.

I've come to a decision

11:51 a.m.

To vote Ane

Ziel, what do you claim?

Because that's what I ought to do

Guillo

Ziel, what do you claim?

Claim? Role?

Yes

I'm a normal town

11:52 a.m.

Isn't it too early for hard claims?

Then im fucking confused

Let me help you out of your confusion

11:52 a.m.

Firstly, what are you confused about??

Your treatment of Nge

Me and Nge being something aligned so hard

11:53 a.m.

Ah

11:53 a.m.

I see

You both being Masons crossed my mind

I won't say anything more than what I've said

Wait

11:53 a.m.

hold up

But you are not

I claim I am not because I am not

oh okay so ur not mason

But I believe

11:54 a.m.

I know who masons are

11:54 a.m.

Or not

I don't know

We dont need to know here

Best to keep mason talk to a min

True

I think Ziel is scum and is trying to make Nge look partnered

I am not making Nge a partner if I was hypothetically scum

So im just gonna clear Nge if Ziel flips scum

I seriously am not!!!

11:56 a.m.

I'm just sheeping Nge

11:56 a.m.

If I am to be elim

its not eod

I think voting Ane is the least I can do to help town

things can change

True

I still want a ane vote myself

charlie

its not eod

There is a hammer,next vote ends the day

Guillo

There is a hammer,next vote ends the day

oh shit why r we at hammer

I'm just exercising my rights

yeah we dont need to be at hammer stuff

charlie

oh shit why r we at hammer

Because i put her at hammer

Yeah, we really don't need to be at hammer point when EOD isn't even here yet

All this talk makes me feel the more that Guillo isn't wolf

charlie

Yeah, we really don't need to be at hammer point when EOD isn't even here yet

Why not?

Hammer is nkt beneficial

11:58 a.m.

Is it not?

Guillo

Why not?

Well, i think someone can randomly hammer and then we lose time speaking with each other

Maybe we got scum and later we give wolfs chance to overturn it

yeah u could argue that

You do not though

Like we should look for whoever is unnaturally willing to get off the wagon

But you won't know

but i learned having it be at a hammer point is like anti townie

Unless you're wolf

11:59 a.m.

:^

charlie

but i learned having it be at a hammer point is like anti townie

It really isn't

12:00 p.m.

I learned that as well

12:00 p.m.

Because

12:00 p.m.

Scum can hammer

Yeah

Depends

12:00 p.m.

But they can

12:00 p.m.

If they will

12:00 p.m.

But hammering me is wolfy in itself

anybody who hammers just kills our time

Ziel, Callahan on Anemoia… interesting

So I don't really care if I'm hammered or not at the moment

12:00 p.m.

Oh

Guillo

Ziel, Callahan on Anemoia… interesting

I only voted Ziel bc i didnt want u gone, shes still a null to me

I'm not on hammer anymore then

I rather my scum lean over a null read

Guillo is back to Null

12:01 p.m.

With the almost hammer

No hes very much a town lean

Why is Anemoia a scum lean for you?

:^

charlie

No hes very much a town lean

Ohhhhh

12:01 p.m.

Right

12:02 p.m.

I guess there's that with him not knowing

12:02 p.m.

But still

12:02 p.m.

:'>

12:02 p.m.

I never want me hammered

12:02 p.m.

Not again

12:02 p.m.

Ever

Ziel is funny, she thinks she is playing mind games, how silly

Okay then, I'm silly

12:03 p.m.

And thank you for calling me funny

12:03 p.m.

XD

12:03 p.m.

I mostly get called corny

12:03 p.m.

And weird

12:03 p.m.

Because of my jokes

Yw

Pfft--

Guillo

Why is Anemoia a scum lean for you?

Basically he seems to be overcompensating, also the fact he lied about a skill he didn't possess threw me off, so he's trying to appear more helpful than he actually is, also he's just doing a lot of IIoA, he just agrees, gives no conclusion and just has nothing to give for himself, I think I saw one post where he was like actually hmm about something. Also, he was trying WAYYYY too hard in the beginning like it was really like a wtf moment.

charlie

Basically he seems to be overcompensating, also the fact he lied about a skill he didn't possess threw me off, so he's trying to appear more helpful than he actually is, also he's just doing a lot of IIoA, he just agrees, gives no conclusion and just has nothing to give for himself, I think I saw one post where he was like actually hmm about something. Also, he was trying WAYYYY too hard in the beginning like it was really like a wtf moment.

(2)

12:04 p.m.

I feel like a witness

what does 2 mean

Because I was there when it happened

12:04 p.m.

The intensity

12:04 p.m.

Wooh

omg him trying to be like me was WILD

12:04 p.m.

and then admitting he didnt have that skill

charlie

what does 2 mean

It's like a statement of agreement

charlie

Basically he seems to be overcompensating, also the fact he lied about a skill he didn't possess threw me off, so he's trying to appear more helpful than he actually is, also he's just doing a lot of IIoA, he just agrees, gives no conclusion and just has nothing to give for himself, I think I saw one post where he was like actually hmm about something. Also, he was trying WAYYYY too hard in the beginning like it was really like a wtf moment.

What if i told you that Anemoia has a volume tell

and then also admitting he had no idea how he plays as town, which he should if he was town this game

Have you not encountered those? ;-;

Guillo

What if i told you that Anemoia has a volume tell

what is it

When he is scum, he barely posts

I was just in a game with him and he was third party and he posted a lot

Meta?

Third party is different, the dynamics are different, if you get executed as third party, it is on you and you are not letting down a team

12:06 p.m.

Im gonna iso ane though

pls do

I don't think scum being silent is a logic. Silent people are the ones who are mostly elim-d

bc the thing is, he LIED about a skill he doesn't have, u dont lie as town, well u shouldnt

Guillo

Im gonna iso ane though

Go do so

charlie

bc the thing is, he LIED about a skill he doesn't have, u dont lie as town, well u shouldnt

It looked like he was just trying to appear helpful when he cant actually help

Ziel :D

I don't think scum being silent is a logic. Silent people are the ones who are mostly elim-d

Well the thing is that when they post, they post like you so hence they dont

Guillo

Well the thing is that when they post, they post like you so hence they dont

Post like me--

12:08 p.m.

I'm so wolfy

12:08 p.m.

Am I really just inherently scummy

12:08 p.m.

:'>

12:09 p.m.

Is me sheeping Nge that bad? ;-; @Ngekop Do you want me gone?

12:09 p.m.

Sorry for the pings

yeah ur pinging a lot

12:09 p.m.

i never seen u ping before

12:09 p.m.

lol

I guess

12:10 p.m.

XD

12:10 p.m.

I can ping you

12:11 p.m.

@charlie You're amazing as well! ✨

Ziel :D

@charlie You're amazing as well! ✨

omg i love u, ur amazing too! <3

charlie

omg i love u, ur amazing too! <3

Ahhhhhhhhhh Wahhhhhhhhh I kind of didn't expect that

✨

Anemoia/Abyss

Ziel is weird, the read on you is not that good, and there is a lot of fluff, but I don't think that's scum or town behavior

Then what is it?

Anemoia/Abyss

Ziel is weird, the read on you is not that good, and there is a lot of fluff, but I don't think that's scum or town behavior

I know, I'm weird

Guillo

Then what is it?

Imagine, I'm neutral

12:13 p.m.

Imagine, I side with Mafia

12:13 p.m.

Imagine, I'm actually dead

12:13 p.m.

Oh what

12:15 p.m.

Omay

12:15 p.m.

I'm gonna be out

Anemoia/Abyss

Do you know why Gullio tr's me? I don't know why he is based off of the good evidence that everyone else brings up of me being scum

What you mean good evidence?

Safe journey, everyone

Anemoia/Abyss

Meanwhile I don't think there's too much making me towny

We're on the same corners :'>

Anemoia/Abyss

Do you know why Gullio tr's me? I don't know why he is based off of the good evidence that everyone else brings up of me being scum

Are you admitting that the reasons people scum lean you for are legit?

12:17 p.m.

@Anemoia/Abyss

SUNNY!!

oh okay Town Nge Calla Genesis EOTH Guillo Ane Ziel Lily Mafia my reads are mostly the same, guillo, ziel, ane, and genesis switched up though

What has Genesis done to deserve such spot?

Guillo

Are you admitting that the reasons people scum lean you for are legit?

SEE SEE

12:21 p.m.

He gotta go

Guillo

Are you admitting that the reasons people scum lean you for are legit?

He is

12:21 p.m.

But also saying he's wrong

12:21 p.m.

And

12:22 p.m.

That's right

Ngekop

Bc i just wanted to make it clear i win over him

This shit is so arrogant that i would shoot you right now if i was a day vigilante.

Wrongly wrong-ing the wrong is wrong

12:22 p.m.

But correctly correcting the incorrect is correct

12:22 p.m.

Whu

Ziel

12:22 p.m.

Can

12:22 p.m.

You

12:23 p.m.

Stop

Okay

12:23 p.m.

Ye

Trolling

Bye

Ty

Guillo

What has Genesis done to deserve such spot?

already explained that it's literally two messages down

WAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHHA Last laugh.

Ngekop

Or it’s guillo/sunny

Marking this

12:23 p.m.

Wtf are y’all doing

figuring the game out

Going for PoE

12:24 p.m.

Nge, why are you teaming me up with the people i sus?

You put someone at L-1

12:24 p.m.

That’s just stupid

Yes i did

Ngekop

That’s just stupid

(2)

Ngekop

You put someone at L-1

its okay i unvoted

Ngeeee

Guillo

Nge, why are you teaming me up with the people i sus?

Bc you’d sus your partner and idt the rest would

You're heree

Be teamed with you

Now I don't wanna go

;-;

Ngekop

Bc you’d sus your partner and idt the rest would

That is what i thought

Nge is town

I personally raise the Ane wagon

Ok i’ll catch up

Ziel :D

I personally raise the Ane wagon

I dont

12:26 p.m.

But

Ow

12:26 p.m.

Kie

12:26 p.m.

Okie

12:26 p.m.

Let me catch up

I am in the Ane wagon

12:26 p.m.

I think it's the most reasonable

12:26 p.m.

Among all other wagons

why is that?

Ziel is sheeping you for OGI reasons Nge

12:27 p.m.

I would not trust that

Guillo

You are scum. Im 100% positive that i caught you mate

You scum told so many times in the last 10 minutes of our exchange that is not even funny

You confuse me a fair bit ngl

trying to figure out why Ane is town too ppl rn meme_DTNohgirl

Although Guillo is Null right now, they're slightly leaning Mafia to me, being defending Ane without catching up But I still Null Guillo because he didn't know why yet

12:27 p.m.

Anyways

12:27 p.m.

Good night people

12:27 p.m.

I need to catch up on my sleep

Ziel :D

Although Guillo is Null right now, they're slightly leaning Mafia to me, being defending Ane without catching up But I still Null Guillo because he didn't know why yet

Excuse me?

Guillo

Starting with the fact that you allegedly townread me for my “sloppiness” and yet you are voting to execute me and asked the very source from which everything begun to vote alongside you

I mean you got to 2 votes

12:28 p.m.

I dint

12:28 p.m.

Dodnt

12:28 p.m.

Dodnt

12:28 p.m.

Didnt

12:28 p.m.

:p

So?

That means nothing ik

;P

But like it’s funny to me

Do you think this is a war for territories? Grow up mate

Guillo

Excuse me?

Whatt

Guillo

This statement can only come from scum who knows what the alignments of the other two people are. There is no way you can say that i will not be killed on night 1 if you don’t know what the alignments of Sunny and Ziel are for starters.

Idt they are the team tho

12:29 p.m.

So i think you are at best 1/3

Ziel is scum lolcatting

Guillo

Again, no need to kill me but you are voting to kill me even though you believe im town. So essentially you are willing to throw if you were town, the very thing you accuse me that im gonna do on day 2

I didnt ping people to vote you and i didnt put you at risk

whats lolcatting again

Lolcatting?

12:30 p.m.

Meow

12:30 p.m.

XD

Or trolling, which is unforgivable in a tournament

ohh

12:31 p.m.

I think thats how she usually is tho

12:31 p.m.

thats the thing

12:31 p.m.

I dont think shes trolling at all, thats her personality

It's Guillo's first time playing with me

Guillo

Another one Nge says he’s got too many townreads on day 1, we all know what that means… ### he is struggling with TMI

I never struggle with TMI im better than that lol

He wouldn't know

Ngekop

I never struggle with TMI im better than that lol

W

Ngekop

I didnt ping people to vote you and i didnt put you at risk

Still voted me even though you townread me, i put Ziel at risk because i sus her

Guillo

Do you know how many 100% townreads i have now? 0

Same?

12:31 p.m.

I said that

No

12:32 p.m.

I remember you saying you townread a lot of people

Nge and Guillo def not maf togeth

12:32 p.m.

Wooh

Duh

I like Guillo's attitude omie

12:33 p.m.

Rawr

Ok i apologize, that was unnecessary

;-;

12:33 p.m.

Okay

12:34 p.m.

Bye people

@PoinsettiaBottom 🎅 why do you think Ane is scum?

Well do u think Ane is scum Guillo after viewing his ISO

charlie

One could argue that's how she's usually like, she gets pretty far as scum because of that I'm ngl, and I didn't like how when you did mention to nge that she could be potentially pocketing him, and he was like oh well shes nice. Also, the fact he mentioned Keaton

Like if Keaton was here he would be like wtf to that and say its anti-town to allow potential pocketing. Which brings to a question I have, I can see nge + sunny together, I can see nge + ziel together, but I can't see Ziel + sunny together, what are your thoughts on that.

Callahan being impossible to cooperate with

12:37 p.m.

She might be town fr huh

Ngekop

Callahan being impossible to cooperate with

12:37 p.m.

LOL

Pfft--

when does the day end?

Okay I'm really leaving now

SUNNY!!

when does the day end?

Helloooo What do you feel about getting paired with me XD

charlie

yeah ane has to go

No

SUNNY!!

when does the day end?

i think 6 or 7

Ngekop

No

name one townie thing he has done

Ziel :D

Helloooo What do you feel about getting paired with me XD

?? What

Ziel :D

I'm self-proclaimed Nge's little sis

<3

charlie

name one townie thing he has done

Ane cant even name one townie thing he has done BC I ASKED HIM BEFORE AND HE COUDLNT TELL ME

Guillo

You both being Masons crossed my mind

Not the case move on

charlie

One could argue that's how she's usually like, she gets pretty far as scum because of that I'm ngl, and I didn't like how when you did mention to nge that she could be potentially pocketing him, and he was like oh well shes nice. Also, the fact he mentioned Keaton

Like if Keaton was here he would be like wtf to that and say its anti-town to allow potential pocketing. Which brings to a question I have, I can see nge + sunny together, I can see nge + ziel together, but I can't see Ziel + sunny together, what are your thoughts on that.

I got one game like that as scum and I only made it far because of people being niceeee Wahhh

I still lost but I deserved it :'>

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I also feel like I am now Oh wow

SUNNY!!

?? What

What do you feel about them saying we're paired

charlie

Well do u think Ane is scum Guillo after viewing his ISO

Well i dont townread him now, nor i scum read him, i need answers from him

Does that make you believe I am more mafia or not?

12:42 p.m.

(Asking in my perspective where you are town.)

12:42 p.m.

I'll look back

12:42 p.m.

Neksjkwjcjwk

12:42 p.m.

Bye bye

12:42 p.m.

Oh wait

12:43 p.m.

I don't even think I'll survive to that point

12:43 p.m.

Pfft--

I dont know Ziel

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Guillo, didn't see you answer this

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I feel the mason thingy was a genuine comment

12:43 p.m.

Which is way more likely to come from a cit than anything else

Like would you troll the game when you are PoEd

Ngekop

I feel the mason thingy was a genuine comment

How do u not know there is masons in this game, like the whole setup is around the masons

Im starting to thing Zeil is just TWTBAW

12:44 p.m.

THINK

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I’d tell you that’s wrong btw

Ngekop

Which is way more likely to come from a cit than anything else

Oh, is it??

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How tf do you know

12:44 p.m.

You havent played with him as scum

oop

Ngekop

How tf do you know

Because he played in Deck Mafia as scum, that's howv

Guillo

Im starting to thing Zeil is just TWTBAW

I believe I have a bloodline of wolves… We lick our wounds when they bleed…

12:45 p.m.

Oh, those are vampires

charlie

bc the thing is, he LIED about a skill he doesn't have, u dont lie as town, well u shouldnt

Bruh my brain

SUNNY!!

Guillo, didn't see you answer this

@Guillo

Guillo

THINK

Do Wolves have a brain capable of thinking? Hmm…

12:46 p.m.

Actually nevermind that

12:46 p.m.

Good night

12:46 p.m.

I'll leave so I can get some sleep

12:46 p.m.

Ahhhhhhhhhh

charlie

Where was the reaction test, I would like to see his reactions and stuff, I feel like personally sunny is playing fine, but I just want to see where you are like eh i dont think so

ISO me, i posted some Elsa Frozen gifs, that is the exchange.

Guillo

ISO me, i posted some Elsa Frozen gifs, that is the exchange.

siuwehfiuerh

Guillo

Ziel is sheeping you for OGI reasons Nge

She stopped tho

I need to step off, my head is hurting

Guillo

Still voted me even though you townread me, i put Ziel at risk because i sus her

Tbf i never said i tr’d you, i just implied i tl’d you which was the case

12:49 p.m.

And the reason im struggling is indeed bc i have too many tl’s but no tr’s

Guillo

@PoinsettiaBottom 🎅 why do you think Ane is scum?

Wat

charlie

How do u not know there is masons in this game, like the whole setup is around the masons

Exactly

12:52 p.m.

As mafia i doubt he’d ever forget that

12:52 p.m.

And i also doubt he’d be that bold to fake that comment

12:52 p.m.

Especially as reacting to smth else

12:53 p.m.

If he’s maf then he took advantage of the fact he genuinely forgot about masons

12:53 p.m.

But i dont see how could he do that as maf

12:53 p.m.

Bc mason hunting is like

12:53 p.m.

Really important

12:53 p.m.

And mafia literally has a night 1 rolecop that is exclusively for that

Guillo

Im starting to thing Zeil is just TWTBAW

Dont go there

Guillo

Because he played in Deck Mafia as scum, that's howv

Ooo

I see him actually just dumbtelling, and his overall gameplay is scum, I don't think a mirco read like that should take away on the fact he is playing very scummy rn

I just defer on him playing very scummy

12:59 p.m.

Ziel going to sleep

12:59 p.m.

Is really unfortunate

1:01 p.m.

@lilypetal hi

Sup

1:02 p.m.

When is eod

6h

Awesome

1:02 p.m.

I'm gonna probably sleep a bit more ping me with stuff u wanna talk abt I'll ping u when I'm around

Kk

1:03 p.m.

Where did everyone go

1:05 p.m.

The dedication callahan is putting into this if she is scum is huge

1:06 p.m.

I still want to hear other people’s opinions on abyss’s approach regarding me and guillo

1:06 p.m.

With that vote

1:07 p.m.

I liked his concern but i didnt like the logic perspective thingy

1:12 p.m.

Sunny had a great start but has fallen off a bit hard since tbh

1:15 p.m.

But yeah if i had to give a winning town core of 4 rn (hoping i dont include both masons in here and hence it does make it auto) i’d go me/calla/lily/abyss

1:15 p.m.

And close to that guillo/eoth (guillo’s point on eoth makes sense tbh)

I think sunny has had towny processes

I dont want abyss

2:04 p.m.

Wtf is this

2:04 p.m.

@Ziel :D can you vote someone else pls

2:10 p.m.

Hi calla

Ngekop

But yeah if i had to give a winning town core of 4 rn (hoping i dont include both masons in here and hence it does make it auto) i’d go me/calla/lily/abyss

How does abyss make it into here when the only thing u said he’s town in is his dumb tell?

Ngekop

Hi calla

Also hi

lilypetal

I think sunny has had towny processes

This

2:13 p.m.

I feel as if Sunny was scum they would just coast after being town read but they have been giving their thoughts and reads

I wont comment further on sunny

2:14 p.m.

He wont go today either way

2:14 p.m.

Most of your points on abyss are flawed at best btw

2:14 p.m.

His dumbtell is 100% genuine

2:15 p.m.

And i do think it’s more likely to come from a cit perspective

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(this still annoys me)

2:15 p.m.

Anyways hi

Anemoia/Abyss

(this still annoys me)

I KNOW

2:15 p.m.

Hi

I'm backreading

Anemoia/Abyss

(this still annoys me)

Bc u litterally were LOL?

2:17 p.m.

If u actually read like u said u were

2:17 p.m.

U would know

charlie

bc the thing is, he LIED about a skill he doesn't have, u dont lie as town, well u shouldnt

Like I said, I WANTED too, I never said that I was an expert at it or anything.

Ngekop

And i do think it’s more likely to come from a cit perspective

Yeah so him as cit just totally forgot there is masons in a mason surronded theme

2:17 p.m.

Good to know

Anemoia/Abyss

Like I said, I WANTED too, I never said that I was an expert at it or anything.

So ur basically trying to waste everybody’s time good to know

Anemoia/Abyss

I'm backreading

Hi backreading

charlie

Bc u litterally were LOL?

He literally wasnt

Yes he was

You arent a unicorn yk, people can try to read others by interacting with them

Okay this doesn’t matter but at the end of the day, he can’t do something but says he can

Ngekop

You arent a unicorn yk, people can try to read others by interacting with them

He can’t do it tho so why lie

He never said he could

2:19 p.m.

He said he wanted to

He litterally

2:19 p.m.

Was like I’m going to interact with ppl

How will he be able to do so if he doesnt try in the first place

charlie

Was like I’m going to interact with ppl

Yes

2:19 p.m.

So?

Ngekop

How will he be able to do so if he doesnt try in the first place

Maybe when if he can actually know how to do it??

2:19 p.m.

Bc he doesn’t

charlie

So ur basically trying to waste everybody’s time good to know

Lmao?

He litterally admitted he doesn’t

2:19 p.m.

Know how to do it

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Many things like I seemed to look like I was trying too hard(I just want to go into the next round of games tbh)

I

charlie

Yeah so him as cit just totally forgot there is masons in a mason surronded theme

Way more likely than as maf

Anemoia/Abyss

Many things like I seemed to look like I was trying too hard(I just want to go into the next round of games tbh)

Then maybe not agree with everything everybody says

2:20 p.m.

And give ur own opinions

2:20 p.m.

Instead of just coasting

charlie

Maybe when if he can actually know how to do it??

HOW WILL HE LEARN IF YOU DONT LET HIM TRY IN THE FIRST PLACE

Ngekop

HOW WILL HE LEARN IF YOU DONT LET HIM TRY IN THE FIRST PLACE

HE NEEDS TO ASK HOW TO DO IT U CANT DO SOMETHING IF U DONT KNOW HOW TO DO IT

2:21 p.m.

LIKE WHAT DID HE REALLY THINK HE WAS GOING TO DO IF HE HAS NO IDEA HOW TO DO IT

charlie

And give ur own opinions

He has

No all I see is I agree and following what most ppl think

charlie

HE NEEDS TO ASK HOW TO DO IT U CANT DO SOMETHING IF U DONT KNOW HOW TO DO IT

It isnt a recipe

2:21 p.m.

He can learn by trying on his own

He couldn’t even tell me how he plays as town

After all interacting with people

2:22 p.m.

Is just a tool

Which u would think he would know if he was town this game

That you can only use into your favor

2:22 p.m.

The reasons im not locked into him town

2:22 p.m.

Have not even anything to do with what you’re saying

2:23 p.m.

I also dont think he can be partnered with anyone but eoth

This convo is useless hes scum

Be real

charlie

This convo is useless hes scum

Lmao

charlie

Then maybe not agree with everything everybody says

Well I don't know if I was overdoing it :/

2:24 p.m.

Also yikes the vote count

Calla/guillo/lily/ziel/gen arent scum with him

2:24 p.m.

It has to be either sunny or eoth

2:24 p.m.

And you tl both dummy

2:24 p.m.

He hasnt just agreed with people

2:25 p.m.

Guillo’s votes are lowkey borderline twtbaw

2:25 p.m.

Idk what to make of that

Ngekop

HOW WILL HE LEARN IF YOU DONT LET HIM TRY IN THE FIRST PLACE

No need to defend that, that much lol

Abyss wanna vote him? His votes are all over the place

2:26 p.m.

@Anemoia/Abyss ^^

2:26 p.m.

Why are you

2:27 p.m.

Dipping

2:27 p.m.

Brooooo

I'm back

Hi back

Patients

2:27 p.m.

Oop

2:27 p.m.

Patience

Not about that

Ngekop

Abyss wanna vote him? His votes are all over the place

Gullio you mean?

But w/e

Anemoia/Abyss

Gullio you mean?

Yes

Ngekop

Guillo’s votes are lowkey borderline twtbaw

^

W/e? What does that mean?

In the span of an hour

Anemoia/Abyss

W/e? What does that mean?

Whatever

Ngekop

In the span of an hour

Ngekop -> ziel -> abyss

My gosh there are so many terms I still don't know

This progression just makes no sense

Ah

2:28 p.m.

Why is he on me tho?

Especially silently

I STILL need to read back some more

Anemoia/Abyss

Why is he on me tho?

He iso’d you

2:29 p.m.

Didn’t tr you

2:29 p.m.

Didnt sr you either

2:29 p.m.

Lol

2:29 p.m.

So that’s

2:29 p.m.

‍♂️

Ngekop

Abyss wanna vote him? His votes are all over the place

This is very level 0 logic for someone like you mate

2:33 p.m.

Since when votes all over the place are a synonym of scumminess?

Sigh

Being all over the place means someone is hunting?

Imma just say i didnt intend for you to come in

2:34 p.m.

In this meantime

Every time i convince myself that you are just town, you post shit like that

Also since this guy went backreading and did nothing since no point in keeping it up

Guillo

Every time i convince myself that you are just town, you post shit like that

Lol

2:35 p.m.

What do you think my intention was

2:35 p.m.

Behind telling that to him

2:35 p.m.

At that moment

2:35 p.m.

In that context

Ngekop

What do you think my intention was

To build a wagon on me while i was away.

2:36 p.m.

It is probable that i miss eod, depending on the drugs i take

❌

Well I'm the wagon so if that's what it was, I didn't work

Drugs as in medicine

Guillo

To build a wagon on me while i was away.

Your final lines about me were saying im town

2:37 p.m.

Dont you think i as scum would want to keep it that way until eod

2:37 p.m.

And then just kill you

2:37 p.m.

(Fypov)

2:37 p.m.

If im scum knowing you are town then i know how swingy you are being

2:38 p.m.

And hence how you can be a threat again at any point

Fair, if i was scum in your position i would just kill you at night

2:38 p.m.

But you are not me

So? Im not dumb lol

And you pride yourself to own discord mafia

Imma back read a little more

Guillo

And you pride yourself to own discord mafia

Not as much as you think

Wel- it's more of a skim

And i dont play suboptimally unless it has a purpose

2:39 p.m.

Im at 1% btw

Anemoia/Abyss

Wel- it's more of a skim

I made you some questions

And my phone is getting slow

2:39 p.m.

So i might stop talking at any time

I don't think I read through them all, that's where I am right now Gullio

Anyways irrelevant

2:40 p.m.

Rn

2:40 p.m.

The fact guillo was here indicating he might just be intending to potentially switch that vote is relieving

2:41 p.m.

Do tell me how can abyss be maf with someone not named sunny or eoth

2:41 p.m.

You love team reads

2:41 p.m.

So pls enlighten me there

I might keep my vote where it is, i need answers from Ane

Guillo

I might keep my vote where it is, i need answers from Ane

I know

2:42 p.m.

I said you intended to potentially switch

how would i be partnered with abyss? because i haven't voted them?

Bc there is nothing making it impossible for you to be partners yet

2:43 p.m.

Same for eoth

2:43 p.m.

While the rest imo are never teamed with him

SUNNY!!

how would i be partnered with abyss? because i haven't voted them?

This unpartners you from Ane actually, cause i didnt know that was the case, no scum is gonna admit they have never voted another scum partner

Guillo

This unpartners you from Ane actually, cause i didnt know that was the case, no scum is gonna admit they have never voted another scum partner

Why not

2:44 p.m.

It’s an observation anyone can make

No

Yes it is

2:45 p.m.

Especially once either of them flips

2:45 p.m.

If abyss flips then imo someone wouldve pointed that out in the following days sooner or later

From a psychological stand point, scum dont want the attention on themselves that they have never voted one another, in fact, scum distance on day 1, they vote each other and make sure everyone sees it

2:46 p.m.

So no, sunny and ane are not a team

Guillo

I might keep my vote where it is, i need answers from Ane

Yeah one second

it also doesn't help that im voting ziel with ane

️ did ane give a reason onto why they voted ziel?

SUNNY!!

it also doesn't help that im voting ziel with ane

️ did ane give a reason onto why they voted ziel?

Sr

2:47 p.m.

I Sr them

Guillo

Then what is it?

Now currently I think it's more scum behavior, you can find out why if you ISO me

2:48 p.m.

And you did so

Guillo

So no, sunny and ane are not a team

I agree with the conclusion, just not with the reason

2:49 p.m.

I rn would vote ziel over abyss

2:50 p.m.

But i dont want abyss and im not convinced i’d want ziel

Guillo

Are you admitting that the reasons people scum lean you for are legit?

Well idk if I'm being overwhatever or smth, I need to look at the points to see if i can actually refute them. All I can say from my memory is that I'm trying my hardest in this game so that's why I was trying so much at the beginning and I never "froze" in this game

Even if abyss is maf i can afford leaving him one more day alive given his lack of potential teammates

charlie

He gotta go

Idk why you're wanting to get rid of me so badly istg

She is stubborn af you should know this by now

2:51 p.m.

Lol

RUANCYWNCYAKCTFCOQCYAN

2:51 p.m.

screaming

You are

2:51 p.m.

Dont deny it

2:51 p.m.

I am too

A little bit

Nothing wrong with being stubborn

2:52 p.m.

Except when you’re wrong

2:52 p.m.

Which you are rn

2:52 p.m.

But it’s ok

2:52 p.m.

@charlie tell me one possible partner of abyss that isnt eoth or sunny

2:52 p.m.

ONE

Anemoia/Abyss

Well idk if I'm being overwhatever or smth, I need to look at the points to see if i can actually refute them. All I can say from my memory is that I'm trying my hardest in this game so that's why I was trying so much at the beginning and I never "froze" in this game

But you said that people scum leaning you had good arguments (paraphrase), how can you say this if you have not even looked at the points to refute them?

But I don’t understand how one single thing excuses the fact his overall game is scum? If he truely is town, I will apologize, but I hope he never plays like this again if he is town, because there is nothing townie about him in my eyes.

charlie

But I don’t understand how one single thing excuses the fact his overall game is scum? If he truely is town, I will apologize, but I hope he never plays like this again if he is town, because there is nothing townie about him in my eyes.

His overall game isnt scum

Ngekop

@charlie tell me one possible partner of abyss that isnt eoth or sunny

You actually? I just don’t understand how you are excusing his whole gameplay over one comment

charlie

You actually? I just don’t understand how you are excusing his whole gameplay over one comment

Yeah sure

He couldn’t even tell me a single townie thing he has done

Ngekop

Even if abyss is maf i can afford leaving him one more day alive given his lack of potential teammates

Bruh what? If we think be is mafia, we kill mafia

I would 100% limit the potential partners of my partner this hard

Idk what that means

Guillo

Bruh what? If we think be is mafia, we kill mafia

He isnt any close to being my hardest sr

Ngekop

I would 100% limit the potential partners of my partner this hard

And then defend him this hard as well

charlie

Idk what that means

Im telling you

He could be the special mafia role

charlie

He could be the special mafia role

The special mafia role is bs to me

You need him to find masons

2:54 p.m.

Sam’s game with Dec as his parnter

2:54 p.m.

Perfect example of that

If im goon i wont prioritize my partner over me

2:54 p.m.

Just bc of that ability

charlie

Sam’s game with Dec as his parnter

When did this happen

Ngekop

When did this happen

Keatons first game

2:55 p.m.

Remember

It wasnt with dec

2:55 p.m.

It was vee

Oh

Ngekop

He isnt any close to being my hardest sr

Ok but what you said is different, you said even if he was mafia we let him for the lack of potential partners he has and sorry but no, if we believe he is mafia, we execute him and worry about the partner later

Oops

And that’s different

2:55 p.m.

That setup had potential tracker AND jailkeeper

Guillo

Because he played in Deck Mafia as scum, that's howv

Did I? I don't remember that...

Having two masons in the game fucks up scum bc they have two confirmed town

Like 2/3 setups had mafia screwed if rolecop went down early and mafia didnt kill pr

charlie

Having two masons in the game fucks up scum bc they have two confirmed town

So?

2:56 p.m.

You have 3 kills

2:56 p.m.

You can kill them then

Not if u don’t know who masons r?

You only get one check

2:56 p.m.

That’s

Oh

Not that relevant

2:56 p.m.

It’s a night 1 rolecop

Anemoia/Abyss

Did I? I don't remember that...

You dont because you left the game without a warning

2:57 p.m.

You just left

It literally just makes it at best 4 checks over 3

Why is this game so town sided then if it’s only night one

charlie

Why is this game so town sided then if it’s only night one

It isnt

charlie

So ur basically trying to waste everybody’s time good to know

Idk why you're so irritated about this lol

Mason9er is lowkey balanced as it usually is

2:57 p.m.

And how it usually is

Anemoia/Abyss

Idk why you're so irritated about this lol

Bc ur creating FILLER??

Is with 2 goons

charlie

Bc ur creating FILLER??

Not really

2:57 p.m.

He sr’d ziel and said why

charlie

And give ur own opinions

I have

He didnt like my vote on guillo and said why

Why did he even scum read ziel again

2:58 p.m.

Is it the same as what everybody else thinks

2:58 p.m.

Probs

charlie

Why did he even scum read ziel again

So you havent even read that

2:58 p.m.

Good to know

I forgot?

2:58 p.m.

Oh it’s bc she’s weird

Anyways let's not talk about the thingy because it's waste of time, I just wanted to let out my opinion

2:58 p.m.

Yeah that’s a good reason

@SUNNY!! can you not

2:59 p.m.

Imma hammer if no one unvoted

2:59 p.m.

So unvote rn

2:59 p.m.

Unvotes*

Don’t

2:59 p.m.

Hammervv

2:59 p.m.

??

Then unvote

2:59 p.m.

You have

Tf?

5 minutes

2:59 p.m.

If no one unvotes in 5 minutes i hammer

2:59 p.m.

Go ahead u won’t dare too

I promise on my discord account

charlie

Go ahead u won’t dare too

I already promised

3:00 p.m.

That’s like a personal commitment

3:00 p.m.

I cant get myself outside from

3:00 p.m.

Im telling y’all i just made this stronger than what i can usually handle

3:00 p.m.

I’ll hammer in 4 minutes

3:00 p.m.

If no one unvotes

3:00 p.m.

Not reaction test

3:00 p.m.

Legit serious

3:00 p.m.

I DONT want to hammer

Ngekop

If im goon i wont prioritize my partner over me

Yup unless that other person is someone i consider better than me. In other words, someone i 100% believe they can carry

But i hate this state

Guillo

Yup unless that other person is someone i consider better than me. In other words, someone i 100% believe they can carry

>=

3:01 p.m.

Tbh

3:01 p.m.

But yes

3:01 p.m.

Which no offense

3:01 p.m.

Wouldnt ever be the case with abyss

3:01 p.m.

@SUNNY!! im serious

3:01 p.m.

Unvote

3:01 p.m.

3 minutes

Idk why u r threating to hammer like??

Bc

3:01 p.m.

You dont want a hammer

3:01 p.m.

I dont want abyss

I

Guillo

But you said that people scum leaning you had good arguments (paraphrase), how can you say this if you have not even looked at the points to refute them?

Because at the time(I forgot the points, everyone should know that I have bad memory about now) I couldn't refute them/didn't really know how to refute the statements

OMFG

2 minutes

3:02 p.m.

Someone unvotes or abyss goes (spoiler alert: will most likely flip town and if he is maf then we just win but idts)

What happened to hammering early is stupid?

Ty guillo

Guillo

What happened to hammering early is stupid?

It is

3:02 p.m.

So is voting abyss today imo

Then why the countdown

Guillo

Then why the countdown

To either force someone to unvote

3:03 p.m.

Or get people to be as annoyed as i am

3:03 p.m.

I also warned it

3:03 p.m.

And lowkey im a hammerer

Lol

3:03 p.m.

So am i

3:03 p.m.

Geezus

Yeah

3:03 p.m.

So

You are like my clone

I dont want a person im not voting and i dont wany

3:03 p.m.

At L-1

3:04 p.m.

want*

Okay well I want this person

I’ll do whatever is in my hands for abyss not to go d1

U want Gullio out?

3:04 p.m.

Which is why??

Not really

Anemoia/Abyss

Because at the time(I forgot the points, everyone should know that I have bad memory about now) I couldn't refute them/didn't really know how to refute the statements

Give me a readlist please

Then why r u voting them

3:04 p.m.

Who do u want out over abyss

Oh i def would probs vote guillo before voting abyss

3:05 p.m.

Im not voting bc idk who to vote rn

Ngekop

Oh i def would probs vote guillo before voting abyss

Huh?

Ziel is def an option

3:05 p.m.

But if i vote ziel

3:05 p.m.

I kinda make it 3-3 in those two

You are saying you townread Abyss more than me?

And limit today to ziel or abyss

Guillo

You are saying you townread Abyss more than me?

I think abyss is more likely to end up being town than you

3:06 p.m.

Bc i respect your scum game way more tbf

Ngekop

I think abyss is more likely to end up being town than you

Towncase Abyss then?

I tl both rn

Guillo

Towncase Abyss then?

I did already state my thoughts

3:06 p.m.

Not only the dumbtell

We are all so creative in here

His approach to my vote on guillo

3:06 p.m.

Felt like genuinely smth bothering him

3:07 p.m.

And idt he would be bothered by that as scum

3:07 p.m.

What i disliked there

So you'd execute me first out of respect for my scum game? Lol A fear lynch?

Was he took a logic approach

Guillo

So you'd execute me first out of respect for my scum game? Lol A fear lynch?

No

I dont know how to feel about that? Flattered or Annoyed?

3:09 p.m.

Im not voting anemoia today

For the simple fact that my two scum reads are on it

If i had a tied vote in you/abyss tho i would vote you bc i tl both but i think you are more likely to end up being maf than him

Guillo

Im not voting anemoia today

<3

How about we execute Ziel?

Yrah sorry about that

3:13 p.m.

Oops

SUNNY!!

What r u thinking

Anemoia/Abyss

Yrah sorry about that

Huh?

It didn't reply to the message-

Oh ok

It was fore leaving deck mafia

Rip

3:14 p.m.

I do remember you talked to me about it

3:14 p.m.

So idk if guillo actually has meta on you

3:15 p.m.

Sunny

3:15 p.m.

If you sr ziel

3:15 p.m.

Why are you voting abyss

3:15 p.m.

Ik you dont tr abyss either

3:16 p.m.

But you had ziel even lower iirc

My screaming may have convinced them nods

So

Maybe do yelling next time

Anemoia/Abyss

Maybe do yelling next time

Yeah ur right

Screaming does hurt the throat sometimes

Me typing in caps

Anyways more backreading... Yay

@genesischaos hi

charlie

Oh it’s bc she’s weird

Have you even ISO'd me? You'd know more on why if you actually did

3:18 p.m.

You can't just sum it all up to one thing I said

3:18 p.m.

Oops

3:19 p.m.

Wait... Not oops

Anemoia/Abyss

Have you even ISO'd me? You'd know more on why if you actually did

She clearly has not

3:20 p.m.

Guillo/ziel indeed might not be it

3:20 p.m.

Anyways

3:20 p.m.

I think this needs to go without saying but masons dont out unless you seem like you’re getting voted at ANY point in the game

Ngekop

I’ll do whatever is in my hands for abyss not to go d1

You're really not wanting me to go D1

Anemoia/Abyss

You're really not wanting me to go D1

Indeed

Guillo

Give me a readlist please

Hold on a sec

Ngekop

I think this needs to go without saying but masons dont out unless you seem like you’re getting voted at ANY point in the game

This also includes F5 lylo if we ml d1 and d2

3:21 p.m.

Ofc no one votes there

3:22 p.m.

Without asking x person to claim

charlie

What r u thinking

im leaning less towards ziel being scum, still don't TL her though ISOed ane and im starting to think they're more scummy; keeps saying they're going to backread but keeps replying to convos and repeating the same things, https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1170072608901963806 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1170072608901963806 found these weird too, this just comes across as them being nervous or aggressive since it's phrased in a way where they aren't looking for an actual answer

their SR on ziel are things that have already been noticed and brought up, nothing really unique in there

Funny

SUNNY!!

im leaning less towards ziel being scum, still don't TL her though ISOed ane and im starting to think they're more scummy; keeps saying they're going to backread but keeps replying to convos and repeating the same things, https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1170072608901963806 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1170072608901963806 found these weird too, this just comes across as them being nervous or aggressive since it's phrased in a way where they aren't looking for an actual answer

their SR on ziel are things that have already been noticed and brought up, nothing really unique in there

Guillo

Funny

Mhm

Because your initial scum leans on Calla and Lily were based on things already said back then

3:25 p.m.

You were echoing my thoughts

Ok

Sure I was

Yes, you were, so how come that is scum indicative when you yourself have done it?

Im p sure

3:26 p.m.

Eoth and genesis would vote ziel over abyss

3:26 p.m.

So im still not particularly worried about that

Oh

Guillo

Yes, you were, so how come that is scum indicative when you yourself have done it?

I didn't do that,, I initially SLed Calla and Lily due to it seeming like they were partners, with the voting habits and lily asking for reads on calla, asking calla to vote with them, bla bla if that's someone you noticed as well at the time, i don't see how that matters

@genesischaos @EasyOnTheHills wya btw

@EasyOnTheHills where are you? You are acting like scum who is happy that town is defending you, ngl

SUNNY!!

I didn't do that,, I initially SLed Calla and Lily due to it seeming like they were partners, with the voting habits and lily asking for reads on calla, asking calla to vote with them, bla bla if that's someone you noticed as well at the time, i don't see how that matters

Right, which came after i said so

Guillo

Right, which came after i said so

~~And with the reasons eoth gave~~

And the thing is, you agreed with my reads on them but you null read me instead of townleaning me even though we were allegedly mindmelding

Imma just say

You already asked why I did that And I answered you

Sunny can easily be mafia

So there is that hole in your logic

If i die tn

3:30 p.m.

That’s legacy frfr

SUNNY!!

You already asked why I did that And I answered you

And i dont belueve you

Sunny can easily be mafia

Yes

I can't control whether you believe me or not

‍♂️ That's your opinion

SUNNY!!

I can't control whether you believe me or not

‍♂️ That's your opinion

It is not just an opinion, it is evidence of holes in your logic, evidence of inconsistencies

if you say so

SUNNY!!

im leaning less towards ziel being scum, still don't TL her though ISOed ane and im starting to think they're more scummy; keeps saying they're going to backread but keeps replying to convos and repeating the same things, https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1170072608901963806 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1170072608901963806 found these weird too, this just comes across as them being nervous or aggressive since it's phrased in a way where they aren't looking for an actual answer

their SR on ziel are things that have already been noticed and brought up, nothing really unique in there

Not nervousness or aggressiveness, if anything I was annoyed

And also there is nothing wrong with saying they are gonna backread and decide they wanna real time.

the main thing is that they keep repeating, and then come back with little to nothing

So in your opinion, he has posted only garbage?

Anemoia/Abyss

Hold on a sec

Yah im waiting mate

Guillo

So in your opinion, he has posted only garbage?

some of it the other stuff just seems like reads achieved by skimming or not actually reading and taking pieces from others before you use the same argument, my reads on calla and lily were from me actually reading up, whether they were similar to yours really isn't a big thing to me? if i noticed something too, i can also point it out

‍♂️ you don't have complete ownership on those reads

3:42 p.m.

on my read with ane, while also not having much behind the reads on ziel, i feel it's something that has been talked about A LOT, and could easily have been brought up quickly and used to make themselves look less scummy by at least having one read

SUNNY!!

some of it the other stuff just seems like reads achieved by skimming or not actually reading and taking pieces from others before you use the same argument, my reads on calla and lily were from me actually reading up, whether they were similar to yours really isn't a big thing to me? if i noticed something too, i can also point it out

‍♂️ you don't have complete ownership on those reads

My biggest issue with it is that you null read me even though you claim we mindmelded, you'd think that if you are town and someone had a similar thought before you then they aught to be town too

3:44 p.m.

And you have no reason to fear me or respect my scum play as we have never played

3:44 p.m.

So it is super odd

SUNNY!!

some of it the other stuff just seems like reads achieved by skimming or not actually reading and taking pieces from others before you use the same argument, my reads on calla and lily were from me actually reading up, whether they were similar to yours really isn't a big thing to me? if i noticed something too, i can also point it out

‍♂️ you don't have complete ownership on those reads

Doesnt the same apply to abyss then tho

SUNNY!!

on my read with ane, while also not having much behind the reads on ziel, i feel it's something that has been talked about A LOT, and could easily have been brought up quickly and used to make themselves look less scummy by at least having one read

You don't look less scummy by having a read-

3:47 p.m.

Also I'm back

Guillo

My biggest issue with it is that you null read me even though you claim we mindmelded, you'd think that if you are town and someone had a similar thought before you then they aught to be town too

i never used the word "mindmelded" while i agreed on the lily/calla thing at the time, i don't think that makes it so you automatically go to the top of my town list? even so, i posted the descending readlist a good while after this, so my opinions clearly have changed i don't know your scum play, true, but I don't know your town play either

Imma be extremely busy today

Ngekop

Doesnt the same apply to abyss then tho

did you read the text right below it

Anemoia/Abyss

Imma be extremely busy today

So no readlist?

Sadly, it might not happen, although I'll try to do one now if no one asks me a dozen questions

Ignore the questions, make me a readlist please

Guillo

And you have no reason to fear me or respect my scum play as we have never played

Tbf multiple people have hyped you up

4:11 p.m.

Vc is abysmal

4:11 p.m.

We need to decide on at least 2 wagons

4:11 p.m.

@Guillo where you at rn reads wise

4:12 p.m.

@Ngekop same for u as I'm alive

Uh

4:12 p.m.

Lily/abyss/calla towns i think

4:12 p.m.

Guillo town i’d guess too

4:13 p.m.

Sunny’s role starting with “Ma”

nuh uh

@lilypetal

Ngekop

Sunny’s role starting with “Ma”

Hm

4:31 p.m.

That's wrong probs

lilypetal

@Guillo where you at rn reads wise

Im at Ngekop, EOTH, Callahan as town And immediate PoE Ziel, Sunny and Ane

4:41 p.m.

With the rest sort of in the middle

4:42 p.m.

You?

4:43 p.m.

I want Ziel or Sunny first but i can compromise on Ane

I found ziel and sunny both kinda towny

4:44 p.m.

Ane hasn't improved from what I've seen

If i wanted to force myself into townreading Ziel, it would be for their total disregard for how they are perceived

Null: EOTH - Need more messages Genesis - Need more messages Lily - ↓ Callahan - So much happening with these two that I need to focus on them when night starts (I'll continue later, we're doing lots of house work

Bruh

that's it??

those aren't even reads

At hammer

i mean now it's at hammer

️

If Anemoia is town here, i will want some explanations from their behavior cause this is how i expect a townie to behave

4:54 p.m.

Post game

Guillo

I want Ziel or Sunny first but i can compromise on Ane

Why are you voting him when ziel is the counter wagon and you prefer ziel

^

Because im willing to compromise on Anemoia

Anemoia/Abyss

Null: EOTH - Need more messages Genesis - Need more messages Lily - ↓ Callahan - So much happening with these two that I need to focus on them when night starts (I'll continue later, we're doing lots of house work

You wont have a night bro

Do you have a problem

You’re getting voted

Guillo

If Anemoia is town here, i will want some explanations from their behavior cause this is how i expect a townie to behave

Wat

I thought so

4:55 p.m.

I didnt stutter

Guillo

Do you have a problem

Yes

4:55 p.m.

That you have

4:55 p.m.

No need to compromise

4:56 p.m.

Bc it’s either abyss or ziel in this moment

Yes, townies compromiy

4:56 p.m.

compromise

When they cant get the lynch they want

4:56 p.m.

They compromise

4:56 p.m.

But you rn have

4:56 p.m.

Either the lynch you want

4:56 p.m.

Or your compromise

4:56 p.m.

Why would you vote ziel

4:56 p.m.

Is what i dont get

The lynch i want was at two votes

Guillo

The lynch i want was at two votes

With me being potential 3rd

And lily townreads her

Ngekop

With me being potential 3rd

Well too late

And i town lean abyss harder than most of the people?

Guillo

Well too late

Ok then

4:57 p.m.

@Caitlin

Hmm?

4:58 p.m.

Is that supposed to do something?

Well

4:58 p.m.

I intend to hammer rn

4:59 p.m.

But i hate waiting for flips even more than i do waiting for hammer

Yah go ahead

Abyss COULD be mafia

4:59 p.m.

I accept that

4:59 p.m.

But not bc of the reasons he is being pushed for

4:59 p.m.

Which is what concerns me

He is clearly uncooperative

For instance rn idt his wagon is pure ever

5:00 p.m.

Unless he is maf with eoth

5:00 p.m.

Which i would still go against thinking

5:01 p.m.

Btw

5:01 p.m.

Abi’s law says

I dont care, i gave him a chance, i gave him time to post his thoughts and a readlist

5:02 p.m.

That is not a readlist

Ziel/abyss/sunny/calla had a maf

It is worse than Ziel readlist tbf

You arent wrong

5:02 p.m.

He did post thoughts before tbf

5:02 p.m.

In an orginized way

5:02 p.m.

P similar to what a list would be

Where? I didnt see it

Anyways i feel awful rn

5:03 p.m.

I hope it isnt covid

Bro i hope too, that is what i got

5:03 p.m.

It’s the worse

i got it too it was the worst

This is why i don’t understand Ane or Ziel’s behavior, im here busting my ass with a fever while they are here trolling and playing stupid little mind games, or just wasting my time. If they are town im gonna be really disappointed

Anemoia/Abyss

I haven't made a read list so I haven't been keeping track of them

@Guillo from here

SUNNY!!

i got it too it was the worst

I’ve got it like 3 times now

Guillo

This is why i don’t understand Ane or Ziel’s behavior, im here busting my ass with a fever while they are here trolling and playing stupid little mind games, or just wasting my time. If they are town im gonna be really disappointed

I mean

5:07 p.m.

No way they are both scum bussing each other like this d1

5:08 p.m.

Otherwise it’d be even MORE disappointing

Ngekop

@Guillo from here

That readlist has a fence of the size of my house

Not really

Yes really, they are not compromising either way

Sunny town, me tl, ended up with ziel sr

5:09 p.m.

Ok so imma be honest

5:09 p.m.

If i hammer it will be for selfish purposes

5:10 p.m.

Bc if abyss is mafia and i dont vote him then i almost never make it next round

5:10 p.m.

Bc im confident if he is maf and goes d1

5:10 p.m.

Then we just win

id say only hammer if you really believe yourself that abyss is mafia, and not because you just don't wanna get lynched tomorrow

And if he is town then i make it next round 90% of the time bc im not one of the clowns voting him d1

SUNNY!!

id say only hammer if you really believe yourself that abyss is mafia, and not because you just don't wanna get lynched tomorrow

Uh

5:11 p.m.

If he is maf and i get voted tomorrow y’all are dumber than i thought

5:12 p.m.

Idc about that either way bc im confident i can narrow it down to 2 people if he is maf

5:12 p.m.

Meaning i win even without making sure i dont get ml’d

Ngekop

And if he is town then i make it next round 90% of the time bc im not one of the clowns voting him d1

Or well getting him lynched*

5:13 p.m.

In the case i hammer

What you are doing is scummy

Idc

Well that is too bad because you should

I think the fact i have no need to do/say this

5:14 p.m.

No matter what he is

5:14 p.m.

As scum

5:14 p.m.

Makes that irrelevant

5:14 p.m.

Not even entering wifom territory

5:14 p.m.

Just making it NAI

No, it’s WIFOM hence why it is scummy

Bc either im just doing smth unnecessary as scum or speaking my mind in an unconventional way as town

5:15 p.m.

It isnt towny hence no wifom involved

5:15 p.m.

Idek in which scenario is this scummy

5:15 p.m.

Where he flips maf or where he flips town

Im not gonna let you come in tomorrow and say hey i would never defend a scum partner like this, if ane flips scum

Ok if he flips scum

5:16 p.m.

I mean if he is maf then this is a win nmw

5:16 p.m.

And i hate the fact i might not make it just bc some people got lucky

5:16 p.m.

Bc most of the votes on him arent for valid reasons

You are arrogant

Maybe but it doesnt change the fact

5:17 p.m.

Most of the people voting him rn

5:17 p.m.

Arent doing so for valid reasons

5:17 p.m.

For instance calla and ziel def arent

That is your opinion not a fact

And idt sunny’s points are good either bc that’s how he got there

Guillo

That is your opinion not a fact

P sure it’s a fact especially on ziel

You cant know it is a fact without TMI

Calla has been confbias for the last 24h

Guillo

You cant know it is a fact without TMI

Yes i can

No you cant

(Unless they are bussing in which case it’s just dumb)

5:18 p.m.

Yes i can

5:18 p.m.

Bc they

5:18 p.m.

Gave the reasons

5:18 p.m.

They had

5:18 p.m.

And pushed them

5:18 p.m.

For THOSE reasons

5:18 p.m.

Which i can know arent valid

5:19 p.m.

If abyss is maf then his partner is not guillo/calla/lily EVER and p much never genesis and highly unlikely ziel

The only thing that is gonna get me to back off is if Ane is a mason, which i doubt he is because they would have claimed by now

Which leaves

5:19 p.m.

Sunny and eoth

5:20 p.m.

I seriously dont think this kid is maf

5:20 p.m.

He doesnt make sense as scum in almost any world

Guillo

The only thing that is gonna get me to back off is if Ane is a mason, which i doubt he is because they would have claimed by now

I thought he was before

5:20 p.m.

Then he dumbtold p much claiming he wasnt

Ngekop

He doesnt make sense as scum in almost any world

And even in this world he is townier than his potential partners to me

5:21 p.m.

Which is funny

5:21 p.m.

Sunny and eoth are more likely to be scum than abyss is

5:21 p.m.

Ok

5:21 p.m.

Eod

5:21 p.m.

Sorry sunny

dang

One of the main things

5:23 p.m.

Making me believe he could be maf

5:23 p.m.

Is him taking logical approaches to express critical feelings over specific circumstances

5:24 p.m.

Instead of just yk

5:24 p.m.

Expressing them out the way they are and he gets them

5:24 p.m.

Either i hammer a mafia or y’all get what y’all deserve

5:24 p.m.

So yeah

What you all deserve?

Shhhh

5:25 p.m.

Eod

5:25 p.m.

@Caitlin

End of Day

Day 2 Top

Caitlin pinned a message to this channel. 2023-11-04 6:49 p.m.

Very disappointed that Anemoia was not scum

7:06 p.m.

And thank you Mafia, for killing Nge, without that kill i would have come in this channel tunneling the crap out of him

7:06 p.m.

## Masons, whoever you are, please claim today to build a winning towncore

how would that "build a winning towncore"

Because there are 9 players left and only so many possible options for whom had any motivation to kill Nge over myself. Masons claiming today us the iptimal play because we gain two inno childs and mafia can only kill one per night

7:10 p.m.

9 or 7

7:11 p.m.

7

7:11 p.m.

Yah today is the day to claim to form a voltron

if ya say so guess we'll wait and see if they decide to claim, cause im not one

‍♂️ it'd suck if it's one of the inacs

SUNNY!!

if ya say so guess we'll wait and see if they decide to claim, cause im not one

‍♂️ it'd suck if it's one of the inacs

Totally the contrary, if it is in the LHFs even better! Because mafia will have a tough choice between killing the lhf or a loud voice

7:15 p.m.

Ive played this set up before, i was Mason, claimed on day 1 and mopped the floor with mafia

lfhs?

Low hanging fruits

7:16 p.m.

People whom are perceived as easy to yeet

7:17 p.m.

Mafia made a huge mistake killing Nge because both of us alive would have continued in a clashing. No tunnel = Better town chances

oh bet bet nge dying wasn't really surprising considering he was the most active one maybe he pushed a maf at some point? really not sure why else they'd kill him

You really fucked up lol

wat

7:19 p.m.

ok

Ok what

what did i fuck up on

Huh?

7:20 p.m.

Lol

Guillo

Mafia made a huge mistake killing Nge because both of us alive would have continued in a clashing. No tunnel = Better town chances

Referring to this

7:21 p.m.

Why did you think it was you?

you said "you" and i got confused mb

SUNNY!!

oh bet bet nge dying wasn't really surprising considering he was the most active one maybe he pushed a maf at some point? really not sure why else they'd kill him

The night 1 kill is the most important kill for Mafia

i am aware thank you

7:25 p.m.

️

Maybe it’s because he fake softed Mason yes, but i did as well so it gotta ve more than that

7:27 p.m.

Maybe it’s because he had Sunny and Ziel in PoE

7:27 p.m.

But so did i

7:27 p.m.

Activity? We both were

7:29 p.m.

We were both testing and each other, suspecting each other, finding each other town but with caution at the end

7:29 p.m.

Could be to preemptively break up a potential powerful alliance but that is an arrogant thought

7:30 p.m.

Or could be because he placed Ziel and Callahan as poorest reasons to vote out Anemoia

7:33 p.m.

So Ziel, Sunny, Callahan and myself had possible motive to kill Nge but I know that I’m town, so the immediate PoE right now is Sunny Ziel Callahan But i’ll wait for the mason claim

Not me being in this poe :(

excluding the new guy?

7:34 p.m.

garlic bread dude

### Masons, it is important that you claim today to inno child yourselves and build a towncore, dont wait until lylo to claim as you can be fake counterclaim and town may be forced to a wring decision

I thought Nge was mason im ngl

charlie

I thought Nge was mason im ngl

I thought he was mason with you and that he was distancing from you lol

Guillo

I thought he was mason with you and that he was distancing from you lol

I thought he was masons with Sunny

no

7:36 p.m.

he's mean

Guillo

So Ziel, Sunny, Callahan and myself had possible motive to kill Nge but I know that I’m town, so the immediate PoE right now is Sunny Ziel Callahan But i’ll wait for the mason claim

What would be my motive to kill Nge?

My eyes are hurting like a mfer

I'm really cold rn idk why

7:37 p.m.

I'm shivering and stuff and my hands are cold

my dog keeps looking at me

Skinwalker...?

i mean i hope not

I still have to reread day one, I'm not going to lie, I was pissed at Ane

charlie

What would be my motive to kill Nge?

He accused you of having poor reasons to execute Anemoia, of being confbiased

But, now Im just pissed at myself, bc I feel like I should of realized

Guillo

He accused you of having poor reasons to execute Anemoia, of being confbiased

what about ziel?

Guillo

He accused you of having poor reasons to execute Anemoia, of being confbiased

So, I would kill Nge over that when Nge town read me?

SUNNY!!

what about ziel?

Ziel was just in his PoE

I felt like my reasons on Ane were solid

ajahdjebshs

charlie

So, I would kill Nge over that when Nge town read me?

Yes, in fear of reconsideration or maybe he sussed your partner

Guillo

Yes, in fear of reconsideration or maybe he sussed your partner

He said I had no partners basically

charlie

He said I had no partners basically

Show me please

The people he paired me up with was like uh idk

7:40 p.m.

Lemme find it

Ty

7:41 p.m.

I know i should look for it myself but playing while sick is no fun

7:41 p.m.

I was hoping i’d get killed and didnt have to worry about it anymore

No, I wanted to die too LOL

7:42 p.m.

I have in my confessional that nge is so lucky he died

Same

wgat why

The fact our like

7:42 p.m.

game

7:42 p.m.

is the only game who didnt vote out scum day one

7:42 p.m.

is SENDING me

7:42 p.m.

And we spoke the mos

7:42 p.m.

most

Plus “oh shit, mafia did me a favor, how cool”

How did mafia do u a favor

By killing Nge

Well didnt u think he was mason tho

I was convinced he was scum overnight

why

I was ready to bring it all out today

What would u say

7:44 p.m.

If he was alive still

Many things, not worth talking about it now as he is dead and flipped town, talking about it would be just fluff

Oh okay

7:44 p.m.

I was just curious

Yah i just dont want to fill the game with fluff and give mafia an opportunity to talk about useless crap

I cant find it

7:46 p.m.

but Im going to reread day one anyways

7:46 p.m.

and I'll link it when i do find it

7:46 p.m.

but he said it a lot

But yah, killing him was mafia’s worst mistake cause im confident that with masons outing today, we win

Idk

what if they don't out though

I thought masons out on d3 in this theme

They’d be throwing in my opinion but at least i tried

charlie

I thought masons out on d3 in this theme

No

7:48 p.m.

They out before lylo

So why r we doing it so early

Because right now it is before lylo.

7:48 p.m.

If we dont execute mafia today

oh

Day 3 is lylo

it is

7:48 p.m.

how r we at mylo rn?

Not mylo

7:49 p.m.

We are not at lylo or mylo

Okay so why do u want masons to claim

We are at the perfect stage to out the masons because mafia will not dear to CC the real masons

7:50 p.m.

Dare

Okay let me actually think about what u are saying

7:50 p.m.

Bc i feel like there is a huge flaw to this

If Mafia CCs today and we eliminate the actual town mason, we know who we execute tomorrow

Why would Mafia cc

charlie

Bc i feel like there is a huge flaw to this

There is no flaw to this, ive won in this set up many times, this is a townsided set up

I swear someone told me it was scum sided

7:51 p.m.

or maybe i said it was

7:52 p.m.

I think i spoke to this about nge in this

7:52 p.m.

Oh yeah

charlie

Why would Mafia cc

Mafia will not CC today without willing to trade 1 for 1 with town

bc i thought scum had complusive rolecheck

That is another thing, maybe mafia already know who one mason is

I'm not going to lie, I'm really tired right now, so I'll get back to you later on this, but I'm pretty sure like I don't think this is the right call?

Town wins the gane by opening the game up today

7:54 p.m.

It is not the right call if you are mafia

No, there is like a huge flaw

Mafia dont want this

I think its because the masons just die

7:54 p.m.

back to back

7:54 p.m.

Yeah I'm pretty sure thats it

Who cares, mafia can only kill one at a time

I don't think u are realizing that it's better for a cit to die tn then a mason

We’ll still have an inno child left after the first one dies

7:55 p.m.

Calla you are sus right now

oh no

7:55 p.m.

dude idc

Dont AtE me calla

Someone not agreeing with u doesnt mean they r sus

7:56 p.m.

I'm not AtEing

Anyway Masons, out today and i GUARANTEE YOU we win this game, scum is fucked right now

We have 7 people left

7:57 p.m.

hold up

7:57 p.m.

2 ppl claim so 5

7:57 p.m.

then we vote someone out so 4

7:57 p.m.

then mason dies

Huh?

7:58 p.m.

Do masons die if they claim?

2 out of that 5 is mafia

Guillo

Do masons die if they claim?

well yeah?

7:58 p.m.

Why would mafia keep them in?

charlie

well yeah?

Like automatically?

no at night?

7:58 p.m.

are we

7:59 p.m.

talking about the same game rn

they don't get gunned down because they claimed

are you fr

Ok then why are you making the count like that, that is misleading

7:59 p.m.

Mafia cannot kill both the same night

SUNNY!!

they don't get gunned down because they claimed

are you fr

keep reading?

7:59 p.m.

I said one mason dies

7:59 p.m.

oh

7:59 p.m.

i didnt

7:59 p.m.

type that correctly

HEL

my bad

Let me do it

charlie

then mason dies

then a mason die

8:00 p.m.

Idk if its bc Im tired but like

8:00 p.m.

AHHHHHH

charlie

keep reading?

i meant guillo

SUNNY!!

i meant guillo

oh :(

8:00 p.m.

sorry

H

Dude I seriously thought nge + sunny was mafia, and nge was using sunny to post his real reads

8:01 p.m.

not mafia mason

8:01 p.m.

god im tired

8:01 p.m.

I was like wow nge went low by using sunny like that

nge kill has to come from a lost wolf team lol

nu uh

Best Case Scenario

7 right now Masons claim We execute a mafia Mafia kills a mason Day 3, 5 left. 4 town, 1 Mafia

8:02 p.m.

We mislynch

he was the main player that spewed themselves not mason

8:03 p.m.

so unless he had god reads

8:03 p.m.

not a good kill

8:03 p.m.

ill need to iso

I litterally thought he was mason tho

nah like he was playing rly anti town

lilypetal

he was the main player that spewed themselves not mason

Lol i thought he was mason with calla

Bc I thought sunny's read list, was like him coaching sunny

did u not see him spew himself not mason the entire game?

lilypetal

did u not see him spew himself not mason the entire game?

But he tagged Calla like a mason would

tagged?

Sunny made this read list in a cait's read list style, that sunny has no knowlege of how to do, and I thought Nge was like coaching them or some shit

I tagged you too to make mafia think we both were masons

8:04 p.m.

Lily

idk how that ever makes sense

lilypetal

idk how that ever makes sense

Because it makes people think oh this guy is pointing out a post in secret to his mason partner

8:05 p.m.

at this point feel it's between lily/ziel/gen, maybe calla maybe maybe sus

sorry

its okay

Guillo

Because it makes people think oh this guy is pointing out a post in secret to his mason partner

wait

8:06 p.m.

do masons not have a chat?

I think they do

They are supposed to

wtf

8:06 p.m.

then that makes 0 sense

8:06 p.m.

you would just put it in the chat

Ok sure but maybe scum is not thinking that ahead

what

alright

8:07 p.m.

so

It is all about theatrics

scum is p easy to parse then right

8:07 p.m.

once masons claim

we have 5 ppl left

8:07 p.m.

2 is mafia

8:07 p.m.

if masons claim

Huh

we have 7 ppl left in the game

charlie

we have 7 ppl left in the game

Right now yes

8:08 p.m.

Regardless of claim

Sorry if i worded that poorly

nah i understood it

charlie

if masons claim

i also think the 2 ppl who just spewed themselves as not masons are town so

8:09 p.m.

i think we win

We win if masons out today

8:09 p.m.

We build towncore

if eoth isnt a mason im gonna vote

8:09 p.m.

and not move it

8:09 p.m.

btw

8:10 p.m.

fairly sure i was right

Eoth subbing out

8:10 p.m.

:(

o

subbed

8:10 p.m.

i mean

well

8:10 p.m.

whoever subbed in

yea he got replaced by garlic bread guy

Nito

Okay, i'm going to hop out, I'm tired

garlic bread guy

But, I'll reread day one later, and give u what u asked Gullio

@Guillo When did you think Nge was mason, I'm a bit confused because you kept voting him

@4th Anniversary Finalist yoooooo pull up nito's cool with it so I'll just go ahead and say it we're both the masons

We ballin with it

NO FUCKING WAY EOTH WAS COACHING U

and nito is eoth's slot?

8:44 p.m.

alright

8:45 p.m.

i think that makes this game really easy

8:45 p.m.

my day 1 play sucked then mb

charlie

NO FUCKING WAY EOTH WAS COACHING U

I WASNT BEING COACHEF

SUNNY!!

I WASNT BEING COACHEF

how did u do cait's readlist then

8:47 p.m.

like where did u learn it

8:47 p.m.

I'm happy my mason read on u was right tho

8:48 p.m.

I was defending day one so hard

8:48 p.m.

u

charlie

like where did u learn it

I JUST followed the example that nge gave me

8:49 p.m.

i didn't know that was cait's

uishfiuehrfiured

8:49 p.m.

You did so good omg

8:49 p.m.

how was eoth as ur mason partner

auugh he was pretty inactive in the chat but not that bad nito isn't here that much either but at least he's a bit better

:( eoth is my mentor, give him some praise

8:51 p.m.

he was a rat this game tho

out of love of course idk what he was cooking

he was YOUR MENTOR?? dang

i think he was just busy this time around he didn't really give a reason as to why he stepped down

Yeah, ik hes in another mafia game rn and a org, so I was already thinking he was gonna sub out anyways

8:54 p.m.

plus he has a job

djdhdird

u played so well, I just wanna say that

yippee i joined the tournament to get better so if i really did improve that's sick

oh yeah 100%, like u are eating this game up in my opinion

9:00 p.m.

town read right away, gave your thoughts and opinions, pushed for what you believed in

9:00 p.m.

like yes!

9:01 p.m.

thats why ur my number one pick for the draft thingy

okay ur confirm town r u gonna

9:03 p.m.

drop everything

9:03 p.m.

like all ur thoughts now

callahan's reaction to claim is kinda weird ngl

9:07 p.m.

sunny + nito conf town

9:07 p.m.

guillo p towny, good play around mech sorta

9:07 p.m.

ziel seems almost..outed?

9:07 p.m.

i they were mason or wolf

9:07 p.m.

i figured*

yea yea already said who i think the mafia is between, and right now i might go for ziel unless she suddenly comes up with like a crazy good read list i feel like she was pocketing nge and a lot of her stuff was just filler/fluff

anemoia1011: 5 - Ziel, callahanc, Sunny, Guillo, Ngekop

9:09 p.m.

removing clears, anemoia1011: - Ziel, callahanc, Guillo,

9:09 p.m.

surely there is a wolf here

9:09 p.m.

cuz like

9:09 p.m.

yeah

ziel

9:13 p.m.

i saw you typing

SUNNY!!

@4th Anniversary Finalist yoooooo pull up nito's cool with it so I'll just go ahead and say it we're both the masons

Ok. This claim must be believed to be true unless counterclaimed TODAY

hope it's cced free mafia

If anyone waits to counterclaim on day 3, we eliminate the counterclaim

9:15 p.m.

my reads have not been bad, except for Sunny and Nge

lilypetal

callahan's reaction to claim is kinda weird ngl

it bc i was right and eoth is paired with them and i love eoth

9:17 p.m.

okay so

id believe guillo's town like i said before, probably a mafia in ziel/gen/lily hoping at least

I think guillo is town too

9:18 p.m.

lily still null like i spoke about before, i have gen as town tho

9:18 p.m.

ziel is null

if you think gen's town, then would you rather ziel or lily?

Ziel over lily rn

9:21 p.m.

Reads : Ngekop - Town ( rip ) Sunny - Town Read Chaos - Town Lean Ziel - Null Lily - Null Ane - Town ( rip ) Guillo - Town lean EOTH - Town Lean

9:22 p.m.

put eoth as town read

Lol

9:22 p.m.

Put Sunny and EOTH as mech clear unless counterclaimed today

9:22 p.m.

Not just townread

oh okay

9:23 p.m.

i cant

9:23 p.m.

edit my post but yes

Also any reads on the masons from the point of their claim and on are useless, we only backtrack when it comes to interactions with them

9:24 p.m.

@SUNNY!! can you please unvote

9:25 p.m.

We need the full day to try to solve this

do u think nge was fearkilled or like he was actually a mason read

I dont want any speed hammers

didnt u try too make that happen tho

9:25 p.m.

yea yea forgot maj is four votes

like with ziel

charlie

didnt u try too make that happen tho

Yes but we didnt have masons claim, nice shade, bottom to my poe you go

9:26 p.m.

its the truth

9:26 p.m.

i still have u as a town lean soooo

9:26 p.m.

also it wasnt shade at all

9:27 p.m.

i was just saying that u have done it so i find it funny that u r saying it now

When im yrying to design the optimal play that wins us the game, what is the purpose ofsaying that i wanted to speed hammer yesterday if not to discredit my proposal today

I just like to yap im ngl

9:27 p.m.

there is no deeper meaning

It is a shade and a scummy one

9:28 p.m.

We love one sided beef

Okay I just briefly read the chat but I want to discuss that Anem vote

9:31 p.m.

Initiated by Ziel, then followed up by Callahan and Guillo after they both claimed someone else was more sus

No.

9:32 p.m.

Ane was been my scum lean since like the middle of the game

9:32 p.m.

always

9:32 p.m.

Ziel was null, I choose the one I felt more confident in

9:33 p.m.

Which was my scum lean

hold on I need to find all of the messages I remembered

Ngekop

It has to be either sunny or eoth

this

I sat on Ane for the longest time, then voted Ziel bc Gullio was getting votes and i was hell no, and then when Gullio stopped getting votes, I went back to Ane.

Okay yeah "I only voted Ziel bc i didnt want u gone"

9:38 p.m.

But according to my ToS logic, it's always the people that tag along to the initial vote (the initial vote can be scum too) that are the most evil

this isnt ToS

9:39 p.m.

this is real mafia

And before ngekop died he said that "Guillo's votes are lowkey borderline"

Im not going to let a town lean be voted out

I'm aware it's not ToS but I'm applying my own logic/experience that hasn't let me down

I will softely say this, bc I understand u have to use the knowlege u do know to sort this game out

Also Guillo was pushing you Calla at the start but I said I thought you were inno

but in no way form would I personally let my town lean be voted out over a null read ( ziel ), so i shifted to ziel to save him, then when he was dropping votes, I shifted right back to my scum lean ( ane ). I wasn't going to vote EOTH bc he turned into a town lean after speaking with Guillo about it. So what was left was ane. Who was then my only scum lean i had at the time.

9:43 p.m.

which in my view, I think is very reasonable

so you're saying that you collaborated with Guillo to vote off Ane over someone else

no

9:44 p.m.

Ane was majority of my vote for a long time

9:44 p.m.

I didnt collab with Gullio

9:44 p.m.

Gullio was the one who made me realize eoth was most likely town

EOTH was a town lean from the beginning for me, no idea why people were sussing easyonthegameplay

genesischaos

Ok here is my unsubstantiated schizo post: Order of people I’m sussing after reading messages from specific people Easyonthehills: posted some kinda based memes, sounds like he’s high IQ making long posts and putting thoughts into them, probably town. Anemoia: Kind of talks like me and posts effortful but short msgs. Lilypetal: Getting targeted with Callahan which is interesting considering she was actually being assertive – so I’m sus of the people pushing her. Callahan: Has a similar speech style to Ziel but actually talks more about the game, seems to be friends with Ngekop Guillo: More aggressive than EOTH which is a good sign, but susses Callahan which I disagree with Ngekop: Don’t know how to read this guy, but his speech is very game oriented. Seems to think he’ll be targeted, which I’m sus is a high IQ strat because I know he is quite experienced. SUNNY!!: Doesn’t sus me and is posting effortful messages about the game. However from my experience playing ToS typically accusers are townies so people that don’t sus others are more likely to be evil. Also posted a reaction image to Lily getting sussed rather than offering any real input and then said he didn’t read it. But came up with a long post after so maybe I'm wrong. Ziel: Populating the chat with very short answers full of useless text, and suggested I was scum – I find this sus, but maybe that’s just her personality? (edited)

yes

I felt like i explained this so much

Ngekop

Sunny and eoth are more likely to be scum than abyss is

see I'm trying to piece together clues from Ngekop right

clues?

9:51 p.m.

This isnt a murder mystery

I mean, it kinda is

yeah ig, but hes not leaving clues LOL

Well as I said in my schizo post I know that ngekop is high IQ

He's not trying to secretly tell us something

(I'm just going to periodically refer to it as the schizo post)

that would be poor to his game play if hes trying to move on in the tour

Ngl I have no idea how it works

9:52 p.m.

my friend told me to sign up and so im like ye ok

r u having fun

yea

thats good nods

i guess you could say

okay im out i wanna watch surv

this game is easyonthedifficulty

9:53 p.m.

alright i want to talk to lily and the new guy

charlie

do u think nge was fearkilled or like he was actually a mason read

i think it's always optimal to mason hunt in this setup

9:56 p.m.

this very fact spews me town tbh

genesischaos

alright i want to talk to lily and the new guy

sup

see i would assume its meta for masons to reveal today right

@charlie the stuff i asked you, did you find it?

Upon reflection maybe sunny is either maf or mason, but then why not come out earlier when ngekop was pushing him to vote off EOTH?

genesischaos

But according to my ToS logic, it's always the people that tag along to the initial vote (the initial vote can be scum too) that are the most evil

Townie posted

9:59 p.m.

Post

Investigator n1 - Invest 3, no blood

Huh?

oh i thought you wanted me to post a fake will

Sunny the Sheriff N1: 3 inno N2: 5 (sus/secrets)

thats better ^

genesischaos

oh i thought you wanted me to post a fake will

I dont want any fluff here no

my fake wills are better

nah, sheriff wills are always fake

nuh uh (i always claim crus so i wouldn't know)

Masons can do whatever the fuck they want, we work for them, but i'd appreciate if you dont fluff too much

(i claim Mayor and get hung as Jester, we are not the same)

HEL

Guillo

Masons can do whatever the fuck they want, we work for them, but i'd appreciate if you dont fluff too much

I'm making an observation about sunny's behaviour

10:02 p.m.

see i might have to start calling him windy based on the turbulence of this game

genesischaos

Upon reflection maybe sunny is either maf or mason, but then why not come out earlier when ngekop was pushing him to vote off EOTH?

I didn't think it'd be good to come out as Mason so early, especially when EOTH wasn't really the top scum lean/read

‍♂️

So are you claiming mason now

genesischaos

EOTH was a town lean from the beginning for me, no idea why people were sussing easyonthegameplay

I do

genesischaos

So are you claiming mason now

yea i did earlier with nito

Check this out and update yourself instead of playing ToS here

Guillo

I do

to be fair part of the reason i liked easyonthememes is because of his funny posts

EOTH main push

current reads so far: Town: Ngekop, Guillo, Anemoia Leans town: Sunny Neutral: Ziel, genisischaos Potential scum: callahan, lilypetal https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169513372685975614 seems like most the day so far has been ngekop vs guillo, which is strange to me if one of them is scum here (though this could just be because they are the most active so far, will have to wait for the day to develop more) Guillo's push is an extremely bold one if scum here, generally coming off as a kinda selfish and headstrong townie Ngekop gives good vibes so far, don't think he's had any poor posts so far and seems to be genuinely interested in advancing the gamestate, which isnt a position I think scum would take right now Anemoia has some more questionable posts, but this comes off to me as a more newbie townie so far, though I would like to see their content improve a bit later on Sunny also gives good vibes but im not sure how much of that so far is charisma rather than actually being townie lilypetal im leaning scum so far, she started the game pretty strong but then quickly switched up her read on callahan and then her reads are kinda very basic after that, reading anemoia as scum isnt wrong but seems strange for her to do after seeing how her read on callahan developed Callahan is scum cause she is SUS, but actually it just feels like shes forcing herself to make posts rather than it being genuine + the lily connection i stated above Ziel and genisischaos havent said anything yet so i cannot really read them, but them being gone so far also makes reads in general pretty unreliable this early on id say. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169521104226877491 Reading ane as scum isn't wrong but going from building a good read on someone to then suddenly changing that read and picking up a super basic one out of nowhere is sus and that was the entire point, the progression of how lily was making reads didn't add up. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169528941275512872

SUNNY!!

yea i did earlier with nito

how did i miss this

i pinged the whole chat skill issue

L bozo

SUNNY!!

@4th Anniversary Finalist yoooooo pull up nito's cool with it so I'll just go ahead and say it we're both the masons

okay cool

Look at that readlist, just on skim he got 4 town lol

10:05 p.m.

Why did he leave, he would have advanced

"Callahan is scum cause she is SUS" Why

genesischaos

"Callahan is scum cause she is SUS" Why

Are you gonna read the rest

10:06 p.m.

Or just conveniently leave there

you have no idea how much i love at emoji

10:06 p.m.

i had to pause to laugh for 15 seconds irl

Uhuh

yeah no i read it, but you posted it after he came out as mason

genesischaos

yeah no i read it, but you posted it after he came out as mason

Hmm?

wait was it a repost

Yes

10:07 p.m.

So willingly to discredit me though

10:07 p.m.

I wonder

?

10:07 p.m.

are you being intentionally dense

Describe dense

its an adjective, it means ignorant

Guillo

@charlie the stuff i asked you, did you find it?

no i havent reread yet but i will probs tomorrow

10:08 p.m.

But i will find it

Why are you personally attacking me Genesis?

No, you're misinterpreting my confusion saying "you posted it after he came out as mason" as me discrediting what you're saying

You posted it Is the You = Guillo? If so Posted it = what?

You've lost me mate, emotions are hard to communicate via text

Ok hold on

what is this convo

10:11 p.m.

like

10:11 p.m.

i dont know Why

Guillo

EOTH main push

current reads so far: Town: Ngekop, Guillo, Anemoia Leans town: Sunny Neutral: Ziel, genisischaos Potential scum: callahan, lilypetal https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169513372685975614 seems like most the day so far has been ngekop vs guillo, which is strange to me if one of them is scum here (though this could just be because they are the most active so far, will have to wait for the day to develop more) Guillo's push is an extremely bold one if scum here, generally coming off as a kinda selfish and headstrong townie Ngekop gives good vibes so far, don't think he's had any poor posts so far and seems to be genuinely interested in advancing the gamestate, which isnt a position I think scum would take right now Anemoia has some more questionable posts, but this comes off to me as a more newbie townie so far, though I would like to see their content improve a bit later on Sunny also gives good vibes but im not sure how much of that so far is charisma rather than actually being townie lilypetal im leaning scum so far, she started the game pretty strong but then quickly switched up her read on callahan and then her reads are kinda very basic after that, reading anemoia as scum isnt wrong but seems strange for her to do after seeing how her read on callahan developed Callahan is scum cause she is SUS, but actually it just feels like shes forcing herself to make posts rather than it being genuine + the lily connection i stated above Ziel and genisischaos havent said anything yet so i cannot really read them, but them being gone so far also makes reads in general pretty unreliable this early on id say. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169521104226877491 Reading ane as scum isn't wrong but going from building a good read on someone to then suddenly changing that read and picking up a super basic one out of nowhere is sus and that was the entire point, the progression of how lily was making reads didn't add up. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169528941275512872

What does posting this after the masons outed today have to do with what we are talking about? I understood, well, you get no credit for that read because the masons have already outed, without noticing thst it was from EOTH. But the intention was to discredit that evidence without even realizing it was coming from the former Mason. # Why?

You're wrong in saying I was trying to discredit that evidence, as I've said twice now it was confusion about the origin of that post

10:15 p.m.

But there's no point getting caught up in semantics

Confuse about what?

So he was sussing callahan which I always disagreed with, but I also am unsure about the conclusion about me because I was posting (maybe not at the time he was making conclusions)

10:16 p.m.

i need to check if calla and lily were a pair from nge

We werent

10:17 p.m.

Nge was very strong agasint how we werent paired

thats right he paired you with me or ziel

yeah which was just like randomly and like i needed a pair or some shit

What does that have anything to do with you believing this was MY CASE and immediately trying to discredit me? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1170544080460206150 If you had clicked on the links first, you would have realized it was not from me, why jump the gun and instantly try to discredit me?

I'm just ignoring you Guillo because you didn't read what I typed at all

genesischaos

yeah no i read it, but you posted it after he came out as mason

??? @SunnyBunny @Nito i need your input on this please. Because im at the verge of death tunneling this player.

10:22 p.m.

Wrong sunny

SUNNYBUNNY??

Sry

10:23 p.m.

Lol

sunnybunny get in here rn

So @SUNNY!! i post this https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1170544080460206150 I say look at that readlist he would have advanced Then genesis says yah but you posted it after the masons claimed, kinda like the read dont matter, without realizing it was from your former partner

Look I was going to wait until after you got over your temper tantrum, but considering you're still being dishonest let me clarify for you. When you opened the post by saying EOTH main push I assumed you meant that you were pushing EOTH. Then when I explained that my comment was about confusion, you steamrolled through what I said and went off on a tangent about how you linked the post (that I had already read)

10:26 p.m.

I wouldn't be talking about hard pushing anyone after going on a bandwagon to vote off a townie

If genesis is scum, he just spewed me not partnered with him, but i need second opinions i can trust

eoth where r u

genesischaos

I wouldn't be talking about hard pushing anyone after going on a bandwagon to vote off a townie

What is this supposed to mean?

I'm talking about you feigning outrage and moral superiority after making a bad decision

5 of us agreed to vote off the townie

10:28 p.m.

And im uninformed so

10:28 p.m.

?

10:28 p.m.

Townies gotta die before we get to mafia

The point?

We could of got mafia lowkey idk the other games got their mafias day one

honestly, it sounds like genesis just made a mistake and was confused, thinking you were trying to push eoth/nito i don't think they were discrediting you, sounds like just a genuine mistake they literally said only a bit after "wait is that a repost" suggesting they realized

Guillo

??? @SunnyBunny @Nito i need your input on this please. Because im at the verge of death tunneling this player.

"im at the verge of death tunneling this player" who talks like this?

SUNNY!!

honestly, it sounds like genesis just made a mistake and was confused, thinking you were trying to push eoth/nito i don't think they were discrediting you, sounds like just a genuine mistake they literally said only a bit after "wait is that a repost" suggesting they realized

well Guillo was very excited to ignore what I said and start getting upset

SUNNY!!

honestly, it sounds like genesis just made a mistake and was confused, thinking you were trying to push eoth/nito i don't think they were discrediting you, sounds like just a genuine mistake they literally said only a bit after "wait is that a repost" suggesting they realized

genesischaos

"im at the verge of death tunneling this player" who talks like this?

Me, looking at how you were willing to discredit me without making sure who that post come from

Guillo argues like my dad its wild

Alright alright

10:30 p.m.

We are playing here

Ik ik sorry

If you are gonna go for insults i can leave

Oh thats not a insult

10:31 p.m.

inslut

10:31 p.m.

sult

10:31 p.m.

inslut

10:31 p.m.

insult

10:31 p.m.

*

charlie

inslut

I just realized the similarities

10:31 p.m.

Kind of cool in my opinion

i just say inpepper instead of insult

insalt

wait r u talking to me or chaos

10:34 p.m.

My dad comment is not a insult

10:34 p.m.

at all

10:35 p.m.

pls do not think it is

10:35 p.m.

My dad is cool

charlie

My dad is cool

B)

10:35 p.m.

Ok. I dont debate the confusion, i debate that he didnt check thevpost and was readily to tell me, you know what, you dont credit for that readlist as it came too late, without making sure where it was coming from Meaning he didnt even read it before telling me that. And when i questioned him about he goes on defensive mode and calls me dense. Similar to Callahan's overreaction to EOTH except Calla's was even more overblown. So im gonna back off to not let this game become toxic, but genesis to my scum list.

I didnt think it was becoming toxic, but if u feel it was take ur time

10:36 p.m.

I dont want players upset

10:36 p.m.

and ur feelings r valid

I'm not going to get caught up with continuing this argument, but you're making the same mistake as earlier

pls take time for yourself

10:37 p.m.

my react to eoth, me when eoth called me potential scum ReallyMad

okay off topic but just completed the new cod campaign actually got me crying oh my fosshgdhd

️

genesischaos

I'm not going to get caught up with continuing this argument, but you're making the same mistake as earlier

We’ll see, please continue to post game relevant content. Readlists Impressions on players Help me catch scum

SUNNY!!

okay off topic but just completed the new cod campaign actually got me crying oh my fosshgdhd

️

I haven't even checked it... im too scared

charlie

my react to eoth, me when eoth called me potential scum ReallyMad

So? You have not reacted to me the same way when i straight up called you scum? Why was he special? Lol

charlie

I haven't even checked it... im too scared

i won't spoil it

~~unless you want me too~~

hi so sorry i haven't been talking much just got home from the dentist

10:41 p.m.

why's there Helium next to my name

10:41 p.m.

honestly idk how to play this because I have not played such a read-heavy mafia game before

Guillo

So? You have not reacted to me the same way when i straight up called you scum? Why was he special? Lol

oh bc me and eoth goooo wayyyy back, we have lore, he was also my mentor so like i was pretty upset when he scum read me bc he should be able to read me correctly. I think this is the second game in a row where he incorrectly read me and i was just SMILE

like come on, plus I really wanted to play with him, like i invited him to this tour, and then he throws that read out when Im so obviously town, i was like wtf is this

10:42 p.m.

eoth may be a chef but he was not cooking with my read

Nito

honestly idk how to play this because I have not played such a read-heavy mafia game before

Well you are mech lock town. So you can post a minimum of 30 posts every 24 hours and then chill

10:42 p.m.

Read and chill

10:42 p.m.

And comment

ballin

Yeah reread

10:43 p.m.

actually

Your life is easy

10:43 p.m.

5 of us have to show you that we are town. 2 of them are lying to you

10:43 p.m.

That is the gist of it

Nito

why's there Helium next to my name

those are pronouns

ik i was making a joke lmao

OH SORURH SSJDHDBD

10:48 p.m.

anyway uhhhah who do you think is the mafia

Guillo

So? You have not reacted to me the same way when i straight up called you scum? Why was he special? Lol

Oh probs to expand on this a little more, I value EOTH opinion the most out of any mafia player so when u called me scum i was like oh okay, like i dont expect u read me right 100% like i do with him

I need to leave, my eyes are about to explode

I hope that helps explain a little bit more

10:50 p.m.

PLS TAKE MEDICINE U BEEN SICK FOR SO LONG

10:50 p.m.

take like night quill

I am but it is not helping much

have u been drinking water and eating correctly

10:51 p.m.

try warm foods

10:51 p.m.

also sleep

10:51 p.m.

is HUGE

10:51 p.m.

for getting better

Im not hungry since 2 days ago

You def need to eat, even if u dont want too

10:52 p.m.

If u get any worse, check yourself in with ur doc

Yah, ty

10:52 p.m.

Bye

np bye

10:52 p.m.

hope u feel better

Has ziel posted yet?

1:45 a.m.

@Ziel :D

1:45 a.m.

guys please i need to cherish my last moments

girlie u got like 48 hours

that's NOT ENOUGH

lol

3:04 a.m.

This setup seems really townsided tbh

3:05 a.m.

I could see a genesis/ziel world

3:06 a.m.

Guillo and calla towny

3:06 a.m.

So

3:06 a.m.

That seems like it's just the solve lol

lilypetal

I found ziel and sunny both kinda towny

at this rate, we shouldn't call you lilypetal, we should call you lilybackpedal

For saying someone is towny and then when flips happen and masons out going ah yeah they're a wolf

3:12 a.m.

?

3:12 a.m.

Good joke though

3:12 a.m.

I have an account on a game called Lilypedal

You should use that one

3:12 a.m.

More accurate

Alright let's play mafia. Why does me now wolfreading ziel deserve attention from you?

3:13 a.m.

Like, you saw I wolfread you two and went to pull up a post not about you. Why?

It's very interesting how you invent two new people to sus

What's your experience with mafia

3:13 a.m.

No offense I'm just curious

3:13 a.m.

For if I need to explain mech to you

3:14 a.m.

Or like how flips work

3:14 a.m.

lol

I'm not going to be condescended to

Alright so basically it mafia there's this thing called Alignments, and we get randed as Town or Wolf and in bad games we have third parties

3:14 a.m.

And we have seen two villager flips

3:14 a.m.

And the masons, confirmed town, have outed

3:15 a.m.

I know I'm town, so that leaves (4) players left

3:15 a.m.

Meaning finding wolves is actually kinda easy

3:15 a.m.

My reads were p wrong day 1, as I wolf read a VT and a Mason. I townread ziel for having similar thoughts to me

3:18 a.m.

With flips and PRs in mind Ziel comes off much more like a wolf, especially with the nge NK. When you assume the pocket their playing into of wolfreading eoth and the day 1 elim, you can see that realistically they wanted to continue pushing eoth today. That leads me to believe that the wolves, or at least ziel were under the impression eoth was not a Mason and nge was. That's the logical explanation for the play we've seen

3:18 a.m.

So I must ask again, why are you bringing that post up and saying I'm "backpedaling"

3:18 a.m.

@genesischaos

how could the mafia wolfread EOTH?

genesischaos

how could the mafia wolfread EOTH?

Wat

you said continue pushing EOTH

By saying they did? Wdym lol

who was pushing EOTH?

Ziel :D

EasyOnTheHills (Wolf Lean)
- Uhh... I don't believe EOTH's reads are accurate... I don't think their reads count as wolfy,,,
- Their reads make sense. I don't think 100% accurate, but makes sense... I need to read onto it later on.
- That reaction to their (Calla and Lily's) reactions was not towny. In my opinion, it's normal they'd be defensive if they have the right to defend themselves (both are my town reads as well)... 78% wolfy, 22% towny.

.

3:25 a.m.

Ziel's play is actually pretty bad now that I'm looking at her iso

3:25 a.m.

I think I got confused and thought sunny and her were the same person at points lol

3:25 a.m.

But yeah her reads list is what I'm talking about

So you're saying that her pushing EOTH who ended up being a mason is a bad play?

I'm more of saying that her play looks like she thought nge was a mason prolly with another TR

3:27 a.m.

I'm basically just doing nka

NKA to me means no known allergies

Night kill analysis

okay

What are your wolfreads

3:28 a.m.

Being that you're pushing back at me I assume you don't wolfread her?

See I kind of think that Guillo's insta reaction of reflexively accusing me is either a giga high IQ maf play but is more likely a townie (ToS logic)

3:28 a.m.

The insta vote back after an accusation always gets a townie voted off

lilypetal

Being that you're pushing back at me I assume you don't wolfread her?

I maintain that Ziel hasn't contributed much at all, but the thing pushing me against voting her is that she initiated the vote on Abyss

3:29 a.m.

which maf don't usually do, they usually follow up an (erroneous) vote

Are you saying wolves can't start wagons?

But that's also not consistent logic, because Guillo pushed Callahan and those people also pushed you lily

3:31 a.m.

Well it is consistent if Guillo is town

What's not consistent?

Because I'm assuming the pushes are wrong. Guillo pushing Callahan is conceivably correct

lilypetal

Are you saying wolves can't start wagons?

My point was that in my mind, bandwagons are usually started by bloodthirsty townies

3:32 a.m.

The pushes may be correct or incorrect, but they come from townies, and mafia only talk when they need to

Yeah but that's just a fallacy

Which fallacy

Like that's not realistic there's nothing backing your point up. I've played enough forum mafia to know that wolves indeed will start wagons plenty

Okay, so it's a disagreement not a fallacy

3:34 a.m.

A fallacy is an actual logical problem to what I've said

3:34 a.m.

I've described people's strategies

There is a logical problem to what you've said. You're using a "just trust me bro" arguement

3:34 a.m.

It's not reality

3:34 a.m.

If you're town don't use those

3:35 a.m.

It's like fine sometimes but that specific one isn't

Even if I was doing that it still wouldn't be a fallacy

3:35 a.m.

And you also asked me for my thought process

I can also tell you that your thought process is wrong or bad

A "just trust me bro" argument would involve no thought process at all

3:35 a.m.

It would be to blindly vote someone

Nah

3:36 a.m.

But its pointless to discuss further

It is, because you don't understand what a fallacy is

Iso ziel and give me proper reasons to why she's villagery

genesischaos

It is, because you don't understand what a fallacy is

Google the word fallacy and get back to me. You're getting stuck in semantics that don't matter regardless

3:37 a.m.

I'm basically saying your point is bad and sucks

I don't know whether she's intentionally hard to read or mafia

That's all

fallacy: a failure in reasoning which renders an argument invalid.

genesischaos

I don't know whether she's intentionally hard to read or mafia

Nah. I need more

lilypetal

I'm basically saying your point is bad and sucks

which isn't a fallacy

lilypetal

Nah. I need more

well I was giving you more until you side tracked

genesischaos

I maintain that Ziel hasn't contributed much at all, but the thing pushing me against voting her is that she initiated the vote on Abyss

So before the vote

3:40 a.m.

I'm trying to find the post

Ziel :D

Woe

I think it was here

3:43 a.m.

So anemoia1011, Sunny, callahanc, Guillo had voted for her

And?

charlie

heres my current list Ngekop - Null Sunny - Town Lean Chaos - Town Lean Ziel - Null Lily - Null Ane - Scum lean Guillo - Town lean EOTH - Scum lean

this is interesting though

Ziel :D

Not me , Nge, and Sunny, please

but this is a strange list

genesischaos

See I kind of think that Guillo's insta reaction of reflexively accusing me is either a giga high IQ maf play but is more likely a townie (ToS logic)

So you tr guillo and ziel? Meaning I'm a wolf and calla is a wolf?

No at the moment I'm trying to work out, rereading these messages, how easily they were convinced by Ziel to vote for someone else

Alright once you get around to bussing lmk

nge pushed Guillo, and Ziel voted with nge despite disagreeing that he was maf. Calla pushed back at the Guillo vote. Guillo called Ziel sus for following nge, and then Calla reiterated that she was voting ane. Then Ziel changed her mind about Guillo being maf (I can't understand the reason). When nge finally joined, he noticed Guillo pushing him. Ziel leaves. Nge uses some reasoning to say that if ane is evil, then sunny or EoTH is with ane, who then doesnt properly defend himself and gets voted off. Ane reflexively voted Ziel (which if I was on should

3:54 a.m.

(didnt mean to send yet)

3:54 a.m.

've clued me in to the fact that it was a bad vote)

3:57 a.m.

But Abyss didnt have any pushes because he needed more messages from me and EOTH. Guillo said it was a compromise to vote for ane, with Nge disagreeing saying it was either ane or ziel. They eventually agree to vote ane, but it didn't seem he fully agreed, especially not with sunny. And so the vote was made

3:58 a.m.

Ziel had already changed her mind to vote for ane BEFORE nge joined, but hadn't cast the vote yet

4:00 a.m.

So overall, the push on Guillo was delayed because ane wasn't active enough, and it seems like inactive people get voted off.

4:01 a.m.

Guillo saying it was a compromise to vote for ane is a bit strange, because he started by straight up pushing nge, who was the main person pushing ane (after Ziel initiated)

4:01 a.m.

I'll leave these thoughts here until more people engage

I had to finish my thoughts, it was distracting me when I studied: I don’t think Guillo+Ziel are maf together, it’s devastating getting a mafia voted off n1. It wouldn’t make sense for Ziel to change her mind about Guillo getting voted off, only for Guillo to vote for his mafia buddy Ziel (when the tide turned). So I’m suggesting either Guillo or Ziel is mafia or they’re both town. If they’re both town, by elimination that makes Callahan and lily mafia. So the pairs I have are Calla/lily (nge didn’t have) Guillo/Calla (nge didn’t have) Guillo/lily (nge didn’t have) Ziel/calla (nge didn’t have) Ziel/lily (nge didn’t have) Which inclines me to disregard nge’s conclusions, or maybe I’m overthinking and the collaboration between Guillo and Ziel was not good and the outcome was serendipitous.

HELLO

5:17 a.m.

I am still on my way home

5:17 a.m.

I'll comment on these later

genesischaos

I had to finish my thoughts, it was distracting me when I studied: I don’t think Guillo+Ziel are maf together, it’s devastating getting a mafia voted off n1. It wouldn’t make sense for Ziel to change her mind about Guillo getting voted off, only for Guillo to vote for his mafia buddy Ziel (when the tide turned). So I’m suggesting either Guillo or Ziel is mafia or they’re both town. If they’re both town, by elimination that makes Callahan and lily mafia. So the pairs I have are Calla/lily (nge didn’t have) Guillo/Calla (nge didn’t have) Guillo/lily (nge didn’t have) Ziel/calla (nge didn’t have) Ziel/lily (nge didn’t have) Which inclines me to disregard nge’s conclusions, or maybe I’m overthinking and the collaboration between Guillo and Ziel was not good and the outcome was serendipitous.

correction* ngekop did have calla/ziel

not another replacement

8:50 a.m.

what

wau

8:58 a.m.

ok time to read

Ok I read now to process becayse there is a lot of information

yeah if I can help clarify anything before im about to go to sleep lmk

oki

9:28 a.m.

I may reread again

9:29 a.m.

as I started reading from EOD Day 1

9:29 a.m.

but I wanna peek at gamestart

9:33 a.m.

what the hell was with Nge lol

9:34 a.m.

There's so much passive aggressiveness

9:34 a.m.

>still scrolling to top

Halara Nightmare (Duncan)

There's so much passive aggressiveness

>>and then they flipped town

finally the top

9:56 a.m.

Now to skim even though people were wheening about it yesterday

So, to start with just catching up: Why was my slot called an open wolf? From reviewing it looks like it was too obvious if they were open wolfing, yeah okay Open Wolfs are supposed to stand out but Guillo just seemed to be trying too hard to convince people that they're an openwolf. People were suspecting this for a while too, at that. Discussion about New Players which is no longer relevant, so skipping. Lamist discussion was weird, but probably would lead to a nothing burger anyways, So far Lily is throwing mild shade on Guillo, saying Guillo is X, then backing out with "I dont know their meta well enough". A lot of fluff then. the 'townclearing' post from Sunny hasnt aged well either, though with that said, it shouldnt have been a clear in the first place. >Everyone acting like Guillo's had no intention or ground, they were reaction tests they aren't meant to hold ground, they're meant to see who is thinking a similar way, which can sometimes indicate alignments. And with that said, right now Callahan, Lily and Sunny seem to be aligned, gut read of course, will have to keep reading. ig I'll post this much for now

10:18 a.m.

I'm seeing shade, but not as much as there normally is

10:18 a.m.

surprisingly

10:18 a.m.

now to post reference links so far

10:19 a.m.

Callahan Reaction to Guillos Reaction test - https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169424052369240174

10:20 a.m.

Sunny's townclearing post - https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169435788619038800

10:20 a.m.

ok time to keep catching up

10:26 a.m.

More fluff

Ngekop also throwing shade now on Guillo, but nothing comes of it, and well, they flipped town. I can see why people had suspicions of them now, though I'm not sure what scum was thinking killing them. They would have been a better lynch than a straight up kill. I wanna say Guillos slot and Callahan had a small mindmeld regarding Ngekop's open-wolfing. It makes me believe the two slots are aligned. Abyss, seems to be new as well as Sunny, not sure why people let Ngekop lead that push considering they were accused of open-wolfing all day. eoth finally arrives, says hello, asks for catch up, doesnt follow up. I want to peek at the Abyss votes now out of curiousity

the only reason I can see why Ane was voted was because of their Self Awareness, which idt anyone pointed out (yet)

10:44 a.m.

Callahan is a town lean I think, but with that said, that means Lily and Sunny would be too, given that they still seem to be aligned with each other, for now while reading

10:45 a.m.

Callahan is also thinking about the Towns Best Interest, hence why they questioned the reaction tests.

I'm not sure why Nge and Ane were being lumped together. Nge was questioning Ane and kept pushing harder and harder. I don't think as scum they would dont such a thing as it would just draw more attention, which is something you want to avoid as scum

eoth's reads post are a nothing burger: Guillo's push idt was bold at all, Ngekop already had the foundation laid for an Ane push. Ngekop would not give me good vibes, they open-wolfed, failed, then went after a new player. Ane is definitely a new town, which explains the self awareness. Sunny is a null at this point, their content lacks in comparison to Callahans even if they are new. Lily is a null, slight town lean, they have better content than Sunny but aren't seeing the picture as to why Ane was Self Aware. Callahan is a town lean for now, they have the town's best interest in mind, as previously mentioned and they seem genuine in most of the discussions so far, not sure why eoth had them as scum. Ziel and Genesis have done slim all content at this point, so not much to read on them yet.

11:10 a.m.

alright I think I have seen enough of day 1

11:10 a.m.

It's becoming a broken record now

party rockers in the house tonight

someone talk so i don't get frustrated reading ne50

genesischaos

Because I'm assuming the pushes are wrong. Guillo pushing Callahan is conceivably correct

? what

genesischaos

nge pushed Guillo, and Ziel voted with nge despite disagreeing that he was maf. Calla pushed back at the Guillo vote. Guillo called Ziel sus for following nge, and then Calla reiterated that she was voting ane. Then Ziel changed her mind about Guillo being maf (I can't understand the reason). When nge finally joined, he noticed Guillo pushing him. Ziel leaves. Nge uses some reasoning to say that if ane is evil, then sunny or EoTH is with ane, who then doesnt properly defend himself and gets voted off. Ane reflexively voted Ziel (which if I was on should

She changed her mind because she didn't agree with wanting to vote Guillo, which now I'm kind of thinking is because she was gaining votes on her end for voting Gullio. Example : Gullio + me voted her.

genesischaos

I had to finish my thoughts, it was distracting me when I studied: I don’t think Guillo+Ziel are maf together, it’s devastating getting a mafia voted off n1. It wouldn’t make sense for Ziel to change her mind about Guillo getting voted off, only for Guillo to vote for his mafia buddy Ziel (when the tide turned). So I’m suggesting either Guillo or Ziel is mafia or they’re both town. If they’re both town, by elimination that makes Callahan and lily mafia. So the pairs I have are Calla/lily (nge didn’t have) Guillo/Calla (nge didn’t have) Guillo/lily (nge didn’t have) Ziel/calla (nge didn’t have) Ziel/lily (nge didn’t have) Which inclines me to disregard nge’s conclusions, or maybe I’m overthinking and the collaboration between Guillo and Ziel was not good and the outcome was serendipitous.

The reason why Nge didn't have me and lily together as mafia, which is correct, is because no two wolves attack a basically inactive slot for bad reads on them. Do you know how much attention that puts on wolves? Which we got a WHOLE lotta attention from doing that. Why would we do that, when I pretty sure we are both, experienced mafia players?

You think we would both do a noobie mistake like that LOL, kind of offended lowkey. Nge also didn't have a lot of these pairs because they didn't make sense LOL. And they dont? Nge slotted me with Ziel only because I had no real pairs. So he was left putting me with you and ziel because you guys gave nothing! SMILE

Halara Nightmare (Duncan)

So, to start with just catching up: Why was my slot called an open wolf? From reviewing it looks like it was too obvious if they were open wolfing, yeah okay Open Wolfs are supposed to stand out but Guillo just seemed to be trying too hard to convince people that they're an openwolf. People were suspecting this for a while too, at that. Discussion about New Players which is no longer relevant, so skipping. Lamist discussion was weird, but probably would lead to a nothing burger anyways, So far Lily is throwing mild shade on Guillo, saying Guillo is X, then backing out with "I dont know their meta well enough". A lot of fluff then. the 'townclearing' post from Sunny hasnt aged well either, though with that said, it shouldnt have been a clear in the first place. >Everyone acting like Guillo's had no intention or ground, they were reaction tests they aren't meant to hold ground, they're meant to see who is thinking a similar way, which can sometimes indicate alignments. And with that said, right now Callahan, Lily and Sunny seem to be aligned, gut read of course, will have to keep reading. ig I'll post this much for now

Your slot was seen as a potential open wolf because of Lily's meta on Guillo. My meta on Gullio is he deeps wolf though, which I did speak about. What do you mean why you talk about how it shouldn't have been clear in the first place when regarding Sunny's townclearing post.

Halara Nightmare (Duncan)

Ngekop also throwing shade now on Guillo, but nothing comes of it, and well, they flipped town. I can see why people had suspicions of them now, though I'm not sure what scum was thinking killing them. They would have been a better lynch than a straight up kill. I wanna say Guillos slot and Callahan had a small mindmeld regarding Ngekop's open-wolfing. It makes me believe the two slots are aligned. Abyss, seems to be new as well as Sunny, not sure why people let Ngekop lead that push considering they were accused of open-wolfing all day. eoth finally arrives, says hello, asks for catch up, doesnt follow up. I want to peek at the Abyss votes now out of curiousity

Also could you expand on Nge's open wolfing

I didn't think he was open wolfing at all.

Halara Nightmare (Duncan)

eoth's reads post are a nothing burger: Guillo's push idt was bold at all, Ngekop already had the foundation laid for an Ane push. Ngekop would not give me good vibes, they open-wolfed, failed, then went after a new player. Ane is definitely a new town, which explains the self awareness. Sunny is a null at this point, their content lacks in comparison to Callahans even if they are new. Lily is a null, slight town lean, they have better content than Sunny but aren't seeing the picture as to why Ane was Self Aware. Callahan is a town lean for now, they have the town's best interest in mind, as previously mentioned and they seem genuine in most of the discussions so far, not sure why eoth had them as scum. Ziel and Genesis have done slim all content at this point, so not much to read on them yet.

EOTH's slot which is now Nito, and Sunny's are masons. Also, pretty sure EOTH had me as their scum because he didn't read everything, which he did admit he skimmed. Also do you mean Self aware by the fact Ane knew he was scummy?

SUNNY!!

someone talk so i don't get frustrated reading ne50

Can't talk about ongoing games sunny

I KNOW I KNOW I FORGOT

1:04 p.m.

ahaha

Sunny who is in your POE again

1:04 p.m.

+ reasons

charlie

? what

+ how was it correct?

1:06 p.m.

@genesischaos

genesischaos

I had to finish my thoughts, it was distracting me when I studied: I don’t think Guillo+Ziel are maf together, it’s devastating getting a mafia voted off n1. It wouldn’t make sense for Ziel to change her mind about Guillo getting voted off, only for Guillo to vote for his mafia buddy Ziel (when the tide turned). So I’m suggesting either Guillo or Ziel is mafia or they’re both town. If they’re both town, by elimination that makes Callahan and lily mafia. So the pairs I have are Calla/lily (nge didn’t have) Guillo/Calla (nge didn’t have) Guillo/lily (nge didn’t have) Ziel/calla (nge didn’t have) Ziel/lily (nge didn’t have) Which inclines me to disregard nge’s conclusions, or maybe I’m overthinking and the collaboration between Guillo and Ziel was not good and the outcome was serendipitous.

Also why is Ziel town in your eyes?

1:09 p.m.

I know Chaos is a ToS player, and I played it a few times myself, but I'm not sure if there is a busing in ToS.....

charlie

Sunny who is in your POE again

ahh probably lily, ziel, and gen ziel's readlist was a mess imo, she seemed to be pocketing nge and a lot of her messages are fluff/filler gen's reads seem really surface-level to me, and they're also really fast to discredit people and nitpick things, using TOS knowledge for their reasoning even though I've already learned that it doesn't really help here to use that stuff, since it's more social here if these two aren't mafia, lily's just here since there really isn't anyone else that stands out to me, and she seems to get really defensive,, maybe that was just because she was arguing with gen unless the mafia end up being guillo/duncan and calla, not sure who else atp

SUNNY!!

ahh probably lily, ziel, and gen ziel's readlist was a mess imo, she seemed to be pocketing nge and a lot of her messages are fluff/filler gen's reads seem really surface-level to me, and they're also really fast to discredit people and nitpick things, using TOS knowledge for their reasoning even though I've already learned that it doesn't really help here to use that stuff, since it's more social here if these two aren't mafia, lily's just here since there really isn't anyone else that stands out to me, and she seems to get really defensive,, maybe that was just because she was arguing with gen unless the mafia end up being guillo/duncan and calla, not sure who else atp

Okay we have the same POE, my poe is Ziel -> Gen -> Lily

1:19 p.m.

I don't think ToS logic fits really well here either, but I can only assume this is his first chat mafia game, so I can see why he's only using that because that's the only knowledge he does know the work with.

1:21 p.m.

I actually don't think Lily was defensive that argument just confused and being like wtf is this? Because thats how I was feeling when reading Gen's stuff, and she seemed to be saying similar things to what I would say to it if I was in talking to him.

1:22 p.m.

Also does Nito also have a the same POE as you? Or is it different?

nito doesn't really talk to me, he isn't crazy active so im not sure

i already talked to him about my POEs though, and he's newer so he'd probably just have the same yeah

Make sure he rereads though, did you catch him up on what happened so far

1:24 p.m.

Like a general time line

yea yea gave him a recap of d1, my poe's, and told him how to make a read list by using my old one hoping he makes something

Yeah, you need to work with him, because if I was mafia, I would be killing you first out of the masons, because your slot in active, and his is not.

yeah i know im going to die over nito, sucks he's only active really late in the day so imausgdejdb

The struggles of being active

so we're all in agreement

2:08 p.m.

right?

2:09 p.m.

why not hammer

2:09 p.m.

who tf is pearisa

2:09 p.m.

LOL

2:10 p.m.

i guess guillo sub?

charlie

Your slot was seen as a potential open wolf because of Lily's meta on Guillo. My meta on Gullio is he deeps wolf though, which I did speak about. What do you mean why you talk about how it shouldn't have been clear in the first place when regarding Sunny's townclearing post.

tbf ive thought guillo is town for like

2:13 p.m.

ages

2:13 p.m.

so idk whatcha mean lol

2:14 p.m.

his play around mech was p good

2:14 p.m.

the nge kill feels unlikely from him

Oh yeah 100%

2:14 p.m.

I was explaining my point of view for what he said

ofc

2:15 p.m.

i just wanted to make sure we were on the same page

2:15 p.m.

Honestly Idk why we are voting

2:15 p.m.

arent

2:16 p.m.

but ig like we should give ziel a chance to speak

didnt she pop in

2:17 p.m.

seems to be in antispew

Ziel :D

I'll comment on these later

I wanna see her comments to Gen

charlie

Your slot was seen as a potential open wolf because of Lily's meta on Guillo. My meta on Gullio is he deeps wolf though, which I did speak about. What do you mean why you talk about how it shouldn't have been clear in the first place when regarding Sunny's townclearing post.

1st. to me it didnt even look like opem wolfing, much rather just reaction testing, somethijg that happens a lot early game on this server. Sunny's statement looked clumsy, they said that Nge seemed a bit scummy based off old games, but didnt cite anything more than a quote, unless others did a check to see if that quote was true, I wouldnt have just jumped to TRing that.

charlie

Also could you expand on Nge's open wolfing

I didn't think he was open wolfing at all.

Ehh, I dont remember why exactly, I remember someone mentioned it, then I reread through and it felt like open wolfing.

charlie

EOTH's slot which is now Nito, and Sunny's are masons. Also, pretty sure EOTH had me as their scum because he didn't read everything, which he did admit he skimmed. Also do you mean Self aware by the fact Ane knew he was scummy?

Yes Ane was acting like they knew they were scummy, being Self Aware.

sooo are we planning to lynch ziel? or who do you guys want to be the main target here

i can feel the knock of death at my door please

SUNNY!!

sooo are we planning to lynch ziel? or who do you guys want to be the main target here

Yeah

3:54 p.m.

It's really just up to whenever the masons want to

3:54 p.m.

I believe everyone else is in agreement

Okay so another 25 hours yet, good

SUNNY!!

ahh probably lily, ziel, and gen ziel's readlist was a mess imo, she seemed to be pocketing nge and a lot of her messages are fluff/filler gen's reads seem really surface-level to me, and they're also really fast to discredit people and nitpick things, using TOS knowledge for their reasoning even though I've already learned that it doesn't really help here to use that stuff, since it's more social here if these two aren't mafia, lily's just here since there really isn't anyone else that stands out to me, and she seems to get really defensive,, maybe that was just because she was arguing with gen unless the mafia end up being guillo/duncan and calla, not sure who else atp

It feels kind of pointless to respond to some of this because people aren't even trying to understand what I said. "They're also really fast to discredit people" - whilst discrediting me by just saying that the reads are surface level, after I explained them in detail. You're also reframing me asking questions especially related to Guillo getting upset as nitpicking, which is dishonest because asking questions about something vague someone has said is not nitpicking. If you're referring to lily accusing me of making a fallacy, that is also not a nitpick, but it is not your fault for not knowing that. If I had actually said something fallacious, and you pointed out a logical problem in what I said, it would be silly to defend something provably wrong. But lily simply disagreed with me, which is reasonable in this game, meaning she was discrediting me because she personally didn't like my argument, not that it was objectively untrue. You're making the same mistake as lily as well, "even though I've already learned it doesn't really help here". Ignoring the narcissism, that everything you believe is true and conflicting ideas are wrong, you actually have to have a stronger case. I put forward a totally conceivable interpretation of what I witnessed as someone who is trying to work out who mafia is and who is on the same team.

charlie

Also why is Ziel town in your eyes?

Can you please point to where I said Ziel was town in my eyes? I'd like to see this post please

charlie

The reason why Nge didn't have me and lily together as mafia, which is correct, is because no two wolves attack a basically inactive slot for bad reads on them. Do you know how much attention that puts on wolves? Which we got a WHOLE lotta attention from doing that. Why would we do that, when I pretty sure we are both, experienced mafia players?

You think we would both do a noobie mistake like that LOL, kind of offended lowkey. Nge also didn't have a lot of these pairs because they didn't make sense LOL. And they dont? Nge slotted me with Ziel only because I had no real pairs. So he was left putting me with you and ziel because you guys gave nothing! SMILE

Sure, but you didn't really have to attack anyone because once people started the conversation about ane, he couldn't really defend himself (I think he had time constraints). It seemed to me like finding a safe vote couldnt move past ane as he wasn't talking. But I'm nor sure why you only mentioned that one pair, there's 4 others there.

narcissism? why did you bring that up

genesischaos

Can you please point to where I said Ziel was town in my eyes? I'd like to see this post please

I just realized I miss read what you said, ignore what I said

Because your point in that post comes across that way. But that's separate to my point, a narcissistic argument is not inherently wrong

genesischaos

Sure, but you didn't really have to attack anyone because once people started the conversation about ane, he couldn't really defend himself (I think he had time constraints). It seemed to me like finding a safe vote couldnt move past ane as he wasn't talking. But I'm nor sure why you only mentioned that one pair, there's 4 others there.

I wasn’t finding a safe vote, and I went back and forth on Ane for quite a bit in the beginning, and he didn’t improve. I said these pairs didn’t make sense, so I referred to them all.

charlie

I wasn’t finding a safe vote, and I went back and forth on Ane for quite a bit in the beginning, and he didn’t improve. I said these pairs didn’t make sense, so I referred to them all.

Yes, you weren't leading the discussion, Nge was (after he came, which is when it looked like the tide turned).

genesischaos

Because your point in that post comes across that way. But that's separate to my point, a narcissistic argument is not inherently wrong

aside from it being really fucking unnecessary to say that no it doesn't? it's what i believed you were doing at the time. i never once stated that everything i believe is true. nothing about that is "narcissistic" can you not? maybe find a more proper word

charlie

I wasn’t finding a safe vote, and I went back and forth on Ane for quite a bit in the beginning, and he didn’t improve. I said these pairs didn’t make sense, so I referred to them all.

I mean you said that they other ones don't make sense "cos they don't" which isn't much for me to work with Why

genesischaos

Yes, you weren't leading the discussion, Nge was (after he came, which is when it looked like the tide turned).

Are you talking about Nge or me, I’m like really confused

genesischaos

I mean you said that they other ones don't make sense "cos they don't" which isn't much for me to work with Why

I mean can you make sense of your pairings?

charlie

Are you talking about Nge or me, I’m like really confused

You said that I said you were finding a safe vote. I said that you weren't even really leading the discussion, Nge was

genesischaos

You said that I said you were finding a safe vote. I said that you weren't even really leading the discussion, Nge was

The discussion of voting Ane out?

charlie

I mean can you make sense of your pairings?

I mean I explained the pairs in my post, if you didn't follow part of it, which part

I was the main one tunneling him?

genesischaos

I had to finish my thoughts, it was distracting me when I studied: I don’t think Guillo+Ziel are maf together, it’s devastating getting a mafia voted off n1. It wouldn’t make sense for Ziel to change her mind about Guillo getting voted off, only for Guillo to vote for his mafia buddy Ziel (when the tide turned). So I’m suggesting either Guillo or Ziel is mafia or they’re both town. If they’re both town, by elimination that makes Callahan and lily mafia. So the pairs I have are Calla/lily (nge didn’t have) Guillo/Calla (nge didn’t have) Guillo/lily (nge didn’t have) Ziel/calla (nge didn’t have) Ziel/lily (nge didn’t have) Which inclines me to disregard nge’s conclusions, or maybe I’m overthinking and the collaboration between Guillo and Ziel was not good and the outcome was serendipitous.

Like this is by elimination right? I’m talking about how these are pairs in your eyes? What interactions made us pairs?

charlie

I was the main one tunneling him?

You pushed back at the Guillo vote, but it seemed moreso that you were leaning to vote him, but the momentum didn't change enough until more people joined

Why would I vote Guillo?

I said you pushed back at it

He was my town lean

6:07 p.m.

Oh okay so what’s the problem

charlie

Like this is by elimination right? I’m talking about how these are pairs in your eyes? What interactions made us pairs?

I'm isolating the instance of what happened with the vote to make pairs, because it's a much more objective measure than conjecture pushed in D1

6:09 p.m.

I'm using some observable voting and discussion patterns to pair people together, and favouring this line of reasoning.

Can you explain more for each pair then the overall idea of them?

It's just process of elimination considering that I believed that Guillo and Ziel could not be on the same team

6:09 p.m.

And knowing we have 2 masons

Yeah they aren’t

SUNNY!!

aside from it being really fucking unnecessary to say that no it doesn't? it's what i believed you were doing at the time. i never once stated that everything i believe is true. nothing about that is "narcissistic" can you not? maybe find a more proper word

also, where did you explain these reads in detail?

But as I said in the post, it's entirely possible my interpretation of that is wrong, which is why I asked for feedback on that line of reasoning

genesischaos

I had to finish my thoughts, it was distracting me when I studied: I don’t think Guillo+Ziel are maf together, it’s devastating getting a mafia voted off n1. It wouldn’t make sense for Ziel to change her mind about Guillo getting voted off, only for Guillo to vote for his mafia buddy Ziel (when the tide turned). So I’m suggesting either Guillo or Ziel is mafia or they’re both town. If they’re both town, by elimination that makes Callahan and lily mafia. So the pairs I have are Calla/lily (nge didn’t have) Guillo/Calla (nge didn’t have) Guillo/lily (nge didn’t have) Ziel/calla (nge didn’t have) Ziel/lily (nge didn’t have) Which inclines me to disregard nge’s conclusions, or maybe I’m overthinking and the collaboration between Guillo and Ziel was not good and the outcome was serendipitous.

The calla/Lily pair didn’t make sense to me like I explained. Guillo/Calla pair doesn’t make sense since we were def beefing a lot throughout the game. He was the main one pushing me for my overreaction. Ziel/Calla pair doesn’t make sense to me since I was willing to vote them out over Gullio. And I want to vote them out now

SUNNY!!

aside from it being really fucking unnecessary to say that no it doesn't? it's what i believed you were doing at the time. i never once stated that everything i believe is true. nothing about that is "narcissistic" can you not? maybe find a more proper word

Well I'll use the words I want to use, and you can use the words you want to use. It's entirely fair calling it narcissistic, because you dismissed my lines of logic simply because they didn't align with your personal view on the matter.

You need to remember main interactions throughout the game when deciding pairs.

well, no you won't if i don't want you calling me that you're not going to fucking call me that

6:13 p.m.

that simple

charlie

The calla/Lily pair didn’t make sense to me like I explained. Guillo/Calla pair doesn’t make sense since we were def beefing a lot throughout the game. He was the main one pushing me for my overreaction. Ziel/Calla pair doesn’t make sense to me since I was willing to vote them out over Gullio. And I want to vote them out now

Sure, and if you're using evidence from earlier in the game that's fine. I give preference to making conclusions from things that have actually happened. That explains my pairings

Dude don’t call Sunny a narcissist

genesischaos

Sure, and if you're using evidence from earlier in the game that's fine. I give preference to making conclusions from things that have actually happened. That explains my pairings

My conclusionz actually happen tho?

6:14 p.m.

Like?

charlie

My conclusionz actually happen tho?

I don't put as much weight on "beefing through the game", I look at the actual votes and how people were swayed. But can you explain the Ziel/Calla pair a bit, because what made you change from Guillo to Ziel?

genesischaos

I don't put as much weight on "beefing through the game", I look at the actual votes and how people were swayed. But can you explain the Ziel/Calla pair a bit, because what made you change from Guillo to Ziel?

What do you mean change from Guillo to Ziel? I went from Ane to Ziel then back to Ane?

6:16 p.m.

I only voted Ziel so Gullio didn’t get voted out, since he was my town lean.

6:17 p.m.

Then I went back to my scum lean when the votes on Guillo went away

6:17 p.m.

My scum lean being Ane?

6:17 p.m.

What’s the problem with what I did?

charlie

What do you mean change from Guillo to Ziel? I went from Ane to Ziel then back to Ane?

That's right, I forgot you changed votes specifically for numbers

Ye

6:18 p.m.

So what’s the issue

charlie

What’s the problem with what I did?

I'm not saying your logic is objectively wrong, because it's not. From my perspective, this is what I can see happened. But I'm still a bit confused at parts of what you said. "Guillo/Calla pair doesn't make sense" - you're saying you were overall siding with Guillo, and despite the beef he was actually pushing Nge more than you, and prepared to vote him off (basically right up until he joined)

genesischaos

Well I'll use the words I want to use, and you can use the words you want to use. It's entirely fair calling it narcissistic, because you dismissed my lines of logic simply because they didn't align with your personal view on the matter.

Welcome to mafia, but you shouldn’t call them a narcissist, that was really rude

You should honestly apologize

Likewise, you being paired with Lily still makes sense to me because you didn't really initiate any push

A push for what?

6:21 p.m.

Why am I suppose to push a null read

charlie

Welcome to mafia, but you shouldn’t call them a narcissist, that was really rude

You should honestly apologize

The argument was entirely narcissistic by the definition of the word, if he wants to be upset about that he can. I'm not apologising for observing something obvious

charlie

Why am I suppose to push a null read

That's my point, you didn't really push him

6:22 p.m.

You said it doesn't make sense for two experienced mafias to push someone who is essentially AFK

genesischaos

I'm not saying your logic is objectively wrong, because it's not. From my perspective, this is what I can see happened. But I'm still a bit confused at parts of what you said. "Guillo/Calla pair doesn't make sense" - you're saying you were overall siding with Guillo, and despite the beef he was actually pushing Nge more than you, and prepared to vote him off (basically right up until he joined)

No he went wack on me for awhile, like voting me several times, why as mafia pair would he be like shit I gotta vote my partner a lot and aggressively fight with them?

genesischaos

That's my point, you didn't really push him

OH UR TALKING ABOUT EOTH

6:23 p.m.

I thought u were talking about Lily

6:23 p.m.

6:24 p.m.

Wasn't i talking about ane

I pushed him a lot for his shitty reads, A LOT. Especially when he posted them? I even voted him, and constantly brought it up how his reads were shitty, but then I spoke to Guillo and was kind of figuring it out, and I realized he was probs town.

6:24 p.m.

Wait

charlie

No he went wack on me for awhile, like voting me several times, why as mafia pair would he be like shit I gotta vote my partner a lot and aggressively fight with them?

I think he voted for you once before changing to lily and then nge

Who r we talking about

charlie

Who r we talking about

I was saying you didn't really push ane

LOL???

6:25 p.m.

No way u just said that

6:25 p.m.

When I was swinging for his vote

What did you think I was saying earlier about Nge leading the discussion?

genesischaos

I think he voted for you once before changing to lily and then nge

Here’s was my vote thingy I put down I haven’t updated in a fat min bc I forgot too. Vote Count Follower : Ngekop -Voted Gullio because RVS. -Voted Ane because he froze. Sunny -Voted Lily, scum read them for their reaction? Chaos Ziel Lily -Voted Ane because he's ungeuine -Voted EOTH, bad reads Ane -Voted Lily for no reason? Guillo -Voted me because of LAMST. -Voted Nge thinks he's putting on a show. -Voted me bc he thinks I'm confirmed scum? EOTH

genesischaos

What did you think I was saying earlier about Nge leading the discussion?

Dude idk wtf we are talking about, but I know DAMN well I was pushing for him

genesischaos

The argument was entirely narcissistic by the definition of the word, if he wants to be upset about that he can. I'm not apologising for observing something obvious

Do you even know what that word means? I doubt you do, since NOTHING about my statement is supposedly narcissistic.

charlie

Dude idk wtf we are talking about, but I know DAMN well I was pushing for him

Okay, I read it as you were sort of moving with the momentum of the discussion, lead by Nge. not that you were hard pushing him specifically

I said what I believed. I never once said everyone agreed with me, or that it was fact. screw off

But if that's how you're saying it happened, that's fine

genesischaos

Okay, I read it as you were sort of moving with the momentum of the discussion, lead by Nge. not that you were hard pushing him specifically

No, I was literally arguing with Nge about it for awhile, and trying to get ppl to vote him

6:29 p.m.

Which I think everybody can agree lol?

6:29 p.m.

Maybe not u

6:29 p.m.

Which is fine

6:30 p.m.

Alos really confused how u are saying Nge lead the Ane wagon, when he was totally agasint it

6:31 p.m.

Maybe in the beginning, but your talking about EOD

I know I said this for a reason - Calla your last message was at 6:16 which was 2 hours before end of discussion

Yeah?

charlie

No, I was literally arguing with Nge about it for awhile, and trying to get ppl to vote him

But scrolling through the chat it does seem much more like a back and forth, no hard pushes which I was insinuating

Whats the issue

But also Nge was kind of being distracted by Guillo actually hard pushing hiim

6:33 p.m.

So he had to deal with both issues without getting hard accused further

genesischaos

But scrolling through the chat it does seem much more like a back and forth, no hard pushes which I was insinuating

Me arguing my reasons on why he is scum is pushing because everybody is looking at me arguing my reasons, I'm pushing/arguing on the fact he is scum?

6:34 p.m.

I'm literally so confused about what your main goal is with saying this.

6:35 p.m.

What are you trying to get across right now?

Your point was that you couldn't be paired with Guillo based on your vote on Ane, and I was disagreeing with that

No?

charlie

The calla/Lily pair didn’t make sense to me like I explained. Guillo/Calla pair doesn’t make sense since we were def beefing a lot throughout the game. He was the main one pushing me for my overreaction. Ziel/Calla pair doesn’t make sense to me since I was willing to vote them out over Gullio. And I want to vote them out now

This is what I said?

charlie

What do you mean change from Guillo to Ziel? I went from Ane to Ziel then back to Ane?

here

6:36 p.m.

and your msgs after

I never said I couldn't be paired with him because of that?

6:37 p.m.

I explained how I was voting

Your argument against the Guillo/Calla pair was the beef, but you're also saying that you town leaned him and voted with him

Yeah because we had beef before, and I still town lean him throughout him saying I was scum?

6:38 p.m.

And then he thought i was town

And that makes sense to you because you're putting a larger emphasis on chats, which is a different approach to mine

I don't understand what you are coming at right now?

6:38 p.m.

Oh okay

6:39 p.m.

Because interactions are key components for making pairs?

Like I said, I'm giving my perspective from how it looks to me and how I consider the things that happened this game

You can't ignore like the whole chat?

6:39 p.m.

Well I was giving priority to certain parts of the chat

Oh okay

6:39 p.m.

So this whole convo, is just nothing

No, this convo is me explaining my conclusions

6:40 p.m.

And understanding yours

Do you still agree with your points?

Generally yes, I'm less sure about one of the pairs but I do (kind of) want to see lily's input and Ziel's. It's disappointing that sunny ignored the rest of my response, about him doing the thing he accused me of

Okay got you, but I still think its how do I put this lightly eh, for you to ignore early interactions and only base things at EOD, your like ignoring like 46 hours worth of info in my opinion, but if that how you are seeing things, then sure go at it.

6:43 p.m.

I can't stop you from doing that

charlie

Okay got you, but I still think its how do I put this lightly eh, for you to ignore early interactions and only base things at EOD, your like ignoring like 46 hours worth of info in my opinion, but if that how you are seeing things, then sure go at it.

I had an original schizo post that I thought addressed the earlier parts of the conversation

genesischaos

Generally yes, I'm less sure about one of the pairs but I do (kind of) want to see lily's input and Ziel's. It's disappointing that sunny ignored the rest of my response, about him doing the thing he accused me of

im doing something else i also wanted to make it clear that i don't appreciate being called a narcissist, so fuck off with that

I'm favouring new information about the vote

genesischaos

I had an original schizo post that I thought addressed the earlier parts of the conversation

I know but your whole argument right now is EOD stuff

6:44 p.m.

Is this your first chat mafia game

Which I think is totally fair. Because conceivably otherwise I wouldn't be able to come to any conclusions at all, especially as mafia can distance themselves early and most early chat isn't based on much

I mean the meat of a lot of things happens during the middle of the day, yes I can see your point on distancing themselves early but, chat mafia that doesn't really happen

Because it becomes very obvious when two people aren't speaking to each other that much in 48 hours.

charlie

We could be scum distancing ourselves since he actually never even voted me

didn't you say it here

genesischaos

didn't you say it here

My joke?

6:47 p.m.

Is that a joke? my autism can't tell

Oh lol

6:47 p.m.

dude I was begging eoth to speak to me

6:47 p.m.

But he didn't want too

:SMILE:

6:47 p.m.

NO

6:47 p.m.

But also EOTH's slot is mason

6:50 p.m.

But, I think you should really apologize to Sunny

I'm not gonna do that, because that would imply that I've done something wrong

You did?

I've been over this, not rehashing it. I'm moving on and not perseverating on it

charlie

But, I think you should really apologize to Sunny

it's alright dw can't force people to recognize mistakes if they don't want to

I think that was really rude of you, and name calling is just SMILE

Mafia is toxic at it's core, but let's not be rude to people.

SUNNY!!

it's alright dw can't force people to recognize mistakes if they don't want to

UIHWFIUHEFIUHEF

charlie

I think that was really rude of you, and name calling is just SMILE

Mafia is toxic at it's core, but let's not be rude to people.

It is not name calling to call an argument narcissistic!

genesischaos

It is not name calling to call an argument narcissistic!

In what ways was it narcissistic?

charlie

In what ways was it narcissistic?

I'm not rehashing it, I explained it earlier

Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others. Be envious of others and believe others envy them. Behave in an arrogant way, brag a lot and come across as conceited. Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office.

6:54 p.m.

Accusing and projecting: One tactic they may use is to shift attention from themselves to you, blaming you for toxic behavior without acknowledging or addressing their own. Gossiping and slandering: Since narcissists have fragile egos, disagreeing with them can make them perceive you as being unfair or unreasonable.

6:54 p.m.

Yeah I don't think Sunny's argument was narcissistic

genesischaos

I'm not rehashing it, I explained it earlier

here

I mean I find it silly u can't explain yourself one more time, but I read Sunny's argument and it's just not narcissistic

Not continuing a fruitless argument

6:56 p.m.

I'll be back at a later time when hopefully others are on and decide to contribute

6:56 p.m.

slay ig

6:56 p.m.

Im sorry Sunny LMFAO

6:58 p.m.

Don't worry, u were just expressing your POE + thoughts

6:58 p.m.

ITS FINE LOL Sadbaby

Soo

3:10 a.m.

Hammer?

Hello

4:24 a.m.

Seems like

4:24 a.m.

Uh

4:24 a.m.

Things have gotten a weird thrn

4:24 a.m.

Turn

4:24 a.m.

Not a lot of votes???

4:24 a.m.

Alsooooo

4:25 a.m.

Wait for meee

4:25 a.m.

I need to say

4:25 a.m.

Like

4:25 a.m.

A lot

4:25 a.m.

Question though

4:25 a.m.

Why am I voted??

4:26 a.m.

I mean, I get why I am a suspected wolf

4:26 a.m.

But I wonder why specifically me

4:26 a.m.

:^

4:26 a.m.

I'll put input later

Ziel :D

I'll put input later

You said this last time

4:29 a.m.

And did nothing

I cannot blame you for that

4:30 a.m.

*for saying that

4:30 a.m.

Because it was my fault

4:30 a.m.

But I will this time

4:30 a.m.

Circumstances change

4:30 a.m.

:^

charlie

did you change your pfp

Yeah to some random ass guy

how come

Because of thing, I'll take even more time before coming back…

5:06 a.m.

*things

genesischaos

how come

bc it’s funny

charlie

bc it’s funny

XD Sounds fair.

so other than the debate last night

6:19 a.m.

nothing really happened

6:19 a.m.

I think the only thing I can gather from Callahan and Genesis is that they are TvT

so if you believe that gen's town, then it's just lily/ziel

I keep hearing Mason claims did anyone actually hardclaim Mason yet?

7:26 a.m.

as right now, depending on who is PoE, it would be Sunny, Ziel or Lily, but if one of them claimed Mason, then that would narrow it down to 2

7:26 a.m.

out of the 3, Ziel is the most suspicious, so I'll be voting Ziel

7:27 a.m.

Er, it wont let me vote

7:27 a.m.

it's /vote [Player Name] right?

Halara Nightmare (Duncan)

I keep hearing Mason claims did anyone actually hardclaim Mason yet?

sunny + EOTH (who is now nito) came out as masons

Halara Nightmare (Duncan)

it's /vote [Player Name] right?

/vote, then click player and type their name to search it

Halara Nightmare (Duncan)

I keep hearing Mason claims did anyone actually hardclaim Mason yet?

Me and Nito have hard-claimed Mason

Oh people replaced people

8:13 a.m.

I see...

8:13 a.m.

I'm catching up now

charlie

I'm a bit confused on why you voted Ane over EOTH, when EOTH's read seems to be a bit more in depth?

Ohhh Hiii replying to this right now... I did it because Ane Wolfiness shouted to me more than what I said about EOTH

Anemoia/Abyss

Also why does Gullio even tr me even though there's suspicious stuff piled on me?

Lucky, I got Null, right?

Anemoia/Abyss

But Ziel is doing it without good reason except for like- "Dad Jokes hihihi"

Talkking to a ghost-- it's more of a feel with posts as an outline I don't know how to word it--

charlie

Yeah this seems wayyyyy more like ziel, then a white knight

I guess it does... XD

Guillo

White Knight is when a scum defends a townie to make them look partnered. Which is different from pocketing, pocketing is earning the townies favor by any means necessary.

:O That's deep...

lilypetal

the part about me is really weird lol

I agree... I'm revising it heavily :^

Anemoia/Abyss

Sorry Ziel :>

(Sorry as well T^T... I'm bad at this game--)

SUNNY!!

Me and Nito have hard-claimed Mason

oki

Anemoia/Abyss

Nge has died R.I.P. XXXX-2023

Premonition

Ngekop

Ziel even asked me for permission to out a sl on me that game and hesitated on doing so

Metaaaaa

8:56 a.m.

OKAY

8:56 a.m.

I ADMIT IT

8:56 a.m.

I'M BAD AT BEING A TOWN T^T

8:56 a.m.

I'll just try again

Ngekop

For instance calla and ziel def arent

I didn't know other people didn't see it that way

okay so want me to hammer?

Yee

you sureee sus

Wow

9:08 a.m.

I don't ever want people hammering me unless this is another game and I have protections

9:08 a.m.

Oh

9:08 a.m.

Wait

9:09 a.m.

That's for kills

9:09 a.m.

;-;

9:09 a.m.

Please don't hammerrrr

9:09 a.m.

I'm still making my reads and fulfilling to make my will

day's ending today regardless, and you have maj you've had a lot of time

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

I don't know where I said that, but I was only saying that Guillo was not a hard wolf lean, or more as null, but I hope you look forward to my posts :'>

I hope everyone's ready for meeeeee

9:51 a.m.

READS:

Ngekop (Hard Town Read -> Confirmed Town)
- (I TOLD YOU SO!!! Mixed emotions... this is such a relief, knowing Nge is town but more of a pain because I was right about him and death confirmed him ;-;)

9:51 a.m.

Before dying, he left thoughts, of course. Which are:

He thinks I am scum (sadly...) His PoE is Ziel/Genesis/EOTH. Genesis is a good lynch because if EOTH really is mason, and Nge's greatness comes shining through, Genesis will be a good lynch. Me being a part of it is a let-down, when I know in myself whether I am not town or am.

9:51 a.m.

That's supposed to be subpoint okie

9:51 a.m.

Anemoia[>>>Abyss] (Wolf Lean -> Confirmed Town)
- I find it surprising that Ane is Town. It was a purely reasonable reason for voting... Do you think the wagon is pure town? . I don't. Guillo seems suspicious jumping on a wagon with two of his scum leans, namely me and Sunny.

9:51 a.m.

genesischaos (IA, Null Scum -> Strong Town Lean)
- I think this is one of the cases where I think Genesis is town because he thinks I'm wolf for the most sensible reasons. I also cannot believer I survived D1 lynch when I was top wagon and I started the next (which is based on my reasoning but I don't think of it too much because my reason is legitimate for me. I am thanking you for your sensibility. I feel like this is a strong and good reason for me to follow their reads. (Of course not about me because I always get wolf read whether I am town or not.)

9:52 a.m.

Callahan (Strong Town Lean)
- Calla is how she is as town. She ALWAYS helps town progress. I haven't been in a game where Calla is mafia, but I can see sincere towniness now that the wolfy filter is gone. She always explains in-depthly, resulting in game progress. She did so ever since the beginningggg!!!

9:52 a.m.

SUNNY (Town Lean -> ~~Almost~~ Confirmed Town)
- I don't get Sunny. I think you, Sunny, are town. And there's the Mason claim which I wholeheartedly believe to be legitimate. No one argues with it.

9:53 a.m.

EasyOnTheHills -> Nito (Wolf Lean -> ~~Almost~~ Confirmed Town)
- I believe Sunny and EOTH's claims are true and there would be no need to believe otherwise unless someone counterclaims. Which, no one is.

9:53 a.m.

I didn't dwell on them much because the facts are mostly right there

9:53 a.m.

lilypetal (Town Lean -> Potential Scum)
- I don't know where to start and end this. I believe Lily's town but based on my list, you're the least town, and I am lacking one mafia, so... ahhhhhhhh!! Putting you to Wolf Suspect for now until I find other fur trails...

9:53 a.m.

Guillo -> Duncan (Scum Lean)
- I am not SLing Guillo because of voting Ane Town, but because of jumping in on a wagon (I don't think he agreed to, yet Nge did so as well) where me and Sunny are. If I'm wrong about this I don't know anymore :<.

9:53 a.m.

SO

9:54 a.m.

To conclude

9:55 a.m.

Town Nge Ane genesischaos Callahan SUNNY!! EOTH/Nito Lily Guillo/Duncan Wolf

9:55 a.m.

Thereforeeeeee

9:55 a.m.

With that

9:55 a.m.

I am gonna head to bed

9:55 a.m.

My head is aching with all this thinking

9:55 a.m.

:^

9:55 a.m.

GUILLO SHOULD BE VOTED OUT

9:56 a.m.

Not like this is gonna change votes

9:56 a.m.

But town really should

9:56 a.m.

:^

9:56 a.m.

Slot

9:56 a.m.

Guillo slot

yeah

10:01 a.m.

just end the day

10:01 a.m.

lol

Yeah

10:05 a.m.

Hammer me

10:06 a.m.

I'm only one other town

if ziel flips town lily/gen or calla/duncan imo

Yeahh

10:08 a.m.

PoE

10:08 a.m.

Is amazing

10:08 a.m.

I think we'll be able to win

10:08 a.m.

As long as Masons are Masons

Day 3 Top

Caitlin pinned a message to this channel. 2023-11-07 7:14 p.m.

Hola

Alo

7:20 p.m.

It's oki Lune

Ag rip Sunny

Ziel :D

That's impossible, because I don't see you in mafia-chat

Lmao

Ziel :D

genesischaos (IA, Null Scum)
- Busy, maybe? Negatively busy. Not much to go on. ;-;. They leave a bad impression.

I still think this is partnered af

7:28 p.m.

I've almost fully read spew. Still feel the same as yesterday

7:28 p.m.

Gene -> calla game should end. It should just be gene

I like how ur the second in my thing

Gene -> Lily

charlie

I like how ur the second in my thing

Gene -> Lily

i think that's logical

12:14 a.m.

regardless of alignment rly

12:14 a.m.

if ur a wolf im ur f3 ml

12:14 a.m.

if it's guillo's slot we probs find eachother in f3

12:14 a.m.

and it's chill

Well considering I'm not Mafia, and Guillo was not on Ziel's team I highly suggest you reconsider

1:56 a.m.

I wouldn't have argued with the others in that way and needlessly put suspicion on myself unless I was actually trying to work out who Maf is

1:56 a.m.

In my mind its lily -> calla

genesischaos

Well considering I'm not Mafia, and Guillo was not on Ziel's team I highly suggest you reconsider

What do you mean by this?

2:26 a.m.

Like what confirmation did you get that Guillo was not on Ziel's team?

charlie

Like what confirmation did you get that Guillo was not on Ziel's team?

Well there isn't such a thing as confirmation in this game until people are voted off, but iirc you agreed with me

charlie

Yeah they aren’t

here

charlie

What do you mean by this?

I mean what I typed, it's a bad vote because im town

2:48 a.m.

Oh you're objecting to my use of the word "was". I said "was" because I'm referring to a comment I made in the past

2:49 a.m.

So according to my earlier statement, I said that Guillo and Ziel were not on the same team, and I'm restating that

genesischaos

In my mind its lily -> calla

Why me first

genesischaos

Well considering I'm not Mafia, and Guillo was not on Ziel's team I highly suggest you reconsider

Where is guillo conf town?

genesischaos

So according to my earlier statement, I said that Guillo and Ziel were not on the same team, and I'm restating that

Idgi

6:14 a.m.

Why am I a wolf exactly besides voting you

6:14 a.m.

I won't accept poe reasons

lilypetal

Why me first

Well it's either you or calla assuming my call on Guillo is correct. I'm putting more sus on you because of the conversation I had earlier with Calla where it looked like she was trying to use reasoning (even though I didn't agree with all of it) and was engaging with me

lilypetal

Where is guillo conf town?

When did I say he was "conf" town? I just said you can't confirm anything until people are voted off

Which conversation

6:15 a.m.

In day 2?

genesischaos

When did I say he was "conf" town? I just said you can't confirm anything until people are voted off

Yeah I see your posts were just weird

My logic was that he was on opposite teams to Ziel if I read the ane votes properly

genesischaos

My logic was that he was on opposite teams to Ziel if I read the ane votes properly

Can you explain this?

lilypetal

I won't accept poe reasons

And you're actually doing it again, complaining rather than engaging with what i said

6:16 a.m.

Calla was much more cooperative

lilypetal

Can you explain this?

I can link the post

genesischaos

I had to finish my thoughts, it was distracting me when I studied: I don’t think Guillo+Ziel are maf together, it’s devastating getting a mafia voted off n1. It wouldn’t make sense for Ziel to change her mind about Guillo getting voted off, only for Guillo to vote for his mafia buddy Ziel (when the tide turned). So I’m suggesting either Guillo or Ziel is mafia or they’re both town. If they’re both town, by elimination that makes Callahan and lily mafia. So the pairs I have are Calla/lily (nge didn’t have) Guillo/Calla (nge didn’t have) Guillo/lily (nge didn’t have) Ziel/calla (nge didn’t have) Ziel/lily (nge didn’t have) Which inclines me to disregard nge’s conclusions, or maybe I’m overthinking and the collaboration between Guillo and Ziel was not good and the outcome was serendipitous.

this one here

That's not complaining I'm just telling you that unless your reasoning for putting me first is good I'll vote u

genesischaos

Calla was much more cooperative

Cooperative doesn't mean town btw

So based on the post I linked it has to be you or Calla given my call on Guillo is correct

genesischaos

I had to finish my thoughts, it was distracting me when I studied: I don’t think Guillo+Ziel are maf together, it’s devastating getting a mafia voted off n1. It wouldn’t make sense for Ziel to change her mind about Guillo getting voted off, only for Guillo to vote for his mafia buddy Ziel (when the tide turned). So I’m suggesting either Guillo or Ziel is mafia or they’re both town. If they’re both town, by elimination that makes Callahan and lily mafia. So the pairs I have are Calla/lily (nge didn’t have) Guillo/Calla (nge didn’t have) Guillo/lily (nge didn’t have) Ziel/calla (nge didn’t have) Ziel/lily (nge didn’t have) Which inclines me to disregard nge’s conclusions, or maybe I’m overthinking and the collaboration between Guillo and Ziel was not good and the outcome was serendipitous.

Meh this doesn't feel like much

lilypetal

Cooperative doesn't mean town btw

Okay, then I can dismiss the way anyone plays the game then

6:17 a.m.

Either it's all relevant, or none of it is

Like I get your point and it's probs right because guillo's slot was already towny but it feels a lil stretchy

Lily I'm just trying to work out who mafia is

6:18 a.m.

I'm not trying to be antagonistic

Where was calla cooperative?

I'm using my faculties as I can

genesischaos

I'm not trying to be antagonistic

Wat

lilypetal

Where was calla cooperative?

Well I'm interpreting Calla engaging with what I'm saying as being cooperative

Where

6:19 a.m.

Today or day 2

It would've been day 2

6:19 a.m.

Ill link where I mean

Alright

6:19 a.m.

Yeah please do

charlie

I just realized I miss read what you said, ignore what I said

this part of the convo

Seems like a low bar. Just a misunderstanding

6:21 a.m.

Hard to really read that as AI imo

AI?

Alignment indicative

6:22 a.m.

I'm basically saying that calla's posts there don't really feel like of game importance, it's something I could see someone making as either alignment

lilypetal

Seems like a low bar. Just a misunderstanding

I am preferencing chat activity because it seemed like she was trying to find mafs

Because as a wolf or town she could misread your post

I'm not highlighting the fact that she disagreed with me or misunderstood me per se, I'm highlighting the fact that she was engaging wiht me

I'm engaging with you rn

6:23 a.m.

Am I town for that or bottom poe

6:24 a.m.

Wolves have to fake processes

She engaged with my reasoning behind the ane vote in more detail

6:24 a.m.

Still a bit insufficient but it was enough to convince me she's switched on

lilypetal

I'm engaging with you rn

Which is good

Tbh I don't really like callas posting there at all

6:25 a.m.

Kinda sr it

Can you explain why you sr it

Unsure. Maybe playstyle clash

6:27 a.m.

I'll probs read calla's iso tomorrow

6:27 a.m.

Gn

before you go

6:27 a.m.

is it US time the day ends?

6:27 a.m.

want to make sure I'm not asleep again

alo

@Halara Nightmare (Duncan) whats ur solve

My solve?

genesischaos

Well considering I'm not Mafia, and Guillo was not on Ziel's team I highly suggest you reconsider

When I read this this morning it felt tmi, but I havent had time today to actually discuss it or read it more thoroughly @lilypetal Reason it feels TMI is because they knew Guillo (My Slot) was not on Ziels team, or thats how it is worded at least.

like

4:57 p.m.

whats ur poe

4:57 p.m.

its gene and who then

There's only one Mafia left, so I think it's Genesis, if not I wonder if it's been quiet scum all game

4:59 p.m.

idt there has been a lot of interference, I may reflect what could be TvT

5:00 p.m.

Who was the other Mason again?

5:01 p.m.

OH

5:01 p.m.

Nito came out as the mason

5:01 p.m.

I forgot that thwt've barely been here

5:01 p.m.

at all

5:01 p.m.

they've

5:01 p.m.

*

5:02 p.m.

Genesis, Callahan, Lily, Myself and Nito is left

5:03 p.m.

Nito is Mason with 0 debate

Funny memes

6:18 p.m.

Got prodded

6:18 p.m.

>I'm still thinking

oop

7:14 p.m.

did not

7:14 p.m.

mean for myself to be prodded

7:14 p.m.

I still think gene is the right choice

7:14 p.m.

sorry I been busy

Halara Nightmare (Duncan)

When I read this this morning it felt tmi, but I havent had time today to actually discuss it or read it more thoroughly @lilypetal Reason it feels TMI is because they knew Guillo (My Slot) was not on Ziels team, or thats how it is worded at least.

I clearly outlined why it was very unlikely for Guillo to be on Ziel's team

10:19 p.m.

If me giving you my conclusions is TMI then what's the point in saying anythinf

charlie

I still think gene is the right choice

Well unless I misread my role card I can tell you it is not the right choice

lilypetal

I'll probs read calla's iso tomorrow

What did you think

genesischaos

Oh you're objecting to my use of the word "was". I said "was" because I'm referring to a comment I made in the past

I also suggest Duncan read this

genesischaos

What did you think

O

3:21 a.m.

I kinda forgot abt mafia

genesischaos

If me giving you my conclusions is TMI then what's the point in saying anythinf

This feels a bit caught for the wrong reasons ngl

lilypetal

This feels a bit caught for the wrong reasons ngl

idk what that means

As in it feels like you're frustration comes from feeling like you're caught for something that isn't even that wolfy

Well I can't be caught for anything considering I'm not mafia, but I am kinda confused/frustrated that that Duncan/Guillo even susses me here

What do you think of their catchup

3:26 a.m.

And thoughts

3:26 a.m.

Still towny?

Well I'm not ruling out the possibility of me being wrong

I think my problem with you rn is twofold

3:27 a.m.

1) spew looks bad and I don't rly vibe with your play

3:27 a.m.

2) you're voting me and I don't buy that I'm a wolfread for anyone

lilypetal

1) spew looks bad and I don't rly vibe with your play

Spew?

lilypetal

2) you're voting me and I don't buy that I'm a wolfread for anyone

I still think it's you or Calla

As in ziel's treatment of you was partnered

genesischaos

I still think it's you or Calla

Yeah but you're still voting town

3:28 a.m.

Lmao

lilypetal

Yeah but you're still voting town

Well I can't go based on what you say alone if I think there's a high chance youre maf

There's a high chance I'm a wolf?

3:29 a.m.

Why

lilypetal

As in ziel's treatment of you was partnered

Ziel hardly even posted in the chat, which is why I was fine voting her out

genesischaos

Ziel hardly even posted in the chat, which is why I was fine voting her out

She had a lot of posts wdym

No, she posted a lot at the end of the day right before she was about to be voted

Had a lot of posts day 1

And she posted right before the previous day before the vote changed to ane, then she left early

lilypetal

Had a lot of posts day 1

They didn't really add anything to the convo

Doesn't change the fact she left spew

3:30 a.m.

Well yeah she was a wolf

I think I said this in my schizo post

Why is there a high chance I'm a wolf

It's the same reason as before

I was under the impression your vote was just like a shrug you sorta tr calla and tr guillo slot (edited)

There is 1 mason, 1 "confirmed" townie, and that leaves you and Calla

Now it's high chance?

well 50% is a high chance

3:31 a.m.

its much higher than 25%

That's not a reason to vote tho. A coin flip is w/e

3:31 a.m.

Look, regardless of alignment you're dying today unless you work with me

lilypetal

That's not a reason to vote tho. A coin flip is w/e

why is this surprising to you? i've already said this and now you're acting differently this time

So why vote me

lilypetal

Look, regardless of alignment you're dying today unless you work with me

well if maf kills me that'd be dumb with a mason alive

3:32 a.m.

especially with you sussing me

No like everyone alive wants to elim you

(assuming its Calla)

lilypetal

No like everyone alive wants to elim you

They haven't even read the recent convo

I don't think it'll change much

3:33 a.m.

They're all afk

3:33 a.m.

Sucks if you're town

wasnt callahan here at the same time the previous day

3:33 a.m.

or was that a few hours later

Because I don't think I get there and duncan/calla are kinda silent

"I don't think I get there"?

3:36 a.m.

Hmm

lilypetal

Because I don't think I get there and duncan/calla are kinda silent

The more I think about it

3:37 a.m.

Calla's very last messages were kind of completely unhelpful (she continued the argument about sunny for no reason, to try to make me look bad). And the fact that she's not here now and you are means you're more willing to find the evil (or you're doing a high IQ play)

Just trying to solve

Then drops a message the next day

3:38 a.m.

Saying "I think gene is the right choice"

I'm gonna sleep, I'll reread stuff and maybe change my mind tomorrow

ill unvote for now then

If you unvote I will too then

its AUS time here so if I'm not here I'm asleep

But I do think I'll vote you and worse case scenario I clutch in f3

but ill be up before 10 tomorrow

Yeah I figure

alright sleep well

genesischaos

Calla's very last messages were kind of completely unhelpful (she continued the argument about sunny for no reason, to try to make me look bad). And the fact that she's not here now and you are means you're more willing to find the evil (or you're doing a high IQ play)

girl? I'm just actually busy in real life, it doesn't mean I'm less willing to find evil LOL? You literally called Sunny a narcissist like tf ?

10:13 a.m.

I'm pretty sure 100% its just gene now, if we reach a f3 which I don't find at all likely, I'm more than willing to reread every single message in this game and reanalyze it all.

10:17 a.m.

I do apologize for not giving this game more time, but I'm kind of stacked with outside stuff such as my studies, which I find more important than a mafia. So, I apologize regardless if that is upsetting.

10:17 a.m.

The only thing I actually been thinking due to last game I been with Ziel when she was mafia, is her read list

10:20 a.m.

Last game she thought Nge was mafia, when she was mafia, and nge was actually mafia that game as well, while she did place Guillo's slot as mafia throughout the whole game, his overall gameplay excuses the doubt for right now, if we reach a f3 I'll look more into it, but at this point I'm pretty sure it just Gene.

10:23 a.m.

Gene expanded on several people last day, and gave odds to all of us as mafia expect Guillo's slot, rather than just a set POE, which I'm pretty sure was trying to cause people to not vote Ziel. We had the most USELESS convo, and even though I was a potential mafia in his eyes, he didn't even try to push me, I kept asking repeatedly what is the issue? But there wasn't? There was no issue at all with anything I done.

10:28 a.m.

You don't know how to push anybody as a potential mafia because there is nothing to push and you use EOD knowledge, you ignored the rest of the days like? You limited yourself to a specific time frame to make your ideas make sense and open the possibilities to other slots

genesischaos

Saying "I think gene is the right choice"

Bc your in my POE?

I truly think the only reason why Lily is higher than me in your POE is because Duncan said about your whole argument and me responding back was most likely a t/t interaction.

genesischaos

There is 1 mason, 1 "confirmed" townie, and that leaves you and Calla

Guillo slot isn't a confirmed slot, it's just way more likely town than mafia.

10:49 a.m.

Due to how the day played out, before omg? EOD?

Yeh it's just like not calla here

2:19 p.m.

Lmao

charlie

You don't know how to push anybody as a potential mafia because there is nothing to push and you use EOD knowledge, you ignored the rest of the days like? You limited yourself to a specific time frame to make your ideas make sense and open the possibilities to other slots

Specifically I vibe with this a lot

2:20 p.m.

I just feel like gene's solving is peculiar

charlie

You don't know how to push anybody as a potential mafia because there is nothing to push and you use EOD knowledge, you ignored the rest of the days like? You limited yourself to a specific time frame to make your ideas make sense and open the possibilities to other slots

and that would explain the lack of game interference

2:24 p.m.

If Scum is only focusing on EOD then there they lose leverage in throwing shade and pushing players based on overall content

2:29 p.m.

I'll place my vote as I wont be online for EoD most likely, but my vote will be Gene, I'm still adamant on my own thoughts and Callahan's point regarding Gene adds to it I think, regarding Gene's main point of content being solely EoD Related, tying in with the lack of informative debate

EoD

Omg hi

11:46 a.m.

Thank u for voting me imgaslightingyou

funny

@charlie GRATZ

Seany148

@charlie GRATZ

OMG THANK U ❤️

I'm not making it NOOO

2:49 p.m.

RIP the dream

Gl to the semi advances and I hope to see one of y’all at least in there!

charlie

Thank u for voting me imgaslightingyou

I didnt know who to vote after you and lily lmao

Halara Nightmare (Duncan)

funny

Why didnt you want to advance idgi

3:25 p.m.

But rip ig

oh i can talk here

3:32 p.m.

gg to whoever won

3:32 p.m.

you played

3:32 p.m.

well

3:32 p.m.

i can assume that

3:32 p.m.

cus you won

3:32 p.m.

if you didnt win

3:32 p.m.

then you also probably played well

3:32 p.m.

i cant assume that

3:32 p.m.

cus you didnt win

3:32 p.m.

but uh

3:32 p.m.

whatever

Ngekop

I didnt know who to vote after you and lily lmao

I voted for u, lily, guillo so duncan, and sunny

I ended up voting uh

3:42 p.m.

Calla lily abyss duncan

i voted duncan, nge, calla, and nito lmao

>not sure why I was voted at all lol

Halara Nightmare (Duncan)

>not sure why I was voted at all lol

Who else tbf

4:14 p.m.

Also ig guillo kinda had smth to do with it

4:15 p.m.

Hard to like rank replacements tbf especially when they enter when the game is p much solved

Ggs

Ngekop

Calla lily abyss duncan

Meh? Tanks I voted Nge, Calla, Duncan, Lily

Congrat guys and sorry i had to sub out

It's fine!

Guillo

Congrat guys and sorry i had to sub out

I wouldve voted you without any doubt ngl

5:52 p.m.

Maybe 3rd but still

Why did it send twice wtf

Who knows