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Caitlin pinned a message to this channel. 2023-11-01 6:59 p.m.
7:00 p.m.
Uh
7:01 p.m.
How was your day?
7:01 p.m.
The bot
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It's working, trust
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charlie
How was your day?
Not bad
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Are you going to ask me how my day was 😭
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good evening compatriots
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Good evening nods
7:03 p.m.
It looks like there is hammer day one, which is something
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 7:03 p.m.
Hello
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wazzup
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 7:03 p.m.
Excited for this game!
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Is there a reason why?
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@4th Anniversary Finalist if you cant find the game
7:05 p.m.
Its this channel
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charlie
Is there a reason why?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 7:07 p.m.
Because it's a tournament
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 7:07 p.m.
I've never done a tournament before
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I was very nervous my first tournament, so I'm happy you find this exciting haha
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-01 7:08 p.m.
7:08 p.m.
me omw to find the mafia
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 7:08 p.m.
Lol, I want some more experience and this is one way to gain more imo
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Oh you aren't here for the money nods
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 7:09 p.m.
Nope! (The role sounds nice tho)
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Yeah, you get $250+ if you win
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Lol riiiiight
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charlie
Oh you aren't here for the money nods
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 7:10 p.m.
(I don't have any online money thing for it, unless it's a gift card code)
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Anemoia/Abyss
(I don't have any online money thing for it, unless it's a gift card code)
I think it's through nitro?
7:10 p.m.
Not sure though...
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i didn't even know there was a prize 😭
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charlie
Yeah, you get $250+ if you win
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 7:10 p.m.
I don't anticipate winning anyways, but my goal is to at least get through one thingy
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Wait it is real? There is money on the line?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 7:11 p.m.
In Nitro pretty sure, like Callahan said
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I didn't join for the money either, I wanted experience as well 😭 I just want to see if I have improved or not
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 7:11 p.m.
Oh-
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Anyways, hi guys, im Mafia
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 7:11 p.m.
W
7:12 p.m.
Hi Mafiaaa
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How you doing?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 7:12 p.m.
Good, good
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What unlucky bastard is gonna get factional nightkilled by me tonight?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 7:13 p.m.
Not me
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everyone except me
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SUNNY!!
everyone except me
Oh ok
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I actually am kind of :/ on the fact there is NK, because if you get killed N1 or lynched D1, then you are fucked and you can't advance I don't think so...
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There is one there
7:13 p.m.
Easy catch that one
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Guillo
Anyways, hi guys, im Mafia
believable
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Also there is targeting that can happen with NK
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charlie
I actually am kind of :/ on the fact there is NK, because if you get killed N1 or lynched D1, then you are fucked and you can't advance I don't think so...
isnt being killed N1 a good thing?
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Sunny slipped, discuss
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what did i do 😭
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Guillo
Sunny slipped, discuss
where
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SUNNY!!
everyone except me
Lol
7:15 p.m.
a bit of a yoke i see..
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lilypetal
isnt being killed N1 a good thing?
Well, not unless you want to advance, I don't think personally, me, using me as a example, can solve the game in one day, so I'm like if I die N1 or get lynched D1 then my chances of going to semi's is like fucked?
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i see
7:15 p.m.
i didnt read like
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how u quali further
7:15 p.m.
LOL
7:15 p.m.
i didnt read anything
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I'm pretty sure we are being graded by performance
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oh well thats ez
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Ez, i will not be graded at a.l
7:16 p.m.
All
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based
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Is this lily as in lilypetal?
7:17 p.m.
changed it for u
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Cool. I expect you to towntell today
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i most likely will
7:17 p.m.
or already have
7:17 p.m.
who knows!
7:17 p.m.
i kinda think ur a wolf tho
7:17 p.m.
and saying that is also kinda wolfy
7:17 p.m.
so eh
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charlie
Are you going to ask me how my day was 😭
Sorry i was busy
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i think you're likely to be truthful in claiming mafia in your first posts
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Yah im a wolf what are you gonna do about it?
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Anemoia/Abyss
Excited for this game!
Why
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depends on my wim
7:18 p.m.
nge is towny
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lilypetal
i think you're likely to be truthful in claiming mafia in your first posts
I mean if he was a new player I would put him as a town lean, but I know he has 20+ yearsofn experience so 😭
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What if i threaten you with killing you tonight if you are town
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Guillo
What if i threaten you with killing you tonight if you are town
oh nooo soooo scary ><
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Ngekop
Sorry i was busy
Still waiting... on my how was my day 😭
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charlie
I mean if he was a new player I would put him as a town lean, but I know he has 20+ yearsofn experience so 😭
why?
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lilypetal
why?
Skill level
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charlie
I mean if he was a new player I would put him as a town lean, but I know he has 20+ yearsofn experience so 😭
20 years??! no way 💔
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EasyOnTheHills
me omw to find the mafia
I wish we couldve done it together ;-;
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Did you see that logic lily?
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charlie
Yeah, you get $250+ if you win
125*
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charlie
Skill level
sorry, why does a new player claiming wolf = town lean?
7:19 p.m.
why does 20 years of experience mean it's no longer AI
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lilypetal
sorry, why does a new player claiming wolf = town lean?
Okay so, let me place it out, I don't think a new player can open wolf properly.
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charlie
Okay so, let me place it out, I don't think a new player can open wolf properly.
ah
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Guillo
Anyways, hi guys, im Mafia
I believe it
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so you think a newer player/less skilled player is more likely to not be able to play the persona that Guillo embodies here?
7:20 p.m.
thus it's NAI gameplay
7:20 p.m.
because he's experienced
7:20 p.m.
correct?
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And im openwolfing properly?
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As a new player you are often scared of messing up and leading anything back to you, so I just don't see it, now if Sunny was like Im mafia, I would be yeah sure that is townie because I know he would be too scared to claim mafia as mafia.
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charlie
I actually am kind of :/ on the fact there is NK, because if you get killed N1 or lynched D1, then you are fucked and you can't advance I don't think so...
Wdym lmfao
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What is openwolfing properly?
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N1 kills advance all the time
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Ngekop
N1 kills advance all the time
Are you serious LOL
7:21 p.m.
OKAY NVM
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lilypetal
isnt being killed N1 a good thing?
As cit fs imo
7:21 p.m.
As mason ehhhh
7:21 p.m.
Unless ofc you lynched a maf d1 or smth
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Callahan/Ngekop not aligned
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lilypetal
correct?
Yeah basically, I'm not going to ignore someone's experience level, and I'm going to be more wary of them, which is reasonable..?
7:22 p.m.
I played with Gullio before, he has a high scum range
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alright callahan i appreciate it
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lilypetal
i kinda think ur a wolf tho
Why
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Guillo
Callahan/Ngekop not aligned
doesn't seem like any of that was not w/w
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Ngekop
Why
guillo is more likely to openwolf as a wolf imo
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Ngekop distances as wolf not pockets another wolf
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but i also kinda said that to get a reaction
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Guillo
Ngekop distances as wolf not pockets another wolf
gotcha
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So it is either or, or none
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lilypetal
nge is towny
Tf
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Nge is scummy actually
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lilypetal
guillo is more likely to openwolf as a wolf imo
Okay noted.
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Guillo
Nge is scummy actually
why
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Because he knows that as a wolf im a nice guy
7:24 p.m.
I give everyone flowers
7:25 p.m.
Dedicate songs
7:25 p.m.
Quite the romantic actually
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charlie
Are you serious LOL
Yes 100%
7:25 p.m.
Especially with cait as host
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I'd have everyone in my pocket by… tomorrow
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Im p sure any cit killed n1 advances
7:25 p.m.
Like 90% sure
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Oh okay so I can play more relax, I was like shit I have to figure out the game in one day incase I die early 💀
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D1 lynch is different
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Ngekop
D1 lynch is different
What do you mean
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Guillo
Callahan/Ngekop not aligned
Oh boy we already started
7:26 p.m.
Last time i was maf and i tr’d you for it
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Nge saying he believes it when here specifically we played together and knows ima nice wolfy guy
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Idk what you are talking about 🔥
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stares
7:27 p.m.
Who else just spoke modcheck
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What is not clear for you?
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I just don't remember him ever saying that so
7:28 p.m.
Like ever
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charlie
Oh okay so I can play more relax, I was like shit I have to figure out the game in one day incase I die early 💀
this seems like a pre-thought thing
7:29 p.m.
idk
7:29 p.m.
i dont like it lol
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Well yeah...?
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like Look guys im so towny
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I want to advanced ?
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I mean the outcome of the conversation
7:29 p.m.
Calla gives me the LAMIST vibes
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I think your nitpicking right now, but its the beginning of the day so I'm not really caring that much
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And Calla is not a newbie
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Not rly nitpicking, it's lamist like guillo said
7:30 p.m.
tone is off
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Okay so how is it LAMIST>
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Alright lily towntold, welcome to my pocket lily
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I'm basically saying you're faking not knowing how the system works for towny points
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I meant towncore ahem
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uhuh guillo
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How am I faking it? I generally believed it?
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charlie
Well, not unless you want to advance, I don't think personally, me, using me as a example, can solve the game in one day, so I'm like if I die N1 or get lynched D1 then my chances of going to semi's is like fucked?
Here...?
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charlie
How am I faking it? I generally believed it?
Generally?
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Seems nitpicking JJKGetoShrug1 JJKGetoShrug2
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charlie
Oh okay so I can play more relax, I was like shit I have to figure out the game in one day incase I die early 💀
This is a LAMIST post. This is a post going "Look guys, im town. I'm a villager worried about having to solve"
7:32 p.m.
And look. You could be a town making a LAMIST post
7:32 p.m.
but that's why im immediately sus of you
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I'm town so I don't really care if you think its LAMIST or not, because omg? I am?
7:32 p.m.
Okay, I hope you stop being sus as the day goes on then ig
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Be towny and I'll tr it
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Um okayeveryonewasgagged
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Guillo
Ngekop distances as wolf not pockets another wolf
How did i pocket calla wat
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Guillo
Nge is scummy actually
Then why did you vote calla in us 2
7:33 p.m.
Lmao
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Guillo
Because he knows that as a wolf im a nice guy
So?
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charlie
What do you mean
I dont see how a d1 lynch can advance lmao
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I would say having correct reads
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Unless everyone else is awful or it is a maf lynched d1 who made god tier distancing setting their teammate up
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Ngekop
Why
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 7:35 p.m.
Already stated why, look down from that post about 5 msgs
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charlie
I would say having correct reads
Ehhh
7:35 p.m.
Maybe ig
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You’re right
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But that would actually like imply having a 2/2
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🥱 About to get 2/2 fr
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Guillo
Nge saying he believes it when here specifically we played together and knows ima nice wolfy guy
1. Not knowing you were my teammate 2. It’s obv my vote wasn’t serious
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lilypetal
this seems like a pre-thought thing
Which is why i tl it actually
7:37 p.m.
It seems real thought said forcefully
7:37 p.m.
Which is actually stuff calla does all the time
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meta thats meaningless to me
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Ngekop
Then why did you vote calla in us 2
Im flip floping between you
7:38 p.m.
I need to turn on notifications here
7:38 p.m.
I meant off
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lilypetal
meta thats meaningless to me
Didn't you just use meta on Guillo....?
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lilypetal
guillo is more likely to openwolf as a wolf imo
Here?
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i mean
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THAT meta is useless to me
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because i dont know you lol
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Ngekop
1. Not knowing you were my teammate 2. It’s obv my vote wasn’t serious
Every vote is serious to me in a tournament and you like to hide behind “not serious votes” as a wolf.
7:39 p.m.
Im gonna level with you though
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Anemoia/Abyss
Already stated why, look down from that post about 5 msgs
If you said bc you flipped town i woulda believed it
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lilypetal
THAT meta is useless to me
What is Guillo's town meta?
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Imagine losing a chance to get cleared for the whole game
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I only have Guillo's scum meta so...
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lilypetal
meta thats meaningless to me
Ok?
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I consider you a top of the line player here Nge, so im cautious of you
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Guillo
Im flip floping between you
Gth rn both are towns so you’re in an awful path
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charlie
Didn't you just use meta on Guillo....?
Lel
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sunny wyd
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Guillo
Every vote is serious to me in a tournament and you like to hide behind “not serious votes” as a wolf.
That’s true
7:41 p.m.
I however
7:41 p.m.
Dont take this more seriously than a regular game on this server
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lilypetal
sunny wyd
just like silently reading here 🙏🏼
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Guillo
I consider you a top of the line player here Nge, so im cautious of you
As you should
7:41 p.m.
I dont expect to be tr’d d1 lol
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thoughts?
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I expect to be a n1-3 kill
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Ngekop
Gth rn both are towns so you’re in an awful path
I dont think so, i’d bet my prestige on one of you being a wolf
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britneyjean Me waiting for Guillo's town meta
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Guillo
I dont think so, i’d bet my prestige on one of you being a wolf
Huh
7:42 p.m.
Interesting
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charlie
What is Guillo's town meta?
i dont have concrete meta on guillo hes just like a loose cannon lol
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Tbf i havent sr’d calla one single time in this server
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If i was a day vig i’d shoot one right now and if they flip town i yeet the other
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I however am way more confident on her town when she is
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Guillo
If i was a day vig i’d shoot one right now and if they flip town i yeet the other
Gl with that
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Ngekop
If you said bc you flipped town i woulda believed it
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 7:43 p.m.
Really? Yikes, I wouldn't believe it
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lilypetal
i dont have concrete meta on guillo hes just like a loose cannon lol
Oh okay, but you would say he is more likely to open wolf as scum though, and that's concrete enough to say?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 7:43 p.m.
Also hi back
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charlie
Oh okay, but you would say he is more likely to open wolf as scum though, and that's concrete enough to say?
yea
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Anemoia/Abyss
Really? Yikes, I wouldn't believe it
Nooooooooo
7:43 p.m.
Pls dont be scum
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Ngekop
Gl with that
Well you dont have to wish me luck cause there are no vigs lol
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Nooooooo
7:43 p.m.
;-;
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Interesting nods
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Ngekop
Pls dont be scum
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 7:43 p.m.
I'm not
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You are
7:43 p.m.
Like
7:44 p.m.
You p much
7:44 p.m.
Just gave that away like rn 😂
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Im confused
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Hi sunny
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Hi confused
7:44 p.m.
Im ngekop
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Ngekop
Just gave that away like rn 😂
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 7:44 p.m.
Heh?
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iam here
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😔 the dad jokes
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 7:44 p.m.
Hi Sunnnyyy
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Ngekop
As you should
So should i or should i not be serious in a tournament cause im getting mixed signals here
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Anemoia/Abyss
Heh?
You would be confident on you being town and on being aware i would either tmi it as maf or figure it out just like that
7:45 p.m.
Instead of actually thinking of what you say could get tr’d or not
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Guillo
So should i or should i not be serious in a tournament cause im getting mixed signals here
Uh
7:46 p.m.
Whatever you prefer? Lmao
7:46 p.m.
If you want to take it seriously i would def be aware of me nmw unless we were partners in any sense
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So should i be cautious of you? Or not?
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And if we were partners i’d fake it in your place
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Guillo
So should i be cautious of you? Or not?
Up to you
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What is this convo 😭
7:46 p.m.
Lol
7:47 p.m.
Guillo asking me how should he play and me responding
7:47 p.m.
Ok so
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Ngekop
Up to you
Why leave me the choice?
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Guillo why are you even asking him that though?
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No one talking about how i caught @Anemoia/Abyss and he’s currently frozen?
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why would he not leave you the choice
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charlie
Guillo why are you even asking him that though?
Let me cook
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Guillo
Why leave me the choice?
Bc it is your choice?
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SUNNY!!
why would he not leave you the choice
Love this kid
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Ngekop
No one talking about how i caught @Anemoia/Abyss and he’s currently frozen?
I'm a bit confused about how you caught him, like his "Also hi back?"
7:48 p.m.
You have to explain more tbf
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charlie
I'm a bit confused about how you caught him, like his "Also hi back?"
Does it even matter? He froze
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Guillo
Let me cook
I'm allowing you to have the kitchen
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Ngekop
Does it even matter? He froze
OHHHH
7:48 p.m.
💀
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Ngekop
You would be confident on you being town and on being aware i would either tmi it as maf or figure it out just like that
I said smth here and later btw
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Ngekop
Bc it is your choice?
Ok but why do you subconsciously think it may be prudent to be cautious of you in this game?
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Bc i consider myself a good player
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@Anemoia/Abyss Whats your thoughts right now
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Ngekop
Bc i consider myself a good player
Are you a threat to me?
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If you are mafia i’d hope so
7:49 p.m.
If you are town then no
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But you wouldnt know that
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So
7:49 p.m.
Then again idk what do you want from this
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Hmmm ok 🙂
7:50 p.m.
Wya
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If i told you it’d lose purpose
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Finish typing btw
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Guillo
If i told you it’d lose purpose
🤷‍♂️
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Ngekop
Finish typing btw
Who?
7:50 p.m.
He stopped to answer “here”
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Oh good
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And i saw him saying smth like “LET ME SPEAK” in like 1-2 games before
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@charlie if you had a gun who you’d shoot right now?
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Im telling him to just finish typing whatever he is saying
7:51 p.m.
And then see what was said in between
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Guillo
Are you a threat to me?
okay i was typing why do you keep asking those kinds of questions 💔 isn't that like something you should be figuring out yourself this is just really weird to me, unless this is some weird strat ☠
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Sunny confirm this to me pls
7:52 p.m.
You havent rolled scum in this server yet, right?
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Before this game at least
7:53 p.m.
Ok
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So yeah i have 0 meta on you
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Guillo
@charlie if you had a gun who you’d shoot right now?
I think you, because I don't know where your convo with Nge is leading to or what the intention behind it is. Because you seemed to be trying ig kind of game solve in the beginning but then you are now just asking random questions that don't seem to have a point other than to add confusion?
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Hey guys
7:53 p.m.
Can someone help me get like
7:54 p.m.
2-3 votes on abyss
7:54 p.m.
pingu
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Oh yeah
7:54 p.m.
I read how to scum hunt guide before this game dont even try me rn 🥱
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@Anemoia/Abyss why arent you answering to me ;-;
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charlie
I think you, because I don't know where your convo with Nge is leading to or what the intention behind it is. Because you seemed to be trying ig kind of game solve in the beginning but then you are now just asking random questions that don't seem to have a point other than to add confusion?
So an OMGUS shot because you dont understand me? You usually kill shit you don’t understand? That’s very…. Human
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That’s
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Guillo
So an OMGUS shot because you dont understand me? You usually kill shit you don’t understand? That’s very…. Human
I may or may not be human...
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Not how omgus works
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Guillo
So an OMGUS shot because you dont understand me? You usually kill shit you don’t understand? That’s very…. Human
what ARE you waffling about 💔
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@Ziel :D is here too!
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Ngekop
Not how omgus works
I’d appreciate you dont nose in
7:55 p.m.
You had your turn
7:56 p.m.
Now it is calla’s turn
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I think I'm like hmm about you right now Guillo because I haven't played with town you yet, only scum, and I remember your paragraphs as scum and you are playing so weirdly rn 😭
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are we passing around the talking stick rn it's a public channel 😔
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Which I dont know if its because you decided to open wolf or this is town you
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God can abyss say smth pls
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charlie
I think I'm like hmm about you right now Guillo because I haven't played with town you yet, only scum, and I remember your paragraphs as scum and you are playing so weirdly rn 😭
So you played with me as scum and my play is weirder than that play and im still scum? Interesting
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Guillo
Now it is calla’s turn
nods I'm ready
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Guillo
So you played with me as scum and my play is weirder than that play and im still scum? Interesting
You have to read my paragraph underneath...
7:57 p.m.
So uh
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charlie
You have to read my paragraph underneath...
This is why I'm also asking for town meta on you
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Me/guillo/calla/sunny/lily/abyss/ziel/easy/genesis
7:58 p.m.
GENESIS
7:58 p.m.
TRUE
7:58 p.m.
@genesischaos bro
7:58 p.m.
Wait you sleeping
7:58 p.m.
Nvm
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charlie
This is why I'm also asking for town meta on you
Ma57 d1
7:58 p.m.
Him as mayor
7:59 p.m.
That’s the only game not 6 months ago i have with him as town
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Ngekop
Ma57 d1
Okay I really don't wanna look through the old games to be honest, so is he acting the same here or no?
7:59 p.m.
EASY IS
7:59 p.m.
EOTH
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AKA CALLA’S BUDDY
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BROOOOO HE WAS MY MASON PARTNER Why
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IUFHIUEHFDRIUWE
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@Anemoia/Abyss WHYYYYYY
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WHAF HAPPENWD
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@SUNNY!! what am i
8:01 p.m.
What is calla
8:01 p.m.
Go
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um uhhm
8:02 p.m.
calla is calla nge is nge
8:03 p.m.
What about our roles
8:04 p.m.
@SUNNY!!
8:04 p.m.
You have to go 2/2 today
8:04 p.m.
I’ll help you tho
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But you gotta do your part
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i don't know your roles 😭 am i missing something
8:05 p.m.
It should be kinda obv
8:05 p.m.
Both my role and her role
8:07 p.m.
So im asking you to find them
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citizens...?
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Are you asking me or telling me
8:09 p.m.
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im so lost why are you asking me to guess your role i can't be sure just yet, i don't think it's very obvious 💔
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@Toof (Sam) how do you this lol i can’t play like that
8:10 p.m.
So uh
8:10 p.m.
Change of plans
8:10 p.m.
I get n1’d
8:10 p.m.
Cait advances me
8:10 p.m.
And we move on
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SUNNY!!
im so lost why are you asking me to guess your role i can't be sure just yet, i don't think it's very obvious 💔
Bc i want you to start making and sharing reads
8:11 p.m.
😭
8:11 p.m.
Wdym why am i asking you
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sorry if i'm not understanding what you're asking, but im neutral with calla and maybe a TL with you? i just don't know why you want me to say the exact role i think you guys are 💔
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So abyss just had to go afk rn smh, great! @lilypetal what did you get from saying i was towny? Or what did you expect to get? @charlie i dont tr your approach on guillo ;-;
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SUNNY!!
sorry if i'm not understanding what you're asking, but im neutral with calla and maybe a TL with you? i just don't know why you want me to say the exact role i think you guys are 💔
I mean when i asked you what were we you said nge and calla so like
8:15 p.m.
Why tl on me btw
8:15 p.m.
60% if my behavior is uh
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Disingenuous
8:16 p.m.
of*
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Ngekop
So abyss just had to go afk rn smh, great! @lilypetal what did you get from saying i was towny? Or what did you expect to get? @charlie i dont tr your approach on guillo ;-;
Where did you feel like my approach was wrong..?
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Never said it was wrong
8:17 p.m.
I just didnt tr it
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Well you say you don't tr it, so obviously something you don't agree on it
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The way you went around it
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I'm a bit confused I'm ngl
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charlie
Well you say you don't tr it, so obviously something you don't agree on it
That’s
8:18 p.m.
Not true
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So you agree with me?
8:18 p.m.
Whats the problem?
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But i got similar vibes to what i got from your approach on me
8:18 p.m.
In ma59
8:18 p.m.
Which was like
8:18 p.m.
The one thing from you that ringed scum to me
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I'm town this game, I change how I play each game, this is something most ppl know, I guess just keep reading me, not sure what else to say 😭
8:20 p.m.
It’s not s like tangible meta read
8:21 p.m.
But im just sharing a feeling i shared there
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Yeah, which is good, thank u
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And that concerned me a bit here
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Ngekop
It’s not s like tangible meta read
a*
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nods Your helping me read u
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I intend on solving your slot d1
8:22 p.m.
My plan was to get two tr’s and lynch scum d1
8:22 p.m.
Now it is to get 4 tr’s
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Ngekop
So abyss just had to go afk rn smh, great! @lilypetal what did you get from saying i was towny? Or what did you expect to get? @charlie i dont tr your approach on guillo ;-;
wat
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And hope at least one mason is outside of there
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lilypetal
wat
You said i was towny
8:22 p.m.
When i had like
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and?
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3 game related posts
8:22 p.m.
mad?
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Ngekop
And hope at least one mason is outside of there
anti town behavior
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So i really doubt it was purely a genuine thought
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lilypetal
anti town behavior
What
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This game sure has a lot of creative personalities huh
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it was a gut read
8:23 p.m.
lol
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charlie
This game sure has a lot of creative personalities huh
towny anti pockety behavior
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lilypetal
towny anti pockety behavior
idk what this mean but probs slay idk
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lilypetal
it was a gut read
But like i’d believe you tried to get smth from it
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Ngekop
I mean when i asked you what were we you said nge and calla so like
actually read through more and now im turning towards neutral still need more but now im not sure about the tl
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charlie
idk what this mean but probs slay idk
im saying that post is like
8:24 p.m.
kind of mean and agressive
8:24 p.m.
means ur probs town
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SUNNY!!
actually read through more and now im turning towards neutral still need more but now im not sure about the tl
What made you change
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I'm not trying to be mean 😭
8:25 p.m.
You mean null Sunny
8:25 p.m.
Not neutral
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nuh uh
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I don’t mean to be mean but that’s all i can be it’s just me
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SUNNY!!
nuh uh
girlie there is no third party in here 😭
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@SUNNY!! dont stop typing omfg
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Ngekop
What made you change
^
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Ngekop
What made you change
reading through past games where you were scum ive seen some similarities, feel like you're acting the same in some areas,,,, im not sure if this counts as meta though so its more of a neutral null read
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👀 In what ways is he acting the same?
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SUNNY!!
actually read through more and now im turning towards neutral still need more but now im not sure about the tl
wat
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why did you ping just to say that... 😔
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Sunny my question
8:29 p.m.
I want you to expand on what you said
8:31 p.m.
Oh okay we gatekeeping ig 😭
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hell yeah
8:32 p.m.
ok but actually there's like 200 pages of messages so 💔
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Okay well obviously there is something similar you saw, so you can name at least something? 😭
8:33 p.m.
Sunny, we've been over this, you can't just say something but not explain and then expect people to agree with you 😭
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SUNNY!!
reading through past games where you were scum ive seen some similarities, feel like you're acting the same in some areas,,,, im not sure if this counts as meta though so its more of a neutral null read
Can you elaborate on which areas are those pls
8:37 p.m.
Yeah what callahan said
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SUNNY!!
why did you ping just to say that... 😔
Sunny how long you’ve been playing Mafia if i may ask?
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charlie
Okay well obviously there is something similar you saw, so you can name at least something? 😭
NO I UNDERSTAND THAT NOO i just feel the need to have a whole paragraph to say something about people like nge one of the things i saw is that he says a lot of stuff like "oh if i was mafia i would do this and not that", and his whole conversation with guillo just gave me that vibe? like he's just trying to quietly imply he isn't mafia. the vote on abyss is pretty weird too, since they didn't say anything aside from "im not scum". not enough to lynch someone imo 😭 also his votes seem to switch up pretty quickly but that might not always be a scum indicator 💔 it's also an issue with me since i can't tell what's serious or not on d1, and i feel like people will just lie and say scummy things they said were jokes
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Guillo
Sunny how long you’ve been playing Mafia if i may ask?
127 years, 3 months
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SUNNY!!
127 years, 3 months
Im being serious please.
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oh i dunno actually haven't been counting
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SUNNY!!
NO I UNDERSTAND THAT NOO i just feel the need to have a whole paragraph to say something about people like nge one of the things i saw is that he says a lot of stuff like "oh if i was mafia i would do this and not that", and his whole conversation with guillo just gave me that vibe? like he's just trying to quietly imply he isn't mafia. the vote on abyss is pretty weird too, since they didn't say anything aside from "im not scum". not enough to lynch someone imo 😭 also his votes seem to switch up pretty quickly but that might not always be a scum indicator 💔 it's also an issue with me since i can't tell what's serious or not on d1, and i feel like people will just lie and say scummy things they said were jokes
Okay icic, could you point towards where he was quietly implying he wasn't mafia? Also, the vote on Abyss is due to the fact he froze up, which is also why I'm on him. nods
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Is it more than 10 games or less?
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Guillo
Im being serious please.
Sunny is new, I would say this is there 5th mafia game, which is why I used them as a example
8:42 p.m.
When I spoke about experience
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SUNNY!!
NO I UNDERSTAND THAT NOO i just feel the need to have a whole paragraph to say something about people like nge one of the things i saw is that he says a lot of stuff like "oh if i was mafia i would do this and not that", and his whole conversation with guillo just gave me that vibe? like he's just trying to quietly imply he isn't mafia. the vote on abyss is pretty weird too, since they didn't say anything aside from "im not scum". not enough to lynch someone imo 😭 also his votes seem to switch up pretty quickly but that might not always be a scum indicator 💔 it's also an issue with me since i can't tell what's serious or not on d1, and i feel like people will just lie and say scummy things they said were jokes
Also, I wanna make sure you understand RVS which is random voting stage, a lot of votes seem meaningless and don't have much depth but most of us are in RVS right now, or what I'm assuming.
8:44 p.m.
Guillo's vote on me could be RVS or a actually reason, I'm not sure, but I think Nge's vote on Gullio was RVS
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Ngekop
60% if my behavior is uh
Nge is English your native language?
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charlie
Okay icic, could you point towards where he was quietly implying he wasn't mafia? Also, the vote on Abyss is due to the fact he froze up, which is also why I'm on him. nods
I have done that this game
8:45 p.m.
He isnt wrong
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Guillo
Is it more than 10 games or less?
Less def
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Ngekop
He isnt wrong
👀 Oh okay got you
8:46 p.m.
Wait isn't that what your suppose to do tho 😭
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Guillo
Nge is English your native language?
No
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charlie
Guillo's vote on me could be RVS or a actually reason, I'm not sure, but I think Nge's vote on Gullio was RVS
Mine is not RvS
8:46 p.m.
And I broke RvS
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Guillo
Mine is not RvS
Could you explain why you voted me then? 🤭
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charlie
Wait isn't that what your suppose to do tho 😭
🤷‍♂️
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We’ve been playing seriously since i claimed mafia
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charlie
Also, I wanna make sure you understand RVS which is random voting stage, a lot of votes seem meaningless and don't have much depth but most of us are in RVS right now, or what I'm assuming.
i understand rvs yeah yeah it seemed to me that with their whole convo that he had a reason to believe guillo was scum considering the questions guillo was asking thwn the switch to abyss was a bit sudden, especially for a little reason i at least wanna give abyss a chance to speak, to see if they actually froze or just,, went to sleep or something maybe i don't understand what freezing means but 😔
8:47 p.m.
yapping sorry
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Your not yapping
8:47 p.m.
AT ALL
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I understand
8:47 p.m.
No worries
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SUNNY!!
i understand rvs yeah yeah it seemed to me that with their whole convo that he had a reason to believe guillo was scum considering the questions guillo was asking thwn the switch to abyss was a bit sudden, especially for a little reason i at least wanna give abyss a chance to speak, to see if they actually froze or just,, went to sleep or something maybe i don't understand what freezing means but 😔
Well i clearly wanted him to say something
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Ngekop
No
Ok ty
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SUNNY!!
i understand rvs yeah yeah it seemed to me that with their whole convo that he had a reason to believe guillo was scum considering the questions guillo was asking thwn the switch to abyss was a bit sudden, especially for a little reason i at least wanna give abyss a chance to speak, to see if they actually froze or just,, went to sleep or something maybe i don't understand what freezing means but 😔
Okay i got you nods
8:49 p.m.
Me waiting for Gullio to reply to me britneyjean like im not going to bite SMILE
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SUNNY!!
NO I UNDERSTAND THAT NOO i just feel the need to have a whole paragraph to say something about people like nge one of the things i saw is that he says a lot of stuff like "oh if i was mafia i would do this and not that", and his whole conversation with guillo just gave me that vibe? like he's just trying to quietly imply he isn't mafia. the vote on abyss is pretty weird too, since they didn't say anything aside from "im not scum". not enough to lynch someone imo 😭 also his votes seem to switch up pretty quickly but that might not always be a scum indicator 💔 it's also an issue with me since i can't tell what's serious or not on d1, and i feel like people will just lie and say scummy things they said were jokes
is this player a good wolf?
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this seems like a townclearing post
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charlie
Sunny is new, I would say this is there 5th mafia game, which is why I used them as a example
o
8:50 p.m.
locktown
8:50 p.m.
yeah
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lilypetal
is this player a good wolf?
We havent seen him as scum
8:50 p.m.
He hasnt rolled that
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Yet
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well
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Oh sunny
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a very pure post
8:50 p.m.
lol
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It is a good one yes
8:56 p.m.
I havent seen lily as mafia
8:56 p.m.
Which kinda sucks
8:56 p.m.
Good player + no meta on her is
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Not a good combination
8:57 p.m.
Sunny looking good and calla semi good
8:57 p.m.
Im sad abyss still hasnt posted since i voted him
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have ziel and easy said anything?
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Ziel no, EOTH just uh
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oh yea he just posted a gif
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Yeah said two things
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 8:59 p.m.
I'm back
8:59 p.m.
Sorry, had stuff happening
8:59 p.m.
Imma backread now
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Anemoia/Abyss
Imma backread now
Okay give me your thoughts after you backread
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SUNNY!!
have ziel and easy said anything?
Easy sent 2 posts one of them being a gif
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:01 p.m.
Well I backread enough from my last msg to know the Nge suses me-
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But more stuff happened after that?
9:02 p.m.
Are you not going to read that lol?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:02 p.m.
I am
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:02 p.m.
I'm just commenting on the way
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Ngekop
@Anemoia/Abyss why arent you answering to me ;-;
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:05 p.m.
When your parents are Arguing it's kinda hard to focus on anything :/ Anyways yeah imma just going to respond as I go down
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Oh sorry, dude take your time
9:05 p.m.
Focus on IRL things over mafia
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charlie
Focus on IRL things over mafia
This
9:06 p.m.
:/
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Is it bad I want to unvote bc of that reason SMILE
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I mean it’s your vote
9:07 p.m.
Hi guillo
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SUNNY!!
im so lost why are you asking me to guess your role i can't be sure just yet, i don't think it's very obvious 💔
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:07 p.m.
Seems Genuine
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Hmmm, why does that seem like a parrot comment 😭
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charlie
Sunny, we've been over this, you can't just say something but not explain and then expect people to agree with you 😭
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:10 p.m.
I like the push for good habits(idk if it's NAI or not, but it looks good in my eyes)
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Anemoia/Abyss
I like the push for good habits(idk if it's NAI or not, but it looks good in my eyes)
What do you mean by good habits?
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Hi again guillo
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charlie
Could you explain why you voted me then? 🤭
Because i thought you were LAMIST but now that i reread your content holistically i think you are town.
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Holistically?
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SUNNY!!
i understand rvs yeah yeah it seemed to me that with their whole convo that he had a reason to believe guillo was scum considering the questions guillo was asking thwn the switch to abyss was a bit sudden, especially for a little reason i at least wanna give abyss a chance to speak, to see if they actually froze or just,, went to sleep or something maybe i don't understand what freezing means but 😔
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:13 p.m.
Not biased, but in my opinion these are towny thoughts
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Me being a native English speaker and not knowing what holistically means 😔
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I think Sunny is newbie town, he’s got level 0 logic that i ser a lot from newbie town
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charlie
Is it bad I want to unvote bc of that reason SMILE
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:14 p.m.
Don't let that change your vote, if it's the only thing
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charlie
What do you mean by good habits?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:15 p.m.
Like, explaining things and such
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Anemoia/Abyss
Like, explaining things and such
Isn't that what I told you last game 😭
9:15 p.m.
On how to read town
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:15 p.m.
Yes-
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Thank you for using my advice LOL
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:16 p.m.
But like- still
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Like he associates voting a lot with scum behavior which i see often from newbie town because they think scum are indecisive when it comes to voting which is totally the contrary
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charlie
Thank you for using my advice LOL
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:16 p.m.
LOL
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Guillo
Like he associates voting a lot with scum behavior which i see often from newbie town because they think scum are indecisive when it comes to voting which is totally the contrary
nuh uh murder
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Yes Sunny
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Guillo
Like he associates voting a lot with scum behavior which i see often from newbie town because they think scum are indecisive when it comes to voting which is totally the contrary
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:16 p.m.
I think I'm more indecisive as town and vote with a clear target as scum
9:16 p.m.
So yeah, I agree
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Yeah, but scum feel like if they vote someone wrong they will get uncovered nods
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:17 p.m.
Ok, I'm finally getting stuff in
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Town use their votes to pressure before and we are uninfirmed so we dont have perfect reads, so naturally we are gonna be voting different people often
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Thats why you often see scum stuck on votes, and won't reread
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charlie
Yeah, but scum feel like if they vote someone wrong they will get uncovered nods
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:17 p.m.
As scum I don't think too much about that, it's more like what do I say to get the pressure off of me
9:18 p.m.
And yes I am aware this is going to be used against me in future Mafia games
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No no, keep talking
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:18 p.m.
But that's just me as scum
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I wanna hear how you play as scum
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:18 p.m.
I don't know about the others
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charlie
I wanna hear how you play as scum
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:18 p.m.
Ermm... nUH-uHhhh
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Anemoia/Abyss
Don't let that change your vote, if it's the only thing
Abyss and callahan not teamed pingu
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Town*^ Sunny Lily Callahan Maybe** Nge
9:19 p.m.
Ffs
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Ngekop
Abyss and callahan not teamed pingu
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:19 p.m.
Wha-
9:19 p.m.
Why?
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It means we arent SVS
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Town Sunny Lily Callahan Maybe Nge
9:20 p.m.
So maybe forget anything i said about putting my prestige on the line today
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Guillo
Yes Sunny
I didn't mean to say I associate voting a lot = scum, i do that a lot when I'm town 💔 It's that switching off someone quickly with small reasons for doing so, especially when they seemed to have a good reason for their past vote was just a bit weird to me, if that isn't necessarily scum behavior to you then idk 🤷‍♂️ ive literally been playing mafia before the big bang don't play w me :/
9:20 p.m.
Sunny is 1,000 years old fr
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SUNNY!!
I didn't mean to say I associate voting a lot = scum, i do that a lot when I'm town 💔 It's that switching off someone quickly with small reasons for doing so, especially when they seemed to have a good reason for their past vote was just a bit weird to me, if that isn't necessarily scum behavior to you then idk 🤷‍♂️ ive literally been playing mafia before the big bang don't play w me :/
So you are not a newbie?
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charlie
It means we arent SVS
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:20 p.m.
Ohhhhh
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Wait the big bang happened further
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Cause if you are not my read changes drastically
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Guillo
So you are not a newbie?
nuh uh i just forget a lot yknow old age :/
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:21 p.m.
Wait wha- how would Nge figure that out?
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How we interact JJKGetoShrug1 JJKGetoShrug2
9:21 p.m.
Basically
9:22 p.m.
I don't really look at interactions until scum flips and then I read back but some ppl can do it without extra knowledge
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:22 p.m.
.
9:22 p.m.
I don't get it
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SUNNY!!
nuh uh i just forget a lot yknow old age :/
If you claim to be a mafia vet i will judge you as such Sunny
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Anemoia/Abyss
I don't get it
Like when you see two players talking, and they are speaking and interacting you put them in three slots, SvS, TvS, TvT, basically if two scum are interacting, scum and town interacting, or town and town interacting
9:23 p.m.
So Nge doesn't think we are two scum speaking to each other
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charlie
Sunny is new, I would say this is there 5th mafia game, which is why I used them as a example
Ok is Sunny new or not?
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Guillo
Ok is Sunny new or not?
Yes 😭
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:24 p.m.
Icic
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I mentor them imgaslightingyou
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:24 p.m.
I want a mento-
9:24 p.m.
/jjj
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Nge mentored u?
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Ok, then tell your student to stop claiming he is not, we need transparency here
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:25 p.m.
Right
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Anemoia/Abyss
Wait wha- how would Nge figure that out?
Figure what out
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Guillo
Ok, then tell your student to stop claiming he is not, we need transparency here
LOL 😭 but it adds a little fun tho
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Guillo
Ok, then tell your student to stop claiming he is not, we need transparency here
BOOOOOORING
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Oh the mvm thingy
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SUNNY KNOWS WHAT IS UP
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:25 p.m.
But like- wouldn't it be cool to have like a Mafia guru to teach you the ways of the game? :0
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charlie
I don't really look at interactions until scum flips and then I read back but some ppl can do it without extra knowledge
It’s useless af to me ngl
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Ngekop
Oh the mvm thingy
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:25 p.m.
Ye
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Like it fr is
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Callahan/Sunny not aligned
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But hey why not when i see it
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Ngekop
It’s useless af to me ngl
It's only useful when scum actually flips
9:26 p.m.
And then u can look back
9:26 p.m.
And be like hmmm
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charlie
I don't really look at interactions until scum flips and then I read back but some ppl can do it without extra knowledge
Me
9:26 p.m.
me and sunny fr
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Ir is not useless and careful scum often say it is
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charlie
It's only useful when scum actually flips
Ehhh
9:26 p.m.
Im lazy ngl
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Guillo
Ir is not useless and careful scum often say it is
I said to me
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Guillo
Me
I literally remember my first game with u, and u constantly did it 😭
9:27 p.m.
I mean you were scum
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I dont remember the last time i solved correctly using that
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but I was eating it up
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And yep
9:27 p.m.
Guillo seems to do those
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charlie
I literally remember my first game with u, and u constantly did it 😭
That is because i was duplicating my town game
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As either alignment
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What is Gullio's town meta 🔥
9:28 p.m.
I guess
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Guillo
That is because i was duplicating my town game
Duplicating your town game when the only person knowing your meta is your partner 💀
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Ngekop
Duplicating your town game when the only person knowing your meta is your partner 💀
Nah, im world famous
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didn't even know you existed until game started ngl 😔
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I will be signing autographs post game
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SUNNY!!
didn't even know you existed until game started ngl 😔
That is because you are a newbie
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SUNNY!!
didn't even know you existed until game started ngl 😔
How do you not know Guillo smh
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charlie
How do you not know Guillo smh
This knows whats up
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Guillo
Nah, im world famous
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 9:42 p.m.
I mean, I know you
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Guillo
Town Sunny Lily Callahan Maybe Nge
Wait, I forgot to ask, can you explain on Lily being town, and also why Nge is null, like what made you not put him as a town read or a scum read
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charlie
Wait, I forgot to ask, can you explain on Lily being town, and also why Nge is null, like what made you not put him as a town read or a scum read
Lily It is a mixture tonality and meta activity read. Like as scum she is less curious? She stays out of trouble more.
10:09 p.m.
Nge is null primarily because i didnt like his entrance? Saying that he believes that I’d openwolf when he has only played with me here and ive never openwolfed here. From lily i inderstood the comment because she has seen me openwolf at MU but Nge has not, so it felt opportunistic from him to vote for that reason coincidentally after Lily sussed me and then he claimed it was not serious which he does as scum, then he said it is true he does it as scum which he also does as scum admitting to what he does as scum).
10:09 p.m.
But
10:10 p.m.
Tonally he is less pockety? Like more assertive in his thoughts and the way he scrutinizes people
10:10 p.m.
So I’m mixed
10:11 p.m.
With caution cause his scum game is similar to mine, that guy is fearless as scum
10:14 p.m.
Im gonna say though that unlike any other non competitive games, my approach this game is that you must earn your townread from me every phase. Meaning, every when it comes to getting in my towncore, you have to do it every phase, no cred from past phases from me.
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Guillo
Im gonna say though that unlike any other non competitive games, my approach this game is that you must earn your townread from me every phase. Meaning, every when it comes to getting in my towncore, you have to do it every phase, no cred from past phases from me.
They way I played with someone who is like this...
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Guillo
Nge is null primarily because i didnt like his entrance? Saying that he believes that I’d openwolf when he has only played with me here and ive never openwolfed here. From lily i inderstood the comment because she has seen me openwolf at MU but Nge has not, so it felt opportunistic from him to vote for that reason coincidentally after Lily sussed me and then he claimed it was not serious which he does as scum, then he said it is true he does it as scum which he also does as scum admitting to what he does as scum).
Bro i didnt even see lily said you could be maf when i voted you
10:14 p.m.
Lol
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Guillo
Nge is null primarily because i didnt like his entrance? Saying that he believes that I’d openwolf when he has only played with me here and ive never openwolfed here. From lily i inderstood the comment because she has seen me openwolf at MU but Nge has not, so it felt opportunistic from him to vote for that reason coincidentally after Lily sussed me and then he claimed it was not serious which he does as scum, then he said it is true he does it as scum which he also does as scum admitting to what he does as scum).
All the other meta stuff is correct tho
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Ngekop
Bro i didnt even see lily said you could be maf when i voted you
Sure but i dont know that and you cant prove it so…
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Guillo
Sure but i dont know that and you cant prove it so…
So what? You can’t prove the other either
10:15 p.m.
It’s my word against…nothing really
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charlie
They way I played with someone who is like this...
This is honestly one of the best like ways to play in my opinion, because you are pushing town to play rather then sitting comfortable if they are in your towncore nods
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No but it is you who has to convince me
10:16 p.m.
Ik nods I played with someone who played like that
10:16 p.m.
I had to earn his town read on me
10:16 p.m.
This way no one rides on ild town cred
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It forced me to not slack and actually always tried to help town 24/7
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Guillo
No but it is you who has to convince me
Not really
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You are using a point that is fake from the very start
10:17 p.m.
I cant do nothing against that other than point out your point isnt true
10:17 p.m.
Anything*
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Ngekop
You are using a point that is fake from the very start
It is not fake from my point of view, to me you could be scum echoing Lily’s thoughts to provide false positive support for her
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Ngekop
I cant do nothing against that other than point out your point isnt true
Correct
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I didnt even provide support to her tho
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Guillo
Nge is null primarily because i didnt like his entrance? Saying that he believes that I’d openwolf when he has only played with me here and ive never openwolfed here. From lily i inderstood the comment because she has seen me openwolf at MU but Nge has not, so it felt opportunistic from him to vote for that reason coincidentally after Lily sussed me and then he claimed it was not serious which he does as scum, then he said it is true he does it as scum which he also does as scum admitting to what he does as scum).
I like how you think though, I didn't actually notice that about Nge just stating a random statement without actual proof, do you feel like that might be open-wolfing? If he claims he's doing something he does it as scum and doing it? Or do you think it's TWTBW?
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I just said i believed you and voted you
10:19 p.m.
Without seeing any post from lily
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charlie
I like how you think though, I didn't actually notice that about Nge just stating a random statement without actual proof, do you feel like that might be open-wolfing? If he claims he's doing something he does it as scum and doing it? Or do you think it's TWTBW?
Nge truth wolves pretty much the same as i di
10:19 p.m.
Do
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And i never addressed her stuff on you
10:19 p.m.
Since it’s meta i can’t verify on my own mostly
10:19 p.m.
So idk where do you get your support thingy from
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The support does not have to be direct
10:20 p.m.
And we both know this
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charlie
I like how you think though, I didn't actually notice that about Nge just stating a random statement without actual proof, do you feel like that might be open-wolfing? If he claims he's doing something he does it as scum and doing it? Or do you think it's TWTBW?
LMFAO
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Guillo
Nge truth wolves pretty much the same as i di
Well the games I played with you, you were a deep wolf in my opinion, but this is looking like open wolf 😭
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Guillo
The support does not have to be direct
I didnt even address it tho
10:20 p.m.
I was the first vote iirc
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charlie
Well the games I played with you, you were a deep wolf in my opinion, but this is looking like open wolf 😭
From your perspective
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I clearly didnt know there was anything about it before
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Oh well yes
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Since i had to do nothing about it when reading your post
10:21 p.m.
Then see what lily said
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Then thinking of saying the same thing pretending i didnt see what lily said
10:21 p.m.
Then vote you
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But not the first to sus me for it, lily was, in the way you did right after
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Now that sequence is smth i have never done
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Ngekop
LMFAO
Let me ask questions im trying to understand u dont gotta comment on it everyonewasgagged
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At least not as scum
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charlie
Let me ask questions im trying to understand u dont gotta comment on it everyonewasgagged
I gotta tho
10:21 p.m.
The TWTBAW was funny
10:21 p.m.
I couldnt hold myself there
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You can do stuff as both alignments
10:22 p.m.
I did that as town
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Yeah of course, but I want his opinion on it
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Just acknowledged i do that specifically as scum too
10:22 p.m.
So
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thats why im asking him, not you
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Admitting to that is just being honest about it
10:22 p.m.
Ok but
10:22 p.m.
That still makes no sense
10:22 p.m.
💀
10:22 p.m.
Anyways
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What makes no sense?
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It makes no sense to u, but it makes sense to me so
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@Anemoia/Abyss you never commented
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On me voting you
10:23 p.m.
And my reasons for that
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charlie
It makes no sense to u, but it makes sense to me so
🤷‍♂️
10:23 p.m.
Doesnt make you right
10:23 p.m.
(You arent)
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Doesnt make you right?
10:23 p.m.
Like?
10:23 p.m.
I'm trying to understand his thought progress, don't discredit someone
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Guillo
What makes no sense?
Accepting smth can be in your scum range being TWTBAW or even close to that
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charlie
I'm trying to understand his thought progress, don't discredit someone
Ok but that part still was a huge stretch that kinda makes no sense no matter how you approach it
10:24 p.m.
You even complained all your scum game about this
10:24 p.m.
Which btw wasnt even true there
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Ngekop
Ok but that part still was a huge stretch that kinda makes no sense no matter how you approach it
I feel like if he thinks its that way, then he can think its that way?
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Ngekop
@Anemoia/Abyss you never commented
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:24 p.m.
Onnn?
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But idt he does and if he claims he does im voting him bc no town thinks that way
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Well thats why im asking him if he think its that way
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Then why are we even arguing if we agree there
10:25 p.m.
😭
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:25 p.m.
Oh you voting me?
10:25 p.m.
Idrc
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Anemoia/Abyss
Oh you voting me?
And the reasons i gave
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Anemoia/Abyss
Idrc
Huh?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:26 p.m.
What are your reasons,m
10:26 p.m.
I probably will care if your reasons are bad
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You dont care dor my reasons for voting you?
10:26 p.m.
For*
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Anemoia/Abyss
I probably will care if your reasons are bad
Well that’s kinda why
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:26 p.m.
Idk what your reasons are
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You care in the first place
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:27 p.m.
So I can't decide whether I care or not
10:27 p.m.
Why havent you
10:27 p.m.
Read them
10:27 p.m.
Or asked for them
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:28 p.m.
I did
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-01 10:28 p.m.
10:28 p.m.
whats up guys
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charlie
I like how you think though, I didn't actually notice that about Nge just stating a random statement without actual proof, do you feel like that might be open-wolfing? If he claims he's doing something he does it as scum and doing it? Or do you think it's TWTBW?
It could go either way, when you are playing against a scum player who is literally fearless about admitting to your face what he does as scum you are in trouble because honesty is townread more often than not, the only way to catch them is on the micro level, hence why im mixed about Ngekop and hence why I’m psychoanalyzing him 24/7
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Anemoia/Abyss
What are your reasons,m
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:28 p.m.
^^^
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-01 10:28 p.m.
what have i missed so far
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:28 p.m.
Idk tbh
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EasyOnTheHills
what have i missed so far
read
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:29 p.m.
Nge views me as sus, but I've been busy with family so that's all I know except that some people view Sunny as town pretty sure
10:29 p.m.
Sunny seems genuine to me so
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Do you have any other reads when you reread? Anything that was like hmm to you?
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Anemoia/Abyss
I did
You said you didnt know them tho?
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Guillo
It could go either way, when you are playing against a scum player who is literally fearless about admitting to your face what he does as scum you are in trouble because honesty is townread more often than not, the only way to catch them is on the micro level, hence why im mixed about Ngekop and hence why I’m psychoanalyzing him 24/7
Okay icic so you are doing some advanced gameplay rn 😭 What do you mean by mirco level ( sorry this is def off topic but like i never heard of that )
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:31 p.m.
Bro
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Ngekop
You said you didnt know them tho?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:31 p.m.
I asked
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Guillo
It could go either way, when you are playing against a scum player who is literally fearless about admitting to your face what he does as scum you are in trouble because honesty is townread more often than not, the only way to catch them is on the micro level, hence why im mixed about Ngekop and hence why I’m psychoanalyzing him 24/7
If you go there i doubt you’ll ever get smth concrete on me unless i die or like strongarm a mafia lynch d1
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:32 p.m.
forehead slap
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:32 p.m.
You're making this confusing lol
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Ngekop
You would be confident on you being town and on being aware i would either tmi it as maf or figure it out just like that
This is what i said about it
10:33 p.m.
This and the next message
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Anemoia/Abyss
When your parents are Arguing it's kinda hard to focus on anything :/ Anyways yeah imma just going to respond as I go down
Look im sorry that you have to@live through that but for the sake of game transparency, i’d like to ask you to not bring this in game cause nobody wants to vote the poor soul who is having domestic issues at home and what if you are scum? It is not fair to bring that here. Again im deeply sorry you are living this at home but yah.
10:34 p.m.
He did say not to not vote him just bc of that
10:35 p.m.
But he used that to explain him going which was valid
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Ngekop
Instead of actually thinking of what you say could get tr’d or not
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:36 p.m.
When did I hint at this? I've barely said anything at this point anyways. I am confident I'm town, why else would I say, "I'm not." When you say I'm Mafia? Hmmmm? Also what does the last part of the first msg mean? (I'm on edge today due to personal stuff, so that's why the message might sound aggressive, but tbh Idc atm)
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Guillo
Look im sorry that you have to@live through that but for the sake of game transparency, i’d like to ask you to not bring this in game cause nobody wants to vote the poor soul who is having domestic issues at home and what if you are scum? It is not fair to bring that here. Again im deeply sorry you are living this at home but yah.
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:36 p.m.
I'm not looking for pity, I was giving a reason why I was "frozen"
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Nah tbh i like this from you
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Anemoia/Abyss
Not biased, but in my opinion these are towny thoughts
What you mean not biased?
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Not what you’re going through ifc
10:37 p.m.
Ofc
10:37 p.m.
Just lkke
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Like
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Guillo
Look im sorry that you have to@live through that but for the sake of game transparency, i’d like to ask you to not bring this in game cause nobody wants to vote the poor soul who is having domestic issues at home and what if you are scum? It is not fair to bring that here. Again im deeply sorry you are living this at home but yah.
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:37 p.m.
Sorry if it seemed that way though, I would ask that you ignore it for fair play
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Guillo
What you mean not biased?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:38 p.m.
That it was kinda in my defense a bit(or at least that's how I see it)
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Having you not making yourself be nice to people
10:38 p.m.
Just to be nice
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:38 p.m.
Heh?
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You usually are
10:38 p.m.
Really nice
10:39 p.m.
Having you with no filter in that sense
10:39 p.m.
Will be interesting
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:39 p.m.
I get that a lot-
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And might make it easier to get a read on you
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:39 p.m.
Cool
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Ok anyways
10:39 p.m.
I meant as in
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:39 p.m.
Then you'd realize that I'm tiwn
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Anemoia/Abyss
Really? Yikes, I wouldn't believe it
You replied with this
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Anemoia/Abyss
Not biased, but in my opinion these are towny thoughts
Yah i agree Sunny is townie and he depicts newbie yet very genuine towny thoughts imo
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To me saying if you said x thing i wouldve believed you were town
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Anemoia/Abyss
Then you'd realize that I'm tiwn
Not yet tho that’s the problem
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Anemoia is town in my opinion
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He hasnt done anything that makes him town honestly
10:41 p.m.
Not yet
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Ngekop
You replied with this
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:41 p.m.
And I stand by it
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I have him as null still so...
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Then read them holistically
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WHAT DOES HOLISTICALLY MEAN
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Means in good faith
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Anemoia/Abyss
And I stand by it
And i responded to that
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:42 p.m.
How do you read in good faith-
10:42 p.m.
Oh wait-
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Saying i think as maf you are more likely to be more aware
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:42 p.m.
Like- in lens that they're town?
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Of how does what you say make you look
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Ngekop
Saying i think as maf you are more likely to be more aware
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:42 p.m.
Ok
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Anemoia/Abyss
Like- in lens that they're town?
I honestly dont know what he meant
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Ngekop
Of how does what you say make you look
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:43 p.m.
Resay that please
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Anemoia/Abyss
Like- in lens that they're town?
No more like.. in unbiased lens, forgetting tunnels, preconceptions and biases
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As scum you are more aware of how does what you say make you look (towny/scummy)
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Guillo
No more like.. in unbiased lens, forgetting tunnels, preconceptions and biases
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:43 p.m.
Ohhhh
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Guillo
No more like.. in unbiased lens, forgetting tunnels, preconceptions and biases
Not yet
10:44 p.m.
I get it now tho
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Ngekop
As scum you are more aware of how does what you say make you look (towny/scummy)
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:44 p.m.
Oh, tbh I don't care right now
10:44 p.m.
At this point I'm just speaking my mind with niceness
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Anemoia towntold in my opinion just by posting and doing this 1c1 with you Nge
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Anemoia/Abyss
I probably will care if your reasons are bad
Like the reason why Ane isn't a town lean to me and will stay in null until further notice, is because of this, which is a mirco read, ik, but from what I realized is town is upset when they are called scum, scum is upset at the reasons they are called scum.
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Yeah nvm this wont make it easier to read you
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Anemoia/Abyss
At this point I'm just speaking my mind with niceness
Speak it without filter
10:45 p.m.
Just say what you think just like it is
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Guillo
Anemoia towntold in my opinion just by posting and doing this 1c1 with you Nge
It’s not a 1v1 tho
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Ngekop
It’s not a 1v1 tho
It is, it is just you vs him
10:45 p.m.
Right now
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charlie
Like the reason why Ane isn't a town lean to me and will stay in null until further notice, is because of this, which is a mirco read, ik, but from what I realized is town is upset when they are called scum, scum is upset at the reasons they are called scum.
Oh this is true in many cases
10:45 p.m.
Idt it applies to abyss tho
10:46 p.m.
It’s mostly on vets sr’d by vets
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Guillo
It is, it is just you vs him
It’s 1 on 1 conversation
10:46 p.m.
And he is not even getting deep into it
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Ngekop
Speak it without filter
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:47 p.m.
If I did, I would be uhhh... A bit too aggressive for my liking
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charlie
Like the reason why Ane isn't a town lean to me and will stay in null until further notice, is because of this, which is a mirco read, ik, but from what I realized is town is upset when they are called scum, scum is upset at the reasons they are called scum.
Because as scum you can't be upset when you are called scum... bc u r literally scum? But you can be upset at the reasons why they scum read you. But town is upset when they are called scum bc they are town and they are like wtf to it, and aren't upset at the reasons bc they know they are town and it comes from a townie perspective.
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Ngekop
Idt it applies to abyss tho
Oh
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Ngekop
It’s not a 1v1 tho
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:47 p.m.
It is, the chat is literally mostly just the two of us with sub ins
10:48 p.m.
Ane can you tell me one townie thing you have done so far?
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charlie
Like the reason why Ane isn't a town lean to me and will stay in null until further notice, is because of this, which is a mirco read, ik, but from what I realized is town is upset when they are called scum, scum is upset at the reasons they are called scum.
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:50 p.m.
Here's MY process of thought, I don't even care if I'm called scum to be completely fully honest, but if someone is calling me scum and has a bad reason, like, "oh it's just gut" then it'd be understandable why I'd care a little. But y'know what? Even then I wouldn't care too much because it's so early in the day to really matter to ME
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Idk it seems to be mattering a lot to you right now
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charlie
Ane can you tell me one townie thing you have done so far?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:50 p.m.
No
10:50 p.m.
No filter, no I cannot
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charlie
Idk it seems to be mattering a lot to you right now
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:51 p.m.
Nge said no filter, so here I am :>
10:51 p.m.
I'm listening to upbeat music so I'm getting pretty hyped about this rn lol
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Anemoia/Abyss
Nge said no filter, so here I am :>
Do you town read Nge?
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charlie
Do you town read Nge?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:51 p.m.
Null
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Ngekop
If you go there i doubt you’ll ever get smth concrete on me unless i die or like strongarm a mafia lynch d1
This sounds like a challenge, are you claiming to be unreadable this way? Because I guarantee you, nobody is
10:52 p.m.
Micro tells are those that you do unconsciously
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Null
So why are you following his suggestion to you?
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Callahan is kinda towny
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I always town nods
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Has anyone not posted
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charlie
So why are you following his suggestion to you?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:52 p.m.
Because i wanna see what's it's like, I never chat on discord, nevertheless Mafia without filter
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lilypetal
Has anyone not posted
A lot..
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:52 p.m.
Seems fun though
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Also how long is this day?
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lilypetal
Has anyone not posted
What you mean?
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Like has anyone not posted yet
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lilypetal
Also how long is this day?
48 hours
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Anemoia/Abyss
Because i wanna see what's it's like, I never chat on discord, nevertheless Mafia without filter
Well, okay, icic nods
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Kk ty guillo
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:53 p.m.
And I sense that you SR me Calla? Makes sense tbh
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I have you as null, I'm pushing you so I can get your thought progress
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lilypetal
Like has anyone not posted yet
Dont you see the posts? Or you meant like anyone else?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:53 p.m.
There are some questionable things piled onto me, but I can trust you to figure out soon that I am without a doubt town! 🙂
10:53 p.m.
(darn autoemoji)
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Which makes me develop a better read on you
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Guillo
Dont you see the posts? Or you meant like anyone else?
As in you can't like see post counts here
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So idk who has posted and who hasn't other than like who I've seen
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charlie
I have you as null, I'm pushing you so I can get your thought progress
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:54 p.m.
Hm, you're doing a good job 👏
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Search people
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It feels like the same ppl
10:54 p.m.
Alright
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Anemoia/Abyss
There are some questionable things piled onto me, but I can trust you to figure out soon that I am without a doubt town! 🙂
Yeah, that's why I keep talking to you, I'm trying to figure out your alignment, do you have any other thoughts when you reread?
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charlie
Which makes me develop a better read on you
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:54 p.m.
Cool, a tr?
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@Alive @Ngekop @Alive @SUNNY!! @Alive @genesischaos @Alive @charlie @Alive @Ziel :D @Alive @lilypetal @Alive @Anemoia/Abyss @Alive @Guillo @Alive @EasyOnTheHills
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Anemoia/Abyss
Cool, a tr?
No, ur null still
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^^ ty
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:55 p.m.
You uh-
10:55 p.m.
Oopsies
10:55 p.m.
Did an oopsies
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Sorry for mass ping
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I think callahan sunny and guillo are towny
10:55 p.m.
So like
10:55 p.m.
I think I've already won the game
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charlie
No, ur null still
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:55 p.m.
Ouchies
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Anemoia too
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Anemoia/Abyss
If I did, I would be uhhh... A bit too aggressive for my liking
It’s fine i won’t be offended
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Ngekop
It’s fine i won’t be offended
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:56 p.m.
Ok I won't hold back everything I feel!
10:56 p.m.
Right now? Pumped up
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Anemoia/Abyss
Ouchies
well, I want to see your thoughts, you keep defending yourself, and I want you to go on the offensive right now, what do you think scum is doing right now?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:56 p.m.
Ready to tackle on these mafs
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Anemoia/Abyss
I'm listening to upbeat music so I'm getting pretty hyped about this rn lol
W
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charlie
well, I want to see your thoughts, you keep defending yourself, and I want you to go on the offensive right now, what do you think scum is doing right now?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:57 p.m.
Well if I was scum so I'd want to redirect attention to someone else, right? Sooooooooo
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Guillo
This sounds like a challenge, are you claiming to be unreadable this way? Because I guarantee you, nobody is
Not really, i’m saying idt that’s the way to read me
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:57 p.m.
Try to push someone early so that a mislynch happens
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At least not an optimal one
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:58 p.m.
But there isn'tmuch of that happening looks at Nge
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Anemoia/Abyss
Well if I was scum so I'd want to redirect attention to someone else, right? Sooooooooo
sillyermmlooks
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:58 p.m.
Yes?
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Anemoia/Abyss
Well if I was scum so I'd want to redirect attention to someone else, right? Sooooooooo
Okay icic, now I want to ask you, what do you think scum is thinking about your slot? Do you think scum is going to push your slot, or do you think scum will keep you in?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:58 p.m.
Gosh I feel like Celestia-
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Anemoia/Abyss
Yes?
it's just the same thing i brought up with nge i find the whole "if i was mafia i would do this not this" so scummy i hate it 😭
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charlie
Okay icic, now I want to ask you, what do you think scum is thinking about your slot? Do you think scum is going to push your slot, or do you think scum will keep you in?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 10:59 p.m.
I'd think that I'm an easy target for scum, I'm newer, pressure is getting pushed on me, basically if I was scum, I'd be a great target to push
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Ngekop
Not really, i’m saying idt that’s the way to read me
We’ll see
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Anemoia/Abyss
I'd think that I'm an easy target for scum, I'm newer, pressure is getting pushed on me, basically if I was scum, I'd be a great target to push
Honestly if I was scum, I would keep you in because I know you would have no influence JJKGetoShrug1 JJKGetoShrug2
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SUNNY!!
it's just the same thing i brought up with nge i find the whole "if i was mafia i would do this not this" so scummy i hate it 😭
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:00 p.m.
Ouch, well I don't know everyone's thought process- how am I supposed to know how everyone acts when their Mafia?
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charlie
Honestly if I was scum, I would keep you in because I know you would have no influence JJKGetoShrug1 JJKGetoShrug2
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:00 p.m.
Thank you?
11:00 p.m.
I'm just glad that I'm being active
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No, its means scum is not going to push you if I'm thinking correctly about this
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:01 p.m.
Hmmmmm
11:01 p.m.
But I'd probably be a good mislynch, yes?
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SUNNY!!
it's just the same thing i brought up with nge i find the whole "if i was mafia i would do this not this" so scummy i hate it 😭
Honestly, i hate it too but ive seen town do it
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I'm thinking hold up
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I do it myself as town so yah
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:02 p.m.
I'll try not to do the "If I was maf" thing then, yikes
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As scum you would keep Ane in right if hes town? Because hes new right?
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I have a crazy thiught
11:02 p.m.
Thought
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What is your thought
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Everyone is townie
11:02 p.m.
That has posted
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Guillo
@Alive @Ngekop @Alive @SUNNY!! @Alive @genesischaos @Alive @charlie @Alive @Ziel :D @Alive @lilypetal @Alive @Anemoia/Abyss @Alive @Guillo @Alive @EasyOnTheHills
Why
11:03 p.m.
Why did you do that
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Ngekop
Why did you do that
Because lily needed it
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Guillo
Sorry for mass ping
Oh ok it wasnt intentionally
11:03 p.m.
Nvm me then
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Im outside thinking rn this is insane
11:03 p.m.
I'm on a whole new level rn of gameplay
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:03 p.m.
Good
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im ao tired Why
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Ngekop
Why did you do that
No, i was being sarcastic, i coukd gave edited it but i didnt want to
11:04 p.m.
Could have
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Anemoia/Abyss
But there isn'tmuch of that happening looks at Nge
Im not even pushing a lynch on you
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charlie
As scum you would keep Ane in right if hes town? Because hes new right?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:04 p.m.
Yeah, actually my thinking wasn't too good tbh-
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Ngekop
Im not even pushing a lynch on you
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:04 p.m.
Shhh shhhhh
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SUNNY!!
it's just the same thing i brought up with nge i find the whole "if i was mafia i would do this not this" so scummy i hate it 😭
Lol
11:05 p.m.
Bro what are you even on
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As mafia you would pocket Ane right if he was town, my level of thinking is out of this world idek
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:05 p.m.
But you definitely are putting pressure on me
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Anemoia/Abyss
I'd think that I'm an easy target for scum, I'm newer, pressure is getting pushed on me, basically if I was scum, I'd be a great target to push
You def arent
11:05 p.m.
Tell me one time you got mislynched as town
11:05 p.m.
(Only alignment you can get ml’d as lel)
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Ngekop
Bro what are you even on
that's private information sorry
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I need to establish smth that i misunderstood
11:06 p.m.
From sunny
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gwat is it
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Ngekop
Tell me one time you got mislynched as town
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:06 p.m.
Uhhhhhhh
11:06 p.m.
Never-
11:07 p.m.
Ok my line of thinking may be incorrecttttt
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charlie
No, its means scum is not going to push you if I'm thinking correctly about this
Uh not bc of that tho
11:07 p.m.
You want ml’s
11:07 p.m.
You kill the towns with influence
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He doesn't have influence tho
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Anemoia/Abyss
I'll try not to do the "If I was maf" thing then, yikes
Nah if you feel it then say it
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I feel like im thinking at a higher level rn
11:08 p.m.
this is crazy
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Guillo
That has posted
Indeed
11:08 p.m.
Which i kinda hate
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What if the entire team is in Ziel, EOTH and Genesis and whoever they are, they just frozen
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Like if the people who havent talked
11:08 p.m.
Are not mafias
11:08 p.m.
Then tough spot
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For them
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charlie
As mafia you would pocket Ane right if he was town, my level of thinking is out of this world idek
Oh 100%
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Anemoia/Abyss
But you definitely are putting pressure on me
Yes
11:09 p.m.
And i will keep it until i am semiconvinced you are town
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charlie
He doesn't have influence tho
Yeah but
11:10 p.m.
You take easy ml’s
11:10 p.m.
You dont even have to push those many times
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Guillo
What if the entire team is in Ziel, EOTH and Genesis and whoever they are, they just frozen
Frozen? Lol
11:10 p.m.
Nah
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charlie
As mafia you would pocket Ane right if he was town, my level of thinking is out of this world idek
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:10 p.m.
Hmmmmm
11:10 p.m.
Possibly
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Genesis 90% sure is sleeping
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Ngekop
Frozen? Lol
Have they posted?
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Maybe ziel too but not sure
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Guillo
Have they posted?
No
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But like
11:11 p.m.
Not bc of them not knowing what to say
11:11 p.m.
Eoth agreed
11:11 p.m.
Bruh
11:11 p.m.
He is the only person i have never played with in here
11:11 p.m.
Having to read him now is smth i dont enjoy
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Ngekop
Eoth agreed
What’s the story?
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I do think if eoth is scum then his partner hasnt posted
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Guillo
What’s the story?
Wdym
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Why you agree he could be frozen
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I meant as in i agree with the point on eoth
11:12 p.m.
Yeah
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Bc
11:12 p.m.
He has even posted
11:12 p.m.
At two different times
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EOTH....
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Both of them just gifs p much tho
11:13 p.m.
@Anemoia/Abyss what do you think of the pressure on you especially mine
11:13 p.m.
And calla’s
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I can't remember any meta on him actually which is bad
11:13 p.m.
SMILE
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Oh they have!
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charlie
I can't remember any meta on him actually which is bad
Arent you like
11:13 p.m.
The only one
11:13 p.m.
Who knows him
11:13 p.m.
Sticker
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YES LOL
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Sunny is towny indeed
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Is EOTH usually a slank?
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Imo top town lean i have rn
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Guillo
Is EOTH usually a slank?
No not really, but I'm unsure if its because its a new format or he just doesn't wanna play lol
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I think guillo is most likely either town or teamed with another person that has posted, with it likely being calla or lily
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charlie
No not really, but I'm unsure if its because its a new format or he just doesn't wanna play lol
He does not wanna play? Why he’d sign up for a tournament if he does not?
11:14 p.m.
Does not make sense
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Ngekop
@Anemoia/Abyss what do you think of the pressure on you especially mine
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:14 p.m.
It's with good cause, but I don't think anyone gets any benefit from lynching me except for a town flip and getting a mislynch, but since I'm town, you'll be sus
11:15 p.m.
Probably not maf, but I can't be sure
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Guillo
He does not wanna play? Why he’d sign up for a tournament if he does not?
I may or may not made him sign up bc i haven't played with him in months SMILE
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Guillo
He does not wanna play? Why he’d sign up for a tournament if he does not?
He talked more in mason chat before the rerolling Why
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I literally actually realized I have no meta on him which is insane SMILE
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:16 p.m.
That's my thought
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Anemoia/Abyss
It's with good cause, but I don't think anyone gets any benefit from lynching me except for a town flip and getting a mislynch, but since I'm town, you'll be sus
Ok how about you tell me what you think is the case instead of what you think will happen next days in hypothetical scenarios
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Ngekop
He talked more in mason chat before the rerolling Why
Hmmm!
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It was disappointing seriously no cap bc i didnt have to read him like omfg
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I had even a plan by then
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charlie
Click to see attachment 🖼️
@king kong bro chill
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We are not lynching the most talkers today, today we lynch the one that contributes less
11:17 p.m.
Unless they scum slip
11:17 p.m.
It depends
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But isn't that what scum does?
11:17 p.m.
They lynch the easy ones
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@Anemoia/Abyss gth
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charlie
They lynch the easy ones
No, they leave them for later
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Okay I think Ane is town which leads me to believe Nge is town
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Is the pressure/push from me on you
11:18 p.m.
In good faith?
11:18 p.m.
Y/n
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Guillo
No, they leave them for later
Both work
11:18 p.m.
But yes
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Guillo
No, they leave them for later
Yeah yeah bc they dont have influence
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Ngekop
Ok how about you tell me what you think is the case instead of what you think will happen next days in hypothetical scenarios
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:18 p.m.
Bro idk, my thinking can only be so smart UHHHH Like... I think it's you two being unsure about me, so the pressure is to see if I'm scum or not. I don't think it's Mafia led tho
11:18 p.m.
OMG I just got Deja Vu
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Anemoia/Abyss
Bro idk, my thinking can only be so smart UHHHH Like... I think it's you two being unsure about me, so the pressure is to see if I'm scum or not. I don't think it's Mafia led tho
You are smarter than you think
11:19 p.m.
Pls
11:19 p.m.
Ok
11:19 p.m.
Ic
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So what i propose is to lynch the less contributer today unless all contribute then it no longer applies as a viable way of lynching
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charlie
But isn't that what scum does?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:19 p.m.
I'd think
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Ngekop
@Anemoia/Abyss gth
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:19 p.m.
HEH?
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Anemoia/Abyss
HEH?
Like
11:20 p.m.
You have to answer rn
11:20 p.m.
Dont analyze it
11:20 p.m.
Just what you think in this segond
11:20 p.m.
Second
11:20 p.m.
What comes to your head
11:20 p.m.
Hi sunny
11:20 p.m.
(Dont stop typing)
11:20 p.m.
(Istg if you stop and say hi)
11:20 p.m.
FKFKOWBE
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Sunny do you still scum read Nge?
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BRO STOP THAT
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This chat is towny af
11:21 p.m.
I hate this
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:21 p.m.
Oh
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Do I feel like Im thinking at a higher level right now
11:21 p.m.
dude
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:21 p.m.
About what?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:21 p.m.
Woah I just lagged-
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Nge is too performative for my taste
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I have four town leans, like I'm going crazy rn, the town core is forming in my head
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Anemoia/Abyss
About what?
About smth you kinda already answered
11:21 p.m.
Lol
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Guillo
Nge is too performative for my taste
The sunny thing is NAI tho
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Guillo
Nge is too performative for my taste
Oh like a actor
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It’s just me telling him to change some habit of his
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His reactions are overblown
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Guillo
His reactions are overblown
I assume you mean this to the sunny thing
11:22 p.m.
Which i just
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Reiterate what i just said
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Wait, i read a scum hunting guide before this game...SMILE Scum like to make a big deal about small things
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charlie
Sunny do you still scum read Nge?
I never really scum read him, he's still neutral for me 😔 it was just those things i pointed out earlier that stood out out to me, but he's been acting townie too so aopkeb
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Ngekop
About smth you kinda already answered
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:22 p.m.
Four words, likely pressure town led
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The kid constantly does that
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what's it is the sunny thing
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Ngekop
I assume you mean this to the sunny thing
As town you try hard way less
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SUNNY!!
I never really scum read him, he's still neutral for me 😔 it was just those things i pointed out earlier that stood out out to me, but he's been acting townie too so aopkeb
Okay Sunny has any of your reads on people progressed or...
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I have to reread you
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SUNNY!!
I never really scum read him, he's still neutral for me 😔 it was just those things i pointed out earlier that stood out out to me, but he's been acting townie too so aopkeb
I always act towny
11:23 p.m.
I have only been mislynched once and i only have one L as mafia in this server
11:23 p.m.
I take pride on that
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Ngl
11:23 p.m.
That said im way more proud
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SMILE Nge ur making me wary of you again
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When i win as town
11:23 p.m.
Than as maf
11:24 p.m.
Like unironically when im maf idrc that much if i lose
11:24 p.m.
As town i hate losing
11:24 p.m.
Kiri gets me
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charlie
SMILE Nge ur making me wary of you again
Good
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Try to get my pov pls
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:24 p.m.
The music I'm listening to is making Mafia feel like a cool battle :0
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Getting tr’d early and easily
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I'm listening to rap fr
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Makes it kinda boring
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charlie
I'm listening to rap fr
Im watching it
11:25 p.m.
Omfg
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Funny the vote asks for a reason, i submit the reason but where does it go to
11:25 p.m.
yes
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Guillo
Funny the vote asks for a reason, i submit the reason but where does it go to
If you click on the command
11:25 p.m.
It shows the reason
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As in when you click to replies
11:25 p.m.
To see the og message
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Oooh nice ok
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Your reason is “performative”
11:26 p.m.
Which i still dont get bc
11:26 p.m.
The one performative thing
11:26 p.m.
Is to smth not even game related
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Ngekop
Makes it kinda boring
Anyways @charlie
11:26 p.m.
And it makes me die early
11:26 p.m.
Which i dislike
11:26 p.m.
While i dont get ml’d
11:26 p.m.
And if i do
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Im not the problem
11:26 p.m.
It’s town being stupid
11:26 p.m.
:)
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charlie
Okay Sunny has any of your reads on people progressed or...
guillo seems more scummy to me rn maybe i shouldn't look too much into it but pushing for the lynch to be one of the inacs instead of a talker feels off aside from like... everything he's done and said
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Ngl i do care about getting ml’d here
11:27 p.m.
Bc ml’s are unlikely to advance
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Ngekop
It’s town being stupid
Are you calling me stupid for voting you?
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Guillo
Are you calling me stupid for voting you?
If you stay there and i get lynched
11:27 p.m.
You’d be part of stupid yes
11:27 p.m.
(Or mafia)
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SUNNY!!
guillo seems more scummy to me rn maybe i shouldn't look too much into it but pushing for the lynch to be one of the inacs instead of a talker feels off aside from like... everything he's done and said
leaning more towards abyss being town too a little bit
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SUNNY!!
leaning more towards abyss being town too a little bit
nods
11:28 p.m.
What made you change abyss to town
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If sunny is scum he is 100% getting coached
11:28 p.m.
Btw
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Oh yeah 100%
11:28 p.m.
and im eating it up rn
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By a more experienced player
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Sunny is improving a lot, and I'm unsure bc the setup is comfortable for him, or he just is like fuck this shit
11:29 p.m.
Because I know he is ehhh when expressing how he truly feels
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charlie
Sunny is improving a lot, and I'm unsure bc the setup is comfortable for him, or he just is like fuck this shit
Uh
11:29 p.m.
I think i can say this bc he is dead
11:29 p.m.
But like
11:29 p.m.
He just got ml’d as mason
11:29 p.m.
So how can this setup be comfortable for him
11:29 p.m.
😭
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okay so u know
11:29 p.m.
big games
11:29 p.m.
hes super quiet
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and doesn't really talk a lot
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this is a smaller game which I think he might feel more comfortable in
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He almost never talks
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charlie
this is a smaller game which I think he might feel more comfortable in
I get this tho
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:30 p.m.
TRUE THO
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:30 p.m.
Sorry, relatable stuff triggered in me
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If sunny is mafia, who would be coaching him
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Guillo probs
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Like what player fits this kind of playstyle
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ziel ong
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Maaaaaaaybe lily
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SUNNY!!
ziel ong
This kid is hilarious
11:31 p.m.
I love him
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EOTH 😳 actuually
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charlie
If sunny is mafia, who would be coaching him
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:31 p.m.
Someone who'd probably want to distance?
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charlie
EOTH 😳 actuually
But he’d be
11:31 p.m.
Posting more
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Nah, I don't think u need to post to coach
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I mean ig i could be? I coached twinny after all
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charlie
Nah, I don't think u need to post to coach
Ik
11:32 p.m.
But if you are putting effort
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On coaching your partner
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To not post yourself as well would be
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Sunny if you had to choose someone to coach u who would u pick
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Not really like coherent
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charlie
Sunny if you had to choose someone to coach u who would u pick
Me pls
11:32 p.m.
Pick me
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:32 p.m.
I'd do Nge tbh
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Calla would be good too probs tbh
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BRUH NAH ME thats my mentee nods
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Anemoia/Abyss
I'd do Nge tbh
WE KILLED IT
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:32 p.m.
My first Mafia game with him he was GREAT
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Me and sunny secrelty a scum team fr
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In your first game
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Yes
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You were too
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charlie
BRUH NAH ME thats my mentee nods
Yeah fair
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:33 p.m.
and he was a good coach in Hydra
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charlie
Me and sunny secrelty a scum team fr
REAL 🙏🏼🙏🏼
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SUNNY!!
REAL 🙏🏼🙏🏼
I'll text u in the scum chat hold up
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Ngekop
Guillo probs
Lol, i dont coach people.
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charlie
I'll text u in the scum chat hold up
we gotta decide on the kill tn i forgot 😔
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As scum the first thing i say is, if you mess up I will buss you
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Guillo
Lol, i dont coach people.
You helped me coach twinny
11:34 p.m.
Wdym
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Guillo
As scum the first thing i say is, if you mess up I will buss you
Yes
11:34 p.m.
But you do coach
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Ngekop
You helped me coach twinny
Huh?
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If your partner asks for help/advice
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SUNNY!!
we gotta decide on the kill tn i forgot 😔
shit yeah, I was thinking uhh lets just kill uh eoth 😔
11:34 p.m.
He gotta go
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Especially if new
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I cant deal with his gifs anymore
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You bussed twinny but helped me coach him
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Ngekop
If your partner asks for help/advice
Answering questions is not coaching
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charlie
I cant deal with his gifs anymore
yeah my gifs are better 🙏🏼🙏🏼
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He said what he could do
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Twinny claimed mafia when he was on my mafia team 😍
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And you and i told him
11:35 p.m.
What to do
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Anyways
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SUNNY!!
yeah my gifs are better 🙏🏼🙏🏼
fr, also how r u feeling right now tho in the game
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I dont remember doing that
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Not important ig
11:35 p.m.
But yes he
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100% is town or getting coached
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Or both
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Well if you knew you were town, who else has the experience to coach besides you Nge?
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I know i am
11:36 p.m.
Calla and lily fs
11:37 p.m.
And calla would 100% do that
11:37 p.m.
Imma say calla+sunny aint it tho
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Idk Im really good at interacting with my scum partner 😍
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Idk how does lily behave with her partners so 🤷‍♂️
11:37 p.m.
But i know she is good and experienced
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Would Calla openly defend Sunny the way they have here as a scum partner?
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charlie
Idk Im really good at interacting with my scum partner 😍
Yeah still you two arent both scum
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Guillo
Would Calla openly defend Sunny the way they have here as a scum partner?
Probs yes no cap
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Guillo
Would Calla openly defend Sunny the way they have here as a scum partner?
I bus and defend as scum so
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Overall tho idt they are
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charlie
fr, also how r u feeling right now tho in the game
think we're doing well,, hoping i want ziel to say something please 😔
11:38 p.m.
and the other guy
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SUNNY!!
think we're doing well,, hoping i want ziel to say something please 😔
we?
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Genesis
11:38 p.m.
I want genesis to talk too
11:38 p.m.
😭
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Do u think im town imgaslightingyou
11:39 p.m.
Yeah EOTH + ziel + other guy need to say something
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@genesischaos whenever you come in talk pls
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maybe sus
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charlie
Yeah EOTH + ziel + other guy need to say something
Other guy has a name 😒
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yeah their name is other guy
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Ngekop
Other guy has a name 😒
Im sorry, but u seem to know him whats his meta
11:40 p.m.
lets meta share everybody
11:40 p.m.
my meta on eoth...none.
11:40 p.m.
When i sent him the quax + todi + me video and asked him who scum was
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he said we were all town
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we were actually all mafia
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As you can tell his reads still r crazy
11:41 p.m.
Okay guy don't meta share ig?
11:44 p.m.
Okay let me actually give real meta
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Town Lily Sonny Callahan Anemoia Mafia Ngekop
11:45 p.m.
That's where im at
11:46 p.m.
I need to head out. Hopefully the others post as well
11:46 p.m.
And then i can analyze
11:46 p.m.
Good night
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charlie
Im sorry, but u seem to know him whats his meta
Lol i have
11:47 p.m.
ONE game with him
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charlie
he said we were all town
Lmfaooo
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Ngekop
ONE game with him
And that one game he barely talked
11:48 p.m.
And was clearly there mostly bc his friend king kong was
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Kong said he was really smart tho
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And im p sure he signed up just bc kong did
11:49 p.m.
So i hope them being in different games doesnt make him be way less motivated
11:49 p.m.
Although i expect that to be the case
11:50 p.m.
@Ziel :D exist pls
11:51 p.m.
I do remember when i was town with guillo i didnt agree with a single thing he said btw
11:51 p.m.
I also remember him being way more annoying than rn tho
11:52 p.m.
I have 0 scum meta from lily
11:53 p.m.
He misread me both games i played with her tho (well kinda; in one she tr’d me then tunneled me then tr’d me again, i was town…so maybe that doesnt count)
11:53 p.m.
Still weird she got an early gut tr on me
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@Anemoia/Abyss hi we need you to contribute a bit more
11:53 p.m.
(Sorry)
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:53 p.m.
More? ALRIGHT!
11:54 p.m.
Got this
11:54 p.m.
W
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:54 p.m.
Totally
11:54 p.m.
:>
11:54 p.m.
Any thoughts on guillo/lily?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:55 p.m.
No thought behind these eyes
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You implied me/calla/sunny probs town
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:55 p.m.
Mhm
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Anemoia/Abyss
No thought behind these eyes
Try to give some tho
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:55 p.m.
More Sunny than you two
11:55 p.m.
K
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Anemoia/Abyss
More Sunny than you two
That’s fair
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:56 p.m.
Town Lean+: Sunny Town Lean: Nge, Calla Null: Everyone else
11:56 p.m.
More reads than I usually have
11:56 p.m.
That’s 3 more reads than usual
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:56 p.m.
Whoop whoop
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Which is smth im both glad and scared about
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Ngekop
That’s 3 more reads than usual
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:56 p.m.
Ouch
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Anemoia/Abyss
Ouch
Early d1 it is
11:57 p.m.
Why ouch
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:57 p.m.
It's true, but still ouch
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Do u guys want my meta on ppl imgaslightingyou
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You usually refrain from sharing those early
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charlie
Do u guys want my meta on ppl imgaslightingyou
did you type for like 5 minutes to send that
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:57 p.m.
It's almost like you think I don't have reads this early!
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i was typing but
11:57 p.m.
i have it copied
11:57 p.m.
i just wanted to ask
11:58 p.m.
copyed
11:58 p.m.
copied?
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Ngekop
You usually refrain from sharing those early
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:58 p.m.
I don't refrain, I usually just don't have any to be correct 🤓
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charlie
copied?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:58 p.m.
Copied*
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thank u
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-01 11:58 p.m.
Yep
11:59 p.m.
Anyways soon enough I'll read into Gullio
11:59 p.m.
It's been a while since I've played with them
11:59 p.m.
(although it was on the avengers one soooo)
11:59 p.m.
(right?)
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Anemoia/Abyss
Town Lean+: Sunny Town Lean: Nge, Calla Null: Everyone else
Wait why do you town lean me + nge?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:02 a.m.
The pressure on me felt town led
12:02 a.m.
Imo
12:03 a.m.
Unless someone else thinks otherwise, I'd like to hear from them. Anybodyyyy?
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Well these r ur own reads, ur reads should be influenced by other ppl lol
12:03 a.m.
shoudlnt
12:03 a.m.
😳
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:04 a.m.
Ik, but I want others opinions
12:04 a.m.
:>
12:04 a.m.
What's your opinion.
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Oh your read on me?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:05 a.m.
Yes.
12:05 a.m.
And the pressure.
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Well, it is right bc I am town, but if I remember you town read Sunny bc they sounded genuine, did me and nge not sound genuine?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:07 a.m.
Sunny just sounds like the most genuine person I've ever seen in mafia as of yet
12:07 a.m.
You two... I can't say sound genuine since you can just easily fake that
12:07 a.m.
Y'all are advanced
12:07 a.m.
BUT y'all were towny to me because you put pressure on me
12:08 a.m.
I'm not a very good target of lynching as mafia I'd assume
12:11 a.m.
So, what do you have to respond to that, Callahan.
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And Nge ig
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Anemoia/Abyss
It's almost like you think I don't have reads this early!
Uh well yes? Or you dont share them at least
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:12 a.m.
(I was being a jokester)
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Anemoia/Abyss
(although it was on the avengers one soooo)
Oh but he didnt play there
12:12 a.m.
He was host
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:12 a.m.
But he did, but as a character)
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Anemoia/Abyss
And Nge ig
So here’s the thing
12:13 a.m.
With you i’d 100% do whatever it takes for you to tr me
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:13 a.m.
Hmmmmmmmm
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I’d aim for you tr’ing me, rather than an easy ml on you
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Anemoia/Abyss
So, what do you have to respond to that, Callahan.
Im rethinking
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:14 a.m.
That sounded almost desperate, except with the wording you used
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The thing is
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I feel like my reads are now wrong so
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I feel confident
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Ngekop
With you i’d 100% do whatever it takes for you to tr me
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:14 a.m.
Idk why but I'm talking about this
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On being able to “pocket you”
12:14 a.m.
As either alignment kinda
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charlie
I feel like my reads are now wrong so
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:15 a.m.
Take your time, we have the entire world(we don't but STILL)
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Although as town rn im prioritizing getting a correct read on you
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:15 a.m.
Hm
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Anemoia/Abyss
Take your time, we have the entire world(we don't but STILL)
😭 got u
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:15 a.m.
Alr
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I think abyss/sunny/calla has 0-1 mafias always
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:15 a.m.
Same
12:15 a.m.
No way there's a double Mafia here
12:15 a.m.
If you want to say same
12:16 a.m.
Ig you would have to include me there
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For it to make sense
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I kinda think anemoia is a wolf
12:16 a.m.
from recent posts
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:16 a.m.
Ok
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Interesting
12:16 a.m.
Why is that so
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:16 a.m.
^^
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Nahhh bc im rethinking that too LOL
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charlie
Nahhh bc im rethinking that too LOL
Doesnt make it less interesting
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I get very genuine vibes from the rest of the thread, don't rly buy a lot of his posts
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I think your overdoing it now Ane
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I havent tr’d him
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which is off putting
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charlie
I think your overdoing it now Ane
Yep
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How do I vote?
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I do think it’s fair to say
12:17 a.m.
Nge/abyss/calla/sunny has at most one
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Ngekop
As either alignment kinda
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:17 a.m.
As either alignment? Like if I was Maf too?
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Anemoia/Abyss
As either alignment? Like if I was Maf too?
No
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So now im back down to 2 town leans
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lilypetal
I get very genuine vibes from the rest of the thread, don't rly buy a lot of his posts
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:17 a.m.
Ok :/
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If i was maf or town
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charlie
So now im back down to 2 town leans
Wut
12:17 a.m.
Sunny and?
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Ngekop
No
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:17 a.m.
Then I'm misunderstanding you
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Sunny and Gillo
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charlie
Sunny and Gillo
Wow
12:18 a.m.
I didnt expect the guillo one
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Ngekop
If i was maf or town
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:18 a.m.
Oh
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Yeah u were a town lean bc of ane, but now ane isn't a town lean anymore im like no
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Bc i think if abyss is maf
12:18 a.m.
Then guillo would be too
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charlie
Yeah u were a town lean bc of ane, but now ane isn't a town lean anymore im like no
Lol wat
12:18 a.m.
You think i could be maf with abyss
12:18 a.m.
?
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I was thinking out of this world a bit ago
12:18 a.m.
No
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how do i vote
12:18 a.m.
:<
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lilypetal
How do I vote?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:18 a.m.
You do /vote (player name) pretty sure
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lilypetal
how do i vote
/vote
12:19 a.m.
In vote channel
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vote channel?
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And a command will appear
12:19 a.m.
#4th-qual-1-vote
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:19 a.m.
Lemme test it rq
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charlie
No
Then?
12:19 a.m.
If abyss is town that still applies
12:19 a.m.
And if abyss is maf and we cant be teamed
12:19 a.m.
Then im just town?
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Im thinking
12:20 a.m.
Idk how
12:20 a.m.
i reached my conclusion that
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If ane was town then u were town
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Idk either
12:20 a.m.
@Anemoia/Abyss why lily
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Oh
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Just an example
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Nvm
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:20 a.m.
I was testing vote
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Yeah ok
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:21 a.m.
Now I know how to vote :>
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Ngekop
Then guillo would be too
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:21 a.m.
Why Guillo?
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@lilypetal what about guillo made you tl him
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charlie
Yeah u were a town lean bc of ane, but now ane isn't a town lean anymore im like no
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:21 a.m.
But why not?
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Yeah, I do believe ane is overdoing it now which is like ? 😭 and now i gotta reread everything
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Anemoia/Abyss
Why Guillo?
From all the people in here
12:21 a.m.
You are the one guillo reads kinda disingenuous on
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:22 a.m.
I'd not like to be srd please
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As in hus approach on you
12:22 a.m.
His*
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And you have subtly avoided him on your like game
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And as i said
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Given the focus guillo wants to put in the afk’s
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Ngekop
You are the one guillo reads kinda disingenuous on
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:22 a.m.
Disinwhaa?
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If he’s maf i think it’d be with someone who isnt afk
12:23 a.m.
And well
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In your case if you were maf idt it wouldve been with calla/sunny and now idt with lily either
12:23 a.m.
So guillo or an afk would make sense
12:23 a.m.
So guillo/abyss is
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Kinda fair
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Anemoia/Abyss
Disinwhaa?
Not genuine
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Ngekop
@lilypetal what about guillo made you tl him
i forgot
12:24 a.m.
i think a mindmeld or something like that
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he basically came to a conclusion that felt towny to me cuz i also had it
12:24 a.m.
id have to look
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If you could point out which one
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maybe
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I’d appreciate it
12:24 a.m.
If you cant then rip
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does it matter that much
12:24 a.m.
and if so why
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lilypetal
does it matter that much
It would help
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lilypetal
and if so why
Get a better lead on you
12:25 a.m.
And if i tl you and i agree with your point
12:25 a.m.
Then also tl guillo
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And that would be
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charlie
Yeah, I do believe ane is overdoing it now which is like ? 😭 and now i gotta reread everything
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:26 a.m.
Eh, idrc if I'm overdoing what I'm doing, I'm having some fun with this game so far
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Really helpful bc it indeed would make it almost 100% for me it being a mafia in the afk’s
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Anemoia/Abyss
Eh, idrc if I'm overdoing what I'm doing, I'm having some fun with this game so far
W
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Anemoia/Abyss
Eh, idrc if I'm overdoing what I'm doing, I'm having some fun with this game so far
Okay glad ur having fun, but ur overdoing it which feels so fake, like its unnerving no offense 😭
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Ngekop
And you have subtly avoided him on your like game
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:27 a.m.
I don't remember sayinguch about Guillo except I null him and I'll read into him later
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charlie
Okay glad ur having fun, but ur overdoing it which feels so fake, like its unnerving no offense 😭
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:27 a.m.
Overdoing what tho?
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If ane flips maf then nge is cleared bc Ane picked up what nge said to have no filter? is he trying to like make nge town read him like
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:27 a.m.
Wait- unnerving?
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Ngekop
Get a better lead on you
alright valid
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Anemoia/Abyss
I don't remember sayinguch about Guillo except I null him and I'll read into him later
That’s
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Exactly what i was referring to
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charlie
If ane flips maf then nge is cleared bc Ane picked up what nge said to have no filter? is he trying to like make nge town read him like
W
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charlie
If ane flips maf then nge is cleared bc Ane picked up what nge said to have no filter? is he trying to like make nge town read him like
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:28 a.m.
No filter is fun, I don't think why having no filter would help me except making reading my as maf or town easier?
12:29 a.m.
Yikes, being sussed is pretty:/
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The thing is
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Even if no filter
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Guillo
Calla gives me the LAMIST vibes
this
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You are kinda coming out as holding yourself a bit
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and then guillo saying i towntold there was good for him imo
12:29 a.m.
just felt like we were on same wavelength
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Anemoia/Abyss
Wait- unnerving?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:30 a.m.
Btw sorry for being unnerving
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Crap what i feared
12:30 a.m.
It makes a sense from a pov where you’re town
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Anemoia/Abyss
Overdoing what tho?
I don't know how to describe it but like, it's just your trying too hard for no reason, like trying to be look im so townie, and how you are thinking is a little weird, like ur piggybacking off a lot of ideas me and nge said about u, specifically me when I said mafia would not vote u bc they would pocket u. Also ur not unnerving, thats the wrong word, like i just didnt know how else to describe it LOL
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Ngekop
Exactly what i was referring to
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:30 a.m.
I don't know why I'd talk much about Gullio tbh, not my main priority to focus on him or smth rn
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But it also could be wrong and guillo be maf and also could be faked from you so uh
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💀
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You seem to be agreeing with anything that could point u to town
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Ngekop
You are kinda coming out as holding yourself a bit
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:31 a.m.
It really is what my thought process is- this is me no filter, but I have the "online etiquette" filter on still because no way am I going to be rude.to people
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Anemoia/Abyss
I don't know why I'd talk much about Gullio tbh, not my main priority to focus on him or smth rn
Not saying you should but like i’m saying it would make sense for you two to be partnered
12:32 a.m.
That’s it
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charlie
You seem to be agreeing with anything that could point u to town
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:32 a.m.
Eh, I'll have to look into that more
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Ok
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what do u mean u have to look into that more 😭
12:33 a.m.
I dont remember u once being like eh i don't think so to any explanation to why u might be town
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charlie
I don't know how to describe it but like, it's just your trying too hard for no reason, like trying to be look im so townie, and how you are thinking is a little weird, like ur piggybacking off a lot of ideas me and nge said about u, specifically me when I said mafia would not vote u bc they would pocket u. Also ur not unnerving, thats the wrong word, like i just didnt know how else to describe it LOL
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:33 a.m.
Makes sense, sorry I'm trying hard on this game because I want to continue to the next rounds
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Oh okay
12:33 a.m.
Hm
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charlie
I dont remember u once being like eh i don't think so to any explanation to why u might be town
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:34 a.m.
Shhh shhh, you're right but still
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I'm kinda going with what others are saying
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Whether I agree or not
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Like if im telling u that scum will pocket u, shouldn't u be worried that me or nge might be trying to pocket u
12:35 a.m.
But you just slapped a town lean on us
12:35 a.m.
I may or may not be overthinking right now I'm not sure
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Ngekop
You think i could be maf with abyss
the thought crossed my mind "what if these two were scum distancing", but nah
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Ngekop
Given the focus guillo wants to put in the afk’s
Anemoia is not an AFK, yet another misrepresentation on people.. micro tells, micro tells yum yum yum
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I think i wouldnt be bringing that much attention to him
12:39 a.m.
His response to my pressure tho
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Would probs be what i tell him to say
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But eh
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Ngekop
Not saying you should but like i’m saying it would make sense for you two to be partnered
you don't believe this
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Guillo
Anemoia is not an AFK, yet another misrepresentation on people.. micro tells, micro tells yum yum yum
I never said he was
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Guillo
you don't believe this
Wouldnt be my 2/2 but i wouldnt be surprised
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charlie
Like if im telling u that scum will pocket u, shouldn't u be worried that me or nge might be trying to pocket u
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:40 a.m.
I view you two as a likely town so it's not exactly my main concern, but I'm looking out for it
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Like why is that impossible
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Because you kknow I dont defend teammates
12:40 a.m.
I bus them, I distance from them
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Among the players who have talked
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Teammates to me are on their own
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Imo you two are the most suited partner for each other if mafia
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Guillo
Teammates to me are on their own
Fair
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I'm no one's partner but by meta alone, I'm not
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Idk why cant you just
12:41 a.m.
Yk
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Change your meta for a game
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Cause i dont want to?
12:42 a.m.
cause it is difficult
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Guillo
Because you kknow I dont defend teammates
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:42 a.m.
Based on this I'd fear my life if Gullio was my teammate
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cause I prefer to be obvious town
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:42 a.m.
Gullio is still Null to me tho
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I dont defend teammates, much less if they are known LHFs
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Guillo
cause it is difficult
Not if you genuinely believe your partner towntold
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Anemoia/Abyss
Based on this I'd fear my life if Gullio was my teammate
Lmaooooo
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Like I don't think an LHF is more worth than myself, for me to defend a partner, it has to be someone I consider more skilled than me
12:44 a.m.
and I know it sounds arrogant
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but yah
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:45 a.m.
Ok uhh
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Yeah
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Guillo
Like I don't think an LHF is more worth than myself, for me to defend a partner, it has to be someone I consider more skilled than me
Ooor bc you genuinely believe your partner towntold which makes it both something you’d say as town that could get you tl’d and smth that distances yoj two bc of your established meta that plenty of people in here knows
12:46 a.m.
You*
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:47 a.m.
That's... Too much thinking for me-
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I agree with your pov but still
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Im saying it isnt impossible imo
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But fair
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You are onto maybes, on speculatives instead of evidence that you have gathered personally from playing with me and against me.
12:48 a.m.
I'm not gonna let you create a dichotomy between Anemoia and I my friend
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Guillo
You are onto maybes, on speculatives instead of evidence that you have gathered personally from playing with me and against me.
What’s wrong with that
12:58 a.m.
I’m not even pushing it
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I’m arguing it could be
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Like legit im not even pushing either of you
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You however
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Are right
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:59 a.m.
Back from my small break
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Ngekop
What’s wrong with that
what's wrong with that is that scums do that by associating a partner with a town to mislynch later, im covering my bases here in case you are scum with Ane
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 1:04 a.m.
Wait... Could you simplify that?
1:05 a.m.
Gullio, are you town?
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sure, I'm crashing down any possibility that Ngekop is setting me up for later, by associating me with you if you both are scum together
1:05 a.m.
yes, i am
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do you believe me?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 1:05 a.m.
Alr
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Guillo
sure, I'm crashing down any possibility that Ngekop is setting me up for later, by associating me with you if you both are scum together
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 1:06 a.m.
Ohhhhhh
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Guillo
what's wrong with that is that scums do that by associating a partner with a town to mislynch later, im covering my bases here in case you are scum with Ane
You said yourself you dont think that’s the case
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Guillo
do you believe me?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 1:06 a.m.
Idk yet, I'll have to talk more with you
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Why is you acting like that in case im maf with ane valid
1:06 a.m.
But me considering and thinking about a world where you and him are partnered not
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Ngekop
You said yourself you dont think that’s the case
I said what myself?
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Guillo
I said what myself?
That me and abyss are teamed
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Ngekop
That me and abyss are teamed
Im not saying you are teamed
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Im saying what’s wrong with me doing what im doing when you are doing smth similar
1:08 a.m.
Aka not letting this go to a path where if x and y are teamed we can get screwed over
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Because i was not the one creating a dichotomy between you
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based on speculation
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you are
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Im saying it shouldnt be off the table if one of you flips scum
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 1:08 a.m.
(I'm still here, uh- I've gone out of my hyper brainy mode, but I'll try to contribute)
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Which idt is wrong to say
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Like you can just be town and it wont matter
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Ngekop
Im saying it shouldnt be off the table if one of you flips scum
No it should be off the table by the end of today actually
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Guillo
No it should be off the table by the end of today actually
That’d be cool
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nice, we do that examining all your reasons to create such dichotomy
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 1:10 a.m.
Shouldn't we try to find out individuals first instead of melting our brains and focusing on partners?
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that are not speculation on what I'd do, that is not provable
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Anemoia/Abyss
Shouldn't we try to find out individuals first instead of melting our brains and focusing on partners?
I believe Ngekop is scum
1:10 a.m.
but I'm willing to listen to other ideas
1:11 a.m.
whom do you have in mind?
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Anemoia/Abyss
Shouldn't we try to find out individuals first instead of melting our brains and focusing on partners?
That’s what i usually do
1:13 a.m.
Here however it’s harder when 3 people arent even posting
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Nge, give me a readlist please
1:13 a.m.
same for you Ane
1:14 a.m.
I dont have a single tr or sl rn
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Only tl’s
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On calla/sunny/abyss
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And im confident that has at most one scum
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Guillo
whom do you have in mind?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 1:14 a.m.
Uhhhhhhhhh
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:>
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No one actually
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that is concerning
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 1:15 a.m.
3 reads is actually really good for me :>
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But they're all town-
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oh, which are they again?
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Guillo
that is concerning
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 1:15 a.m.
Ouch
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Anemoia/Abyss
Ouch
I say cause when i hosted marvel, you had readlists in your private journal
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Guillo
oh, which are they again?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 1:16 a.m.
Might change them later but Sunny Town Calla, Nge Townlean
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am I wrong?
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Guillo
am I wrong?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 1:16 a.m.
I forgot
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based lol
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 1:16 a.m.
With this memory of mine, I forgot almost everything about that game
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Guillo
I say cause when i hosted marvel, you had readlists in your private journal
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 1:17 a.m.
That doesn't sound like me- unless it was like D3 or smth
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I can't even blame you for it
1:17 a.m.
you were very... motivated that game, but privately
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 1:17 a.m.
I was?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 1:18 a.m.
Cool
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you were kinda a slank publicly
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 1:18 a.m.
As you can see, my memory is WHACK
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Guillo
you were kinda a slank publicly
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 1:18 a.m.
I'm guessing that's a bad thing?
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Mine is WHACK unless it is not
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Anemoia/Abyss
I'm guessing that's a bad thing?
I mean you were town that game
1:19 a.m.
and I saw you slanking as scum
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so it is NAI
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 1:19 a.m.
Yeah- and I was kinda dumb that game tbh
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Shooting a town-
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Then accidentally sending someone to the whatever thing
1:20 a.m.
BUT LET'S STICK TO THIS GAME
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 1:20 a.m.
Uhh let's see here
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I wont be able to solve lily’s slot today
1:23 a.m.
But i do think chat has been mostly town dominated
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Readslists

Ngekop has: calla/sunny/abyss townlean with at most 1 scum there. Anemoia has: Sunny Town, Calla, Nge Townlean Guillo has: Town Lily, Sonny, Callahan, Anemoia. MafiaNgekop
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If not completely
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can I edit posts here?
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Can i laugh at you postgame if you are town?
1:24 a.m.
And no you cant
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Ngekop
Can i laugh at you postgame if you are town?
Genuine question, not intending for you to change reads or anything
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Ngekop
Can i laugh at you postgame if you are town?
yah you can, i will not care regardless, nice appeal to ego right there
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Yeah ok the first part was all i cared about
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To the second part i know
1:26 a.m.
And in fact that is more scummy than towny so like idk why do you think i’d say it like that
1:26 a.m.
If i didnt mean it
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do i look like i know what is in your mind?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 1:27 a.m.
The morning will probably let me clear my head better, but I'll stay on here
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you said "can I laugh at you post game" for what I assume is that from yout PoV as town is that I'm I'm wrong about you. I said sure, i will not care regardless, and find it scummy that you are trying to emotionally blackmail me with a promise of mocking me like I am some sort of high schooler
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Guillo
do i look like i know what is in your mind?
No but you should know what is not in it like this
1:29 a.m.
I know
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And im saying
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Me saying that
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Is way more likely
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To be perceived as scummy from you
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So why would i say it as scum?
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When i know this
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Who knows? I don't know, sometimes scums cant help it
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Im instead just wanting to laugh at you at some point without being thaaaaat mean
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Guillo
Who knows? I don't know, sometimes scums cant help it
You think that low of me huh
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I didn't until you said that
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You have used meta to approach me this game so tell me when have i intentionally scumtold as maf
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Well not intentionally
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More like
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Uh
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For you to say that you are gonna laugh at me, whether it is genuine or fake, just the premise of that statement is.... insulting
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Deliberstely
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Deliberately*
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Guillo
For you to say that you are gonna laugh at me, whether it is genuine or fake, just the premise of that statement is.... insulting
Not really bc i want to make sure you wont take it personal
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Bc it isnt
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Ok cool
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Everyone can be wrong
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so why say you are gonna laugh at me at all
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I want to be able to laugh about people being wrong on me just bc even if bad it makes me feel a bit less uh unsatisfied
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Guillo
so why say you are gonna laugh at me at all
It was asking if i could without you getting upset
1:33 a.m.
If you said no then i wouldnt do it bc it’d be extra mean on my side
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Oh you can but... it is not like it is gonna make me upset, more like... disappointing because the idea is childish
1:34 a.m.
If this whole thing is genuine
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Guillo
you said "can I laugh at you post game" for what I assume is that from yout PoV as town is that I'm I'm wrong about you. I said sure, i will not care regardless, and find it scummy that you are trying to emotionally blackmail me with a promise of mocking me like I am some sort of high schooler
Oh hes guilt trip me before in a mafia game 😔
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He was town but like
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Yeah
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I dont appreciate it tbh, I come here playing under the assumption that we are gonna be good sports regardless of the outcome.
1:36 a.m.
I don't know what you saught to get with that but I certainly don't townread it, if anything, it is making me more tunneled on you
1:36 a.m.
Good night
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Guillo
Oh you can but... it is not like it is gonna make me upset, more like... disappointing because the idea is childish
Yeah ik it is childish
1:37 a.m.
Which is why i said it’s bad
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However tho
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If you dont care
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And even if for wrong reasons makes me feel slightly better
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Then why not
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charlie
Oh hes guilt trip me before in a mafia game 😔
Tbf it came under a rule misunderstanding and i stand by what i said there if the rule wasnt like that
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Guillo
I dont appreciate it tbh, I come here playing under the assumption that we are gonna be good sports regardless of the outcome.
Yeah so i ask
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If you mind it then i just
1:38 a.m.
Dont do it
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It’s like asking you to apologize post game but the opposite way
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Bc idgaf about apologies in mafia games tbh bc you have nothing to apologize for unless you intentionally gamethrow or intentionally dismiss smth that couldve easily made our alignment win which wont be the case here with you so who cares
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Guillo
I don't know what you saught to get with that but I certainly don't townread it, if anything, it is making me more tunneled on you
Im saying if you use logic
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It makes no sense for me to say it impulsively as scum to you
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Bc it indeed comes out as more scummy than towny
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And you, having used meta on me constantly today, cant tell me a time where i deliberately scumtold
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As scum
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Ngekop
On calla/sunny/abyss
I don't really understand this? Like how did u even reach this conclusion?
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What conclusion
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Like we if we all Tl's then how is one of us scum?
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I said at most
1:45 a.m.
Sticker
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Yeah how did u get to that
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1. I tl all of you and i doubt i am wrong in 2 of those
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Like im really confused
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2. I dont team read either 2 of y’all
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charlie
Like im really confused
Your confusion confuses me
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Bc i think it’s p clear
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Im so fucking confused rn
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Hi eoth
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But one of us is scum ?
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charlie
But one of us is scum ?
I
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Never
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Said
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Such
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A
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Thing
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Omfg
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Ngekop
And im confident that has at most one scum
Yes u did?
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fking
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MOST
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Yeah idk what u r meaning by MOST
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????????
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like wtf is most
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At most
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Meaning
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Not more than
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??????
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Like this is legit
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Hurting my brain rn
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I feel so dumb rn idk why im not getting what u r saying
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 1:48 a.m.
current reads so far: Town: Ngekop, Guillo, Anemoia Leans town: Sunny Neutral: Ziel, genisischaos Potential scum: callahan, lilypetal
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EasyOnTheHills
current reads so far: Town: Ngekop, Guillo, Anemoia Leans town: Sunny Neutral: Ziel, genisischaos Potential scum: callahan, lilypetal
😍
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(Pls elaborate on like all of them tho)
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EasyOnTheHills
current reads so far: Town: Ngekop, Guillo, Anemoia Leans town: Sunny Neutral: Ziel, genisischaos Potential scum: callahan, lilypetal
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charlie
girl
Shhh let them cook
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they aint cooking
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Yes they are
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💀 they got me wrong so no they arent cooking
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Never said they were cooking smth good
1:50 a.m.
Just said they were cooking
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That’s all i care about rn
1:51 a.m.
I want to read what eoth has to say
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There is no way eoth actually read this game and came to that conclusion 😭
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There is no way you dont let them explain before saying stuff like that 😭
1:53 a.m.
I do think however lily/calla never the team here
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But that’s more bc of how you echo’ed each other on abyss
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But im guessing the reads are like individual so that doesnt matter
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 2:19 a.m.
seems like most the day so far has been ngekop vs guillo, which is strange to me if one of them is scum here (though this could just be because they are the most active so far, will have to wait for the day to develop more) Guillo's push is an extremely bold one if scum here, generally coming off as a kinda selfish and headstrong townie Ngekop gives good vibes so far, don't think he's had any poor posts so far and seems to be genuinely interested in advancing the gamestate, which isnt a position I think scum would take right now Anemoia has some more questionable posts, but this comes off to me as a more newbie townie so far, though I would like to see their content improve a bit later on Sunny also gives good vibes but im not sure how much of that so far is charisma rather than actually being townie lilypetal im leaning scum so far, she started the game pretty strong but then quickly switched up her read on callahan and then her reads are kinda very basic after that, reading anemoia as scum isnt wrong but seems strange for her to do after seeing how her read on callahan developed Callahan is scum cause she is SUS, but actually it just feels like shes forcing herself to make posts rather than it being genuine + the lily connection i stated above Ziel and genisischaos havent said anything yet so i cannot really read them, but them being gone so far also makes reads in general pretty unreliable this early on id say
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EasyOnTheHills
seems like most the day so far has been ngekop vs guillo, which is strange to me if one of them is scum here (though this could just be because they are the most active so far, will have to wait for the day to develop more) Guillo's push is an extremely bold one if scum here, generally coming off as a kinda selfish and headstrong townie Ngekop gives good vibes so far, don't think he's had any poor posts so far and seems to be genuinely interested in advancing the gamestate, which isnt a position I think scum would take right now Anemoia has some more questionable posts, but this comes off to me as a more newbie townie so far, though I would like to see their content improve a bit later on Sunny also gives good vibes but im not sure how much of that so far is charisma rather than actually being townie lilypetal im leaning scum so far, she started the game pretty strong but then quickly switched up her read on callahan and then her reads are kinda very basic after that, reading anemoia as scum isnt wrong but seems strange for her to do after seeing how her read on callahan developed Callahan is scum cause she is SUS, but actually it just feels like shes forcing herself to make posts rather than it being genuine + the lily connection i stated above Ziel and genisischaos havent said anything yet so i cannot really read them, but them being gone so far also makes reads in general pretty unreliable this early on id say
You have 6 paragraphs and when replying i will address which paragraph im talking about
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Why do you say vibes so much
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 2:21 a.m.
cause its still pretty early
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So my whole read is a feel...
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Okay
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nods
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 2:22 a.m.
a feel that your posts so far come off as forced, yes
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EasyOnTheHills
seems like most the day so far has been ngekop vs guillo, which is strange to me if one of them is scum here (though this could just be because they are the most active so far, will have to wait for the day to develop more) Guillo's push is an extremely bold one if scum here, generally coming off as a kinda selfish and headstrong townie Ngekop gives good vibes so far, don't think he's had any poor posts so far and seems to be genuinely interested in advancing the gamestate, which isnt a position I think scum would take right now Anemoia has some more questionable posts, but this comes off to me as a more newbie townie so far, though I would like to see their content improve a bit later on Sunny also gives good vibes but im not sure how much of that so far is charisma rather than actually being townie lilypetal im leaning scum so far, she started the game pretty strong but then quickly switched up her read on callahan and then her reads are kinda very basic after that, reading anemoia as scum isnt wrong but seems strange for her to do after seeing how her read on callahan developed Callahan is scum cause she is SUS, but actually it just feels like shes forcing herself to make posts rather than it being genuine + the lily connection i stated above Ziel and genisischaos havent said anything yet so i cannot really read them, but them being gone so far also makes reads in general pretty unreliable this early on id say
2. Tbh guillo can be bold as in that isnt out of his scum range.
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Uh
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Not much to say
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I like the insight on lily especially
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Even if i dont fully agree
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I like it as in content from eoth
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charlie
How?
Im also interested in that part
2:23 a.m.
Other than the “am i playing to a higher level” stuff idt there is much that comes off as that
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I am playing at a higher level
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I began to think on what scum would be doing viewing the current event
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It was insane
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But, it probs bc i took my ADHD medication today and I felt wow
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Yeah but you have said that explicitly a fair amount of times
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Kinda feels overdone
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Yeah, Ik you havent reached that point
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its okay
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I would be jealous too ig
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Very odd that you now have a problem with it nods
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Didn't mention anything before 🤭
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charlie
Yeah, Ik you havent reached that point
Uh
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charlie
Very odd that you now have a problem with it nods
Bc i dont really
2:26 a.m.
Overall you dont seem forced
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So im interested on eoth’s response to that
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EasyOnTheHills
seems like most the day so far has been ngekop vs guillo, which is strange to me if one of them is scum here (though this could just be because they are the most active so far, will have to wait for the day to develop more) Guillo's push is an extremely bold one if scum here, generally coming off as a kinda selfish and headstrong townie Ngekop gives good vibes so far, don't think he's had any poor posts so far and seems to be genuinely interested in advancing the gamestate, which isnt a position I think scum would take right now Anemoia has some more questionable posts, but this comes off to me as a more newbie townie so far, though I would like to see their content improve a bit later on Sunny also gives good vibes but im not sure how much of that so far is charisma rather than actually being townie lilypetal im leaning scum so far, she started the game pretty strong but then quickly switched up her read on callahan and then her reads are kinda very basic after that, reading anemoia as scum isnt wrong but seems strange for her to do after seeing how her read on callahan developed Callahan is scum cause she is SUS, but actually it just feels like shes forcing herself to make posts rather than it being genuine + the lily connection i stated above Ziel and genisischaos havent said anything yet so i cannot really read them, but them being gone so far also makes reads in general pretty unreliable this early on id say
i don't dislike this but your way of gauging time is insane, this day has barely started and i've posted throughout the day so idk how you're saying i fell off just because i made some level 0 posts
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I said that’s all i could think of
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lilypetal
i don't dislike this but your way of gauging time is insane, this day has barely started and i've posted throughout the day so idk how you're saying i fell off just because i made some level 0 posts
Hm im assuming he is used to like shorter games so maybe 7h can feel like long in here
2:28 a.m.
EOTH has played forums before
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Then nvm
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Still tho
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A fair amount of content has been provided so far
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Ngekop
Hm im assuming he is used to like shorter games so maybe 7h can feel like long in here
bizarre
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So it isnt that like insane to perceive it that way
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You dont have to defend EOTH
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Like guillo already is asking for readslists to people
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Im not defending tbh
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Kind of are
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Not him at least
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Im defending my point on that part of his post
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Bc it is the thing i liked the most from it
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(The paragraph on lily)
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Lily was talking to EOTH not u
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charlie
How?
EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 2:31 a.m.
you just keep saying stuff about being good and helping town but you arent really building reads and seem to just be piggybacking off of others for the most part
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And ur defending EOTH? EOTH can speak for himself
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LOL
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Im replying to her comment in eoth’s paragraph on her bc k disagree
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charlie
And ur defending EOTH? EOTH can speak for himself
He doesnt need a defense since he isnt even voted or anything
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Im just defending my thought
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EasyOnTheHills
you just keep saying stuff about being good and helping town but you arent really building reads and seem to just be piggybacking off of others for the most part
I literally never said one thing about being good other than saying I'm town? Which I am? I have been building reads, and they have been changing? I have not piggybacked off of others? I feel like you didn't read my slot at all?
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EasyOnTheHills
you just keep saying stuff about being good and helping town but you arent really building reads and seem to just be piggybacking off of others for the most part
I think her approaches on abyss and sunny are kinda like intending to build up stuff
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I can defend myself 😭
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Im joining the discussion sharing my view on the matter
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Like not bc the topic isnt about me doesnt mean i cant join the discussion
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EasyOnTheHills
you just keep saying stuff about being good and helping town but you arent really building reads and seem to just be piggybacking off of others for the most part
None of this seems forced at all if you are viewing it like that, you would be saying I would be coasting rather then being forced?
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Like?
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lilypetal
i don't dislike this but your way of gauging time is insane, this day has barely started and i've posted throughout the day so idk how you're saying i fell off just because i made some level 0 posts
EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 2:34 a.m.
its not timing its progression, you opening by starting a read into callahan but then went from a scum read to a town read on her pretty suddenly and then jumped on anemoia is scum without saying much after that, it just seems like strange progression
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EasyOnTheHills
its not timing its progression, you opening by starting a read into callahan but then went from a scum read to a town read on her pretty suddenly and then jumped on anemoia is scum without saying much after that, it just seems like strange progression
so wouldn't you want to ping me to ask about that if it's so strange?
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So if lily and I are partners why would we just randomly hop on Ane together?
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modcheck
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you seem more content posting statements rather than investigating in that case
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but anyhow because of the format it's hard for me to be invested long term in specific discussions or alignments
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charlie
So if lily and I are partners why would we just randomly hop on Ane together?
Dont copy me grrr
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i read some posts and went eh callahan kinda towny
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Ngekop
Dont copy me grrr
Oh did u say that
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sorry
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and then i read some posts and went oh wow anemoia feels fake
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So here’s my issue
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7/9 people have posted
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I sl 0 of them
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These reads that EOTH has are so half assed, I'm not trying to discredit at all but they r so rushed
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You can tell he read the beginning well, skimmed throught the middle, and read a little deeper at the end, that was it.
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 2:40 a.m.
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I can tell he read tho
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Ziel and genesis still not posting is disappointing ngl
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Not disappointing
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But lame and demotivating
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charlie
You can tell he read the beginning well, skimmed throught the middle, and read a little deeper at the end, that was it.
what does that say for his alignment?
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seems like most the day so far has been ngekop vs guillo, which is strange to me if one of them is scum here (though this could just be because they are the most active so far, will have to wait for the day to develop more) Guillo's push is an extremely bold one if scum here, generally coming off as a kinda selfish and headstrong townie Why is his push bold in your opinion and what push? The nge push? Ngekop gives good vibes so far, don't think he's had any poor posts so far and seems to be genuinely interested in advancing the gamestate, which isnt a position I think scum would take right now Why wouldn't scum take that position right now? Anemoia has some more questionable posts, but this comes off to me as a more newbie townie so far, though I would like to see their content improve a bit later on Okay, i wanna follow this into lilypetal's read on how u said reading anemoia as scum isn't wrong? So hes newbie townie here but now is scum in lily's read? Sunny also gives good vibes but im not sure how much of that so far is charisma rather than actually being townie This is just a gut read lilypetal im leaning scum so far, she started the game pretty strong but then quickly switched up her read on callahan and then her reads are kinda very basic after that, reading anemoia as scum isnt wrong but seems strange for her to do after seeing how her read on callahan developed Your reads are also really basic? You literally have the same reads as basically everybody else expect for me and Lily, like we all have very similar town reads right now? Callahan is scum cause she is SUS, but actually it just feels like shes forcing herself to make posts rather than it being genuine + the lily connection i stated above weak and disproven Ziel and genisischaos havent said anything yet so i cannot really read them, but them being gone so far also makes reads in general pretty unreliable this early on id say fine this is fine
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what does that say for his alignment?
idk honestly
2:45 a.m.
just shows poor reading skills to me
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I can't tell if eoth accidently slipped with the ane scum thingy?
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charlie
seems like most the day so far has been ngekop vs guillo, which is strange to me if one of them is scum here (though this could just be because they are the most active so far, will have to wait for the day to develop more) Guillo's push is an extremely bold one if scum here, generally coming off as a kinda selfish and headstrong townie Why is his push bold in your opinion and what push? The nge push? Ngekop gives good vibes so far, don't think he's had any poor posts so far and seems to be genuinely interested in advancing the gamestate, which isnt a position I think scum would take right now Why wouldn't scum take that position right now? Anemoia has some more questionable posts, but this comes off to me as a more newbie townie so far, though I would like to see their content improve a bit later on Okay, i wanna follow this into lilypetal's read on how u said reading anemoia as scum isn't wrong? So hes newbie townie here but now is scum in lily's read? Sunny also gives good vibes but im not sure how much of that so far is charisma rather than actually being townie This is just a gut read lilypetal im leaning scum so far, she started the game pretty strong but then quickly switched up her read on callahan and then her reads are kinda very basic after that, reading anemoia as scum isnt wrong but seems strange for her to do after seeing how her read on callahan developed Your reads are also really basic? You literally have the same reads as basically everybody else expect for me and Lily, like we all have very similar town reads right now? Callahan is scum cause she is SUS, but actually it just feels like shes forcing herself to make posts rather than it being genuine + the lily connection i stated above weak and disproven Ziel and genisischaos havent said anything yet so i cannot really read them, but them being gone so far also makes reads in general pretty unreliable this early on id say fine this is fine
Lol last time she did this it was about ziel in that camper game
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yeah bc these reads are BAD
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Im actually trying to read YOU through those
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yeee
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i think im just gonna vote him or ane
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lol
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Idc if the reads are good or bad
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I just care where do they come from
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im content with sunny / callahan / guillo town
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i think nge has shown towny moments
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and has a pulse
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so
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And idt im currently leaning maf over town perspective
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im kinda vibing
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Like did he slip i cant tell 💀 bc he was like ane is noob town but in lily's read hes like ane is scum
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like
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modcheck
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 2:48 a.m.
That's not what I said at all...
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girlie
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yes
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u did
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reread what u said
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Im with eoth
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In this one
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 2:48 a.m.
You are misinterpreting the read
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"her reads are kinda very basic after that, reading anemoia as scum isnt wrong"
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how am i misreading that?
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“The fact she is sr’ing abyss isn’t bad from her imo”
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That’s how i read that
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okay well i didnt read it like that
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🤷‍♂️
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 2:50 a.m.
Reading ane as scum isn't wrong but going from building a good read on someone to then suddenly changing that read and picking up a super basic one out of nowhere is sus and that was the entire point, the progression of how lily was making reads didn't add up
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I think the context kinda
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Gives it away
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EasyOnTheHills
Reading ane as scum isn't wrong but going from building a good read on someone to then suddenly changing that read and picking up a super basic one out of nowhere is sus and that was the entire point, the progression of how lily was making reads didn't add up
how was it out of nowhere tho?
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Eoth pls be town :)
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I’ll be happy if you are
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dude stop omfg
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And satisfied
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 2:51 a.m.
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Bc that’s what i am currently leaning
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pingu
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Im scared tho bc like rn im fr lost
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how r u lost??
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Bc no one is scummy
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Everyone who has talked
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Obviously someone is rn with their half ass reads 💀
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Has more chances of being town
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Eoth is more towny than scummy
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And now im more biased on that bc i want it to be right
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 2:53 a.m.
I also don't get why Callahan and Lily are so upset at my reads rn, if you wanna say they aren't super concrete that is ok, they are not super concrete, I said as much in my original post, not sure why you two defaulted to a borderline omgus on me
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EasyOnTheHills
I also don't get why Callahan and Lily are so upset at my reads rn, if you wanna say they aren't super concrete that is ok, they are not super concrete, I said as much in my original post, not sure why you two defaulted to a borderline omgus on me
Sticker
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I like this person
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You have me in your pocket
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EasyOnTheHills
I also don't get why Callahan and Lily are so upset at my reads rn, if you wanna say they aren't super concrete that is ok, they are not super concrete, I said as much in my original post, not sure why you two defaulted to a borderline omgus on me
Yeah they arent super concrete
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 2:54 a.m.
You have a Gon pfp so as far as I'm concerned you've already pocketed me too
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Let’s go
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It's very obvious you skimmed
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Bruh we wouldve killed it as mason
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 2:54 a.m.
True
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I even had this plan of you like sr’ing me and even voting me
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Bc i trust myself to get out of it
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charlie
It's very obvious you skimmed
EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 2:55 a.m.
Next time I'll just continue to shit post with gifs all of D1
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EasyOnTheHills
Next time I'll just continue to shit post with gifs all of D1
Atleast those would be better LOL??
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charlie
It's very obvious you skimmed
Idk what’s wrong with not reading every single post tho
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charlie
Atleast those would be better LOL??
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EasyOnTheHills
Reading ane as scum isn't wrong but going from building a good read on someone to then suddenly changing that read and picking up a super basic one out of nowhere is sus and that was the entire point, the progression of how lily was making reads didn't add up
How?
2:56 a.m.
I read someone as scum who I didn't prior have a read on because they weren't in thread
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What could you possibly mean lol
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 2:56 a.m.
Yeah you don't have to read quite literally everything, I think I touched on what was important so far and trying to discredit my reads because I "skimmed" doesn't make any sense, that would seem to imply that I missed some important details which if so what did I miss?
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It's filler reads + reads everybody literally has right now or thought about, I don't know why you are like oh hes town, and then him putting me with Lily is crazy? And he couldn't even explain well why I sounded forced? He litterally got it wrong? He should of said I was coasting with how he was thinking I was doing?
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EasyOnTheHills
I also don't get why Callahan and Lily are so upset at my reads rn, if you wanna say they aren't super concrete that is ok, they are not super concrete, I said as much in my original post, not sure why you two defaulted to a borderline omgus on me
I just think your read on me is sloppy and bad
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that's all rly
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EasyOnTheHills
Yeah you don't have to read quite literally everything, I think I touched on what was important so far and trying to discredit my reads because I "skimmed" doesn't make any sense, that would seem to imply that I missed some important details which if so what did I miss?
You are literally a parrot 💀
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and like u might be scum cuz of it
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but im not changing my vote YET
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cuz ane is scummier
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charlie
It's filler reads + reads everybody literally has right now or thought about, I don't know why you are like oh hes town, and then him putting me with Lily is crazy? And he couldn't even explain well why I sounded forced? He litterally got it wrong? He should of said I was coasting with how he was thinking I was doing?
I disagree with a lot of stuff in here tbh
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Basic reads for lily but litterally has the same town reads as most people like?
2:58 a.m.
And I think as Lily too?
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LIKE???
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Especially in the first half
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 2:58 a.m.
My reads are wildly different than the rest of the game rn
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Ngekop
I disagree with a lot of stuff in here tbh
okay
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charlie
Basic reads for lily but litterally has the same town reads as most people like?
Everyone is p much
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EasyOnTheHills
My reads are wildly different than the rest of the game rn
Dude only with me and Lily
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Tr’ing everyone
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Also how is the tr on me
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Smth everyone shares
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Guillo is voting me
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You dont tr me
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You have the same town reads as basically everybody, so I don't know why u are like i have different reads
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like?
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Im not even top3 for lily
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Sunny said i did smth scummy
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How is that a shared read
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I dont tr guillo
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Neither does abyss
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Or sunny
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And you and lily dont tr abyss
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Like
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if ur town and guillo is town then eoth's reads are probably proper for a wolf
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And litterally the read on me is combind with lily, like u should of just put me as null like 💀
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think abt it that way
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 2:59 a.m.
Yeah my reads are literally not the same as anyone elses
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lilypetal
if ur town and guillo is town then eoth's reads are probably proper for a wolf
So?
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The point calla makes
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Is flawed
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Af
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GIRLY>>
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think about how a wolf wants to play this game
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how they have to push
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lilypetal
think about how a wolf wants to play this game
No that’s fine
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What calla said isnt tho
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okay
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How am i flawed
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deadass
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its true??
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im just saying that ur view is a bit bad and not thinking about wolf pov
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has nothing to do with callahan
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“Reads everybody literally has right now”
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That’s
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Just
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fucking
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serious rn
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Absolutely wrong
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r u fucking
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omfg
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💀
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dude dont talk to me rn
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honestly
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in the morning yes
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but not rn
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It is absolutely wrong
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I wont shut up about that
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 3:01 a.m.
Now I'm really starting to lean Callahan as scum more with these reactions
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Litterally making a big deal about nothing?
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lilypetal
im just saying that ur view is a bit bad and not thinking about wolf pov
If you want to discuss the eoth pov that’s smth else
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EasyOnTheHills
Now I'm really starting to lean Callahan as scum more with these reactions
these reactions are so towny LOL
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wdym
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EasyOnTheHills
Now I'm really starting to lean Callahan as scum more with these reactions
Dude im already SUS to u so idc??
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Liek what r u going to do eoth
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deadass
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I think from the pov of someone who hasnt read everything
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kill me?
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at night?
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The read on you is
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Not that bad
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I dont agree but
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callahan
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vote with me
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Idt it’s scummy
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ngekop, keep being town
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Ngekop
Idt it’s scummy
got u
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you're being pocketed pretty blatantly
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but that's okay
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im pretty sure this game is like solved
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I still wanna hear from Ziel and whatever that person's name
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@Guillo when you have time, read around here
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lilypetal
you're being pocketed pretty blatantly
Oh idc about that tbh
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If i am then alright
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im just letting u know
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charlie
I still wanna hear from Ziel and whatever that person's name
Can you
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ur compromised a bit
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Pls stop saying it like that
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and arguing with a villager
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so like
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oh okay
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uh
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wait
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Chaos :)
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Genesischaos
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lilypetal
and arguing with a villager
I can read into that later tbh
3:03 a.m.
As i already said
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I hate this rn bc
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I dont sl anyone
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Oh i have a few scum leans all right
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So im clearly wrong somewhere
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ngekop what's your read on me?
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(Or this is just a lame af game with genesis and ziel mafs which is unlikely af)
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lilypetal
ngekop what's your read on me?
Null until this
3:04 a.m.
It got better now
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alright
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besides your like
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problems?
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with callahan
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whats your read on her
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problems with me..
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😔
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Slight tl ig?
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But she isnt out if her scum range
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Like definitely isnt
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callahan shush
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She got defensive about eoth’s list even before he expanded
3:06 a.m.
Which i dont like
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why not?
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Bc you want afk’s to give reads and input
3:06 a.m.
And she was kinda shutting it down beforehand
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you should maybe reread her reactions a bit when you're less biased, i think the reactions were incredibly towny
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Which if i can think like that im p sure calla would do even harder
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what's your read on guillo?
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Bc calla has that mindset bigger than me
3:06 a.m.
Tbh
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lilypetal
what's your read on guillo?
Absolutely null
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why? don't you think he's done AI things?
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Gth town (again this is for every person who has talked)
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lilypetal
why? don't you think he's done AI things?
Nothing out of his scum range tho and nothing particularly scummy
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alrighty
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Like i have only 3 games with guillo and the one time he was scum he played p well
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i believe you and callahan are 100% town atp
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I havent seen you as scum
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sunny and guillo p towny
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Why am i town idgi
3:08 a.m.
I think i was
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Way townier
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every post you've just made is towny lol
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In the last games i played with you
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And you sr’d me in both of them
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im p sure i imisread you as town in one of them
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and you were scum
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lol
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I was town in both
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i dont rly remember
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You sr’d me in both
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i wasnt paying much attention in both of those games tho
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(In one of them tho you ended up tr’ing me but this was like d4)
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yeah
3:09 a.m.
i had the solve that game
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lilypetal
i wasnt paying much attention in both of those games tho
Uhm
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In the mountainous hydra you werent??
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You were killed n1
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And you were kinda tunneling me
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oh that game?
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i meant the discord ones
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That’s the one i remembered tho
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idk that game i kinda goated and then got n1'd so i dont remember much of it loool
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That one and the one where relm ml’d us b2b smh
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lilypetal
idk that game i kinda goated and then got n1'd so i dont remember much of it loool
You tunneled me d1
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And i was town
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And i was right in my sr btw
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yeah and then i arrived at eod and bagged a wolf
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Which im proud of
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and ate n1
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lilypetal
yeah and then i arrived at eod and bagged a wolf
Uh did you? I fr dont remember where did your vote end
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yeah
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Nvm i think you did vote maf
3:11 a.m.
But like
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So did 4 other people
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And those 4 pushed harder than you tbf
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Anyways not the point
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My point is
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this is irrelevant ye
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I think i was townier that game than i am rn
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And you hard sr’d me
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it was a hydra game so like
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So idgi why am i that towny this time
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from my pov your opinion abt it is irrelevant lol
3:12 a.m.
i didnt know which head is which
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nor did i even realize that was you
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till you just mentioned it
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Sigh well it kinda sucks bc
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That’s my only reference on you
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And i know you’re a good player
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we played 2 discord ones together
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and those games i didnt care too much but i did play
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Yeah but you didnt do much on either
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so? meta is a crutch read me on my content
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And tbh rn i only remember one
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lilypetal
so? meta is a crutch read me on my content
I know
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Am I pushing the game forward? am I solving?
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Read my content and make a read
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I said i tl you rn
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good
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then there's no problem here
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now you need to find callahan
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But i dont get why am i tr’d for you and i know i dont have enough like basis to have you as like strong tr so that makes me wary
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lilypetal
now you need to find callahan
Sigh
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you're blatantly towntelling all over thread
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This will be a nightmare
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and you're wondering why I'm finding you?
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lol
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I always tr her
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idk how to help u there bud
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ur towny
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deal with it
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lilypetal
you're blatantly towntelling all over thread
Guillo clearly doesnt agree lol
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maybe he'll read this and change his mind
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lilypetal
and you're wondering why I'm finding you?
Yes i am bc i’ve been townier than this
3:15 a.m.
Imo
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And i wasnt found back then
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those types of reads kinda suck
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It isnt a type of read tho
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well
3:15 a.m.
it is
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you're using experiences to make a read that you should be wary of my tr
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but it's incorrect
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don't do that
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Im not really
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Bc you still havent said more than “you’re towny deal with it”
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So that on its own even if you ignore past experiences
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Isnt enough tl feel comfortable about a tr on you
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i mean ive specifically dragged you into a conversation that I'm townreading you for
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do I need to like
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explain it?
3:17 a.m.
more?
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than your posts and responses show thought and nuance
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Sigh
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Well it’s still just
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1/6 of day
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I can just go to sleep pingu
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ye ill probs go to bed too
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and then not read anything
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bye
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!
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But yeah im kinda wary bc
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Not only you
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But i have 0 sr’s
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Which just aint right
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Fn
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Gn*
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lilypetal
you should maybe reread her reactions a bit when you're less biased, i think the reactions were incredibly towny
Btw after his explanations sure ig kinda but i didnt like her immediate reaction to his initial post having just the reads there
3:20 a.m.
Also regarding his reads i thought of it and like
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Idt tr’ing the LHF’s while sr’ing two stronger players one of which was p much tr’d and would most likely win a 1v1 against him is smart
3:21 a.m.
I actually think his worst reads are the tl’s on abyss and sunny
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Which uh…why would he do that as scum instead of maybe take advantage of the current momentum on abyss and put him at least at null
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Unless they’re partnered ofc but eh
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I’ll develop on that thought tmrw tbh but idt that’s the team even if ig lily will just disagree
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Ngekop
And you, having used meta on me constantly today, cant tell me a time where i deliberately scumtold
The game where we were scum / traitors, where we were not informed that we were a team, you were obvious scum but i had to shut up because there is no way i was gonna bus you in that game. Im as confident that you are scum here as i was there. And this that you said here is WIFOM territory and as such, im gonna judge it for i took it and felt it.
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Ngekop
Hurting my brain rn
Why would there be 1 scum at most there? Sounds like a rule of three to me.
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Ngekop
I do think however lily/calla never the team here
Why?
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EasyOnTheHills
seems like most the day so far has been ngekop vs guillo, which is strange to me if one of them is scum here (though this could just be because they are the most active so far, will have to wait for the day to develop more) Guillo's push is an extremely bold one if scum here, generally coming off as a kinda selfish and headstrong townie Ngekop gives good vibes so far, don't think he's had any poor posts so far and seems to be genuinely interested in advancing the gamestate, which isnt a position I think scum would take right now Anemoia has some more questionable posts, but this comes off to me as a more newbie townie so far, though I would like to see their content improve a bit later on Sunny also gives good vibes but im not sure how much of that so far is charisma rather than actually being townie lilypetal im leaning scum so far, she started the game pretty strong but then quickly switched up her read on callahan and then her reads are kinda very basic after that, reading anemoia as scum isnt wrong but seems strange for her to do after seeing how her read on callahan developed Callahan is scum cause she is SUS, but actually it just feels like shes forcing herself to make posts rather than it being genuine + the lily connection i stated above Ziel and genisischaos havent said anything yet so i cannot really read them, but them being gone so far also makes reads in general pretty unreliable this early on id say
What questionable posts does Anemoia have? (He is not a newbie) Not wrong on Lily fading away after her entrance but she fades away as both town and scum, but townie thought if you havent met lily before. What does her progression on Callahan have anything to do with Anemoia though? Please can you point out the posts you felt were forced from Callahan?
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charlie
Why do you say vibes so much
What is the problem with this?
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Ngekop
Other than the “am i playing to a higher level” stuff idt there is much that comes off as that
Scummy micro tell. Taking off importance from the target's answer before the target says anything, which contradicts with the “let him cook” statement earlier.
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lilypetal
i don't dislike this but your way of gauging time is insane, this day has barely started and i've posted throughout the day so idk how you're saying i fell off just because i made some level 0 posts
You had fell off in activity though up until this point though?
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Ngekop
Hm im assuming he is used to like shorter games so maybe 7h can feel like long in here
How do you figure this?
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charlie
You dont have to defend EOTH
Callahan is def town
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Callahan, give me a readlist please
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Actually do stay out of 1v1 conversations, you look like you are whiteknighting people.
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EOTH/Lily not aligned Callahan/Lily not aligned
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Why are you so OMGUSy all,of the sudden?
8:02 a.m.
@charlie what is your read on Sunny please?
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Ok, im not liking some of your reactions to EOTH reads my friend. 1) it is really obvious he means the Nge push as you have bolded it here, how can it not be clear already? 2) Good question 3) Ok sure, i answers about that too. 4) What's wrong with gut reads? Your tone is discrediting the gut read, why? 5) I dont like it you accusing his reads of being very basic when he is willingly offering them without prodding him about it, i dont like the fact that you are defending Lily right now even though you accused Nge of defending EOTH, i dont like the fact that you are trying to classify his reads as basic and generic even though you admit he has different reads on both you and lily. 6) The read on you is indeed weak, do you scum read the weak read? Or? 7) ok.
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What? Why poor reading is alignment indicative?
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Are you not interested in knowing more?
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So fast to want to jump the gun there @lilypetal
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Im gonna need a readlist from you as soon as you see this Callahan. You are coming off as freaking out about EasyOnTheHillscread on you and Lily.
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Yes! That is very very concerning
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????
8:23 a.m.
Ok Ngekop's reactions are similar to mine
8:24 a.m.
EOTH is town
8:25 a.m.
Lily/Callahan cant be scum together overreacting to EOTH publicly though, can they?
8:26 a.m.
No, i dont think scum act this way unless they are doing that specifically to throw me off and that is a very egoistic way to think
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I dont see it. I think he is town
8:30 a.m.
Callahan is reacting like a wolf whom is afraid that townies will not townread her after EOTH's reads and is trying to shut it down at all costs, i dont like her AtE either.
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charlie
dude dont talk to me rn
This AtE
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charlie
Dude im already SUS to u so idc??
You are sus to me now, do you care? And you clearly care about EOTH's read on you, you are freaking out all over the place for it. @lilypetal why are you not seeing this?
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lilypetal
these reactions are so towny LOL
What?
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lilypetal
@Guillo when you have time, read around here
Ive read all of it and honestly the reaction ive seen from both you and callahan perplexes me, why are you both acting like you both got caught by EOTH?
8:35 a.m.
Yah i dont understand it
8:37 a.m.
So either both of you are scum together you @lilypetal and @charlie know each other's alignments somehow and are OMGUSing together. What is it?n
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lilypetal
every post you've just made is towny lol
Every post? Why the lol?
8:39 a.m.
Ok Nge is town
8:45 a.m.
@lilypetal up until this point ive been accepting you treating me like im your mason, cause the idea of baiting the kill for the whoever the real masons are gives me purpose, but i dont like your reaction to EOTH and how you dont see that Calla's reaction to him are overblown and aggressively OMGUSy, so im gonna state that if i was a mason, my mason would not be Lilypetal and disassociate myself from you.
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Ngekop
Guillo clearly doesnt agree lol
I didnt? And?
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Ngekop
Which uh…why would he do that as scum instead of maybe take advantage of the current momentum on abyss and put him at least at null
Correct again
8:52 a.m.
Town EasyOnTheHill Ngekop Sunny Anemoia Scum Callahan Lily Unless these two end up being Masons, (if they are, if im thinking it whoever scum are are thinking it too because they are very obviously paired) which i dont care to out because i dont like their reaction to EOTH and if scum can resolve them for me even better!
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i actually read allat 🙏🏼🙏🏼🔥
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Guillo
I didnt? And?
I meant I didnt. And?
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SUNNY!!
i actually read allat 🙏🏼🙏🏼🔥
Readlist please
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Guillo
EOTH/Lily not aligned Callahan/Lily not aligned
Yah never mind about lily/calla here
9:25 a.m.
Go on Sunny
9:25 a.m.
I saw you typing
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Guillo
Readlist please
not crazy fancy since i was asleep when you guys were talking but Town Read - Town Lean - EOTH, Guillo: I don't entirely think that Guillo is town, because of things I mentioned earlier in the day during the back and forth between him and nge, but he's been acting more townie now and pushing for reads and stuff. Not sure if he's just switching up now just to escape getting lynched, but I trust him for now. EOTH's readlist, and how he handled the reactions to pretty townie to me!! I think i still need to see more of him though, considering his inactivity at the start. Of course, he hasn't voted Calla or Lily either, so he's not entirely town to me. Null - Nge, Ziel, Other Guy I really cannot tell whether NGE is town or maf right know, since it seems like he's playing for both sides rn. 😭 I brought up the thing where he was trying to quietly imply he was town, saying things like "i can't be mafia because if i was i would do this instead of that" which will never not seem scummy to me. At the same time, most of the stuff he's doing is fairly townie, questioning his own votes and everyone else,, Ziel and Other Guy haven't said a word, unless I missed them. Nothing to go off of 💔 Scum Lean - Lily, Calla Sorry, but I feel like Callahan is trying to blend in with town by making jokes and talking w/ me, saying we're a team and stuff,,, I agree but it's the same thing she did in past games when she was scum, so i can't be sure if it's genuine here either 😞 Her reaction to EOTH's SR was a bit much to me, especially since both her and lily started pushing against EOTH after that. Lily isn't completely Scum to me, but she seems very aligned with Callahan, even asking calla to vote with her and asking people for reads on Callahan specifically Scum Read: none lol
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I dont understand your reads
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vuys respond i feel stupid
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1) what posts from me are townie?
9:36 a.m.
2) If Nge seems like playing for both sides, wouldnt this mean he is unaligned?
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mainly these kinds of things https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169610956922421338 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169613165726810142 you seem to SL/SR calla and lily after EOTH posted his reads, but aren't pushing them like crazy and are giving them a chance which just seems townie to me, being unsure about things like this without hearing the reasoning from both sides (at least i hope that's what you doing) 2) I didn't mean that literally,,,, Maybe I should've phrased it better, but I feel that NGE has both scummy and townie traits here 🤷‍♂️
9:42 a.m.
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Fair, i've had the same impression but his real time reactions to callahan which were similar to mine places him in my town list or i will gladly accept that he played me
9:44 a.m.
That being said i do have potential pairings
9:44 a.m.
Lily/Callahan Nge/AOTH
9:46 a.m.
@SUNNY!! where is your vote?
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You havent voted a single time today Sunny
9:47 a.m.
Even though you allegedly have had suspicions on people
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forgor im still giving ziel and other guy the benefit of the doubt, that they'll speak so i can get a full list and actually decide who's more likely to be an SR
9:49 a.m.
i should vote though,, maybe
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SUNNY!!
forgor im still giving ziel and other guy the benefit of the doubt, that they'll speak so i can get a full list and actually decide who's more likely to be an SR
Say they both zero post up until one hour before EoD? What would you do about it?
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id say it depends on the reasoning on why they were afk but in that case I'd just go for one of my SLs since I don't have anything else 💔
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I like it
9:57 a.m.
Good answer
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Why in your scum reads, you say none and then laugh, what is the story?
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hey its @Ngekop
10:00 a.m.
i wonder if he remembers me
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Guillo
Why in your scum reads, you say none and then laugh, what is the story?
nothing special, i just didn't wanna leave it blank 😭
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hey @SUNNY!! how far should i scroll up and read
10:04 a.m.
guess ill read all of it then
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you missed a lot 💔 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169425200773857300 I know its a lot but i think this is a good place if you're looking for EVERYTHING and not just a small summary
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yeah i skimmed through a lot of it
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I suggest not to skim anything
10:16 a.m.
Catch up, you still have 33 hours left, lots of time to catch and participate
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Litterally what is this I’m so confused
10:49 a.m.
Why are back to nitpicking
10:49 a.m.
We
10:51 a.m.
My reaction is apparently was the only thing scummy about me, which I don’t believe is scummy at all because lol? I being mirco read rn which is crazy 😭
10:52 a.m.
Like tell me how I am suppose to react SMILE
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No. Those things are not told.
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So okay I wanna you to tell me something
10:53 a.m.
My overall game play is town, correct?
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So one single thing is now pointing me as scum in your eyes?
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Guillo
No
Obviously, what other scummy things have I done?
10:54 a.m.
Because you didn’t metion them 💀
10:54 a.m.
In your read
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I dont need to, you are scum because your reaction to a single player's read with no influence was overblown, you TMIed a slank town in my opinion.
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Oh okay we love when ppl can't talk with other ppl?
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What is more perplexing is lily,she should know better
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You don't wanna talk to me to see if I slip u my scum partner or something
10:56 a.m.
Like what kind of logic is rhat
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💀
10:56 a.m.
I mean sure you go ahead and talk
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Why wouldn't u talk to me if u think I'm scum
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Am i refusing to talk to you? Arent we talking right now?
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You won't tell me what else makes me scummy…?
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I addressed your reaction to EasyOnTheHill, so far you have not ounter it and you are admitting it looks scummy so, i cant be more convinced
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I don't think it's scummy
10:58 a.m.
I don't believe it's an overreaction
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Well it is
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I don't even think it was a big reaction
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And Nge stated it
10:59 a.m.
And Sunny as well
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Um I didn't know Nge was this big deal to you?
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It three voices mow
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Weren't u just scum reading him a minute ago…?
10:59 a.m.
💀
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charlie
Um I didn't know Nge was this big deal to you?
Newsflash, we townies can change our minds when we please
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Girlie
10:59 a.m.
Omfg
11:00 a.m.
Anyways
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charlie
Weren't u just scum reading him a minute ago…?
I thought you read my content, have you not?
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I don’t think my reaction was a overreaction, I generally believe his reads were very poor, I didn’t like how he was thinking, I didn’t like his reasons + they counteracted him a lot, and overall is was sloppy. I expect wayyyy better from him as a player, so I guess you can see I’m rather disappointed, and generally a bit upset that he thought I was scum because I really do think I’m probably have been playing the best version of myself this game and I’m very obviously town.
11:03 a.m.
I’m not sure how else to defend myself or my actions but pushing forward into the game and not hyper focusing on it
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charlie
I don’t think my reaction was a overreaction, I generally believe his reads were very poor, I didn’t like how he was thinking, I didn’t like his reasons + they counteracted him a lot, and overall is was sloppy. I expect wayyyy better from him as a player, so I guess you can see I’m rather disappointed, and generally a bit upset that he thought I was scum because I really do think I’m probably have been playing the best version of myself this game and I’m very obviously town.
You were towny up until that point, then you just freaked out.
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
Starting from here and 9 pings is INSANE
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Guillo
You were towny up until that point, then you just freaked out.
Yeah which I explained above, I really don’t think I freaked out but I really can’t change your opinion other then trying to work with you to see I am town in other ways ig
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Guillo
The game where we were scum / traitors, where we were not informed that we were a team, you were obvious scum but i had to shut up because there is no way i was gonna bus you in that game. Im as confident that you are scum here as i was there. And this that you said here is WIFOM territory and as such, im gonna judge it for i took it and felt it.
Wrong
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Bc there arent 2
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Reads : Ngekop - Null Sunny - Town Lean Chaos - Null Ziel - Null Lily - Null Ane - Scum lean Guillo - Town lean EOTH - Scum lean
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Keep reading?
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Im at a point where im willing to execute you and lily back to back just to make sure i didnt catch you both slipping, which would be a story for the ages because i've never seen two scum outing themselves for one single guy coming out of nowhere with actual reads
11:05 a.m.
@Ngekop
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Guillo
Im at a point where im willing to execute you and lily back to back just to make sure i didnt catch you both slipping, which would be a story for the ages because i've never seen two scum outing themselves for one single guy coming out of nowhere with actual reads
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Stop pretending you are catching up
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Guillo
What questionable posts does Anemoia have? (He is not a newbie) Not wrong on Lily fading away after her entrance but she fades away as both town and scum, but townie thought if you havent met lily before. What does her progression on Callahan have anything to do with Anemoia though? Please can you point out the posts you felt were forced from Callahan?
1. Imo he still is a newbie 2. EXACTLY, AGREED 3. ^^
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Guillo
Im at a point where im willing to execute you and lily back to back just to make sure i didnt catch you both slipping, which would be a story for the ages because i've never seen two scum outing themselves for one single guy coming out of nowhere with actual reads
That doesn’t make sense? When you can literally keep reading me and figure out I’m town?
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lilypetal
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Did i not type proper English?
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Did you get worse overnight
11:06 a.m.
What happened
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The thing I don’t understand why me and Lily are partner is our very early interactions like, why as scum partners would we be throwing hands so early?
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charlie
That doesn’t make sense? When you can literally keep reading me and figure out I’m town?
Or i can execute the crap out of you and find that answer easily.
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Why would she point out my “LAMST” post
11:07 a.m.
As my scum partner
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lilypetal
Did you get worse overnight
Read my content, town you does it
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Guillo
Scummy micro tell. Taking off importance from the target's answer before the target says anything, which contradicts with the “let him cook” statement earlier.
Not really, im putting more pressure on them having to give a convincing answer if they are scum bc im already leaving the precedent that i, someone who has read everything, didnt see that; while if he is town then he’ll just answer genuinely the same thing he wouldve done so otherwise
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So early in the day like?
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Guillo
Read my content, town you does it
I just woke up
11:08 a.m.
So I'm going to read my pings and reply
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Guillo
Or i can execute the crap out of you and find that answer easily.
Why is this so anti town
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Guillo
How do you figure this?
Bc callahan is from there and she’s the one who invited him
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Just saw that post and went wow that's sad
11:08 a.m.
Lmao
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Guillo
Actually do stay out of 1v1 conversations, you look like you are whiteknighting people.
Idgaf i speak my mind if i have thoughts, no need to restrain myself there
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charlie
The thing I don’t understand why me and Lily are partner is our very early interactions like, why as scum partners would we be throwing hands so early?
Because maybe scum!lily knows i read into those and tried to throw me off. Or maybe you both are not scum but one of you is.
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Guillo
Callahan is def town
Bc of that? Wat
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Guillo
Because maybe scum!lily knows i read into those and tried to throw me off. Or maybe you both are not scum but one of you is.
So I gotta die bc Lily might be scum 😭
11:09 a.m.
LIKE??
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charlie
So I gotta die bc Lily might be scum 😭
No, you gotta die because your scummier
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I’m scummy bc of one thing okay…
11:10 a.m.
nods
11:10 a.m.
Why is everybody so creative in here SMILE
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charlie
I’m scummy bc of one thing okay…
Yah, one thing can give scum away…
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Guillo
Ok, im not liking some of your reactions to EOTH reads my friend. 1) it is really obvious he means the Nge push as you have bolded it here, how can it not be clear already? 2) Good question 3) Ok sure, i answers about that too. 4) What's wrong with gut reads? Your tone is discrediting the gut read, why? 5) I dont like it you accusing his reads of being very basic when he is willingly offering them without prodding him about it, i dont like the fact that you are defending Lily right now even though you accused Nge of defending EOTH, i dont like the fact that you are trying to classify his reads as basic and generic even though you admit he has different reads on both you and lily. 6) The read on you is indeed weak, do you scum read the weak read? Or? 7) ok.
Bro i keep getting mixed feelings on you bc this is smth i genuinely love
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Ngekop
Bro i keep getting mixed feelings on you bc this is smth i genuinely love
We gucci man, i propose we work together and kill scum
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Guillo
Yah, one thing can give scum away…
I’m flabbergasted I thought 20+ years of mafia experience would have made u solve my slot easily but ig not 😭
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charlie
I’m flabbergasted I thought 20+ years of mafia experience would have made u solve my slot easily but ig not 😭
Nice gaslight attempt
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Guillo
Callahan is reacting like a wolf whom is afraid that townies will not townread her after EOTH's reads and is trying to shut it down at all costs, i dont like her AtE either.
Is guillo actually town 😭 aaaa
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Guillo
Nice gaslight attempt
Girly where?
11:12 a.m.
How is that gaslighting?
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You are appealing to my experience to make me doubt myself in a mocking way
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Do you know what gaslighting is?
11:12 a.m.
💀
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Dude u have no idea what gaslighting is
11:13 a.m.
That is insane
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Yes i know what it is
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No u don’t LOL
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It is what you just did
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Guillo
@lilypetal up until this point ive been accepting you treating me like im your mason, cause the idea of baiting the kill for the whoever the real masons are gives me purpose, but i dont like your reaction to EOTH and how you dont see that Calla's reaction to him are overblown and aggressively OMGUSy, so im gonna state that if i was a mason, my mason would not be Lilypetal and disassociate myself from you.
Ok guillo is definitely towny after this i-
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Whatever, not extremely important and im immune to it anyway
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Oh okay ig?
11:14 a.m.
😭
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charlie
I’m flabbergasted I thought 20+ years of mafia experience would have made u solve my slot easily but ig not 😭
Bad post
11:14 a.m.
Lmao
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Anyways I can’t speak with you because you have confirmation bias
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lilypetal
Bad post
I’m sorry? 😭
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Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
It’s a point against lily’s statement
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charlie
Anyways I can’t speak with you because you have confirmation bias
No, im pretty certain you are outed scum
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Oh okay
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Bc clearly not all my messages are just obv towny as she says
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One vote on me is not going to do shit dude
11:15 a.m.
Oh no so scary
11:15 a.m.
I might be mislynched
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Ngekop
Bc clearly not all my messages are just obv towny as she says
I said all of your messages to me felt obvtown
11:15 a.m.
Tbf
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charlie
One vote on me is not going to do shit dude
That's alright, you keep talking the way you are and those will come by themselves 🙂
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I doubt they are ever the mafia team as i already stated
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Guillo
That's alright, you keep talking the way you are and those will come by themselves 🙂
Oh okay ig
11:15 a.m.
I’m scared
11:15 a.m.
I’m shaking
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charlie
I’m sorry? 😭
You're getting scumread and going wow how can such a good player be so skill issued
11:16 a.m.
That's not a defense
11:16 a.m.
Just kinda ate
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Yeah I’m sorry oops
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You are being performative and petty like outed scum
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It’s because the reason is stupid
11:16 a.m.
Like how am I suppose to defend myself when it’s like u overreacted
11:16 a.m.
And then I say no I didn’t
11:16 a.m.
And then he says no u did
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Guillo
You are being performative and petty like outed scum
Nah town can definitely act like that
11:16 a.m.
Guillo if you're town you need to step outside of yourself for a moment
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Callahan's response is bad but villagers reply poorly lol
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Where is Callahan outed? Can you ping me and show me where you began your SR
11:18 a.m.
I'll check it out later
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It was when I reacted to EOTH’s poorly made reads
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The only thing that can make me get out of it is if she claims masons with you Lily tbh because you both are pairing yourself pretty badly here and with very poor logic, specially towards EasyOnTheHill.
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lilypetal
Where is Callahan outed? Can you ping me and show me where you began your SR
No, ISO me, wtf?
11:18 a.m.
Read my content
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Isoing is awful on discord
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Well i do it, so you do it too, im not your secretary
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Alright I probably won't
11:19 a.m.
Ok
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Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
Uh… 1. You had me in the first half and lost me in the second bc shading without much commitment is like typical scum behavior. 2. Nothing to say there ig
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Apparently I'm a wolf with Callahan so it's not like working with you is likely anyway lmao
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Can people stop referring to him as other guy omfg
11:20 a.m.
His name is not even hard
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lilypetal
Apparently I'm a wolf with Callahan so it's not like working with you is likely anyway lmao
Well there is always the doubt that it is only you, it would be in your best intetest to convince me you are not with her
11:21 a.m.
Unless you are ok with me believing it
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Oh okay so I’m just
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genesischaos
i wonder if he remembers me
Ofc i do
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scum no matter what
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I'm not that scared of you and I know how you play guillo
11:21 a.m.
It's not worth my time
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Wait are you still here????
11:21 a.m.
As in in the thread
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I will solve in my own corner and win the game on my own terms
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Ok he is not sigh
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lilypetal
I'm not that scared of you and I know how you play guillo
Who said anything about being scared?
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Why is this convo so nitpicking
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Well, your post kinda does lol
11:22 a.m.
It's not in my best interest to care abt your read
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lilypetal
Well, your post kinda does lol
Yah? Maybe you are scared
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lilypetal
It's not in my best interest to care abt your read
No?
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Yeah thats how you play the game right
11:23 a.m.
I play the game by finding a towncore and getting a game winning poe which i prolly have
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Yah? This is what i think. In the unlikely event that callahan is town, you look like you have TMI that she is
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Oh yeah I have tmi for being right when you're not
11:24 a.m.
Spoooooky
11:24 a.m.
Original read
11:24 a.m.
Anyway, I'll reply to your pings later when I'm on my computer
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There is no way you read her reaction to Easy and say she is town when three of us, no 4 of us thought she was scummy for it
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Guillo
Im at a point where im willing to execute you and lily back to back just to make sure i didnt catch you both slipping, which would be a story for the ages because i've never seen two scum outing themselves for one single guy coming out of nowhere with actual reads
Uh
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And you have voted scum me for much much less too Lily
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Guillo
There is no way you read her reaction to Easy and say she is town when three of us, no 4 of us thought she was scummy for it
Why?
11:25 a.m.
lol
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I reaaaaaaaaaally doubt they are both mafs reacting that way to eoth lol
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Ngekop
I reaaaaaaaaaally doubt they are both mafs reacting that way to eoth lol
I doubt it but can you imagine
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lilypetal
lol
What?
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Why am I like laughing rn
11:26 a.m.
I love this game
11:26 a.m.
You guys are actually fun
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charlie
Why am I like laughing rn
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Guillo
Click to see attachment 🖼️
LMFAO
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Like why is that the case
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That is you
11:27 a.m.
Calla
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Nah im smiling rn I swear
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Like why is my reaction not being consensus bad
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I’m like :)
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lilypetal
Like why is my reaction not being consensus bad
What you mean?
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Guillo
There is no way you read her reaction to Easy and say she is town when three of us, no 4 of us thought she was scummy for it
You're saying that because my read is anti consensus I'm a wolf tmi'ing/her partner, no?
11:28 a.m.
Which is..a very level 0 take for you
11:28 a.m.
And I want you to explain why
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lilypetal
I said all of your messages to me felt obvtown
Fair but point kinda still stands bc most of my content before that was still read by guillo by then
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Ngekop
Fair but point kinda still stands bc most of my content before that was still read by guillo by then
Look, atp you're either a wolf faking immense skill issue or you're just like one of those villagers who will always be paranoid and I can never really work with.
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The one thing is I’m so confused on the fact me and Lily are paired because we both didn’t agree with EOTH’s reads? How does that make us automatically paired in your eyes?
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Find me as town or not idc
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charlie
It’s because the reason is stupid
Isnt this what you pointed out scum gets annoyed mostly at
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Ngekop
Isnt this what you pointed out scum gets annoyed mostly at
This is different and I’m a hypocrite
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charlie
And then he says no u did
Bc like 3 people have voiced out they perceived it that way
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lilypetal
You're saying that because my read is anti consensus I'm a wolf tmi'ing/her partner, no?
Yah im saying the read is so anti consensus to epic proportions that if she is town, then you are scum or both are Mason and you are trying to save her ass without claiming, that is the while thought.
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Ngekop
Bc like 3 people have voiced out they perceived it that way
I mean are u guys voting me though?
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Guillo
Yah im saying the read is so anti consensus to epic proportions that if she is town, then you are scum or both are Mason and you are trying to save her ass without claiming, that is the while thought.
This seems like a noob read
11:30 a.m.
Are you a noob?
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If my overall gameplay is town and I made one bad move ( ig? ) doesn’t mean I’m scum
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Why can't I simply read her posts as towny as town regardless of her alignment.
11:30 a.m.
Why can't I be "anti-consensus"
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lilypetal
This seems like a noob read
Dont insult me, i e caught experienced wolves doing noobie plays.
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Also like reads like that are inherently anti town
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If you are gonna get in the business of insults then lets not talk anymore
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And you know it
11:31 a.m.
I mean, I just said your read is like a new player's read because it lacks nuance and you're not a new player so (edited)
11:32 a.m.
What's up with that
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Right now the best you can do is find me scum and give a fully detailed readlist
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You seem kind of agenda'd
11:32 a.m.
I have two scumreads
11:32 a.m.
And I can write one up in a bit
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Ok, im going to the gum, i expect to see it when im back
11:33 a.m.
Gym
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lilypetal
Look, atp you're either a wolf faking immense skill issue or you're just like one of those villagers who will always be paranoid and I can never really work with.
Lol?
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Guillo
Yah im saying the read is so anti consensus to epic proportions that if she is town, then you are scum or both are Mason and you are trying to save her ass without claiming, that is the while thought.
Really? That extreme?
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lilypetal
I mean, I just said your read is like a new player's read because it lacks nuance and you're not a new player so (edited)
You cant edit posts btw
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quirky This game is fun and this moment is fun but I don’t know what else to say, like I know it’s the big event right now so I have to wait on everybody’s comments but like yeah
11:36 a.m.
I HC town.
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Finally
11:37 a.m.
Finished catching up
11:37 a.m.
This game just got more fun ngl
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Okay wow take my words ig
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People def started getting out of their comfort zone
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charlie
Okay wow take my words ig
You did it first
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Anyways
11:37 a.m.
Uh
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I been looking at other game we are wayyy more ahead
11:37 a.m.
Idk
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Yeahhhhh lol
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Ngekop
You cant edit posts btw
mb just corrected grammar
11:38 a.m.
wont again
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Yeah that’s fair
11:38 a.m.
Just letting you know
11:38 a.m.
Anyways idk what to make of all of this yet
11:39 a.m.
I feel like u been sitting on the fence for awhile
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Also @lilypetal even if i dont tr you i can still work with you?
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charlie
I feel like u been sitting on the fence for awhile
Bc i am
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sort of?
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GULLIO DIDNT WANT TO WORK WITH ME??
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if you fully want to work with me then your read on me cant be like that tho
11:39 a.m.
its a personal thing
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Like work with me so u can figure out I’m town like 💀
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Callahan is a hard read
11:39 a.m.
Ngl
11:39 a.m.
Hard town thanks
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I have been right on her only like 50% of the time
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Which is low af
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I thought it would be higher
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Ngekop
I have been right on her only like 50% of the time
(If you dont count times i tmi’d her as scum ofc)
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Do you believe I am in my scum game rn nge
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Def in scum range
11:40 a.m.
You are able to be really tonally towny as scum many times
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Have you ever seen me react like that when I’m scum read when I was scum
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I also think your reaction to eoth wasnt great but given there is kinda some personal stuff there i dont know much about idk if i can push it that much
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charlie
Have you ever seen me react like that when I’m scum read when I was scum
Uh
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Oh yeah I hate eoth deadass
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I mean kinda with mel?
11:41 a.m.
I did?
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Yeah bc you thought it was just for meta
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I thought it was Lune who did that and I laughed at them
11:42 a.m.
I was this is so funny
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And that annoyed you
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Maybe idk
11:42 a.m.
I don’t really remember
11:42 a.m.
But I wouldn’t play this sloppy as scum, I know that
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The thing is as you said
11:43 a.m.
It was only ONE moment
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Where you overreacted
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Oh I overreacted to u once
11:43 a.m.
As town
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And I raged sub
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Haha
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😭
11:44 a.m.
Haha…
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Yeah that was uncalled for ngl
11:44 a.m.
But ig there was more stuff in there
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SMILE I had to leave before I was going to get toxic
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Behind that
11:44 a.m.
I think sam said smth like
11:45 a.m.
“The towniest thing calla has done this game is replacing out”
11:45 a.m.
Why is that so sad
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Towniest thing callahan did this game was replacing out
11:45 a.m.
Wow
11:45 a.m.
My memory is
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Insane
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Sam is my biggest op tf
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Anyways
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Anyways PLS PLS PLS Marco read me rather then mirco read me 😍❤️
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Sam/abi/i agreed there
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charlie
Anyways PLS PLS PLS Marco read me rather then mirco read me 😍❤️
Im not microreading you
11:46 a.m.
I cant do the other thing tho
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Ik but I’m announcing that to everybody
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Bc all the times i’ve played with you
11:46 a.m.
You’ve been overall towny
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Imo
11:47 a.m.
Except that game where you were town and subbed out
11:47 a.m.
Sticker
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Have I been super townie this game, I feel really good idk how to describe it, like usually when I’m town I’m like omfg im so scummy which I was in the beginning feeling like but now I just feel so town
11:47 a.m.
Like I’m just I’m so obviously town which is like u can say I’m not but
11:47 a.m.
I can’t change that opinion but like I feel like I’m in my groove
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If you dont like
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Anyways, I don’t think I need to keep defending myself but from what I’m seeing people are saying it’s a overreaction, I can’t connivence people otherwise so, I just gotta show them in other ways I’m town ig, which is progressing this game 🙄 #LAMST
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Take that overreaction into account
11:49 a.m.
You def have been tonally towny
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Yeah that’s why I want people to Marco read me because I don’t believe it was a overreaction but if that’s the only thing pointing to the fact I’m scum and rest of my gameplay is town then IM TOWN
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You def have been playing to be tr’d if you’re scum
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Oh yeah
11:50 a.m.
I would be hunting for masons tho as scum rn
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Yes but
11:50 a.m.
In scum chat
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Not in here
11:51 a.m.
What do u mean
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You’d do the mason hunting in scum chat?
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Yes but no
11:51 a.m.
I would be setting up ppl and seeing their reactions
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Anyways idt you and lily are a scum pair ever so i disagree with that take from guillo
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Lightly pushing ppl and seeing how ppl react to that push
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However his progression on me seems overall genuine and idt his “mindmelding” with me was forced so i also tl that from him
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No I town lean him still
11:52 a.m.
100%
11:52 a.m.
My reads are still the same
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charlie
Lightly pushing ppl and seeing how ppl react to that push
You did that with abyss
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charlie
No I town lean him still
I know
11:53 a.m.
Which is lowkey a concern
11:53 a.m.
Bc you are wary of me but
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Ngekop
You did that with abyss
I wasn’t lightly pushing him I don’t think so
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You had him as top town
11:53 a.m.
In the game he was scum
11:53 a.m.
don’t even
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Omfg
11:53 a.m.
I’m so embarrassed
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Do u want to see my
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Early thoughts
11:53 a.m.
Of gullio and Lily
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You werent the only one
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charlie
Of gullio and Lily
Lily played that game? What
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No she didnt
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No no I’m talking about this game
11:54 a.m.
In the beginning
11:54 a.m.
What about those
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Nge and I are known to never actually get along as town, and we seem to be getting along right now, which is causing me to be wary... Gullio and Lily seem to have a history, and they both attacked me for my LAMST post, which is okay, right? But, it felt very nitpicking in my opinion, and while Lily dismissed Nge's meta claim on me, but then uses her own meta on Gullio, but doesn't have any real meta on Gullio anyways? Ane seems to be frozen, like Nge said. Gullio seems to be asking random questions that lead nowhere and clog up the thread, but this is not how he plays as scum, but using Lily's claim that Gullio opens wolfs as wolf contracts my meta on him as a deep wolf? Also on the fact Lily went on defense for Gullio right away when I spoke about how I would have town lean him if he was a new player who claimed mafia ( using Sunny as an example ), which is reasonable? 💀 I also would assume she would agree with me even though we had different ways of viewing Gullio we both came to the same conclusion he could be scum? As she said he could be scum because of that, while I said I wouldn't town lean him for that?
11:57 a.m.
Like
11:57 a.m.
The thing is me and Lily can never be paired bc like
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charlie
Nge and I are known to never actually get along as town, and we seem to be getting along right now, which is causing me to be wary... Gullio and Lily seem to have a history, and they both attacked me for my LAMST post, which is okay, right? But, it felt very nitpicking in my opinion, and while Lily dismissed Nge's meta claim on me, but then uses her own meta on Gullio, but doesn't have any real meta on Gullio anyways? Ane seems to be frozen, like Nge said. Gullio seems to be asking random questions that lead nowhere and clog up the thread, but this is not how he plays as scum, but using Lily's claim that Gullio opens wolfs as wolf contracts my meta on him as a deep wolf? Also on the fact Lily went on defense for Gullio right away when I spoke about how I would have town lean him if he was a new player who claimed mafia ( using Sunny as an example ), which is reasonable? 💀 I also would assume she would agree with me even though we had different ways of viewing Gullio we both came to the same conclusion he could be scum? As she said he could be scum because of that, while I said I wouldn't town lean him for that?
Are we getting along?
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What I have in my notes
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Oh wait your early thoughts
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Is the fact she didn’t agree with me and got Sus of me
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Ngekop
Oh wait your early thoughts
Yeah lol
11:59 a.m.
Like I just the early interactions with me and Lily don’t make sense to why we are paired like I have it my notes 💀
11:59 a.m.
And I literally asked serveal times how we are paired and Guillo has failed to explain
11:59 a.m.
And then EOTH paired us which is like okay
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What you have about lily there is towny
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If he was like Lily was picketing
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Although maybe a bit early for it to be that relevant
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I have her as null still
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@genesischaos come baaaaaaack
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Obviously my opinions shifted as the game went on but like
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charlie
And then EOTH paired us which is like okay
I strongly disagree with this
12:00 p.m.
Those were individual reads
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I was scum bc of Lily
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Which dont take partner interactions inti account
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charlie
I was scum bc of Lily
To eoth? No
12:01 p.m.
No
12:01 p.m.
He said you felt forced
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Callahan is scum cause she is SUS, but actually it just feels like shes forcing herself to make posts rather than it being genuine + the lily connection i stated above
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And like pretending to be progressing the gamestate and be good towny when not actually doing much in that regard
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charlie
Callahan is scum cause she is SUS, but actually it just feels like shes forcing herself to make posts rather than it being genuine + the lily connection i stated above
Where was this
12:02 p.m.
Tf
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His whole read list?
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Ngekop
And like pretending to be progressing the gamestate and be good towny when not actually doing much in that regard
I feel like I been eating up this game so
12:03 p.m.
How did i miss that part
12:03 p.m.
That’s funny
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Yeah so he’s connected me with Lily
12:03 p.m.
Which doesn’t make sense to me
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Anyways i still disagree with the take but dont think it’s like
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lilypetal
I mean, I just said your read is like a new player's read because it lacks nuance and you're not a new player so (edited)
I decided not to go to the gym, i have a sore throat, i dint want to infect everyone there.

It is not a noob read at all.

Let’s pretend that we all know Callahan is town: EasyOnTheHill, Ngekop, Sunny and myself suspected Callahan for her reaction to EOTH reads, even if in this group the two scums are involved, there are still two towns that had a genuine reaction to Callahan, if we are gonna use the logic that no two-scums are gonna publicly gang up on townie, then there can only be a max if one scum in that 4-people group which would make it even more a genuine read and it is not even a consensus read, it is a consensus reaction to her reaction lol. So i know im not wrong to feel the way i gelt about Callahan and three other people validate it, so i have the authority to say that someone townreading her reaction is scum with TMI that Callahan is town. And yes, i have an agenda, i have the agenda of wiping the floor with wolves’s fur and get a perfect victory, maybe advance to finals and who knows! I might even with the loot prize!
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That AI
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So I’m town?
12:04 p.m.
Oh
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Wait
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We are pretending
12:04 p.m.
Damn I was like ayy he finally town reads me
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Guillo
I decided not to go to the gym, i have a sore throat, i dint want to infect everyone there.

It is not a noob read at all.

Let’s pretend that we all know Callahan is town: EasyOnTheHill, Ngekop, Sunny and myself suspected Callahan for her reaction to EOTH reads, even if in this group the two scums are involved, there are still two towns that had a genuine reaction to Callahan, if we are gonna use the logic that no two-scums are gonna publicly gang up on townie, then there can only be a max if one scum in that 4-people group which would make it even more a genuine read and it is not even a consensus read, it is a consensus reaction to her reaction lol. So i know im not wrong to feel the way i gelt about Callahan and three other people validate it, so i have the authority to say that someone townreading her reaction is scum with TMI that Callahan is town. And yes, i have an agenda, i have the agenda of wiping the floor with wolves’s fur and get a perfect victory, maybe advance to finals and who knows! I might even with the loot prize!
yea okay
12:05 p.m.
other ppl agree with me therefore im right is not a good read
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charlie
Oh yeah I hate eoth deadass
I hate this, please leave personal out of here
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Guillo
I hate this, please leave personal out of here
IM JOKING IM JOKING
12:06 p.m.
I WOULD NEVER HATE EOTH
12:06 p.m.
😭
12:06 p.m.
PLS PLS DO NOT THINK THAT
12:07 p.m.
I love eoth
12:07 p.m.
10/10 guy
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lilypetal
other ppl agree with me therefore im right is not a good read
Well im not unvoting in fact im parking here
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Oh okay
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Guillo
Well im not unvoting in fact im parking here
spooky
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charlie
Anyways, I don’t think I need to keep defending myself but from what I’m seeing people are saying it’s a overreaction, I can’t connivence people otherwise so, I just gotta show them in other ways I’m town ig, which is progressing this game 🙄 #LAMST
That is a great idea
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Guillo
That is a great idea
Thank u nods
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charlie
I would be hunting for masons tho as scum rn
I would be distancing from my masons if i was town mason
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Guillo
I would be distancing from my masons if i was town mason
Oh didn’t u
12:10 p.m.
Wait I’m confused
12:10 p.m.
Okay hmm
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If calla’s scum i admire the effort she is putting in
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Thank u ☺
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charlie
Like I just the early interactions with me and Lily don’t make sense to why we are paired like I have it my notes 💀
Ok sure you both are not paired.
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Okay yeah thank u
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Thanking me for smth i said with “if calla’s scum”
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I’m open wolfing now
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Changing tatics
12:12 p.m.
Y’all think I can only play deep wolf, I can open wolf
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Why do you wanna open wolf?
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You changing tactics for lols
12:13 p.m.
Is also a scumtell from you
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I mean I’m joking obviously
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Of course
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So i hope it isnt serious
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Oh shot I'm putting the odds against me
12:13 p.m.
Shit
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And you dont actually do it
12:13 p.m.
Like… you are overdoing it Calla
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Oh okay
12:14 p.m.
I can't amuse myself a little
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@EasyOnTheHills hi
12:14 p.m.
Wya
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He's probs working
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Lily/Calla is a difference check or im bad at mafia
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He's a chef
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Guillo
Lily/Calla is a difference check or im bad at mafia
Why not both clueless
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charlie
He's a chef
Stressful
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Guillo
Lily/Calla is a difference check or im bad at mafia
Did u change ur opinion bc I told u we weren't or was there something else?
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Ngekop
Why not both clueless
Because they worked their ass off to let us know they are not aligned, no scum ever address that, they just ho away, come back later and derail the game thread another way.
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Is it bad i say out loud i think calla’s role always starts with an M?
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Guillo
Because they worked their ass off to let us know they are not aligned, no scum ever address that, they just ho away, come back later and derail the game thread another way.
I was trolling and saying why cant they both be a diff check and you bad at mafia
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Ngekop
I was trolling and saying why cant they both be a diff check and you bad at mafia
In case you were not
12:17 p.m.
Im not good at catching humor over text
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Slay its okay
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Hence why my style is serious and competitive
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Reminds me of someone
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@Anemoia/Abyss whenever you can pop in you missed a lot
12:18 p.m.
pingu
12:18 p.m.
K there is not much to do rn with only you two here
12:18 p.m.
Ping me if someone else comes in ig
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@genesischaos have you caught up yet? @ziel.16 why are you frozen?
12:19 p.m.
Oh
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Anyways lets change the topic : Vote Count Follower : Ngekop -Voted Gullio because RVS. -Voted Ane because he froze. Sunny Chaos Ziel Lily -Voted Ane because he's ungeuine -Voted EOTH, bad reads Ane -Voted Lily for no reason? Guillo -Voted me because of LAMST. -Voted Nge thinks he's putting on a show. -Voted me bc he thinks I'm confirmed scum? EOTH Do we think all these votes were reasonable?
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Ziel cant be pinged
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Guillo
@genesischaos have you caught up yet? @ziel.16 why are you frozen?
@Ziel :D
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There you go
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charlie
Anyways lets change the topic : Vote Count Follower : Ngekop -Voted Gullio because RVS. -Voted Ane because he froze. Sunny Chaos Ziel Lily -Voted Ane because he's ungeuine -Voted EOTH, bad reads Ane -Voted Lily for no reason? Guillo -Voted me because of LAMST. -Voted Nge thinks he's putting on a show. -Voted me bc he thinks I'm confirmed scum? EOTH Do we think all these votes were reasonable?
That is an oversimplification
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Well ues
12:20 p.m.
I'm not going to
12:20 p.m.
Write a whole essay
12:20 p.m.
But it's the basics
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The thing with guillo is
12:20 p.m.
We clearly think in different ways
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I have a funny thought
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Ngekop
We clearly think in different ways
How so?
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charlie
Anyways lets change the topic : Vote Count Follower : Ngekop -Voted Gullio because RVS. -Voted Ane because he froze. Sunny Chaos Ziel Lily -Voted Ane because he's ungeuine -Voted EOTH, bad reads Ane -Voted Lily for no reason? Guillo -Voted me because of LAMST. -Voted Nge thinks he's putting on a show. -Voted me bc he thinks I'm confirmed scum? EOTH Do we think all these votes were reasonable?
You missed to include yourself
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Oh bc this is in my confessional
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Ngekop
You missed to include yourself
This is dumb
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So like
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Funnily enough both of your votes have been following
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Guillo
This is dumb
Im saying
12:22 p.m.
Her logs are probs among the most relevant in that sense
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Guillo
How so?
The way we interpret things is different
12:22 p.m.
The way we approach them
12:23 p.m.
As in
12:23 p.m.
General stuff
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Well mafia is a perspective game nods that's why I hate when ppl r like u r wrong like 😍
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charlie
Well mafia is a perspective game nods that's why I hate when ppl r like u r wrong like 😍
Wrong
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I don’t think it’s wrong on my end
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Ngekop
The way we interpret things is different
Sometimes i do not say what im really interpreting.
12:23 p.m.
I work… different
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Ngekop
Wrong
Wrong
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Guillo
Sometimes i do not say what im really interpreting.
I know
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Sometimes im pocketing my scum read, make them think they have me pocketed and then i turn on them for example
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Interesting
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 12:25 p.m.
I find it very funny that my apparently terrible reads warranted two players to be very defensive and sparked a 10 hour long discussion...
12:25 p.m.
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EasyOnTheHills
I find it very funny that my apparently terrible reads warranted two players to be very defensive and sparked a 10 hour long discussion...
well I can’t escape it
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Sometimes i contradict myself on purpose to see who catches it and how they react
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Guillo
Sometimes i contradict myself on purpose to see who catches it and how they react
Sane but not as often
12:26 p.m.
Same*
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Oh u guys overplay
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I mean if im doing it often some of those contradictions are genuine lol
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orange juice or apple juice
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Apple juice I hate oj
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Guillo
I mean if im doing it often some of those contradictions are genuine lol
I do it like once per 3 games or smth lol
12:27 p.m.
So uh
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charlie
Apple juice I hate oj
scum reading you for this
12:27 p.m.
😔
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Aren’t u already 😭
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nuh uh scum lean totally different
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I really think u should start voting Sunny
12:28 p.m.
Like vote me idc but like u need to learn to start voting ppl
12:28 p.m.
Don’t be like nervey about voting ppl which I think u r rn
12:29 p.m.
Oh okay 😭
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Tough game
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Not really make a town core and then POE out scum
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 12:31 p.m.
Anyways I am more and more convinced it is Callahan + Lily as this goes on, their reactions to my "bad reads" are not townie, they are incredibly defensive, which makes no sense considering I hardly pushed the reads nor did I even push for a vote on either of them. Really starting to think I found the scumteam and they just started freaking out cause they got caught early on. Like you can't say my reads are bad, but then say you have to worry because I made them, if they were really that bad they would hold no merit and the rest of town would move on, maybe perhaps they weren't bad in the first place and that is why you want to try so hard to discredit them... Again I haven't even pushed Callahan or Lily to be voted, all I did was simply post my current thoughts on the game so far at that point, and this has turned into them devolving into a OMGUS onto me somehow
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Hope we win it tho
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charlie
Click to see attachment 🖼️
im sorry 😞
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charlie
Not really make a town core and then POE out scum
Hard in this game that’s the thing
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guillo why did you switch to lily 😒
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EasyOnTheHills
Anyways I am more and more convinced it is Callahan + Lily as this goes on, their reactions to my "bad reads" are not townie, they are incredibly defensive, which makes no sense considering I hardly pushed the reads nor did I even push for a vote on either of them. Really starting to think I found the scumteam and they just started freaking out cause they got caught early on. Like you can't say my reads are bad, but then say you have to worry because I made them, if they were really that bad they would hold no merit and the rest of town would move on, maybe perhaps they weren't bad in the first place and that is why you want to try so hard to discredit them... Again I haven't even pushed Callahan or Lily to be voted, all I did was simply post my current thoughts on the game so far at that point, and this has turned into them devolving into a OMGUS onto me somehow
Feel bad if you're town cuz posts like this are textbook scum
12:32 p.m.
sad
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EasyOnTheHills
Anyways I am more and more convinced it is Callahan + Lily as this goes on, their reactions to my "bad reads" are not townie, they are incredibly defensive, which makes no sense considering I hardly pushed the reads nor did I even push for a vote on either of them. Really starting to think I found the scumteam and they just started freaking out cause they got caught early on. Like you can't say my reads are bad, but then say you have to worry because I made them, if they were really that bad they would hold no merit and the rest of town would move on, maybe perhaps they weren't bad in the first place and that is why you want to try so hard to discredit them... Again I haven't even pushed Callahan or Lily to be voted, all I did was simply post my current thoughts on the game so far at that point, and this has turned into them devolving into a OMGUS onto me somehow
No offense but no team would both freak out towards being sr’d by someone with 5 posts
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dont think ill ever get there
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EasyOnTheHills
Anyways I am more and more convinced it is Callahan + Lily as this goes on, their reactions to my "bad reads" are not townie, they are incredibly defensive, which makes no sense considering I hardly pushed the reads nor did I even push for a vote on either of them. Really starting to think I found the scumteam and they just started freaking out cause they got caught early on. Like you can't say my reads are bad, but then say you have to worry because I made them, if they were really that bad they would hold no merit and the rest of town would move on, maybe perhaps they weren't bad in the first place and that is why you want to try so hard to discredit them... Again I haven't even pushed Callahan or Lily to be voted, all I did was simply post my current thoughts on the game so far at that point, and this has turned into them devolving into a OMGUS onto me somehow
I’m talking about them bc ppl keep talking about it, I can’t move on when I’m the main subject
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SUNNY!!
guillo why did you switch to lily 😒
Have you read? My content?
12:33 p.m.
didn't mean caps
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SUNNY!!
NO
Then?
12:33 p.m.
What are you waiting for?
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 12:33 p.m.
I also find a lot of irony in that last night Lily said I should have pinged her to question her about things yet she always seems to be around when she gets brought up anyway...
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Ngekop
No offense but no team would both freak out towards being sr’d by someone with 5 posts
yeah lol
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where is it :(
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Search me
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EasyOnTheHills
I also find a lot of irony in that last night Lily said I should have pinged her to question her about things yet she always seems to be around when she gets brought up anyway...
i just checked the discord and saw your post
12:34 p.m.
weird fucking post right here
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 12:34 p.m.
Convenient timing for like the 4th time now I see...
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do u think im here 24/7
12:34 p.m.
and if so why that's weird
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If he is not gonna answer i have an hypothesis
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Im confused Sunny
12:35 p.m.
Why do you town lean me again?
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U have to answer gullio
12:36 p.m.
U can’t avoid that 😭
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You made a readlist townleaning me based on my reaction to both lily and calla
12:37 p.m.
And now you are asking me why im voting her?????
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I love mafia
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I keep switching up on you, I don't understand what you're doing sometimes 😭 i asked you because it just seemed weird that you voted her right after i did, even after having posted that a bit before? am i just missing something or
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EasyOnTheHills
Convenient timing for like the 4th time now I see...
Do you think she is lurking/watching the thread?
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Oh if you are worried that im sheeping you then dont, im not
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:40 p.m.
I'm back
12:40 p.m.
After a mimimi
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Hi back
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:40 p.m.
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Anemoia/Abyss
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Catch up pls
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:41 p.m.
I'll try
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A good time to start would be uh
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Anemoia/Abyss
I'll try
Basically I was throwing hands and there was a rap battle
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When eoth gave his readlist
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Okay yeah I swear to god if u
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:41 p.m.
A... Rap battle?
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Littlerally reply to me with questions
12:41 p.m.
Im going to be a little mad
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EasyOnTheHills
current reads so far: Town: Ngekop, Guillo, Anemoia Leans town: Sunny Neutral: Ziel, genisischaos Potential scum: callahan, lilypetal
@Anemoia/Abyss here imo
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charlie
Do you think she is lurking/watching the thread?
EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 12:41 p.m.
Yes
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Ngekop
@Anemoia/Abyss here imo
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:42 p.m.
Thank you!
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EasyOnTheHills
Yes
Are you lurking/watching the thread
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charlie
Im going to be a little mad
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:42 p.m.
Dw I won't
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charlie
Are you lurking/watching the thread
EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 12:42 p.m.
I was last night
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Anemoia/Abyss
Dw I won't
Okay got u bc I explained myself a lot so nods
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:42 p.m.
I was just confused on how a rap battle would happen
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EasyOnTheHills
I was last night
If I was scum what do u think my intentions are right now?
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Anemoia/Abyss
I was just confused on how a rap battle would happen
We should do a rap battle
12:43 p.m.
I have done it before in a mafia game
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:43 p.m.
Lemme catch up on my other pings on other servers first tho
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epic rap battles of history
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Dude I was crazy 10/10
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charlie
We should do a rap battle
Love watching them
12:43 p.m.
Spanish >>>>>>> english tho
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Ngekop
Spanish >>>>>>> english tho
nods
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charlie
If I was scum what do u think my intentions are right now?
EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 12:44 p.m.
Idk you tell me...
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English rap > spanish rap but spanish rap battles >>> english rap battles
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How about you take the rap battle elsewhere
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I was about to post
12:50 p.m.
A ss of my rap but okay
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We dont need the fluff
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EasyOnTheHills
Idk you tell me...
So you as someone who knows me as a player don’t know what I would be trying to do right now as scum?
12:51 p.m.
"We don't need the fluff"
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Yes, we dont
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 12:52 p.m.
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pls stop running away eoth 😭
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 12:52 p.m.
Ok now I'll backread
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 12:53 p.m.
12:53 p.m.
me running away
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You can answer my questions
12:53 p.m.
Like I ask a lot and then u only answer certain ones
12:53 p.m.
Which makes me feel like ur avoiding me or u actually don’t believe ur reads
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I no longer hard townread Sunny
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And it’s annoying
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crazyyy how come?
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Sunny is always a town lean
12:54 p.m.
Never a town read
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charlie
So you as someone who knows me as a player don’t know what I would be trying to do right now as scum?
EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 12:55 p.m.
this is just wifom, anything i say you will just say the opposite and use it as a way to continue to discredit me
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EasyOnTheHills
this is just wifom, anything i say you will just say the opposite and use it as a way to continue to discredit me
No?
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SUNNY!!
crazyyy how come?
Im so glad you asked. It’s the fact that you have lily and calla as scum leans but question me for voting Lily when you didnt question me about Calla, even though you had townleaned me for scum reading those exact two. I have a spicy thought. What if you and lily are scum together and Calla is the poor OMGUSY townie trapped in tour web of lies and deceit and you are bussing lily now?
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I’m trying to speak with you because I can’t read u if I don’t interact with you, and I don’t wanna vote u out if you are actually town 💀 Like do I think ur reads are poor 100% but if ur town then ur town and I can’t read and figure it out if u don’t interact with me
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Guillo
Im so glad you asked. It’s the fact that you have lily and calla as scum leans but question me for voting Lily when you didnt question me about Calla, even though you had townleaned me for scum reading those exact two. I have a spicy thought. What if you and lily are scum together and Calla is the poor OMGUSY townie trapped in tour web of lies and deceit and you are bussing lily now?
what
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SUNNY!!
what
Should i rewrite it?
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Why do u think I ask people a lot of questions it’s literally basically I’m trying to read them, and when u don’t interact with me then I can’t read u properly
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i already told you why i asked you why you voted lily 😞
12:58 p.m.
i just found it weird how you voted straight after me, even after having read them before me
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So your immediate thought was that i was pocketing you?
1:00 p.m.
Sunny, real time please
1:00 p.m.
Dont think
1:01 p.m.
Im starting to see Nge’s suspicion of being coached
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maybe i thought calla was doing that to me too 😞
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Then why vote lily instead of calla, why not vote calla with me back then?
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I rather u guys not but
1:02 p.m.
SMILE
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ududhudehuehuryrheuehehe7yee7ehd7
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I’m always fighting for my life d1 😠
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my heart dosa this mean
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Guillo
Then why vote lily instead of calla, why not vote calla with me back then?
You seem to need a lot of time for this Suspicious
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i don't like that emoji please never send that again 😞 i just trust lily less, felt like calla defended better also i hardly trust you more than calla so im not voting w/ you 😒
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charlie
Why do u think I ask people a lot of questions it’s literally basically I’m trying to read them, and when u don’t interact with me then I can’t read u properly
Or bc you want to pretend that :0
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Ngekop
Or bc you want to pretend that :0
No like that’s actually how I figure out scum
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But you town leaned me over both lily and calla
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Why do u think I ask a ton of questions
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Weeeeeeird
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That don’t really seem to have meaning behind it, because I ignore a players actions and just focus on their interactions with me
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Guillo
Weeeeeeird
nuh uh 🙄
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charlie
No like that’s actually how I figure out scum
Oh i know
1:09 p.m.
But would also be what you’d do as maf if you are aiming to get tr’d
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Town read me rn
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Sunny is giving me scummy vibes
1:10 p.m.
Also Callahan trended up
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i don't have to respond to you straight away Sadbaby
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Just kidding Sunny! It’s not what my voices in my head really said
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I’m cycling with the thoughts and doubt that EOTH could be town who just had terrible reads in my opinion and now doesn’t know what to do but to push because he’s like yolo why not, I got a reaction, but also he could be scum who was like man everybody town reads these ppl lemme just town read them as well but let me put some different reads town just to start something happening, because he has me and Lily connected but it doesn’t make sense? To me personally. So I CANT FIGURE IT OUT IF HE DOESNT CHITCHAT WITH ME
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Guillo
Just kidding Sunny! It’s not what my voices in my head really said
sus
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charlie
I’m cycling with the thoughts and doubt that EOTH could be town who just had terrible reads in my opinion and now doesn’t know what to do but to push because he’s like yolo why not, I got a reaction, but also he could be scum who was like man everybody town reads these ppl lemme just town read them as well but let me put some different reads town just to start something happening, because he has me and Lily connected but it doesn’t make sense? To me personally. So I CANT FIGURE IT OUT IF HE DOESNT CHITCHAT WITH ME
Again
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What are you gonna do about it?
1:13 p.m.
Sunny
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Not everyone tr’d the people he tr’d
1:13 p.m.
I thought i made that clear before
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Well they r like the common town reads
1:13 p.m.
Tf
1:13 p.m.
You and lily sr abyss
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Sunny + Gullio is the most common town read
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I was not tr’d by anyone
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Idk who is not town reading them
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charlie
Sunny + Gullio is the most common town read
I didnt tr guillo
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Guillo
Sunny
i dunnooooooo grin
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Back then
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I said common
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Neither did abyss
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Oh well
1:14 p.m.
Maybe I remembering it wrong
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Common = you and lily got iy
1:14 p.m.
it*
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SUNNY!!
i dunnooooooo grin
Why are you trying to make it look like we are partners distancing
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Nvm then but still
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okay Sunny I didn’t realize u have a new bestie
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no i swear pinkcrying
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Everything we been through smh…
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whycry it's a misunderstanding
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Sunny if I get voted out today, u must follow my reads, do u promise
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maybe sus
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Hey my reads be crazy sometimes
1:22 p.m.
Okay I’m out I feel like I spent WAYYYYY to much time on this game and it’s literally so gross and disgusting so I’m going to experience the real world
1:23 p.m.
But also I wanna apologize for something haha
1:24 p.m.
Yesterday i took my adhd medication and it’s was my second time playing mafia on medication and I literally thought I was on a whole different playing field so I’m humbled now my bad LOL SMILE britneyjean quirky emoji_173
1:24 p.m.
That’s why I kept saying I was thinking differently and shit like I really thought I was a master genius
1:24 p.m.
We don’t talk about that anymore…
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OH Hshhs HOPE YOU'RE DOING BETTER NOW 😭
1:25 p.m.
I was eating it up tho
1:25 p.m.
I was crazy
1:26 p.m.
I’m off the meds now 😍
1:26 p.m.
I deadass thought I was a whole another playing field for some reason
1:27 p.m.
I think I even told nge he was jealous of me which I apologize LOL
1:28 p.m.
I've arrived
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The one thing I’m kind of weirded out rn
1:28 p.m.
Hi ziel
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I'm sorry I don't have my phone
1:28 p.m.
And I'm borrowing a laptop right nowww
1:28 p.m.
Wahhhhhhhh
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If I expect more votes on me because like why wouldn’t mafia want a free mislynch
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Ziel :D
Wahhhhhhhh
Have u read anything so far
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Not yet
1:29 p.m.
I just arrived
1:29 p.m.
I will though
1:29 p.m.
I really will
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You have a lot to read nods
1:29 p.m.
Come back with a read list + your thoughts
1:30 p.m.
Okay I’m official gone I will not speak in this chat until like maybe tomorrow bc like I feel yucky sorry
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charlie
You have a lot to read nods
Alreadyy???/
1:31 p.m.
TTOTT
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YEAH YEAH
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 1:38 p.m.
Back to this game again
1:39 p.m.
Imma read what I didn't skim through
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Guillo
What questionable posts does Anemoia have? (He is not a newbie) Not wrong on Lily fading away after her entrance but she fades away as both town and scum, but townie thought if you havent met lily before. What does her progression on Callahan have anything to do with Anemoia though? Please can you point out the posts you felt were forced from Callahan?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 1:53 p.m.
Btw I am more of a newbie than you think) (less than 10 games)
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EasyOnTheHills
me omw to find the mafia
This was kinda funny because my internet is lagging omieee ;-; The mafia will be found out!!! >:D
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Guillo
You are sus to me now, do you care? And you clearly care about EOTH's read on you, you are freaking out all over the place for it. @lilypetal why are you not seeing this?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 1:57 p.m.
Agreed tbh, it's obvious
1:57 p.m.
Oops, I pinged
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Guillo
Anyways, hi guys, im Mafia
That's impossible, because I don't see you in mafia-chat
1:58 p.m.
:>
1:58 p.m.
WAHAHAHHAHAHAAHA
1:58 p.m.
This is fun
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SUNNY!!
everyone except me
👀
1:59 p.m.
This being my first tournament... >:D
1:59 p.m.
I'm ready to lose
1:59 p.m.
Pfft--
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Ngekop
N1 kills advance all the time
KILL ME
2:01 p.m.
:O
2:02 p.m.
Sorry for the pings everyone T^T don't mind me commenting here...
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You can turn them off @Ziel :D
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Guillo
I'd have everyone in my pocket by… tomorrow
I'm willing to be pocketed by wolf to be a N1 kill to advance Pfft--
2:05 p.m.
I forgot to put mentions off, I think--
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Hi Ziel, nice to meet you
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Ziel :D
👀
you turned them off here... 😞
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Care to share your mafia background?
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Ngekop
You can turn them off @Ziel :D
I know, I just forget sometimes
2:09 p.m.
Wahhhh
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SUNNY!!
you turned them off here... 😞
I did :3
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Guillo
Hi Ziel, nice to meet you
Hello!!!!!!!!
2:09 p.m.
Nice to meet you, Mafia. XD
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Guillo
Care to share your mafia background?
Mhmm, I am very very mafia, so please lynch me D5 maybe
2:10 p.m.
^v^
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Ziel :D
Mhmm, I am very very mafia, so please lynch me D5 maybe
Not what i asked
2:11 p.m.
I don't get it then
2:11 p.m.
XD
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Your experience
2:11 p.m.
Oh
2:11 p.m.
I see
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How long
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WAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHH
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Where have you played
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I've been here for almost a year
2:11 p.m.
But I'm not so good
2:11 p.m.
XD
2:11 p.m.
I've played in a lot of games recently
2:11 p.m.
Such as losing in Sp40
2:12 p.m.
And winning in Ma59
2:12 p.m.
It was an easy win so--
2:12 p.m.
I don't even know what happened there
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I wish you claimed you were a newbie
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I am a newbie
2:13 p.m.
:&
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But given you are experienced, claiming mafia shouldnt be nothing new to you
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I am not experienced though
2:13 p.m.
:^
2:14 p.m.
What is wrong with claiming mafia omie
2:14 p.m.
XD
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You are doing it too much
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Is that really much of a thing?
2:14 p.m.
Oh
2:14 p.m.
I am?
2:14 p.m.
Pfft--
2:15 p.m.
Why?
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I'll stop T^T
2:15 p.m.
I gotta learn how to do that better
2:15 p.m.
XD
2:15 p.m.
I didn't know this tournament had such a big prize ✨
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Kinda townlean you for it though
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I need it
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Ziel :D
I need it
So do i
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Ziel :D
And winning in Ma59
Dont forget sp39
2:16 p.m.
I worked hard on that one for it to be forgotten that easily
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Ngekop
Dont forget sp39
I was looking for the nameeee
2:16 p.m.
Nge carried me hard
2:16 p.m.
I mentioned it
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Nge you know her?
2:16 p.m.
I am indebted to Nge all the way in that game
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Nge even carried me too
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Guillo
Nge you know her?
Yes
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Guillo
Nge you know her?
I will reply for Nge, Yes
2:17 p.m.
Oh
2:17 p.m.
See
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Guillo
Nge even carried me too
Nge carry is amazing
2:17 p.m.
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Ngekop
Yes
Is she pron to wifom as mafia?
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Ziel :D
Nge carry is amazing
Is?
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Wifom is reverse psych, right?
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Guillo
Is?
Yeah?
2:18 p.m.
'Nge-carry'
2:18 p.m.
as a noun
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Because Nge is amazingggggggg
2:18 p.m.
We won
2:18 p.m.
Like
2:18 p.m.
As in
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Nge only has one record of losing as Mafia
2:19 p.m.
I'm straying away from backreading
2:19 p.m.
XD
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Yah he is outstanding
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That's right
2:19 p.m.
I should make a Nge-stan corner out here somewhere
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I selected him to win the tourney in the poll
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I'll make a petition someday
2:19 p.m.
:D
2:20 p.m.
OHH
2:20 p.m.
There's a poll?
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I hope Nge is at the least town
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There was i think
2:20 p.m.
No more
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I think worst case here is that me and Nge aren't on the same side
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Guillo
Is she pron to wifom as mafia?
Dude i misread this
2:20 p.m.
Sticker
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I treat Nge like an idol, personally
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Guillo
Is she pron to wifom as mafia?
Uh not sure
2:21 p.m.
The closest i was to ever being TvT with her was when she was amnesiac and converted to town last day of the game
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Ziel :D
Because Nge is amazingggggggg
<3
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So you dont know if she is capable of wofomjng the crap out of is out of nowhere as scum
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Let’s keep ziel alive until F3
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Ngekop
<3
<3<3<3
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Ziel :D
Nge only has one record of losing as Mafia
Tbf i have one L as maf AND one as coven
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I overlooked that post
2:23 p.m.
What does that mean--
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Ziel :D
I should make a Nge-stan corner out here somewhere
Omg
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Guillo
I selected him to win the tourney in the poll
Oop
2:23 p.m.
Ok you probs shouldnt have
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Whyyyyyyyy
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I have myself in the final but i’ll be really busy those days
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Oh well
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I sincerely do
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And i assume the final table will be like
2:23 p.m.
Elite
2:23 p.m.
Wahhhhh
2:24 p.m.
I don't even have a chance of winning
2:24 p.m.
Pfft
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Ngekop
Tbf i have one L as maf AND one as coven
Still
2:24 p.m.
:>
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Ziel :D
I treat Nge like an idol, personally
cat_blush
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Everyone has equal chance
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Guillo
So you dont know if she is capable of wofomjng the crap out of is out of nowhere as scum
I mean she def is capable
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Ngekop
Omg
I'll be the #1 top fan ✨
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Ngekop
cat_blush
:2
2:25 p.m.
:3
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Omg i cant
2:25 p.m.
Ziel
2:25 p.m.
Jfkebfodjsbd
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Ngekop
I mean she def is capable
What does that mean
2:25 p.m.
Wahhhhhhhh
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Ziel :D
What does that mean
That you could do it as maf
2:25 p.m.
The wifom thingy
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Nge, you got me in your pocketttt
2:25 p.m.
Wifom
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As in
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I? But i havent done
2:25 p.m.
Anything that you’ve seen
2:26 p.m.
Game related yet
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Can you state a situation??
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Other than saying you’re so nice
2:26 p.m.
I'll trust we're aligned until proven otherwiseeeee
2:26 p.m.
Because
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I'm gonna rely on you
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Ngekop
I mean she def is capable
Ah well i guess no townlean for her for showing lack of care about perception from others as a newbie
2:28 p.m.
Maybe townlean for doing it as slank though
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lilypetal
spooky
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 2:28 p.m.
Don't scum try to make out that they don't care about being voted? 🤨
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Imma just say this
2:29 p.m.
@Mafia if you kill me tonight please at least vote me in the top3 at the end of the game
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charlie
Anyways lets change the topic : Vote Count Follower : Ngekop -Voted Gullio because RVS. -Voted Ane because he froze. Sunny Chaos Ziel Lily -Voted Ane because he's ungeuine -Voted EOTH, bad reads Ane -Voted Lily for no reason? Guillo -Voted me because of LAMST. -Voted Nge thinks he's putting on a show. -Voted me bc he thinks I'm confirmed scum? EOTH Do we think all these votes were reasonable?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 2:29 p.m.
Lily vote was because I wanted to test out the bot
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Like it’d the least you can do frfr
2:29 p.m.
it’s*
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What is this about me making a wifom T^T
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 2:30 p.m.
Btw all of the msgs you send, I won't see them because I'm going along with reading, and posting my responses for things that I can actually think to respond about
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Anemoia/Abyss
Btw all of the msgs you send, I won't see them because I'm going along with reading, and posting my responses for things that I can actually think to respond about
Gotcha!
2:31 p.m.
They won't see my reply
2:31 p.m.
Pfft--
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Ziel wanna be like my online little sister or smth
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Ngekop
Ziel wanna be like my online little sister or smth
SURE
2:31 p.m.
I've always wanted to be someone's little sis
2:32 p.m.
pingu
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I'm the first of my generation in my famile
2:32 p.m.
So
2:32 p.m.
;-;
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Ziel :D
I'm the first of my generation in my famile
And im the last lol
2:32 p.m.
WAHHAHAHHAAHHA
2:33 p.m.
Do I call you onii-chan?
2:33 p.m.
:3
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Ngekop
pingu
Dancing emojis are so Nitro-ish
2:33 p.m.
Wahh
2:33 p.m.
This nitro i have is from a friend
2:33 p.m.
And that’s my favorite emote
2:33 p.m.
Hi guillo
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Whom did you vote for Nge, it shows numbers to me
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Genesischaos
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I do see it from you mostlyyy
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:W dancing penguin:
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I brought it here
2:34 p.m.
Then lune stole it
2:34 p.m.
Bc lune liked it so much as well
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Have you watched Happy Feet?
2:34 p.m.
Oww
2:34 p.m.
Not in a while tho
2:35 p.m.
I dont remember most of that movie
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I would've also used it already if I had Nitro XD
2:35 p.m.
Same
2:35 p.m.
I just remembered it
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Plus
2:35 p.m.
There's the Penguins of Madagascar
2:35 p.m.
This is so out of topic omie
2:36 p.m.
Oh noooooooooo
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I pressed back to present on my backreading tab T^T
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Enough with the fluff
2:36 p.m.
How much have you read?
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Up to you saying Calla is scum
2:37 p.m.
Why?
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Ziel Callahan asked for a read list If you managed to read that far up, surely you have something
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Ziel :D
There's the Penguins of Madagascar
Yeah i HAVE watched that
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How was Calla scum
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Also the series
2:37 p.m.
I watched p much all of the episodes
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Not yet though
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Ziel :D
Why?
Cause i want reads and you are kinda behind
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I was just scanning
2:37 p.m.
I iso for read list
2:37 p.m.
Ah--
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SUNNY!!
Ziel Callahan asked for a read list If you managed to read that far up, surely you have something
Wat
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Ngekop
Yeah i HAVE watched that
I remember the movie about Private joining
2:38 p.m.
Wahhh
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I'll come back
2:38 p.m.
In a while
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Just keep reading
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I gotta
2:38 p.m.
Make reads
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Catch up
2:39 p.m.
How do expect her to have a list
2:39 p.m.
She is reading back
2:39 p.m.
She cant do one until she catches up
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Then come and post your reads or Suspicious
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Ngekop
How do expect her to have a list
THANK YOU ✨
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Ngekop
She cant do one until she catches up
Yes i want her to catch up before making reads
2:39 p.m.
That is the point
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Guillo
Yes i want her to catch up before making reads
Ik
2:40 p.m.
Im telling sunny
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Ngekop
Ok but
i don't expect her to have a full long read list but maybe just take the time to get something instead of talking about other stuff and ignoring it 😞
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I got it
2:45 p.m.
So
2:45 p.m.
Let me
2:45 p.m.
Do so in peace
2:45 p.m.
;-;
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okaaaay sillyermmlooks
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@genesischaos hi
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Guillo
Enough with the fluff
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 2:49 p.m.
I like this
2:50 p.m.
And I'm finished mostly skimming
2:50 p.m.
And uhhh-
2:50 p.m.
Yeah
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@Anemoia/Abyss wdyt about all the argument around eoth’s list
2:53 p.m.
Me/guillo/eoth/calla/lily all had a fair amount of content regarding that thing
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Ngekop
@Anemoia/Abyss wdyt about all the argument around eoth’s list
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 2:56 p.m.
That was a lot of info to process
2:56 p.m.
But
2:56 p.m.
I thought that Calla and Lily were overreacting a little bit
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Do you think they could be partnered?
2:57 p.m.
What do you think about eoth’s list explaining the reads and my approach to it as well as guillo’s
2:58 p.m.
I get it’s a lot to process so no rushing dw
2:58 p.m.
Just whenever you have time pls answer those
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 2:59 p.m.
Yeah uhhhh
2:59 p.m.
Man that's a lot of info to look back on-
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It def is
3:00 p.m.
Which is why
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Ngekop
What do you think about eoth’s list explaining the reads and my approach to it as well as guillo’s
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:00 p.m.
From what I've seen, I like how Gullio was pretty aggressive with it, idk his scum range but I like how direct and aggressive he was with thay
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No rushing
3:00 p.m.
But having your takes on those could help
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:00 p.m.
All based off of memory
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Ngekop
But having your takes on those could help
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:00 p.m.
Cool
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Anemoia/Abyss
From what I've seen, I like how Gullio was pretty aggressive with it, idk his scum range but I like how direct and aggressive he was with thay
Cool
3:01 p.m.
So guillo and i will probs be the first two night kills atp
3:02 p.m.
@Guillo we have to lynch both mafias b2b and/or find another townie
3:05 p.m.
K so
3:05 p.m.
We dont vote calla or guillo today imo
3:05 p.m.
Not saying i tr calla
3:05 p.m.
I just dont want her out today
3:05 p.m.
I also dont really sr her
3:05 p.m.
So ye
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@EasyOnTheHills can you pls elaborate on where did calla feel forced to you
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Ngekop
We dont vote calla or guillo today imo
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:05 p.m.
I agree
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I think you still havent
3:06 p.m.
And like
3:06 p.m.
You were asked like 4 times
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Anemoia/Abyss
I agree
Why do you agree on calla
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:06 p.m.
I just want to interact with Calla more to get a better understanding
3:07 p.m.
Wouldnt that apply to people like ziel/genesis/eoth too tho
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:07 p.m.
Yes
3:08 p.m.
It applies to everyone,but some I need to interact with more while others I think I have a grasp on
3:08 p.m.
You, Nge, I don't have a firm grasp on
3:09 p.m.
You'll always be towny, since it's just y'know... You. So I want to have an in-depth conversation with you to see if you're towny or scummy to me or not
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Why are you trying to act like me rn lol?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:10 p.m.
I'm not
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You are literally just parroted what I said about eoth
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:10 p.m.
Well- not trying to
3:10 p.m.
Shush, respectfully
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:11 p.m.
I haven't recalled you saying that, so I didn't copy you consciously
3:11 p.m.
Ever*
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You obviously are?
3:11 p.m.
💀
3:11 p.m.
Because I know DAMN well u have no idea how to read people through people interacting with you
3:12 p.m.
Dude stop copying me like what
3:12 p.m.
Read the game how you read the game not how other ppl read the game
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:14 p.m.
I. Am. Not. Copying. You
3:14 p.m.
I don't even like committing plagiarism
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You litterally are
3:14 p.m.
It’s yucky asf
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charlie
Because I know DAMN well u have no idea how to read people through people interacting with you
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:14 p.m.
OMG
3:14 p.m.
Whoops
3:15 p.m.
Wrong thing
3:15 p.m.
Lemme restart that
3:15 p.m.
Ahem
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charlie
You litterally are
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:15 p.m.
OMG
3:15 p.m.
I am not even purposely copying you
3:15 p.m.
How would you even know what I'm thinking of right now?
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Because you are parroting what I spoke about
3:16 p.m.
On how I read people
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You don’t read people that way
3:16 p.m.
Bc u don’t know how too??
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You never developed that ability yet
3:16 p.m.
As a player
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You wouldn’t even know what to look for?
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I know Nge did not ever teach you how to read people like that
3:17 p.m.
And I know you couldn’t possibly developed it randomly
3:17 p.m.
You are either bullshitting right now or your parroting
3:18 p.m.
The reason how read people like that because I have a naturally scummy playstyle, you have no idea what your playstyle is so you can’t possibly have that ability to read people like that
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charlie
You never developed that ability yet
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:20 p.m.
How can I develop skills without trying them?
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Maybe you need to ask how can I read people through that then just stating you can?
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charlie
Because you are parroting what I spoke about
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:21 p.m.
Why are you so hyper focused on that I'm trying to parrot you when I DIDN'T
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You can’t develop a skill if you do not know how to do it
3:21 p.m.
Bc it find it gross when ppl try to copy me
3:21 p.m.
And I’m unsure why u r feeling the need to do it
3:21 p.m.
Why u are lying about a skill u don’t possess
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charlie
Maybe you need to ask how can I read people through that then just stating you can?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:21 p.m.
I never said I can, you're putting words into my mouth, I said I "Want" to, I want to try to do it, duh duh doi
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Because obviously u just admitted u don’t have it so that’s why u r trying
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charlie
Because obviously u just admitted u don’t have it so that’s why u r trying
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:22 p.m.
Yeah
3:22 p.m.
This conversation
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How could you possible read me through that if you don’t have that skill
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charlie
You can’t develop a skill if you do not know how to do it
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:22 p.m.
You can't develop a skill if you don't ever do it
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WELL ASK HOW
3:22 p.m.
BC U DONT KNOW HOW
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:22 p.m.
Istg this is making me angry-
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SO U WONT BE HELPING TOWN
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charlie
WELL ASK HOW
@how answer pls
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charlie
WELL ASK HOW
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:22 p.m.
SHUSH
3:23 p.m.
I'LL TRY IF I WAN
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U can’t help town if you don’t know how to use that skill
3:23 p.m.
Ask somebody how to do it
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Ngekop
@how answer pls
XD
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charlie
Ask somebody how to do it
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:23 p.m.
FINE
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THANK U
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:23 p.m.
@charlie how do I do it?
3:23 p.m.
Teach me.
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Anemoia/Abyss
@charlie how do I do it?
Okay nods
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:23 p.m.
Right now.
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LOL WHAT IS THIS CONVO
3:23 p.m.
okay
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How would you describe your plaustylev
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:23 p.m.
If it makes you happy
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Playstyle
3:24 p.m.
As town
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charlie
The reason how read people like that because I have a naturally scummy playstyle, you have no idea what your playstyle is so you can’t possibly have that ability to read people like that
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:24 p.m.
Ok well you're right I don't know my playstyle... That much
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charlie
As town
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:25 p.m.
Tbh I usually just watch the others and try to see if there's anything that's towny about it
3:25 p.m.
(like what they say)
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That’s how your scum reading/town reading, I’m talking about how you play
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:25 p.m.
Or scummy
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charlie
That’s how your scum reading/town reading, I’m talking about how you play
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:25 p.m.
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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What is your playstyle as town
3:26 p.m.
What is your approach
3:26 p.m.
How do you view the game
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:26 p.m.
Example please?
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How do you handle things
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:26 p.m.
:>
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charlie
How do you handle things
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:26 p.m.
Oh uh
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Like I know for the fact I change how I play each game to avoid pmeta which makes me have a more natural scummy playstyle due to people always being on edge around me
3:26 p.m.
They always are second guessing my actions
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:26 p.m.
I usually just uhh
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Not really knowing if I’m being genuine or not
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:27 p.m.
Well what I usually do as town is uhm
3:27 p.m.
GREAT NOW I DON'T KNOW
3:27 p.m.
Idek how I play as scum
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charlie
Not really knowing if I’m being genuine or not
Bc you many times are not
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:27 p.m.
Bro this is how I get my first existential crisis
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In fact you really RARELY are completely genuine
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Ngekop
Bc you many times are not
😪
3:28 p.m.
U got me
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Anemoia/Abyss
Bro this is how I get my first existential crisis
Well it’s a higher skill I think so? Maybe idk
3:28 p.m.
New players don’t usually read like that
3:28 p.m.
They read what people are saying not how other interact with them
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Others
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Anemoia/Abyss
Well what I usually do as town is uhm
Are u town this game or not
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:29 p.m.
Yes
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Then what r u doing this game
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:29 p.m.
.
3:30 p.m.
I'm kind of just viewing the game and uh, how do I put this on words
3:30 p.m.
Idk how to describe it tbh
3:31 p.m.
It's like trying to view in from the outside almost? Like uh, I go down and comment on things when I look at messages some of the time
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Are your comments progressing the game
3:32 p.m.
Are you forming new ideas or adding onto existing ideas
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Since this conversation stopped a bit @Guillo can we agree these arent two citizens talking
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:37 p.m.
Uhhhhh
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literally how
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:37 p.m.
Man these are some difficult questions for me- like actually difficult
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Dude how is are diffcult
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:38 p.m.
IDK
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So basically ur admitting u done nothing townie so far
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charlie
literally how
Bc it’s so fake
3:38 p.m.
It just
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Like no
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:38 p.m.
They're just difficult to answer
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Ngekop
Bc it’s so fake
It’s very real on my end
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:38 p.m.
Me too
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It’s not pure like
3:38 p.m.
It can have mason
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:38 p.m.
Y'know what? Imma think about it and take a shower because I feel yucky
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Or mafia
3:38 p.m.
But
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Explain then nge
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I’ll be shocked
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Explain with ur big brain
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If it ends up being 2 cits
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charlie
Explain with ur big brain
My brain is
3:38 p.m.
Small af
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Can we quit it with the mason talk
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Also i cant explain it? But that conversation def was werid
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Like omfg
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charlie
Can we quit it with the mason talk
No
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It’s like ur litterally trying to help mafia narrowing down masons
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No it isnt
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Yes it is
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They cant know my intent behind what i say
3:39 p.m.
I can be telling the truth
3:39 p.m.
I can be mason wifoming
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Ngekop
Also i cant explain it? But that conversation def was werid
Oh okay so it’s basically baseless cool
3:40 p.m.
Love that
3:40 p.m.
We love when ppl yap but can’t explain themselves
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I can be cit throwing that shade unto someone who i DONT believe is mason
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charlie
We love when ppl yap but can’t explain themselves
??
3:40 p.m.
Chill
3:40 p.m.
Lol
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Sorry it’s just like
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I don’t understand
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Im allowed
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How it’s fake
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To have feelings
3:40 p.m.
And share them
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And then u can’t explain it
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So it’s like
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What am I suppose to do
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charlie
How it’s fake
Not fake but not 100% legit genuine
3:40 p.m.
Like
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Smth’s off
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It’s genuine on my side
3:41 p.m.
When he stole
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Smth feels off
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My fuckinh
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Read style
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And then tried to play it off like he didn’t
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Anyways i’ll stop there
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And then was like
3:41 p.m.
Idk how to read
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Since i dont sr either of you
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But u have to admit nge
3:41 p.m.
What was he doing
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Idk and idrc
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And then he was like oh idk how I play as town
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That’s another thing
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Like aren’t u town this game
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You were arguing over styles
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U care enough to say something
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Ngekop
Since this conversation stopped a bit @Guillo can we agree these arent two citizens talking
Can I agree with you?
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Ofc you can
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Ziel u have no idea what has been happening at all
3:42 p.m.
And u still do not have a read list
3:42 p.m.
Or any actually comments
3:42 p.m.
That u haven’t been sheeping
3:42 p.m.
Not saying ur scum but u need to pick it up
3:44 p.m.
Making one
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Anyways it’s pretty obvious who scum is
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I just visited because I saw the unread count
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Ziel :D
Making one
Okay thank u nods
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@genesischaos
3:45 p.m.
Exist again pls
3:45 p.m.
;-;
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Can’t we just wait for a sub
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I’d rather have him talk instead of waiting 40 hours to get a sub
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Has he even spoke
3:46 p.m.
He has
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What has he said
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He said like hi
3:46 p.m.
Pinged me
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And said he wondered if i remembered him
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And dipped again
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Damn okay that gives me nothing
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5 posts
3:46 p.m.
Oof
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Exactly
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He said he';; skim
3:47 p.m.
Than POof
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But that’s enough for him to potentially don’t get replaced until mid-d2
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*he'll
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Do we have
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Not good for me tbh
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Post things
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30 game related posts
3:48 p.m.
100%
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Oh they just get a prod
3:48 p.m.
Okay here’s my thing I think I metioned this before but like idk
3:48 p.m.
Where is my votes
3:48 p.m.
Like I feel like I should be pushed by scum rn
3:48 p.m.
But I had one vote?
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And the Ane if he’s town I don’t think he is he only had 2 votes
3:49 p.m.
Like what is happening
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Spoiler: Calla, you're in my town reads :'3
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As a town
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thank u
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Yes you are
3:49 p.m.
:D
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nods valid read
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It’s called majority existing d1 and newbies not wanting to vote when most people aren’t
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Can I raise a question?
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Don’t we only have 3 newbies
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Ziel wasn’t here
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Where's the vote chat
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Ane knows how to vote
3:50 p.m.
Oh
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Um
3:50 p.m.
Here
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charlie
Ane knows how to vote
But doesnt want to
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Thank you
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Abyss never votes early d1
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I couldn't see it anywhere ;-;
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Ngekop
But doesnt want to
Same with Sunny but sunny doesn’t vote out of nerves
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Regardless of his alignment
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Now they r
3:51 p.m.
I don’t know I just
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Feel like there should be more votes
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Well abyss doesnt vote
3:51 p.m.
Ziel just came in
3:51 p.m.
Genesis hasnt done a thing
3:51 p.m.
@EasyOnTheHills shouldnt you be voting someone
3:52 p.m.
You sr lily and calla
3:52 p.m.
Why not voting in there yet
3:52 p.m.
He secretly town reads me
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I think the quality in this game is p good
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starts breakdancing so good that it makes everyone tr me
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I’d be really surprised if less than 5 people from this table advance
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Idt you/me/guillo/lily wouldnt advance like ever to jury vote
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Jury vote?
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Sunny/abyss are trying for good
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charlie
Jury vote?
Ye
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I thought the hosts were just judging
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It’s 3 from each game + jury vote overall
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Am I voting for ppl in this game
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Jury is the 3 hosts lmao
3:57 p.m.
Yes
3:57 p.m.
okay
3:57 p.m.
Icic
3:57 p.m.
Sunny u about to advance fr
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And jury will vote 9 more players
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Ngekop
Sunny/abyss are trying for good
what does that mean
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Between all the 6 games
3:57 p.m.
In any way they want to tbh
3:58 p.m.
Like they can pick the 9 players in a game if they consider those 9 all played outstandingly and better than the rest in other games
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SUNNY!!
what does that mean
Putting effort in
3:58 p.m.
And not playing badly
3:58 p.m.
Taking this seriously
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Ngekop
Abyss never votes early d1
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:58 p.m.
Yessir
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Regardless of what you are
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Ngekop
Like they can pick the 9 players in a game if they consider those 9 all played outstandingly and better than the rest in other games
Wait
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Ngekop
Sunny/abyss are trying for good
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 3:59 p.m.
For good?
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We are competing with the two other games happening rn
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 4:00 p.m.
Oh now I get iy
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Ngekop
Regardless of what you are
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 4:00 p.m.
Yessir
4:00 p.m.
If I vote early there's something wrong with me
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charlie
We are competing with the two other games happening rn
5*
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 4:00 p.m.
On D1
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It’s all the games
4:00 p.m.
Lol
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Oh shit I AM not advancing
4:01 p.m.
Wow
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3 will advance per game (3x6 = 18 total)
4:01 p.m.
LOL
4:01 p.m.
💀
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Then the jury will pick
4:01 p.m.
9 more
4:01 p.m.
Between the 36 remaining
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charlie
Oh shit I AM not advancing
I dont see you ever not advancing ngl
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Anemoia/Abyss
If I vote early there's something wrong with me
U did vote Lily Ik it was a bot check or whatever but haha SMILE
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Ngekop
I dont see you ever not advancing ngl
My reads can be totally wrong this game
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I think u need correct reads that’s how my last tour went
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You have contributed a lot to generate a fair amount of content
4:02 p.m.
That’s imo more helpful than what will happen in most of the other games
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Dude where is the guide line on what they r grading for
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charlie
U did vote Lily Ik it was a bot check or whatever but haha SMILE
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 4:03 p.m.
Nooooo! (L me)
4:03 p.m.
I just wanted to see bot, that doesn't count. I don't remember it counting, therefore it doesn't rxist
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oh hold up the other 3 games are happening now too? or did i read that wrong
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 4:03 p.m.
Yep
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Just our group tho furst
4:04 p.m.
4,5,6 goes after us three
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OH alright gotchu
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Ngekop
Bc i consider myself a good player
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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charlie
Are your comments progressing the game
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 4:05 p.m.
I just comment on things and so far idt they have been progressing the game, so no. I'm adding on and forming new ideas(mostly adding on)
4:06 p.m.
Just to answer your question
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Do you think you are playing like a town would
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 4:06 p.m.
Idk
4:06 p.m.
Maybe?
4:07 p.m.
That's a little vague as there can be many kinds of things a town can do
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Now there is basics to every single town game play
4:07 p.m.
The foundations
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 4:07 p.m.
The foundations.
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Ngekop
@Ziel :D is here too!
*All Might vibez
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Hello people
4:26 p.m.
I am sorry to announce that my reads
4:27 p.m.
Aren't done yet
4:27 p.m.
T^T
4:27 p.m.
I just came here to say that
4:27 p.m.
XD
4:27 p.m.
It's 4:30 AM but... this is more important >:3
4:50 p.m.
Can I ping all players here?
4:50 p.m.
Omie
4:53 p.m.
Hello???
4:53 p.m.
@4th Anniversary Finalist
4:53 p.m.
Are you ready for me?
4:53 p.m.
XD
4:54 p.m.
I can't say that it's much
4:54 p.m.
But I acquired this much after
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Sooooooooooooooooooo loooooooooonnnnnggggggggg
4:54 p.m.
I'll fiiiiiinallly sleep soon
4:54 p.m.
Wahhhhhhhhh
4:54 p.m.
So take me
4:54 p.m.
## PLAYERS:
4:55 p.m.
  • Ngekop (Hard Town Lean)
    • The N1 kill claims feels genuine T^T... (please no! ;-;.)
    • The dad jokes! Hihihh
    • I'm glad about saying that I feel Nge's towniness so much that it's 75% impossible for him to be scum. Ahhhhh! That's why I'll rely on him!
4:55 p.m.
  • SUNNY (Town Lean)
    • Being the first wolf game seems unlikely-ly unlikely,,,? XD.
    • Wahhhhh! That push on Nge feels sincerely town! Although I don't think Nge really is Wolf. As I said, 75% impossibleeee!! Sunny Town!
4:55 p.m.
  • genesischaos (IA, Null Scum)
    • Busy, maybe? Negatively busy. Not much to go on. ;-;. They leave a bad impression.
4:55 p.m.
  • Callahan (Town Lean)
    • Calla is giving me the wolfy town vibes. I think that counts as town...
    • Calla pushing for reads seem like normal to me. She was town in those games, and wow this is kind of meta?
    • (More here later on.,,)
4:55 p.m.
  • Ziel :D
    • Hello! :3. Feel free to insert text here. Thank you!
4:56 p.m.
  • lilypetal (Town Lean)
    • The Guillo meta post is likely towny. That's it. I can't say anything more ;-;.
4:56 p.m.
  • Anemoia[>>>Abyss] (Wolf Lean)
    • The freezing (yet no, I don't have much to say about that) but most especially that between Calla which does not at all make up a conversation between two town-aligned players. In which Ane seems the wolfier.
4:56 p.m.
  • Guillo (Null)
    • I am swayed by the metas concerning the 'nice wolfy' Guillo act, but I don't believe it's this way, ahh...?
    • The pushing done by Guillo... I don't know what to feel about that...
    • I need to read more into Guillo. More on maybe later on...
4:56 p.m.
  • EasyOnTheHills (Wolf Lean)
    • Uhh... I don't believe EOTH's reads are accurate... I don't think their reads count as wolfy,,,
    • Their reads make sense. I don't think 100% accurate, but makes sense... I need to read onto it later on.
    • That reaction to their (Calla and Lily's) reactions was not towny. In my opinion, it's normal they'd be defensive if they have the right to defend themselves (both are my town reads as well)... 78% wolfy, 22% towny.
4:56 p.m.
So my town to scum is Ngekop (✨), Calla, Sunny, Lily, Guillo, genesischaos, EasyOnTheHills/Ane
4:56 p.m.
THAT'S ALL
4:56 p.m.
GOOD NIGHT PEOPLE
4:56 p.m.
Is it even night XD
4:56 p.m.
/j
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I almost forgot to vote
5:07 p.m.
Oh no
5:07 p.m.
#4th-qual-1-vote
5:11 p.m.
No one's here T^T
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Ziel :D
@4th Anniversary Finalist
Why
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Additional: https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169423047829246055 Wouldn't that likely imply you're wolf...? You're not though!!
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Ngekop
Why
My reads are here
5:12 p.m.
If
5:12 p.m.
Y'all want it
5:14 p.m.
Ziel would definitely not bus d1
5:14 p.m.
Unless partner asks for it
5:14 p.m.
Which abyss wouldnt ever do
5:15 p.m.
Im starting to kinda agree on eoth/abyss but
5:15 p.m.
Ugh
5:15 p.m.
@genesischaos pls make yourself obv town or scumtell tyvm
5:18 p.m.
@SUNNY!! what were you going to say?
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Those are very surface level reads, with no concrete path how you got there Ziel
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I also believe you just perspective slipped my friend
5:23 p.m.
How
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  • EasyOnTheHills (Wolf Lean)
    • Uhh... I don't believe EOTH's reads are accurate... I don't think their reads count as wolfy,,,
    • Their reads make sense. I don't think 100% accurate, but makes sense... I need to read onto it later on.
    • That reaction to their (Calla and Lily's) reactions was not towny. In my opinion, it's normal they'd be defensive if they have the right to defend themselves (both are my town reads as well)... 78% wolfy, 22% towny.
5:25 p.m.
To judge based on accuracy you gotta know info to base it on
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Ngekop
@SUNNY!! what were you going to say?
i wadnt gonna say anything wgat 😞
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I saw you typing iirc
5:27 p.m.
Rip
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sorry i keep misspelling half asleep
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Oh well
5:27 p.m.
I don't know
5:27 p.m.
Because that's just how I make reads?
5:27 p.m.
:^
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I think we should make genesis do something
5:27 p.m.
So im staying here hoping someone joins
5:27 p.m.
I really am about to sleep
5:27 p.m.
Just checked in for a while
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Guillo
To judge based on accuracy you gotta know info to base it on
I see ;-;
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I also believe Ziel is hard white knight Nge based on … meta
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Guillo
I also believe Ziel is hard white knight Nge based on … meta
What does this mean
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I'll add them tomorrow
5:28 p.m.
I guess
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Not sure what to think about it
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I wonder how I'm able to last until now T^T
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Ngekop
What does this mean
Means there is association between you to or she is trying to make you look associated
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I don't know what that means...
5:29 p.m.
Byee
5:29 p.m.
POof
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We’re partners or you’re trying to make it look like it
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Means you could be mafia together or you are trying to make look that way
5:30 p.m.
Yah
5:31 p.m.
And im wondering why you have not questioned the massive pocket Nge
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Ngekop
We’re partners or you’re trying to make it look like it
I think we're basically not yet partners and I was not trying to make Nge look associated with me
5:31 p.m.
I'm really leaving nowww
5:31 p.m.
Wahhhhhhhhh
5:31 p.m.
I won't reply >:D
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Not yet partners?????
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Guillo
And im wondering why you have not questioned the massive pocket Nge
Bc she is cute
5:32 p.m.
Also like idm it
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Okay last Because we haven't been working together so much yet?
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Getting pocketed usually gets you to stay alive
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Ngekop
Bc she is cute
Wahhhhhh
5:32 p.m.
You're amazing Ngeeee
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And rn im null on her
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Ngekop
Getting pocketed usually gets you to stay alive
@lilypetal
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Ngekop
And rn im null on her
Fair
5:32 p.m.
Wow
5:33 p.m.
The sun is rising
5:33 p.m.
I never get to see the sunrise
5:33 p.m.
sfhkbnisutgkjhneo
5:33 p.m.
I should leave...
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Poor logic right there, means you are in survival mode … the plot thickens…
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Ziel :D
  • Ngekop (Hard Town Lean)
    • The N1 kill claims feels genuine T^T... (please no! ;-;.)
    • The dad jokes! Hihihh
    • I'm glad about saying that I feel Nge's towniness so much that it's 75% impossible for him to be scum. Ahhhhh! That's why I'll rely on him!
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 5:33 p.m.
I'm not going to rely on this
5:33 p.m.
Also hi
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Guillo
Poor logic right there, means you are in survival mode … the plot thickens…
Not true
5:33 p.m.
I just got dismissed
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But i do prefer surviving
5:34 p.m.
And i dont sr that from ziel even if i dont tr it either
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My 2-3 estimated hours of sleep are hurt
5:34 p.m.
Nevermind
5:34 p.m.
Bye
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So i wont trade me surviving for questioning/pressuring someone i dont have a read on
5:35 p.m.
That said you’re obv right that her reasons for the tr on me which is her admittedly hardest tl
5:35 p.m.
Are uh
5:35 p.m.
Bad to say the least
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Ziel :D
I just got dismissed
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 5:36 p.m.
You talking about me?
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She talked about her being ignored
5:36 p.m.
Im just ignoring her bc she needs to go to sleep
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 5:36 p.m.
Icic
5:37 p.m.
Ouch the vote count
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Ziel :D
  • EasyOnTheHills (Wolf Lean)
    • Uhh... I don't believe EOTH's reads are accurate... I don't think their reads count as wolfy,,,
    • Their reads make sense. I don't think 100% accurate, but makes sense... I need to read onto it later on.
    • That reaction to their (Calla and Lily's) reactions was not towny. In my opinion, it's normal they'd be defensive if they have the right to defend themselves (both are my town reads as well)... 78% wolfy, 22% towny.
I'm a bit confused on why you voted Ane over EOTH, when EOTH's read seems to be a bit more in depth?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 5:46 p.m.
Also why does Gullio even tr me even though there's suspicious stuff piled on me?
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Guillo
I also believe Ziel is hard white knight Nge based on … meta
Could you explain white knight to me like what does that mean in mafia terms
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charlie
I'm a bit confused on why you voted Ane over EOTH, when EOTH's read seems to be a bit more in depth?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 5:48 p.m.
I mean you sr me so I mean-
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Yeah, but my reason is very different then hers
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charlie
Could you explain white knight to me like what does that mean in mafia terms
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 5:48 p.m.
I think it's like getting the other two like you or smth
5:48 p.m.
Too*
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To*
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Pocketing?
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charlie
Yeah, but my reason is very different then hers
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 5:48 p.m.
It's because I'm trying to hard, right
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charlie
Pocketing?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 5:49 p.m.
Idk, I'm just guessing
5:49 p.m.
White Knight reminds me of charisma so
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I think like if
5:50 p.m.
I remember it's like I thought it was like
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a savior
5:50 p.m.
Like oh ur being scum read but im scum so ill town read u and be ur savior like that bc I have TMI
5:51 p.m.
hold up mafiascum wiki got my back
5:51 p.m.
WKing: White Knighting. Aggressively defending another player, implied to be town. Similar to Buddying.
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 5:51 p.m.
Lol
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charlie
WKing: White Knighting. Aggressively defending another player, implied to be town. Similar to Buddying.
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 5:52 p.m.
Ohhhh
5:52 p.m.
Now it makes sense
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Yeah but i dont think ziel was agressively defending nge at all 😭
5:52 p.m.
Just being like i hope ur town
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 5:52 p.m.
But Ziel is doing it without good reason except for like- "Dad Jokes hihihi"
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trying to buddy with them
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charlie
Yeah but i dont think ziel was agressively defending nge at all 😭
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 5:52 p.m.
Definitely not aggressively
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Buddying is a tactic used to subconsciously become perceived as less of a threat by another player. While this is usually done by scum, Townies have been known to do this as well.
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 5:52 p.m.
I agree
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Like i would be like this with ziel
5:53 p.m.
This is typically accomplished by the buddying player acting unnaturally friendly to its target, either subtly or outright. Originally, this made it so that once the buddying scum died, it implicated the victim they were acting friendly toward. In addition, by budding up to a victim, they will become less likely to want to vote out the buddying player in the first place. More recently, though, this has become used as a pre-emptive accusation against anyone who acts nicely toward another player, regardless of intent.
5:54 p.m.
Yeah this seems wayyyyy more like ziel, then a white knight
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 5:54 p.m.
Yeah
5:54 p.m.
I agree
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charlie
Could you explain white knight to me like what does that mean in mafia terms
White Knight is when a scum defends a townie to make them look partnered. Which is different from pocketing, pocketing is earning the townies favor by any means necessary.
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charlie
This is typically accomplished by the buddying player acting unnaturally friendly to its target, either subtly or outright. Originally, this made it so that once the buddying scum died, it implicated the victim they were acting friendly toward. In addition, by budding up to a victim, they will become less likely to want to vote out the buddying player in the first place. More recently, though, this has become used as a pre-emptive accusation against anyone who acts nicely toward another player, regardless of intent.
Yah white knight is buddying
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Guillo
White Knight is when a scum defends a townie to make them look partnered. Which is different from pocketing, pocketing is earning the townies favor by any means necessary.
I mean do u believe nge was being defended
6:33 p.m.
But i dont remember anybody being like hmm about him, and zeil being like woah woah guys
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There is something between those two
6:39 p.m.
This reaction to Ziel here: https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169746328809639947 Is very different to this here https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169748649740349502 If Nge thought those were surface level reads as well, why didnt he say something? Town Nge does not accept surface level reads on themselves and pockets, he’d be aware of it. Then after i voiced my concern he did state it here: https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169751720197365902
6:41 p.m.
Felt like he was waiting to see what other people said before he made any compromises.
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Guillo
This reaction to Ziel here: https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169746328809639947 Is very different to this here https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169748649740349502 If Nge thought those were surface level reads as well, why didnt he say something? Town Nge does not accept surface level reads on themselves and pockets, he’d be aware of it. Then after i voiced my concern he did state it here: https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169751720197365902
Idk how to explain that fr
6:43 p.m.
The first time i read it i just didnt react bc i didnt see what you pointed out
6:44 p.m.
Not that way at least
6:44 p.m.
The surface level reads was right but like i already expected ziel to give smth like that regardless of alignment
6:45 p.m.
I wanted to compare it to the list she gave in sp39 before saying anything about it (which i still havent done yet) where she was maf and it was like reaaaaaally surface level and filler
6:45 p.m.
In my memory way more than this
6:45 p.m.
But it might be wrong
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Guillo
Felt like he was waiting to see what other people said before he made any compromises.
This is 100% true but there was also a factor to be added there which is precisely getting anywhere myself
6:46 p.m.
My first feeling was it still felt better than that time but i cant say it yet bc im not sure
6:46 p.m.
Having ziel be this nice to me in a game is definitely new and i dont know how to react to that
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And this keeps bothering me, it looks a lot like a slip https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169701806910226505 As in Nge is carrying me now and when i questioned it She tried to play it like it was a noun use here, which if you analyze the context, it simply was not: https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169702065883332738
6:47 p.m.
Not really
6:47 p.m.
I did read it like she said the first time
6:47 p.m.
As in
6:47 p.m.
A carry by nge is amazing
6:48 p.m.
(+ literally i just carried her like a week ago)
6:48 p.m.
She said i carried her then you said i carried you too and then she said “Nge carry is amazing”
6:49 p.m.
I dont see how that context doesnt fit what she said about it
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Im gonna level with you man. It is either Ziel tried to pocket you to make you look partnered. Or you are the scum accepting that pocket so she looks bad with your flip. The fact that you didnt question it, when you have questioned others for similar things, makes me very sus of you too.
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I never flip before ziel so that just doesnt make sense
6:52 p.m.
The last thing is valid
6:52 p.m.
Although “others” in this case is mostly lily
6:52 p.m.
And that’s just me being way more wary of lily than i am of ziel
6:53 p.m.
Anyways @Guillo im just going to check this but
6:53 p.m.
Here’s the readlist she gave
6:53 p.m.
That sp39 game
6:53 p.m.
(We were both mafs there btw)
6:53 p.m.
🤦‍♂️
6:54 p.m.
You are switching very easily into very drastic like
6:54 p.m.
Choices
6:54 p.m.
W/e
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Ziel :D
  • Ngekop (Hard Town Lean)
    • The N1 kill claims feels genuine T^T... (please no! ;-;.)
    • The dad jokes! Hihihh
    • I'm glad about saying that I feel Nge's towniness so much that it's 75% impossible for him to be scum. Ahhhhh! That's why I'll rely on him!
Ok so
7:00 p.m.
In retrospect yes
7:00 p.m.
Her read on me is the worst in this list
7:00 p.m.
And it’s a hard town lean aka the strongest she has
7:01 p.m.
And she has me as a good player as scum so idgi how im that easily 75% town if you go there
7:01 p.m.
That’s
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Uh
7:01 p.m.
Weird
7:01 p.m.
I admit it
7:01 p.m.
Is that what you wanted?
7:02 p.m.
She tries to replicate town behavior or i’d expect that
7:02 p.m.
If she is scum here again
7:03 p.m.
Meaning i doubt her partner would be sunny
7:03 p.m.
Idt it’s abyss either bc she wouldnt bus unless her partner is ok with it which i doubt abyss would encourage
7:03 p.m.
He wouldnt stop her but he wouldnt encourage her
7:04 p.m.
Ziel even asked me for permission to out a sl on me that game and hesitated on doing so
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@charlie you should have a less narrowed view here since
7:05 p.m.
You arent the hardest tr in a weird way in her list
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Oh i haven't read anything u guys typed yet
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And you called her out that time she did this list
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charlie
Oh i haven't read anything u guys typed yet
Im talking about ziel’s list tho
7:05 p.m.
Oh prod time
7:05 p.m.
Rip genesis
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Yeah, I made a comment to here about her list which i was going to lead into more questions
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And maybe eoth
7:06 p.m.
But she dipped so
7:06 p.m.
I'm just waiting
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She stated she had to sleep ages ago tbf
7:06 p.m.
But ic
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it should be 7 am for her rn
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Yo ngekop
7:07 p.m.
Its a me mario
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Genesis/eoth most likely ziel partners if she is scum Lily/guillo backups. The rest imo never maf with ziel
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genesischaos
Yo ngekop
Bro
7:08 p.m.
You didnt speak all d1
7:08 p.m.
;-;
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I opened the chat right
7:08 p.m.
Then i got flashbacks to last game of ngekop rando voting me off
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genesischaos
Then i got flashbacks to last game of ngekop rando voting me off
Tbf it wasnt random
7:09 p.m.
I tr’d everyone but you and lily and lily was mechanically cleared due to host doing something really weird
7:09 p.m.
Aka ending night early when lily wasnt even given the chance to kill
7:09 p.m.
(She was maf)
7:09 p.m.
Anyways
7:09 p.m.
@genesischaos d2 now, thoughts?
7:10 p.m.
Hi abyss
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 7:10 p.m.
Wait... D2
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 7:10 p.m.
Hi
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@genesischaos dont leave Why
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 7:10 p.m.
Right, I forgot
7:10 p.m.
Did he fr just dip again
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 7:11 p.m.
I think he did
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No im still here
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He didnt
7:11 p.m.
W
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 7:11 p.m.
Or not
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I always come back.
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Ngekop
@genesischaos d2 now, thoughts?
^
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 7:11 p.m.
Cool
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genesischaos
I always come back.
Great
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 7:11 p.m.
Anyways I gotta do a couple of things, hold on
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I was laughing at the emoji you sent
7:11 p.m.
Ok but
7:12 p.m.
What do you think of the n1 kill
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N1 kill?
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The person attacked by mafia night 1
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I didnt know anyone was attacked
7:13 p.m.
💀
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No one was
7:13 p.m.
Just tried to give it a shot
7:13 p.m.
Last time you randomly popped in and thought we were on d3
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Not cool man 😦
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Had to try it
7:14 p.m.
Anyways
7:14 p.m.
Now fr and no tests
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genesischaos
Not cool man 😦
You can iso ziel and easyonthehills fully tbh
7:14 p.m.
For the rest uh
7:14 p.m.
Just try to catch up tbh 💀
7:15 p.m.
I think reading from easyonthehills’s readlist is fine
7:15 p.m.
And share thoughts from there pls
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What do you mean iso
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Isolate
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As in theyre not maf?
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As in use the search function
7:15 p.m.
To read their messages
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Oh right
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To filter them out
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Ok i know im not the brightest
7:17 p.m.
But i see comments like "wolfy town vibes" and i have no idea wtf that means
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Oh lmao
7:18 p.m.
Vibes of someone being town role even if acting scummy i think
7:18 p.m.
Not really a term
7:18 p.m.
Just the way she worded it lol
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I dont understand how you can sus people when nothing has happened
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genesischaos
I dont understand how you can sus people when nothing has happened
Discussion
7:18 p.m.
Social deduction
7:18 p.m.
This game has no mechanics after all
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meme_crying @Adam I miss you, I never missed someone so much in my life, every single time I come into chat, I'm like Adam...where is he? I'm now forced to play this mafia game without you and it's been horrible and sad :(
7:19 p.m.
I think wolfy town vibes means Too wolfy to be wolf
7:19 p.m.
Is what she is saying
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I don't believe im wolfy tho so
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Not sure
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Okay is there usually a time of day where everyone is active
7:20 p.m.
I just finished my big exams 💀
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A specific time idts
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I hope u got good scores
7:20 p.m.
nods
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Thx ❤️
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Np ❤️
7:21 p.m.
Just reread ig from
7:21 p.m.
hmm
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Maybe if i sus someone ill say they vented
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Lowkey just reread from the beginning actually
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Okay i will start and let you know what i think in a couple hours
7:22 p.m.
But i reserve the right to make schizo accusations and garbage explanations
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charlie
Lowkey just reread from the beginning actually
4k messages
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Readlist + comments tho would be good
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Is a lot ngl
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He can read, I'm sure he will be fine
7:23 p.m.
we have 24 hours left
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I am literate 😎
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Ziel :D
So my town to scum is Ngekop (✨), Calla, Sunny, Lily, Guillo, genesischaos, EasyOnTheHills/Ane
Like her pocket is p good if it is bc i dont wanna vote her ;-;
7:27 p.m.
Where is keaton when i need him smh
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His birthday is this month nods
7:28 p.m.
Btw calla
7:28 p.m.
Are you still busy?
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Yeah I'm about to head out to dinner, but I'll finish the flavor when I get home
7:28 p.m.
Idk if ur referring to that
7:28 p.m.
Yes and no
7:29 p.m.
I meant to talk with you here lol
7:29 p.m.
But i did say that bc you were busy and i knew bc of the flavor thingy
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UHFIUHWSDIU, yeah ill be home around 9ish I think so, and then we can talk and stuff
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Idk when is 9ish
7:29 p.m.
But uh
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so like a hour and 30
7:29 p.m.
Oh
7:29 p.m.
Kk
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Hi sunny
8:06 p.m.
May i ask what are your current thoughts rn pls
8:07 p.m.
If you could do a cait readlist style it’d be cool
8:07 p.m.
Aka
8:07 p.m.
Town Towniest person 2nd towniest person . . . Scummiest person Mafia
8:08 p.m.
Like piling all the 8 players outside of yourself in that order
8:08 p.m.
@SUNNY!!
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oh okay Town Nge Calla Genesis EOTH Guillo Ane Ziel Lily Mafia my reads are mostly the same, guillo, ziel, ane, and genesis switched up though
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How did i get to the top
8:14 p.m.
Also why is genesis 3rd
8:17 p.m.
Also @Guillo what made you think abyss wasnt a newbie
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i dunno you just ended up at the top since i don't think anyone else seems more townie also i wanted to give them a chance since it seems like they don't have the best idea on what's going on 🤷‍♂️ if they're actually going to backread then ill wait, if they don't then ill start to push genesis down
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But i thought i was giving lots of mixed signals
8:18 p.m.
As in both fair amount of towny AND scummy traits
8:18 p.m.
So idgi
8:19 p.m.
How am i that top
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SUNNY!!
i don't like that emoji please never send that again 😞 i just trust lily less, felt like calla defended better also i hardly trust you more than calla so im not voting w/ you 😒
Ok so by this time fair to say calla went way up
8:26 p.m.
But you at some point said uh
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SUNNY!!
not crazy fancy since i was asleep when you guys were talking but Town Read - Town Lean - EOTH, Guillo: I don't entirely think that Guillo is town, because of things I mentioned earlier in the day during the back and forth between him and nge, but he's been acting more townie now and pushing for reads and stuff. Not sure if he's just switching up now just to escape getting lynched, but I trust him for now. EOTH's readlist, and how he handled the reactions to pretty townie to me!! I think i still need to see more of him though, considering his inactivity at the start. Of course, he hasn't voted Calla or Lily either, so he's not entirely town to me. Null - Nge, Ziel, Other Guy I really cannot tell whether NGE is town or maf right know, since it seems like he's playing for both sides rn. 😭 I brought up the thing where he was trying to quietly imply he was town, saying things like "i can't be mafia because if i was i would do this instead of that" which will never not seem scummy to me. At the same time, most of the stuff he's doing is fairly townie, questioning his own votes and everyone else,, Ziel and Other Guy haven't said a word, unless I missed them. Nothing to go off of 💔 Scum Lean - Lily, Calla Sorry, but I feel like Callahan is trying to blend in with town by making jokes and talking w/ me, saying we're a team and stuff,,, I agree but it's the same thing she did in past games when she was scum, so i can't be sure if it's genuine here either 😞 Her reaction to EOTH's SR was a bit much to me, especially since both her and lily started pushing against EOTH after that. Lily isn't completely Scum to me, but she seems very aligned with Callahan, even asking calla to vote with her and asking people for reads on Callahan specifically Scum Read: none lol
This
8:27 p.m.
What made calla go from top2 scum to top2 town
8:27 p.m.
🧐
8:29 p.m.
The only thing you comment inbetween that is calla defended better than lily
8:29 p.m.
But that’s it
8:30 p.m.
You never mention her doing smth positive to make you change your mind
8:30 p.m.
In that interval
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169754701630287942 it's mainly stuff like this that made me lean more towards town than anything; being more active, answering questions and stuff, and questioning reads like how you are rn like honestly i don't completely think she's town, i just have more suspicions on the people below her, no where else to go and i don't want to have neutral reads when everyone's talked at least a bit 😞
8:36 p.m.
my reads are constantly changing throughout the game, i am so sorry if that becomes an issue 😭
8:37 p.m.
True @Guillo how do you get someone else (someone you havent played with before) being white knight on me from META
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SUNNY!!
my reads are constantly changing throughout the game, i am so sorry if that becomes an issue 😭
Reads changing aint an issue
8:37 p.m.
In fact it’s great bc it indicates progression from you
8:38 p.m.
Just like when it doesnt make sense or is like this drastic then it can look bad or at least weird
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oh yeah yeah i can see that 💔 im just not always firm on my SRs until im confident they've done someone that only scum could do or something 🤷‍♂️
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Well now i gotta wait on guillo
8:41 p.m.
The thing concerning tho is calla was doing that already even before you first sr’d her iirc
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SUNNY!!
i don't like that emoji please never send that again 😞 i just trust lily less, felt like calla defended better also i hardly trust you more than calla so im not voting w/ you 😒
Also this post was before what you sent about her
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yea, but at that time i was still questioning whether or not calla was pocketing me so i SLed them 😞 im still not sure but im ruling that out for now so i put her higher up
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SUNNY!!
oh okay Town Nge Calla Genesis EOTH Guillo Ane Ziel Lily Mafia my reads are mostly the same, guillo, ziel, ane, and genesis switched up though
When did you learn how to do this read list
8:44 p.m.
I never taught u that, nor do I think u were in any games were people did that
8:45 p.m.
where
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i don't know it just popped outta nowhere
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okay icic
8:45 p.m.
nods
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britneyjean Omg how are your guys day today
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charlie
When did you learn how to do this read list
I literally just asked him to
8:53 p.m.
yes
8:53 p.m.
I mean yeah sorry
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 8:53 p.m.
8:53 p.m.
the jumpscare
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EasyOnTheHills 2023-11-02 8:53 p.m.
I'm gonna have a lot to read through when I get home...
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Anyways
8:55 p.m.
@genesischaos how’s it going
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SUNNY!!
oh okay Town Nge Calla Genesis EOTH Guillo Ane Ziel Lily Mafia my reads are mostly the same, guillo, ziel, ane, and genesis switched up though
why am i at the bottom of your reads list?
9:04 p.m.
also i got a few pings ill reply to them when i have time
9:04 p.m.
been doing stuff today
9:04 p.m.
and napped
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mgnh you're just the one i sus the most out of everyone here 🤷‍♂️
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alright so why
9:08 p.m.
let's go over it
9:09 p.m.
although i might reply slowly
9:09 p.m.
what about my is sus?
9:09 p.m.
me*
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169629508672962682 some of these reads changed but the one on you hasn't really changed since i haven't seen you say any like actually reads or anything after EOTH posted his also stuff like this is just really strange to me,,, i think nge made a good point there and saying that makes it look like that you just gave up defending there https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169659501931151420
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Ok here is my unsubstantiated schizo post: Order of people I’m sussing after reading messages from specific people Easyonthehills: posted some kinda based memes, sounds like he’s high IQ making long posts and putting thoughts into them, probably town. Anemoia: Kind of talks like me and posts effortful but short msgs. Lilypetal: Getting targeted with Callahan which is interesting considering she was actually being assertive – so I’m sus of the people pushing her. Callahan: Has a similar speech style to Ziel but actually talks more about the game, seems to be friends with Ngekop Guillo: More aggressive than EOTH which is a good sign, but susses Callahan which I disagree with Ngekop: Don’t know how to read this guy, but his speech is very game oriented. Seems to think he’ll be targeted, which I’m sus is a high IQ strat because I know he is quite experienced. SUNNY!!: Doesn’t sus me and is posting effortful messages about the game. However from my experience playing ToS typically accusers are townies so people that don’t sus others are more likely to be evil. Also posted a reaction image to Lily getting sussed rather than offering any real input and then said he didn’t read it. But came up with a long post after so maybe I'm wrong. Ziel: Populating the chat with very short answers full of useless text, and suggested I was scum – I find this sus, but maybe that’s just her personality? (edited)
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genesischaos
Ok here is my unsubstantiated schizo post: Order of people I’m sussing after reading messages from specific people Easyonthehills: posted some kinda based memes, sounds like he’s high IQ making long posts and putting thoughts into them, probably town. Anemoia: Kind of talks like me and posts effortful but short msgs. Lilypetal: Getting targeted with Callahan which is interesting considering she was actually being assertive – so I’m sus of the people pushing her. Callahan: Has a similar speech style to Ziel but actually talks more about the game, seems to be friends with Ngekop Guillo: More aggressive than EOTH which is a good sign, but susses Callahan which I disagree with Ngekop: Don’t know how to read this guy, but his speech is very game oriented. Seems to think he’ll be targeted, which I’m sus is a high IQ strat because I know he is quite experienced. SUNNY!!: Doesn’t sus me and is posting effortful messages about the game. However from my experience playing ToS typically accusers are townies so people that don’t sus others are more likely to be evil. Also posted a reaction image to Lily getting sussed rather than offering any real input and then said he didn’t read it. But came up with a long post after so maybe I'm wrong. Ziel: Populating the chat with very short answers full of useless text, and suggested I was scum – I find this sus, but maybe that’s just her personality? (edited)
i what do u mean similar speech style to ziel 😭
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very short answers but yours were more relevant
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Oh yeah i
9:17 p.m.
I press entered a lot of the times idkw hy
9:17 p.m.
why
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I'm not even really sure if its a reassuring sign or not, I just associate shorter messages with less involvement in the game because you presumably already know who is evil
9:18 p.m.
amateur psychology moment
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Nah but im narrowing it down now
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I find it interesting though that ngekop kinda predicted I would be partners with EOTH. He comes across as entirely town but I don't know how he picked this
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I was assuming poe?
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SUNNY!!
https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169629508672962682 some of these reads changed but the one on you hasn't really changed since i haven't seen you say any like actually reads or anything after EOTH posted his also stuff like this is just really strange to me,,, i think nge made a good point there and saying that makes it look like that you just gave up defending there https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169659501931151420
Wait did i ever say that 💀
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poe?
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Ngekop
Wait did i ever say that 💀
say wat
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genesischaos
poe?
Process of elimination, usually when u have a bunch of town reads like a towncore and u just put nulls and scum reads together and vote them out
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i guess that's valid but don't you tr calla now
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Oh fair enough
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your SR hinged a lot on SRing calla too
9:21 p.m.
kinda sheeped guillo there
9:21 p.m.
why do you still SR me now that calla is higher?
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how was i sheeping guillo?
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genesischaos
Ok here is my unsubstantiated schizo post: Order of people I’m sussing after reading messages from specific people Easyonthehills: posted some kinda based memes, sounds like he’s high IQ making long posts and putting thoughts into them, probably town. Anemoia: Kind of talks like me and posts effortful but short msgs. Lilypetal: Getting targeted with Callahan which is interesting considering she was actually being assertive – so I’m sus of the people pushing her. Callahan: Has a similar speech style to Ziel but actually talks more about the game, seems to be friends with Ngekop Guillo: More aggressive than EOTH which is a good sign, but susses Callahan which I disagree with Ngekop: Don’t know how to read this guy, but his speech is very game oriented. Seems to think he’ll be targeted, which I’m sus is a high IQ strat because I know he is quite experienced. SUNNY!!: Doesn’t sus me and is posting effortful messages about the game. However from my experience playing ToS typically accusers are townies so people that don’t sus others are more likely to be evil. Also posted a reaction image to Lily getting sussed rather than offering any real input and then said he didn’t read it. But came up with a long post after so maybe I'm wrong. Ziel: Populating the chat with very short answers full of useless text, and suggested I was scum – I find this sus, but maybe that’s just her personality? (edited)
You cant edit messages btw
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I deleted an extra line because it wasn't aesthetic
9:22 p.m.
sorry
9:23 p.m.
I didn't change the content of what i said
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genesischaos
I find it interesting though that ngekop kinda predicted I would be partners with EOTH. He comes across as entirely town but I don't know how he picked this
Wait where did i say that
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SUNNY!!
say wat
That it was lily giving up on defending there
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Ngekop
Wait where did i say that
"Genesis/eoth most likely ziel partners if she is scum"
9:25 p.m.
Which upon rereading actually sounds like youre saying either of us is aligned with Ziel, but still correlates us
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Ngekop
That it was lily giving up on defending there
you didn't say that, that's just how i felt she was acting the message is written as if she couldn't figure out what to say, and just gave up 💔
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genesischaos
"Genesis/eoth most likely ziel partners if she is scum"
I said you could be ziel’s partner here
9:28 p.m.
Never said you and eoth
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genesischaos
Which upon rereading actually sounds like youre saying either of us is aligned with Ziel, but still correlates us
Indeed
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I take back what I said earlier about being literate then
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lilypetal
your SR hinged a lot on SRing calla too
scum LEAN also, i still sl you because while i think calla is acting more townie now, I still think it's a little weird why you specifically asked callahan to vote w/ you, asked for reads on her specially and stuff. it's the same reasoning as above, but now i feel you could just be trying to act like you're partners with calla 😭 why would you ask callahan to vote with you? or ask for reads on her? also where your scum reads at 😒
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SUNNY!!
https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169629508672962682 some of these reads changed but the one on you hasn't really changed since i haven't seen you say any like actually reads or anything after EOTH posted his also stuff like this is just really strange to me,,, i think nge made a good point there and saying that makes it look like that you just gave up defending there https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169659501931151420
Ohh i misread this
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 9:41 p.m.
Heya
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SUNNY!!
scum LEAN also, i still sl you because while i think calla is acting more townie now, I still think it's a little weird why you specifically asked callahan to vote w/ you, asked for reads on her specially and stuff. it's the same reasoning as above, but now i feel you could just be trying to act like you're partners with calla 😭 why would you ask callahan to vote with you? or ask for reads on her? also where your scum reads at 😒
So
9:42 p.m.
Imma let lily answer to this but
9:43 p.m.
Imo it is just good how it is
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SUNNY!!
scum LEAN also, i still sl you because while i think calla is acting more townie now, I still think it's a little weird why you specifically asked callahan to vote w/ you, asked for reads on her specially and stuff. it's the same reasoning as above, but now i feel you could just be trying to act like you're partners with calla 😭 why would you ask callahan to vote with you? or ask for reads on her? also where your scum reads at 😒
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 9:47 p.m.
Well one of the SLs that Lily has is me, idk what the others are
9:47 p.m.
One is you
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 9:49 p.m.
Although I'm pretty sure I'm one for most people here thh
9:50 p.m.
Which isn't preferable
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One is you
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 9:50 p.m.
Do you know why Gullio tr's me? I don't know why he is based off of the good evidence that everyone else brings up of me being scum
9:51 p.m.
Meanwhile I don't think there's too much making me towny
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SUNNY!!
scum LEAN also, i still sl you because while i think calla is acting more townie now, I still think it's a little weird why you specifically asked callahan to vote w/ you, asked for reads on her specially and stuff. it's the same reasoning as above, but now i feel you could just be trying to act like you're partners with calla 😭 why would you ask callahan to vote with you? or ask for reads on her? also where your scum reads at 😒
Asking for your townreads to vote with you isn't really weird. Maybe a community difference lol
9:52 p.m.
It's not acting partnered, it's working together
9:52 p.m.
Although guillo has made that same read and plays on MU so idk lol
9:52 p.m.
skill issue or something
9:52 p.m.
Also yeah as I've stated I have srs on ane and eoth
9:53 p.m.
i haven't read ane's recent posts so that read is a bit old but the last posts I read from eoth just felt grimy
9:53 p.m.
so still scum reading there
9:53 p.m.
its 48 hours so im not too pressed, ill put a proper reads list later
9:53 p.m.
I think your reasons for scum reading me are fine and I trust you'll course correct soon
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Anemoia/Abyss
Do you know why Gullio tr's me? I don't know why he is based off of the good evidence that everyone else brings up of me being scum
Idk ask him ig
9:54 p.m.
Ig i can have an idea
9:54 p.m.
But he should answer that
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lilypetal
i haven't read ane's recent posts so that read is a bit old but the last posts I read from eoth just felt grimy
What’s grimy
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EasyOnTheHills
Anyways I am more and more convinced it is Callahan + Lily as this goes on, their reactions to my "bad reads" are not townie, they are incredibly defensive, which makes no sense considering I hardly pushed the reads nor did I even push for a vote on either of them. Really starting to think I found the scumteam and they just started freaking out cause they got caught early on. Like you can't say my reads are bad, but then say you have to worry because I made them, if they were really that bad they would hold no merit and the rest of town would move on, maybe perhaps they weren't bad in the first place and that is why you want to try so hard to discredit them... Again I haven't even pushed Callahan or Lily to be voted, all I did was simply post my current thoughts on the game so far at that point, and this has turned into them devolving into a OMGUS onto me somehow
9:58 p.m.
oh
9:58 p.m.
i replied to it
9:58 p.m.
OOPS LMAO
9:58 p.m.
im not used to discord
9:59 p.m.
basically this message felt grimy
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EasyOnTheHills
Anyways I am more and more convinced it is Callahan + Lily as this goes on, their reactions to my "bad reads" are not townie, they are incredibly defensive, which makes no sense considering I hardly pushed the reads nor did I even push for a vote on either of them. Really starting to think I found the scumteam and they just started freaking out cause they got caught early on. Like you can't say my reads are bad, but then say you have to worry because I made them, if they were really that bad they would hold no merit and the rest of town would move on, maybe perhaps they weren't bad in the first place and that is why you want to try so hard to discredit them... Again I haven't even pushed Callahan or Lily to be voted, all I did was simply post my current thoughts on the game so far at that point, and this has turned into them devolving into a OMGUS onto me somehow
Okay in fairness I did say I regard EOTH as most likely town but I disagree with the conclusion here
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The idea we were "freaking out because we got caught" is just not an authentic thought lol
10:00 p.m.
this also felt REALLY inauthentic like
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lilypetal
basically this message felt grimy
Ok but
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oh yeah im just lurking 24/7
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What does grimy mean
10:00 p.m.
💀
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basically means bad faith
10:00 p.m.
lol
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can you show me where he thinks you are "freaking out"
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because from what i read earlier you were not even that defensive
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Well i’ll try to go off from what i got
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genesischaos
can you show me where he thinks you are "freaking out"
seems like a question for him
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well see what he says, i just hope his messages are easyontheeyes
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genesischaos
Ok here is my unsubstantiated schizo post: Order of people I’m sussing after reading messages from specific people Easyonthehills: posted some kinda based memes, sounds like he’s high IQ making long posts and putting thoughts into them, probably town. Anemoia: Kind of talks like me and posts effortful but short msgs. Lilypetal: Getting targeted with Callahan which is interesting considering she was actually being assertive – so I’m sus of the people pushing her. Callahan: Has a similar speech style to Ziel but actually talks more about the game, seems to be friends with Ngekop Guillo: More aggressive than EOTH which is a good sign, but susses Callahan which I disagree with Ngekop: Don’t know how to read this guy, but his speech is very game oriented. Seems to think he’ll be targeted, which I’m sus is a high IQ strat because I know he is quite experienced. SUNNY!!: Doesn’t sus me and is posting effortful messages about the game. However from my experience playing ToS typically accusers are townies so people that don’t sus others are more likely to be evil. Also posted a reaction image to Lily getting sussed rather than offering any real input and then said he didn’t read it. But came up with a long post after so maybe I'm wrong. Ziel: Populating the chat with very short answers full of useless text, and suggested I was scum – I find this sus, but maybe that’s just her personality? (edited)
Brb
10:05 p.m.
Oh sorry ping
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me when i think someone wants to talk to me about my schizophrenic allegations sevienne but they actually dont Why
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genesischaos
me when i think someone wants to talk to me about my schizophrenic allegations sevienne but they actually dont Why
Uh
10:08 p.m.
Im glad you are more active now
10:08 p.m.
Like way more glad
10:08 p.m.
Anyways i tried to read into teams and this is what i got into
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Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Guillo/ziel Guillo/sunny Lily/ziel Lily/sunny Abyss/genesis Abyss/eoth Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/eoth
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Calla: 2 Guillo: 2 Lily: 2 Abyss: 2 Ziel: 5 Genesis: 4 Sunny: 2 Eoth: 3
10:09 p.m.
Possible partners for each^
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Could u explain why I might be partners with ziel and genesis
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Ngekop
Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Guillo/ziel Guillo/sunny Lily/ziel Lily/sunny Abyss/genesis Abyss/eoth Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/eoth
Ofc you can include all the 8 i could be in
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charlie
Could u explain why I might be partners with ziel and genesis
Why not
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Oh its just like random pairing
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Idt you are partners with anyone who has talked
10:09 p.m.
Before
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To be fair I haven't really spoken to Abyss
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Idt you are with lily for reasons already stated
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I’ll eat my socks if you and guillo end up being both mafias
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charlie
Could u explain why I might be partners with ziel and genesis
when callahan doesn't want to be my friend Why
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I stated idt you/abyss/sunny has more than one
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sorry i love that emoji too much
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actually im partners with sunny fr
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Idt eqsy pushes you and you react that defensively about it
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genesischaos
when callahan doesn't want to be my friend Why
IWFUHYEI&YFH😭
10:10 p.m.
no no
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charlie
actually im partners with sunny fr
That’s
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ur cool
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The one im unsure about
10:10 p.m.
FuckYou
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charlie
ur cool
🍨
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Literally
10:11 p.m.
My previous cut
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yeah i would say me and sunny go way back
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Before that one
10:11 p.m.
Was this
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Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Calla/sunny Guillo/ziel Guillo/genesis Guillo/sunny Guillo/eoth Lily/ziel Lily/genesis Lily/sunny Abyss/genesis Abyss/eoth Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/sunny Genesis/eoth Sunny/eoth
10:11 p.m.
;-;
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see you would think the sun and hills go together right
10:11 p.m.
so i agree with the last pair
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Ngekop
Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Calla/sunny Guillo/ziel Guillo/genesis Guillo/sunny Guillo/eoth Lily/ziel Lily/genesis Lily/sunny Abyss/genesis Abyss/eoth Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/sunny Genesis/eoth Sunny/eoth
Here i removed those i could bet on not being it
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Lowkey pair me with eoth
10:12 p.m.
Not as scum pair at least
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We could be scum distancing ourselves since he actually never even voted me
10:12 p.m.
and has poor reasons
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Yes i know
10:12 p.m.
But the way you reacted
10:12 p.m.
To his sr on you
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why did guillo vote nge btw
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😔 u dont think its in my scum range to do that?
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Is too over the line for what i would see as MvM
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genesischaos
why did guillo vote nge btw
Sticker
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charlie
😔 u dont think its in my scum range to do that?
I think it is but idt you did
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Pretty sure his first vote on nge was bc he felt like nge was putting on a performance and the second vote something to do with ziel
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And now that you pointed it out as SECOND (bc you said you/sunny first as in a pair i could include)
10:13 p.m.
P sure you arent with him
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charlie
Pretty sure his first vote on nge was bc he felt like nge was putting on a performance and the second vote something to do with ziel
Tru
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charlie
:(
Why the sad face wtf
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me and sunny ❤️
10:14 p.m.
fr
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Either im just right or you have fooled me and might win
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maybe
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Ngekop
Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Guillo/ziel Guillo/sunny Lily/ziel Lily/sunny Abyss/genesis Abyss/eoth Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/eoth
Anyways it came down to this for me
10:14 p.m.
Wdyt
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there's a lot of pairs there that make sense (including the ones with me in them) but some others I have no clue nge
10:16 p.m.
You can help narrow it down
10:16 p.m.
Oooor you can point out one that is missing and we can argue about it
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okay ill keep your post in mind and come back to it when i have some more susses/information
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genesischaos
To be fair I haven't really spoken to Abyss
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:18 p.m.
Howdy
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greetings
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:19 p.m.
So... We finally meet
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Ngekop
Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Guillo/ziel Guillo/sunny Lily/ziel Lily/sunny Abyss/genesis Abyss/eoth Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/eoth
@charlie @lilypetal wdyt
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why did ziel and calla vote you anemoia
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:19 p.m.
Anyways
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genesischaos
why did ziel and calla vote you anemoia
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:20 p.m.
I guess they have the best answer to that
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Ofc i prioritize teams than dont include yourself btw
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:20 p.m.
I don't know the full extent of why
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As in for discussion
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also nge voted me 😦
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:20 p.m.
Except that Calla felt like I was overdoing it at one time
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genesischaos
also nge voted me 😦
Oh true
10:20 p.m.
I might remove it
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:20 p.m.
That's my answer at leafy
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Idk who to vote tho
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:20 p.m.
Least*
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Idk who to vote tho
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:21 p.m.
Me (jkjk)
10:21 p.m.
Calla is doing a BIG post
10:21 p.m.
I can tell
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my kinda susses on sunny and ziel aren't well substantiated so i dont blame you
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genesischaos
my kinda susses on sunny and ziel aren't well substantiated so i dont blame you
I had to take your big post into account lol
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Ngekop
@charlie @lilypetal wdyt
Yeah, I'm confused on Guillo and Ziel I would have put Guillo/Abyss, maybe? Lily and Sunny is odd A lot of these don't really make sense to me i'm ngl 😭
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I removed you/lily based on that
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charlie
Yeah, I'm confused on Guillo and Ziel I would have put Guillo/Abyss, maybe? Lily and Sunny is odd A lot of these don't really make sense to me i'm ngl 😭
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:22 p.m.
Me and Gullio? Interesting
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charlie
Yeah, I'm confused on Guillo and Ziel I would have put Guillo/Abyss, maybe? Lily and Sunny is odd A lot of these don't really make sense to me i'm ngl 😭
So
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Ngekop
I had to take your big post into account lol
thanks for reading it at least haha
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:22 p.m.
I fear that guy tho
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The reason why i didnt include guillo/abyss
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did u just say so? when u asked for my opinions
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Is bc the meta he said is true
10:22 p.m.
+
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I feel like
10:22 p.m.
Guillo thinking abyss wasnt a newbie
10:23 p.m.
Was genuine
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And i think he wouldnt think that
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I dont even remember that im ngl
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If they were sharing scum chat for that time by then
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:23 p.m.
Yeah I haven't been on the server for that long- idk why he thought I wasn't a newbie-
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Guillo
What questionable posts does Anemoia have? (He is not a newbie) Not wrong on Lily fading away after her entrance but she fades away as both town and scum, but townie thought if you havent met lily before. What does her progression on Callahan have anything to do with Anemoia though? Please can you point out the posts you felt were forced from Callahan?
@charlie
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:23 p.m.
Oh y'know, just my (little, like very little) ToS experience
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then i feel like if ur using that same logic with abyss
10:24 p.m.
sunny and gullio shouldnt be paired either
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I played ToS2 a lot when it came out
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bc gullio kept asking sunny how many games they played
10:24 p.m.
And sunny kept joking
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charlie
sunny and gullio shouldnt be paired either
Not really bc guillo just asked sunny for their experience
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Anemoia/Abyss
Oh y'know, just my (little, like very little) ToS experience
i always wanted to play in a discord lobby but impossible to find 15 ppl
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Which can easily be faked
10:24 p.m.
Since he’s asked plenty of ppl about it
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genesischaos
i always wanted to play in a discord lobby but impossible to find 15 ppl
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:24 p.m.
Ic
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hmm okay okay
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But with abyss he assumed it
10:24 p.m.
And i asked him why but i think i know the reason
10:25 p.m.
Which puts more weight into that
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:25 p.m.
I feel honored by that though, even though it was wrong
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Anemoia/Abyss
Ic
huh
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genesischaos
huh
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:25 p.m.
It was just me confirming I saw that
10:25 p.m.
It could've sounded rude if I just did, "ok"
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alrighty then
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:26 p.m.
👍
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charlie
Yeah, I'm confused on Guillo and Ziel I would have put Guillo/Abyss, maybe? Lily and Sunny is odd A lot of these don't really make sense to me i'm ngl 😭
Guillo/ziel bc ziel’s elaboration on guillo was weak imo
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Ngekop
@charlie @lilypetal wdyt
what does this mean
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And guillo bringing attention on ziel the way he did is imo 100% in his scum range
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Ngekop
Not really bc guillo just asked sunny for their experience
other than you who else is very experienced here
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lilypetal
what does this mean
Those are my narrowed down list of possible teams
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genesischaos
other than you who else is very experienced here
Guillo
10:27 p.m.
Lily
10:27 p.m.
Calla is p good
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Uh
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team building feels weird not something i can do day 1 lol
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Idk if eoth
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lilypetal
team building feels weird not something i can do day 1 lol
Iiiii agree
10:27 p.m.
That’s me usually
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:27 p.m.
Gullio I'm sure is extremely experienced
10:27 p.m.
Gullio gives that vibe
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But this game particularly and with imo not anyone being particularly scummy and many people being mostly towny
10:27 p.m.
I felt like i could do that
10:28 p.m.
Aka narrow down possible partners for everyone
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Ngekop
Idk if eoth
i guess you could say he is easyonthegameplay
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lilypetal
team building feels weird not something i can do day 1 lol
Still it could help if you see one that you think can easily be removed
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:28 p.m.
So you think Genesis(cool name btw) and EOTH could be paired with me? I'm guessing partly it's because we haven't really talked to each other or smth?
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Yep and bc idt you can be paired with everyone else
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:29 p.m.
Cool
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Anemoia/Abyss
So you think Genesis(cool name btw) and EOTH could be paired with me? I'm guessing partly it's because we haven't really talked to each other or smth?
thanks abyss your name is pretty shocked too
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Given the additional attention they’ve brought up on you
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So for instance
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Given my list
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genesischaos
thanks abyss your name is pretty shocked too
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:29 p.m.
Thanks :>
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If ziel and gen flip town
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:29 p.m.
Anyhow
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Either it’s abyss/eoth
10:30 p.m.
Or
10:30 p.m.
Sunny+guillo/lily
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:30 p.m.
Icic
10:30 p.m.
How confident are you with that?
10:30 p.m.
Also Nge, who would you like to keep in today?
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oh ic = i see
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:30 p.m.
Or ig for tmw
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genesischaos
oh ic = i see
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:30 p.m.
Yep!
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im slow Why
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:31 p.m.
It's fine lol dw
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Anemoia/Abyss
Also Nge, who would you like to keep in today?
Wdym
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Ngekop
If ziel and gen flip town
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:31 p.m.
What does Ziel have to do with this?
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Ngekop
Wdym
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:31 p.m.
Who would you like not to get lynched
10:32 p.m.
So far
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i forgot that ziel sussed my boi easyontheaccusations
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:33 p.m.
waits
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Anemoia/Abyss
What does Ziel have to do with this?
Many possible partners
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:33 p.m.
Ic
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Anemoia/Abyss
Who would you like not to get lynched
Today?
10:33 p.m.
Uh
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Me
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:33 p.m.
waits
10:33 p.m.
Lily
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:33 p.m.
Just 3 people?
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Im thinking
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Ziel :D
  • EasyOnTheHills (Wolf Lean)
    • Uhh... I don't believe EOTH's reads are accurate... I don't think their reads count as wolfy,,,
    • Their reads make sense. I don't think 100% accurate, but makes sense... I need to read onto it later on.
    • That reaction to their (Calla and Lily's) reactions was not towny. In my opinion, it's normal they'd be defensive if they have the right to defend themselves (both are my town reads as well)... 78% wolfy, 22% towny.
i trust his calls tbh but again im not sure if she's pulling a high IQ strat
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:33 p.m.
K
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Realistically speaking
10:34 p.m.
Guillo doesnt go today
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ngekop scheming to kill me sevienne
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:34 p.m.
I agree, I don't think it's possible for Gullio to go today, even if some people sr him
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In the remaining 5 idrc except idt sunny goes today either
10:34 p.m.
Given he is generally tr’d
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:34 p.m.
Actually I see that with all of the experienced players
10:34 p.m.
I don't think any of them are getting out
10:35 p.m.
Today
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Anemoia/Abyss
Actually I see that with all of the experienced players
It does be like that at times :/
10:35 p.m.
I mean im ngl i dont sl lily or calla really
10:35 p.m.
Like i just dont
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Ngekop
It does be like that at times :/
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:35 p.m.
So sad 😭 (theatrics) I'm not as experienced
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Ngekop
Like i just dont
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:36 p.m.
Last time I checked you didn't have anyone as scum, do you have any now?
10:36 p.m.
That’s why i turned into partnerships
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Anemoia/Abyss
Last time I checked you didn't have anyone as scum, do you have any now?
Ziel possibly :(
10:36 p.m.
But
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genesischaos
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:36 p.m.
Diagnosis: Idc(half lying)
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I really dont want her to be scum
10:36 p.m.
And she is pleasant af to have here
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Ngekop
That’s why i turned into partnerships
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:37 p.m.
Ohhhh ic now
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im gonna go for now but i will be back later
10:37 p.m.
ill periodically read whats going on
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Wbu @Anemoia/Abyss
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:38 p.m.
Abouttttttt?
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genesischaos
im gonna go for now but i will be back later
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:38 p.m.
Byeeeeeee
10:38 p.m.
About what Nge?
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I do think guillo/ziel might just not be it
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:38 p.m.
(not in a rude manner)
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Anemoia/Abyss
About what Nge?
Your reads
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:38 p.m.
Ouchies
10:39 p.m.
I haven't made a read list so I haven't been keeping track of them
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Wait true
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:39 p.m.
Off the top of my head, you're Null, so is Genesis
10:39 p.m.
Uhhh
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@lilypetal wdyt
10:39 p.m.
About ziel’s list
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:40 p.m.
Like- Calla and Lily I don't know anymore, they're complex imo
10:40 p.m.
Who else is there...
10:40 p.m.
Ziel is weird, the read on you is not that good, and there is a lot of fluff, but I don't think that's scum or town behavior
10:40 p.m.
It could be though
10:41 p.m.
Sunny seemed genuine at the start but I haven't read into them in a while, but at the start they were Towny to me
10:42 p.m.
Myself? Town 🙂
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Ngekop
About ziel’s list
where
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Ziel :D
## PLAYERS:
Here
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the part about me is really weird lol
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:43 p.m.
I just need to read into people more, but like I'd like to think that you're town Nge, and I really hope you are- You're like- very close to null now that I think about it, you're always very towny. You're progressing the game and always ask questions and such, but you probably could easily do it as scum too Very slightly town lean
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kinda based reads
10:44 p.m.
tbh
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lilypetal
kinda based reads
The reasonings tho
10:44 p.m.
Her hardest town lean is me
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:44 p.m.
I need to read into EOTH's read list
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And the reasons are indeed bad imo
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agrees with me so
10:44 p.m.
good
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:44 p.m.
That's like the main EOTH thing
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The only AI thing she said of me
10:44 p.m.
Was the n1 kill comments
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:45 p.m.
I think that's it
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Yeah
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lilypetal
agrees with me so
So?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:45 p.m.
Lily and Callahan are just so... Complicated tbh
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Im not saying what do you think of her accuracy
10:45 p.m.
Im asking what do you think of her
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:46 p.m.
Sorry for not having any good reads Nge-
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Anemoia/Abyss
Lily and Callahan are just so... Complicated tbh
how so?
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Anemoia/Abyss
Sorry for not having any good reads Nge-
Dont be
10:46 p.m.
They arent bad
10:46 p.m.
And i appreciate the effort
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Ngekop
So?
if im correct then they're either distancing or also a correct town
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therefore i shouldn't worry abt them
10:46 p.m.
the reasonings seemed good
10:47 p.m.
post was formatted well and i liked the vibe
10:47 p.m.
i dig it
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lilypetal
the reasonings seemed good
i-
10:47 p.m.
The one on me seemed good?
10:47 p.m.
the SRs
10:47 p.m.
She labeled me as hard town lean (only one btw) with THAT reasoning
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lilypetal
how so?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:47 p.m.
A lot has happened with you two, that's all, I need to look into you two the most, because there was the "overreaction" thing, then idk what you two read each other as, but y'all got a lot of action happening
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Which imo 100% is either scum pocket or town with a personal bias (in which case ily ziel)
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:48 p.m.
Are you talking about Ziels read on you?
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I dont want abyss today sorry
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Anemoia/Abyss
Are you talking about Ziels read on you?
Yes
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Anemoia/Abyss
A lot has happened with you two, that's all, I need to look into you two the most, because there was the "overreaction" thing, then idk what you two read each other as, but y'all got a lot of action happening
im kinda sick thats true
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:49 p.m.
Y or N, because I definitely have a strong opinion on it
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Ngekop
Yes
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:49 p.m.
Ok
10:50 p.m.
That read on you is... Horrible, I wouldn't even trust it to be accurate or even contribute it to anything I do. It's so feelzy and y'all had a massive fluff thing that idek what to think of, actually I do. Filler imo.
10:51 p.m.
Therefore, I think it's a bad read, and I won't even put a nice filter on it
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lilypetal
im kinda sick thats true
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:51 p.m.
So sick that I don't know what to think atm
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Anemoia/Abyss
That read on you is... Horrible, I wouldn't even trust it to be accurate or even contribute it to anything I do. It's so feelzy and y'all had a massive fluff thing that idek what to think of, actually I do. Filler imo.
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:52 p.m.
That's like the thing I'm most confident on here
10:52 p.m.
For this entire game
10:52 p.m.
Ok I'll stop talking about it now
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@charlie can you unvote him pls
10:52 p.m.
shy
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:52 p.m.
Sorry Ziel :>
10:52 p.m.
Wha-
10:53 p.m.
Also what's Ziel's reason on voting me?
10:53 p.m.
I know it's somewhere but there has been a lot of msgs
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Unless smth unexpected happens today’s lynch always is in lily/abyss/genesis/ziel/eoth
10:54 p.m.
And i dont want it to be either of the first 2
10:54 p.m.
Not today at least
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Anemoia/Abyss
I know it's somewhere but there has been a lot of msgs
You can read her list
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Ziel :D
## PLAYERS:
^^
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:56 p.m.
Ohhhh
10:56 p.m.
Ok!
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Ziel/genesis/eoth is a fine poe for d1 imo
10:57 p.m.
I dont want either out tho 😭
10:58 p.m.
I love everyone in here i dont want anyone out
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Ziel :D
  • Anemoia[>>>Abyss] (Wolf Lean)
    • The freezing (yet no, I don't have much to say about that) but most especially that between Calla which does not at all make up a conversation between two town-aligned players. In which Ane seems the wolfier.
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:58 p.m.
Freezing? Oof Also I forgot why that interaction between me and Calla was not two towns talking
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I just said i felt it wasnt two CITS talking
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Ngekop
I love everyone in here i dont want anyone out
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:58 p.m.
Then we get everyone out! /J
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And she agreed
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:58 p.m.
OH
10:59 p.m.
Wait- just agreed with you? Nothing else, no evidence of analysis?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 10:59 p.m.
Hmmmm
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Ngekop
Ziel/genesis/eoth is a fine poe for d1 imo
Lol ironically the 3 people who werent talking at first
11:01 p.m.
I didnt end up being able to move out from there huh
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 11:02 p.m.
Nuh-uh
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-02 11:10 p.m.
Nge has died R.I.P. XXXX-2023
11:16 p.m.
Don't worry guys! I can revive him!
11:49 p.m.
Wdym i died
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 12:08 a.m.
He's back!
12:08 a.m.
I was just joking because I was waiting for you to say more
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There was not much more for me to add
12:09 a.m.
Not yet at least
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 12:13 a.m.
Ok
12:13 a.m.
So are we going to leave it like this orrrr?
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Where did guillo and calla go
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 12:13 a.m.
Do you like the game state as it is?
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Anemoia/Abyss
So are we going to leave it like this orrrr?
I hope people come back
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Ngekop
Where did guillo and calla go
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 12:14 a.m.
Idk
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Ngekop
I hope people come back
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 12:14 a.m.
Me twice
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I hope we can decide on a lynch like 5-6 hours before eod
12:14 a.m.
So we can let them claim
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 12:15 a.m.
Agreed
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Im impressed with scum’s performance so far ngl (especially if they are with calla/sunny/guillo)
12:33 a.m.
Dont get me wrong btw
12:33 a.m.
They can perfectly be scum
12:33 a.m.
But if they are im impressed with their performance
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pingu
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Ngekop
Ziel/genesis/eoth is a fine poe for d1 imo
there it is
12:45 a.m.
its the classic ngekop: lets accuse genesis after a certain period of time has elapsed
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genesischaos
its the classic ngekop: lets accuse genesis after a certain period of time has elapsed
Are you serious
12:50 a.m.
Im having you in poe
12:50 a.m.
Not even accusing you
12:51 a.m.
And last time it was due to a borderline host error
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Ngekop
Not even accusing you
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 1:16 a.m.
^^^^^
1:17 a.m.
Also Nge doesn't even sr you either
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@Ziel :D i need you to elaborate way more on why i am 75% town to you here
1:25 a.m.
You said i was a great scum so idk how do i get there so easily to you
1:26 a.m.
Wouldnt you be more wary of me instead?
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I am trusting my gut +the odds
1:57 a.m.
What are the odds
1:57 a.m.
I trust Nge is town
1:57 a.m.
The feels
1:57 a.m.
If you're scum…
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Okay.
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Ziel :D
What are the odds
i-
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Is the reason im 75% there legit just odds
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Guillo
@lilypetal up until this point ive been accepting you treating me like im your mason, cause the idea of baiting the kill for the whoever the real masons are gives me purpose, but i dont like your reaction to EOTH and how you dont see that Calla's reaction to him are overblown and aggressively OMGUSy, so im gonna state that if i was a mason, my mason would not be Lilypetal and disassociate myself from you.
I want to say that I really dislike this post. I was never treating you like that, and in fact my play obviously showed that early day 1 as I was actively solving your slot. Rest idc abt but the weird mech stuff needs to be pointed out
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Guillo
Every post? Why the lol?
Also I type lol a lot
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:15 a.m.
I forgot Mason's exist
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Ngekop
Is that what you wanted?
What you mean if that is what i wanted? You say it like you dont really believe it and are telling me it to somewhat make me happy, that is not how it works.
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Ngekop
Ziel even asked me for permission to out a sl on me that game and hesitated on doing so
Hmmm ok.
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genesischaos
I dont understand how you can sus people when nothing has happened
Are you a ToS player?
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SUNNY!!
oh okay Town Nge Calla Genesis EOTH Guillo Ane Ziel Lily Mafia my reads are mostly the same, guillo, ziel, ane, and genesis switched up though
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Ngekop
Also @Guillo what made you think abyss wasnt a newbie
By the way he played in Marvel game
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Ngekop
True @Guillo how do you get someone else (someone you havent played with before) being white knight on me from META
What you mean?
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Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
Or she was trying to reach minimum post count with short repeated messages, maybe.
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Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
These are all surface level reads as well but knowing you are a ToS player, it makes sense
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Anemoia/Abyss
I forgot Mason's exist
i-
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Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
My biggest question is why you have me as null when you allegedly mindmelded with me on lily/calla, from your point of view i should your toppest town. Is it because i have you in my scum leans myself?
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Guillo
I dont have perms to see the post history of this
Wat
2:56 a.m.
How
2:57 a.m.
Bro get the archivist role
2:57 a.m.
No
2:57 a.m.
Not the archivist
2:57 a.m.
The archives*
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Guillo
What you mean if that is what i wanted? You say it like you dont really believe it and are telling me it to somewhat make me happy, that is not how it works.
Uh i do believe what i said there
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Ngekop
i-
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:58 a.m.
Stopppppp, I can sense the disappointment in that msg-
2:58 a.m.
Anyways time to backread Gullio!
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I just didnt like the way you brought it up and i kinda threw that feeling out there with it
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Yah you had not had time to establish a townread on Calla when you did. It’s all good now, i townread Calla now
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Guillo
By the way he played in Marvel game
I know
2:59 a.m.
I figured it was that
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Why do you?
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Like 1-2 hours after i asked
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Ngekop
I just didnt like the way you brought it up and i kinda threw that feeling out there with it
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:59 a.m.
It's because there was a reply to another msg that mentioned Mason's
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I thought you had a hard time making reads on day 1, that is a read, now explain it
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Guillo
What you mean?
You said ziel was white knight on me based on meta
2:59 a.m.
But like
3:00 a.m.
That’s smth regarding HER behavior
3:00 a.m.
Which you have no meta on
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Anemoia/Abyss
Stopppppp, I can sense the disappointment in that msg-
Not really
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I had you as a mason read until that point
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Ngekop
Not really
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:01 a.m.
It definitely felt like it-
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But that also makes me think you’re just town
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Ngekop
I had you as a mason read until that point
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:01 a.m.
Me? As Mason?
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Anemoia/Abyss
Me? As Mason?
Yep
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:01 a.m.
Interestttingggg
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You seemed confident on being town and not being at risk
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:01 a.m.
Eh
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Making you chill about other people sr’ing you
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And approaching that with being calm about it
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Ngekop
You seemed confident on being town and not being at risk
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:02 a.m.
Definitely not to get killed, since I don't have a lot of uhhh, what do you call it? Influence.
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Ngekop
Making you chill about other people sr’ing you
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:02 a.m.
I know I'm town so it's chiil
3:02 a.m.
😎
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Yah i had the same impression, but she was high in meds allegedly so i understand it
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Anemoia/Abyss
It's because there was a reply to another msg that mentioned Mason's
Wdym
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Right? Me and Ziel? Lol
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Anemoia/Abyss
I know I'm town so it's chiil
Even if you are town you can get lynched
3:04 a.m.
Unless you’re mason ofc
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lilypetal
I want to say that I really dislike this post. I was never treating you like that, and in fact my play obviously showed that early day 1 as I was actively solving your slot. Rest idc abt but the weird mech stuff needs to be pointed out
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:04 a.m.
I think it's the reply to this msg
3:04 a.m.
Oops
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Weaker than yours? Lol
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:04 a.m.
The msg it's replying to
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At least i called her out, what did you do?
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Ngekop
Unless you’re mason ofc
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:04 a.m.
Unless I'm Mason?
3:05 a.m.
Oh
3:05 a.m.
Right
3:05 a.m.
I was a little dumb lol
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Ngekop
Even if you are town you can get lynched
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:05 a.m.
Yeah, but I'm not likely to
3:06 a.m.
I'm just chilling and trying to contribute at this point
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Guillo
Right? Me and Ziel? Lol
Based on the exact description you gave on your scum meta i dont see what’s wrong with that one
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Guillo
Weaker than yours? Lol
No but i know im town fmpov
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:07 a.m.
With all of my power(yes this is literally me on 90% try hard mode, it's not that good, 100% would be dropping everything and focusing solely on this game)
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Today im at my weakest point as im sick. Today is the best time for scum to do something about it, im just trying to get to minimum 30 and bug the hell out cause im feeling like shit
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Guillo
At least i called her out, what did you do?
Exactly, if you see partner doing smth sus you dont hesitate on calling it out
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No shit
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So idgi how is that unpairing
3:08 a.m.
From you specifically
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Why?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:08 a.m.
Why to what on that post
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Anemoia/Abyss
Yeah, but I'm not likely to
So you never felt even a tiny bit at risk
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:08 a.m.
Specifically
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Even when you have been top wagon most of the day (2 votes only ik but still)
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Ngekop
So you never felt even a tiny bit at risk
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:09 a.m.
A little, but not now
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Ngekop
Even when you have been top wagon most of the day (2 votes only ik but still)
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:09 a.m.
I was a little concerned, but not too badly
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Guillo
Today im at my weakest point as im sick. Today is the best time for scum to do something about it, im just trying to get to minimum 30 and bug the hell out cause im feeling like shit
Im getting sick too :/
3:09 a.m.
I hate it ngl
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:09 a.m.
More annoyed that I was getting voted in the first place
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Ok real time at last
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Guillo
Why?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:10 a.m.
I don't know if it's scum or towny because I haven't really played with Ziel so idk what they do, if they do this often
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Why? I have a different PoE. Nge/Sunny/Ziel If that does not end the game i’d be surprised
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:11 a.m.
Why not Genesis or EOTH?
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Because you townread everyone else right?
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Anemoia/Abyss
I don't know if it's scum or towny because I haven't really played with Ziel so idk what they do, if they do this often
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:13 a.m.
But the things that Ziel really did as I said on the message, I didn't think was progressing the game by any means so it might actually be scummy... Hmmmmm... I'll stand by it not being towny behavior, since it's not progressing the game, no info, and the read was so... Bad
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Ngekop
You said ziel was white knight on me based on meta
Oh cause she claims you have played together
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:15 a.m.
Y'know what? Ziel at scum lean, hasn't really gone out of the way to progress the game too much and a lot of filler. This is all from memory, but it makes sense from me
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Guillo
Why? I have a different PoE. Nge/Sunny/Ziel If that does not end the game i’d be surprised
That’s so funny
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Ngekop
No but i know im town fmpov
And i know im town from my point of view, unfortunately it does not mean anything does it
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Ngekop
Im getting sick too :/
I hope it is not as tough as mine man 😦
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Guillo
And i know im town from my point of view, unfortunately it does not mean anything does it
Not for me but i cant tell you that you should consider yourself as scum can i?
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Guillo
Why? I have a different PoE. Nge/Sunny/Ziel If that does not end the game i’d be surprised
Im p sure that doesnt end the game
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Ngekop
Is the reason im 75% there legit just odds
Nope. Odds +reads ++feels.
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Ngekop
Im p sure that doesnt end the game
SAME
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@Ziel :D just for fun
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And this is post 30
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Wanna make guillo top wagon?
3:19 a.m.
We can do that rn if we both vote there
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I need to go
3:19 a.m.
My vote stays
3:20 a.m.
That is my legacy
3:20 a.m.
Night
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Guillo
That is my legacy
Legacy to what
3:20 a.m.
If you die n1 i’ll be surprised
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That you are scum
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I said legacy to what
3:20 a.m.
Not that what was your legacy
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I die if you are or you are throwing 🙂
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Im not tho
3:21 a.m.
So im surprised if you die
3:21 a.m.
Bc you’ll throw d2
3:21 a.m.
So no need to kill you :p
3:21 a.m.
If i was maf i probs would kill you tho
3:21 a.m.
Ngl
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Oh so you can kill 🙂
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I have enough influence
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Guillo
Oh so you can kill 🙂
No
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Ngekop
So no need to kill you :p
For mafia
3:22 a.m.
Dummy
3:22 a.m.
I dont get you this game fr tho ngl
3:23 a.m.
But idt as scum you’d be that sloppy
3:23 a.m.
And idt you’d intentionally do that to come out that way and hope to be tr’d for it
3:23 a.m.
So i’ll just assume you’re town
3:23 a.m.
And hope you die soon AnimeThumbsup
3:24 a.m.
@Mafia use rolecop on him frfr
3:24 a.m.
(Or just yk, kill him)
3:24 a.m.
@Anemoia/Abyss dont sheep this guy btw
3:24 a.m.
Even if i die tn
3:25 a.m.
And he claims mason and is unccd (i.e. becomes confirmed town)
3:25 a.m.
Don’t sheep him
3:25 a.m.
@Ziel :D if you are town pls unvote
3:25 a.m.
I dont want abyss
3:26 a.m.
@charlie you too
3:26 a.m.
You said it yourself you dont think im teamed with him
3:26 a.m.
So uh yk
3:26 a.m.
If im maf he is town and if im town pls trust me at least for today
3:26 a.m.
pingu
3:27 a.m.
Where did everyone go zzz
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Ngekop
@Ziel :D just for fun
What do you mean???
3:27 a.m.
:>
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Ziel :D
What do you mean???
We can vote guillo rn
3:28 a.m.
That’d make him top wagon
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Okayyyy
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Ngekop
@Anemoia/Abyss dont sheep this guy btw
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:28 a.m.
Sheep who?
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Sounds fair
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Anemoia/Abyss
Sheep who?
Guillo
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Ngekop
Guillo
And DONT
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:28 a.m.
I don't really like sheeping too much, unless it's confirmed town, and even then I don't sheep that much
3:28 a.m.
So no need to worry!
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Yeah im telling you even if he becomes confirmed town
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So we top wagon Guillo? :^
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Dont sheep him
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Ziel :D
So we top wagon Guillo? :^
Sure why not
3:30 a.m.
The fact i had ziel and sunny as possible guillo partners
3:30 a.m.
And he said those two and me
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Ngekop
Wanna make guillo top wagon?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:30 a.m.
I thought you wanted others out more
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Is funny
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Anemoia/Abyss
I thought you wanted others out more
Mhm
3:31 a.m.
@Ziel :D go
3:31 a.m.
I follow
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Anemoia/Abyss
I thought you wanted others out more
It’s funny to have him as top wagon tho
3:31 a.m.
The clown is voting me
3:31 a.m.
It’s a personal satisfaction
3:31 a.m.
pingu
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Ziel :D
Okayyyy
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:32 a.m.
That was too easy imo
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Winning tvt’s is satisfying for me fr
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Anemoia/Abyss
That was too easy imo
Where’s her vote tho
3:32 a.m.
😭
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Ngekop
Dont sheep him
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:33 a.m.
But... Why
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Bc i dont trust his reads
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Ngekop
Where’s her vote tho
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:33 a.m.
I haven't looked at the vote channel yet
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Ngekop
Bc i dont trust his reads
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:33 a.m.
Well, ok
3:33 a.m.
Imma just note that
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I think lily wouldve 100% acted different than she did if she was scum with ziel
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Ngekop
Where’s her vote tho
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:36 a.m.
I just don't like how easily she's Sheeping you without any questions...
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When i asked her for her thoughts on ziel’s list
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Anemoia/Abyss
That was too easy imo
I was Null on Guillo
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Ngekop
I think lily wouldve 100% acted different than she did if she was scum with ziel
We're not
3:37 a.m.
The meta on Guillo
3:37 a.m.
Unsure
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Ngekop
It’s a personal satisfaction
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:37 a.m.
:/
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Ziel :D
I was Null on Guillo
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:37 a.m.
But still too easy
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Ngekop
It’s funny to have him as top wagon tho
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:38 a.m.
Do you think he's Mafia?
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Anemoia/Abyss
But still too easy
I am sheeping Nge
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Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Guillo/ziel Guillo/sunny Lily/sunny Abyss/eoth Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/eoth
3:39 a.m.
We made it to single digits guys
3:39 a.m.
I also removed abyss/genesis
3:39 a.m.
Btw
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Anemoia/Abyss
Do you think he's Mafia?
Not really
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:39 a.m.
Why tho?
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I dont have him even close to tr tho
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Anemoia/Abyss
Why tho?
Why what
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Ngekop
Not really
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:39 a.m.
Then why are you even voting him?
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Anemoia/Abyss
Then why are you even voting him?
Bc he rn is top wagon
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Anemoia/Abyss
Why tho?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:39 a.m.
Removing me and Genesis
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Oh wait
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Felt like it
3:40 a.m.
I tl you now
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You're voting Guillo for personal satisfaction
3:40 a.m.
Omie
3:40 a.m.
:'>
3:40 a.m.
I support you… :'D
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Ngekop
Felt like it
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:40 a.m.
... I don't like that
3:40 a.m.
Y'know what, this vote makes me feel uneasy now
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Anemoia/Abyss
... I don't like that
I forced myself to single digits and i tl you rn
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:41 a.m.
Why not try to get Mafia?
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Nge top poster as always
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Anemoia/Abyss
Why not try to get Mafia?
Why cant guillo be mafia
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Ngekop
I forced myself to single digits and i tl you rn
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:41 a.m.
So?
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Anemoia/Abyss
So?
So what
3:41 a.m.
I would bet this game on you not being maf with genesis
3:42 a.m.
Rn
3:42 a.m.
100%
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Ngekop
Why cant guillo be mafia
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:42 a.m.
Gullio can be Mafia, I'm not saying he isn't, what concerns me is that you narrow it to people who could be likely Mafia, THEN you vote someone for personal satisfaction? It makes me feel bad
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Especially with how you reacted to me removing you/him
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Anemoia/Abyss
Gullio can be Mafia, I'm not saying he isn't, what concerns me is that you narrow it to people who could be likely Mafia, THEN you vote someone for personal satisfaction? It makes me feel bad
Im voting, not lynching
3:42 a.m.
I likely move away from him later
3:42 a.m.
But just for the record
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Ngekop
Not really
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:42 a.m.
"Not really" hmmmmmmm
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I won vs guillo
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Anemoia/Abyss
"Not really" hmmmmmmm
Yeah
3:43 a.m.
But he could be
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Ngekop
Im voting, not lynching
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:43 a.m.
Ik, but it still makes my brain hurt
3:43 a.m.
You’re now going into a logical neutral approach
3:43 a.m.
I dont like that
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:44 a.m.
I just realized... This is the first time I'm disagreeing with Nge...
3:44 a.m.
This feels weird
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Anemoia/Abyss
Y'know what, this vote makes me feel uneasy now
Same but... Oh wellll
3:44 a.m.
Guillo is slightly Mafia Lean so…
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Are you even disagreeing with me?
3:45 a.m.
Idek what am i saying that can be agreed or disagreed on
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Ngekop
Are you even disagreeing with me?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:45 a.m.
Kinda, it doesn't make sense why you'd vote Gullio, it wouldn't be where my vote would be at
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First time i see you concerned about a vote
3:45 a.m.
👀
3:45 a.m.
Not even when you had two votes you got really concerned
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:45 a.m.
Idek why but even though you're just voting someone for the sillies, it makes me revolt
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Ngekop
First time i see you concerned about a vote
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:46 a.m.
Rn I'm feeling highly logical about everything
3:46 a.m.
Mean
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Ngekop
Not even when you had two votes you got really concerned
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:46 a.m.
Because I understood my votee
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How does this make you feel
3:46 a.m.
(I just voted you)
3:47 a.m.
(You are top wagon again)
3:47 a.m.
@Anemoia/Abyss
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:47 a.m.
Idrc tbh
3:47 a.m.
What’s so irrelevant about me voting you rn
3:47 a.m.
But is so concerning about me voting guillo
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:47 a.m.
Because I know that somehow, you're going to get off of me
3:48 a.m.
I stated i was likely going to get off of guillo
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Ngekop
What’s so irrelevant about me voting you rn
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:48 a.m.
Because I know it's nonsense and you want a reaction out of me/testing me/everything of the such, but then you vote Gullio and it makes my insides revolt
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Bc i just wanted to make it clear i win over him
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Ngekop
I stated i was likely going to get off of guillo
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:48 a.m.
You did?
3:48 a.m.
I never saw that
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I told you i was just voting him rn
3:48 a.m.
Not lynching him
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:49 a.m.
Yeah, even though you say that, my body(mostly brain) literally feels uneasy about it...
3:50 a.m.
I know that it's not serious, but my brain is being a logic detector
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Idk what do you want me to do about thay
3:51 a.m.
That
3:51 a.m.
W/e
3:51 a.m.
Let me think now
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When is eod
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Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Guillo/ziel Guillo/sunny Lily/ziel Lily/sunny Abyss/genesis Abyss/eoth Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/eoth
3:52 a.m.
How would scum approach me saying this
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lilypetal
When is eod
Uh
3:52 a.m.
15h i think
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Ngekop
Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Guillo/ziel Guillo/sunny Lily/ziel Lily/sunny Abyss/genesis Abyss/eoth Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/eoth
Lily just saw it and moved on
3:54 a.m.
Calla thought other people should be in there with her too
3:54 a.m.
I think if calla is scum it’s with ziel/gen/sunny but she probs is just not scum and that’s it
3:55 a.m.
Idek the rest tbh
3:55 a.m.
But eh the fact it didnt get much attention makes me believe it’s right
3:56 a.m.
pingu
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Ngekop
Idk what do you want me to do about thay
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:56 a.m.
Nothing actually
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:56 a.m.
It just made me feel weird that's all, but it's mostly gone now
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Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Guillo/ziel Guillo/sunny Lily/sunny Abyss/eoth Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/eoth
3:57 a.m.
I feel good about this rn
3:57 a.m.
Lily can only be mafia with sunny if that’s correct
3:57 a.m.
And even lily+sunny seems a bit unlikely
3:57 a.m.
Which makes lily probs just town
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:57 a.m.
Nge, do you like the game state that we're in rn?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:57 a.m.
Ok
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I think you and lily are towns
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:58 a.m.
I don't mind it, we are getting somewhere
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Even if i cant convince myself fully about it 100% i think im right there
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:58 a.m.
I also want the other's opinions though
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Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Guillo/ziel Guillo/sunny Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/eoth
3:59 a.m.
Calla: 2 Guillo: 2 Ziel: 4 Genesis: 3 Sunny: 1 Eoth: 2
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Ngekop
How would scum approach me saying this
Saying this?
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lilypetal
Saying this?
Mhm
4:00 a.m.
It’s either right or it’s not
4:00 a.m.
I feel like scum would try to get me to elaborate more on that if i was wrong
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Interesting
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Maybe trying to defer but still bringing attention to it
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I think most villagers just don't vare
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Bc they know it is wrong
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Care*
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lilypetal
I think most villagers just don't vare
I know
4:01 a.m.
But scum kinda does especially by someone with presence/influence
4:01 a.m.
They know it’s wrong and they know it’s good for me to be in a state where i am just wrong
4:02 a.m.
I feel like if it’s wrong the only i could see as scum would be calla
4:02 a.m.
Maybe you if you are trying to throw off people and/or emulate town meta which i doubt highly
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Ngekop
Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Guillo/ziel Guillo/sunny Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/eoth
So if ziel gets lynched and flips town
4:03 a.m.
Calla/gen Guillo/sunny Gen/eoth
4:03 a.m.
Huh
4:03 a.m.
If im correct it just makes it auto fmpov
4:03 a.m.
Which is a W
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 4:04 a.m.
Nice
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Ngekop
Calla: 2 Guillo: 2 Ziel: 4 Genesis: 3 Sunny: 1 Eoth: 2
Nvm
4:04 a.m.
If ziel flips maf it wouldnt be auto fmpov
4:04 a.m.
But like
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Cmon
4:06 a.m.
Anyways ziel -> genesis once again either just kills a scum at least
4:06 a.m.
Or confirms it being guillo+sunny
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 4:06 a.m.
Ziel just seems Mafia like to me thh
4:06 a.m.
Tbh*
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 4:07 a.m.
Sorry Ziel but ┐⁠(⁠´⁠ー⁠`⁠)⁠┌
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This just reaffirms abyss/genesis aint it
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 4:07 a.m.
Heh?
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Abyss/eoth on the other hand COULD be
4:08 a.m.
Im p sure ziel if maf can only be with the 4 i said
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Ngekop
This just reaffirms abyss/genesis aint it
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 4:08 a.m.
Like that it's not us two together? Or together? Clarify please
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You two arent the team
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 4:09 a.m.
K
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Ngekop
Im p sure ziel if maf can only be with the 4 i said
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 4:09 a.m.
If town then ok, if Mafia, awsome
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Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Guillo/ziel Guillo/sunny Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/eoth Abyss/eoth
4:10 a.m.
I think i can feel cool with that
4:10 a.m.
@lilypetal unconventionally but im tr’ing you
4:10 a.m.
Wanna help me now?
4:11 a.m.
(Particularly reading abyss’s recent posts and tell me what do you think)
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im going to sleep soon but in the morning im down
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hopefully i get to play before eod
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i think it's in the evening tho
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I personally think
4:14 a.m.
Either ziel is maf
4:14 a.m.
Or it’s guillo/sunny
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 5:15 a.m.
Ok I'll be online in the morning, gn
5:15 a.m.
(officially me sleeping time)
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Guillo
Why? I have a different PoE. Nge/Sunny/Ziel If that does not end the game i’d be surprised
interesting
6:00 a.m.
how you ended up with the same susses as me (though i wasn't specifically sussing any of them, i just said they were the ones more likely to be maf)
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Guillo
My biggest question is why you have me as null when you allegedly mindmelded with me on lily/calla, from your point of view i should your toppest town. Is it because i have you in my scum leans myself?
WWUAAAAUAAAAGAAAAAHHHH
6:16 a.m.
just because i agreed with you on one thing doesn't mean you go straight to the top of my town reads, whether you have a SL on me or not sus
7:13 a.m.
Wow
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How'd y'all end up with that?😭
7:14 a.m.
How am I mafia!???
7:14 a.m.
Omie ;-;
7:16 a.m.
I'm busy right now
7:16 a.m.
:^
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Ngekop
Calla/ziel Calla/genesis Guillo/ziel Guillo/sunny Ziel/genesis Ziel/eoth Genesis/eoth Abyss/eoth
Why are you putting me in teams with the very people im sussing?
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Ngekop
So i’ll just assume you’re town
You are scum. Im 100% positive that i caught you mate 🙂 You scum told so many times in the last 10 minutes of our exchange that is not even funny
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Why is Guillo having a wagon LOL?
10:52 a.m.
yeah no wtf is that
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Ngekop
So i’ll just assume you’re town
Starting with the fact that you allegedly townread me for my “sloppiness” and yet you are voting to execute me and asked the very source from which everything begun to vote alongside you
10:53 a.m.
But there is more!
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Ngekop
If you die n1 i’ll be surprised
This statement can only come from scum who knows what the alignments of the other two people are. There is no way you can say that i will not be killed on night 1 if you don’t know what the alignments of Sunny and Ziel are for starters.
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Ngekop
Bc you’ll throw d2
And then this perspective slip, you know you are not gonna be killed on night 1 already
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Ngekop
So no need to kill you :p
Again, no need to kill me but you are voting to kill me even though you believe im town. So essentially you are willing to throw if you were town, the very thing you accuse me that im gonna do on day 2
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I thought nge wanted the poe today to be ziel,gen,and eoth
11:00 a.m.
So idk why hes voting u at all
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Because he is mafia, i have him cornered and does not know what to do with me
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Yeah your not being voted out d1 LOL
11:02 a.m.
Also I think Ziel ghost voted u
11:02 a.m.
over her two scum leans?
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And u were a null read
11:02 a.m.
She didn't even respond to my question asking her why she voted ane over her more indepth read on eoth
11:03 a.m.
And then she votes u?
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She is voting me because Nge asked her
11:03 a.m.
u
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serious
11:03 a.m.
💀
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Another one Nge says he’s got too many townreads on day 1, we all know what that means… ### he is struggling with TMI
11:05 a.m.
Do you know how many 100% townreads i have now? 0
11:06 a.m.
Leans? Yah i have a few But locked? Nah
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Yeah, I have majority leans
11:06 a.m.
and then nulls
11:06 a.m.
I haven't put one person as a read yet
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Can you repost them please, im gonna save them
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heres my current list Ngekop - Null Sunny - Town Lean Chaos - Town Lean Ziel - Null Lily - Null Ane - Scum lean Guillo - Town lean EOTH - Scum lean
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Im gonna look extremely associated with EOTH if he is scum but i dont think he is
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I been debating on for awhile, the thing is
11:10 a.m.
I remember he did admit he skimmed, which probs results in those reads, and then him just pushing bc he was like yeah i got a reaction isn't really scummy in my opinion, now looking it in a different way, but I still have him there bc he hasn't gave anything else and Ik he's capable of more
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Why do you null read lily again?
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I just haven't seen anything that screamed town or scum to me so
11:12 a.m.
While i would push her too a town lean bc she did realize like I am town and my reactions are townie, one could say TMI to that as well
11:13 a.m.
So i just put her as null, and ill keep waiting
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Look I dont think EOTH is scum and this is why (please keep an open mind).
11:16 a.m.
1) He was getting PoEd for not posting 2) Then comes in with an unpopular readlist sussing Lily and yourself. I was townreading Lily at the time. What PoEd scum enters the game channel and instead of making friends, posts an unpopular readlist to get massive pushback
11:17 a.m.
yeah it wouldnt make sense
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The dude had no fear whatsoever
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bc it would draw so much attention to themselves
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town lean eoth 👀
11:18 a.m.
The thing is ig is like eoth is very experienced mafia player so like i wouldn't put it past him to maybe do something like that as scum, but like would he do it in a tour and in a format that he doesn't understand
11:18 a.m.
like this is his first game here so
11:18 a.m.
yeah i think yeah
11:18 a.m.
town lean
11:18 a.m.
yeah that makes sense
11:19 a.m.
U wouldn't be risky
11:19 a.m.
I just want him to talk more thats all
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@EasyOnTheHills talk more please
11:27 a.m.

Scum list

If this does not end the game please reevaluate. Ngekop Sunny Ziel
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Sunny? thats new
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charlie
U wouldn't be risky
Yup and this is why im sus of Ziel cause she came in being too LAMIST, too readily to make friends and get on people's good graces.
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charlie
Sunny? thats new
Yah, i reaction tested them earlier and didnt like their reactions
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Guillo
Yup and this is why im sus of Ziel cause she came in being too LAMIST, too readily to make friends and get on people's good graces.
One could argue that's how she's usually like, she gets pretty far as scum because of that I'm ngl, and I didn't like how when you did mention to nge that she could be potentially pocketing him, and he was like oh well shes nice. Also, the fact he mentioned Keaton 😭 Like if Keaton was here he would be like wtf to that and say its anti-town to allow potential pocketing. Which brings to a question I have, I can see nge + sunny together, I can see nge + ziel together, but I can't see Ziel + sunny together, what are your thoughts on that.
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Guillo
Yah, i reaction tested them earlier and didnt like their reactions
Where was the reaction test, I would like to see his reactions and stuff, I feel like personally sunny is playing fine, but I just want to see where you are like eh i dont think so
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charlie
One could argue that's how she's usually like, she gets pretty far as scum because of that I'm ngl, and I didn't like how when you did mention to nge that she could be potentially pocketing him, and he was like oh well shes nice. Also, the fact he mentioned Keaton 😭 Like if Keaton was here he would be like wtf to that and say its anti-town to allow potential pocketing. Which brings to a question I have, I can see nge + sunny together, I can see nge + ziel together, but I can't see Ziel + sunny together, what are your thoughts on that.
The reason I bring up Keaton, is he knows it's wrong but he allows it - Ziel's potential pocketing
11:35 a.m.
Because he knows if Keaton was here, he would have been called out right away
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charlie
One could argue that's how she's usually like, she gets pretty far as scum because of that I'm ngl, and I didn't like how when you did mention to nge that she could be potentially pocketing him, and he was like oh well shes nice. Also, the fact he mentioned Keaton 😭 Like if Keaton was here he would be like wtf to that and say its anti-town to allow potential pocketing. Which brings to a question I have, I can see nge + sunny together, I can see nge + ziel together, but I can't see Ziel + sunny together, what are your thoughts on that.
A world where Ziel and Sunny are both scum is funny because they both give me LHF vibes, that'd be such an unlucky rand
11:39 a.m.
But no, i dont have reasons to associate them. My scum reads are based on individual misdeeds
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Guillo

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If this does not end the game please reevaluate. Ngekop Sunny Ziel
Not me , Nge, and Sunny, please 😭
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Okay got u that makes more sense
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All are like, town in my opinion
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Well we are trying to figure out everything rn
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Ziel :D
All are like, town in my opinion
But why do you think Gullio is a scum lean
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charlie
Also I think Ziel ghost voted u
I did for Nge
11:42 a.m.
But Ane is my Wolf Read
11:42 a.m.
And EOTH
11:43 a.m.
My internet omie
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Why did Nge scum lean/read Gullio
11:43 a.m.
Do u remember
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charlie
But why do you think Gullio is a scum lean
I am more of null, but Nge pushed Guillo wagon
11:43 a.m.
The meta
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What is the meta
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It's for personal satisfaction 😭😭😭
11:43 a.m.
I don't agree
11:43 a.m.
But the things I do for Nge :'>
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That actually depleted my Nge siding percentage
11:44 a.m.
Because
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Whyyyyyy
11:44 a.m.
Poof
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wait ur voting gullio but u dont agree
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Oh ok then
11:46 a.m.
:^
11:46 a.m.
Nge supremacy
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so ur sheeping nge rn
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I'll change my mind about Nge in LyLo
11:46 a.m.
Maybe
11:46 a.m.
Or in a thousand years
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That is one vote away from hammer
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Oh wow
11:46 a.m.
I didn't follow yet
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You dont act townie
11:47 a.m.
😭😭😭
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You can die
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I am top wagon
11:47 a.m.
WAHHAHAHAHHAHAH
11:47 a.m.
I have mixed feelings
11:47 a.m.
Because I've been voted out my first games as well
11:47 a.m.
😭
11:47 a.m.
Still
11:47 a.m.
As long as Nge is on my side
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well its not eod yet
11:48 a.m.
and u havent been voted out
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I don't think it matters
11:48 a.m.
Owp
11:48 a.m.
I personally think my wagon is not pure town
11:48 a.m.
Still
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yeah ane has to go
11:48 a.m.
but nobody voting ane
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At least you get info out
11:48 a.m.
@Ngekop
11:49 a.m.
Will you still be satisfied with the Guillo vote?
11:49 a.m.
Pfft--
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Guillo is not the vote for today at all
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I agree Ane has to go
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Why do you care so much about Nge
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A Nge-carry is the best
11:49 a.m.
I'm self-proclaimed Nge's little sis
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Ok but do you realize that you are voting me for out of the game reasons?
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I know so I am calling @Ngekop
11:51 a.m.
Who is busy
11:51 a.m.
And am suggesting an Ane vote
11:51 a.m.
Oh okay
11:51 a.m.
I've come to a decision
11:51 a.m.
To vote Ane
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Ziel, what do you claim?
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Because that's what I ought to do
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Guillo
Ziel, what do you claim?
Claim? Role?
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I'm a normal town
11:52 a.m.
Isn't it too early for hard claims?
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Then im fucking confused
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Let me help you out of your confusion
11:52 a.m.
Firstly, what are you confused about??
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Your treatment of Nge
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Me and Nge being something aligned so hard
11:53 a.m.
Ah
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I see
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You both being Masons crossed my mind
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I won't say anything more than what I've said
11:53 a.m.
hold up
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But you are not
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I claim I am not because I am not
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oh okay so ur not mason
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But I believe
11:54 a.m.
I know who masons are
11:54 a.m.
Or not
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I don't know 😭
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We dont need to know here
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Best to keep mason talk to a min
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I think Ziel is scum and is trying to make Nge look partnered
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I am not making Nge a partner if I was hypothetically scum
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So im just gonna clear Nge if Ziel flips scum
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I seriously am not!!!
11:56 a.m.
I'm just sheeping Nge
11:56 a.m.
If I am to be elim
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its not eod
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I think voting Ane is the least I can do to help town
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things can change
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I still want a ane vote myself
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charlie
its not eod
There is a hammer,next vote ends the day
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Guillo
There is a hammer,next vote ends the day
oh shit why r we at hammer
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I'm just exercising my rights
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yeah we dont need to be at hammer stuff
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charlie
oh shit why r we at hammer
Because i put her at hammer
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Yeah, we really don't need to be at hammer point when EOD isn't even here yet
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All this talk makes me feel the more that Guillo isn't wolf
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charlie
Yeah, we really don't need to be at hammer point when EOD isn't even here yet
Why not?
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Hammer is nkt beneficial
11:58 a.m.
Is it not?
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Guillo
Why not?
Well, i think someone can randomly hammer and then we lose time speaking with each other
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Maybe we got scum and later we give wolfs chance to overturn it
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yeah u could argue that
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You do not though
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Like we should look for whoever is unnaturally willing to get off the wagon
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But you won't know
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but i learned having it be at a hammer point is like anti townie
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Unless you're wolf
11:59 a.m.
:^
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charlie
but i learned having it be at a hammer point is like anti townie
It really isn't
12:00 p.m.
I learned that as well
12:00 p.m.
Because
12:00 p.m.
Scum can hammer
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Depends
12:00 p.m.
But they can
12:00 p.m.
If they will
12:00 p.m.
But hammering me is wolfy in itself
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anybody who hammers just kills our time
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Ziel, Callahan on Anemoia… interesting
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So I don't really care if I'm hammered or not at the moment
12:00 p.m.
Oh
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Guillo
Ziel, Callahan on Anemoia… interesting
I only voted Ziel bc i didnt want u gone, shes still a null to me
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I'm not on hammer anymore then
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I rather my scum lean over a null read
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Guillo is back to Null
12:01 p.m.
With the almost hammer
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No hes very much a town lean 😭
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Why is Anemoia a scum lean for you?
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charlie
No hes very much a town lean 😭
Ohhhhh
12:01 p.m.
Right
12:02 p.m.
I guess there's that with him not knowing
12:02 p.m.
But still
12:02 p.m.
:'>
12:02 p.m.
I never want me hammered
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Not again
12:02 p.m.
Ever
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Ziel is funny, she thinks she is playing mind games, how silly
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Okay then, I'm silly 😭
12:03 p.m.
And thank you for calling me funny
12:03 p.m.
XD
12:03 p.m.
I mostly get called corny
12:03 p.m.
And weird
12:03 p.m.
Because of my jokes
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Pfft--
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Guillo
Why is Anemoia a scum lean for you?
Basically he seems to be overcompensating, also the fact he lied about a skill he didn't possess threw me off, so he's trying to appear more helpful than he actually is, also he's just doing a lot of IIoA, he just agrees, gives no conclusion and just has nothing to give for himself, I think I saw one post where he was like actually hmm about something. Also, he was trying WAYYYY too hard in the beginning like it was really like a wtf moment.
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charlie
Basically he seems to be overcompensating, also the fact he lied about a skill he didn't possess threw me off, so he's trying to appear more helpful than he actually is, also he's just doing a lot of IIoA, he just agrees, gives no conclusion and just has nothing to give for himself, I think I saw one post where he was like actually hmm about something. Also, he was trying WAYYYY too hard in the beginning like it was really like a wtf moment.
(2)
12:04 p.m.
I feel like a witness
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what does 2 mean
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Because I was there when it happened
12:04 p.m.
The intensity
12:04 p.m.
Wooh
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omg him trying to be like me was WILD
12:04 p.m.
and then admitting he didnt have that skill
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charlie
what does 2 mean
It's like a statement of agreement
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charlie
Basically he seems to be overcompensating, also the fact he lied about a skill he didn't possess threw me off, so he's trying to appear more helpful than he actually is, also he's just doing a lot of IIoA, he just agrees, gives no conclusion and just has nothing to give for himself, I think I saw one post where he was like actually hmm about something. Also, he was trying WAYYYY too hard in the beginning like it was really like a wtf moment.
What if i told you that Anemoia has a volume tell
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and then also admitting he had no idea how he plays as town, which he should if he was town this game
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Have you not encountered those? ;-;
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Guillo
What if i told you that Anemoia has a volume tell
what is it
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When he is scum, he barely posts
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I was just in a game with him and he was third party and he posted a lot
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Third party is different, the dynamics are different, if you get executed as third party, it is on you and you are not letting down a team
12:06 p.m.
Im gonna iso ane though
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pls do
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I don't think scum being silent is a logic. Silent people are the ones who are mostly elim-d
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bc the thing is, he LIED about a skill he doesn't have, u dont lie as town, well u shouldnt
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Guillo
Im gonna iso ane though
Go do so
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charlie
bc the thing is, he LIED about a skill he doesn't have, u dont lie as town, well u shouldnt
It looked like he was just trying to appear helpful when he cant actually help
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Ziel :D
I don't think scum being silent is a logic. Silent people are the ones who are mostly elim-d
Well the thing is that when they post, they post like you so hence they dont
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Guillo
Well the thing is that when they post, they post like you so hence they dont
Post like me--
12:08 p.m.
I'm so wolfy
12:08 p.m.
Am I really just inherently scummy
12:08 p.m.
:'>
12:09 p.m.
Is me sheeping Nge that bad? ;-; @Ngekop Do you want me gone?
12:09 p.m.
Sorry for the pings
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yeah ur pinging a lot
12:09 p.m.
i never seen u ping before
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lol
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I guess
12:10 p.m.
XD
12:10 p.m.
I can ping you
12:11 p.m.
@charlie You're amazing as well! ✨
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Ziel :D
@charlie You're amazing as well! ✨
omg i love u, ur amazing too! <3
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charlie
omg i love u, ur amazing too! <3
Ahhhhhhhhhh Wahhhhhhhhh I kind of didn't expect that 😭🤍
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Anemoia/Abyss
Ziel is weird, the read on you is not that good, and there is a lot of fluff, but I don't think that's scum or town behavior
Then what is it?
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Anemoia/Abyss
Ziel is weird, the read on you is not that good, and there is a lot of fluff, but I don't think that's scum or town behavior
I know, I'm weird 🙃
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Guillo
Then what is it?
Imagine, I'm neutral
12:13 p.m.
Imagine, I side with Mafia
12:13 p.m.
Imagine, I'm actually dead
12:13 p.m.
Oh what
12:15 p.m.
Omay
12:15 p.m.
I'm gonna be out
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Anemoia/Abyss
Do you know why Gullio tr's me? I don't know why he is based off of the good evidence that everyone else brings up of me being scum
What you mean good evidence?
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Safe journey, everyone
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Anemoia/Abyss
Meanwhile I don't think there's too much making me towny
We're on the same corners :'>
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Anemoia/Abyss
Do you know why Gullio tr's me? I don't know why he is based off of the good evidence that everyone else brings up of me being scum
Are you admitting that the reasons people scum lean you for are legit?
12:17 p.m.
@Anemoia/Abyss
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SUNNY!!
oh okay Town Nge Calla Genesis EOTH Guillo Ane Ziel Lily Mafia my reads are mostly the same, guillo, ziel, ane, and genesis switched up though
What has Genesis done to deserve such spot?
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Guillo
Are you admitting that the reasons people scum lean you for are legit?
SEE SEE
12:21 p.m.
He gotta go
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Guillo
Are you admitting that the reasons people scum lean you for are legit?
He is
12:21 p.m.
But also saying he's wrong
12:21 p.m.
And
12:22 p.m.
That's right
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Ngekop
Bc i just wanted to make it clear i win over him
This shit is so arrogant that i would shoot you right now if i was a day vigilante.
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Wrongly wrong-ing the wrong is wrong
12:22 p.m.
But correctly correcting the incorrect is correct
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Whu
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Can
12:22 p.m.
You
12:23 p.m.
Stop
12:23 p.m.
Ye
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Trolling
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Guillo
What has Genesis done to deserve such spot?
already explained that it's literally two messages down
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WAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHHA Last laugh.
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Ngekop
Or it’s guillo/sunny
Marking this
12:23 p.m.
Wtf are y’all doing
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figuring the game out
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Going for PoE
12:24 p.m.
Nge, why are you teaming me up with the people i sus?
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You put someone at L-1
12:24 p.m.
That’s just stupid
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Yes i did
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Ngekop
That’s just stupid
(2)
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Ngekop
You put someone at L-1
its okay i unvoted
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Ngeeee
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Guillo
Nge, why are you teaming me up with the people i sus?
Bc you’d sus your partner and idt the rest would
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You're heree
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Be teamed with you
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Now I don't wanna go
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Ngekop
Bc you’d sus your partner and idt the rest would
That is what i thought 🙂 Nge is town
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I personally raise the Ane wagon
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Ok i’ll catch up
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Ziel :D
I personally raise the Ane wagon
I dont
12:26 p.m.
But
12:26 p.m.
Kie
12:26 p.m.
Okie
12:26 p.m.
😭
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Let me catch up
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I am in the Ane wagon
12:26 p.m.
I think it's the most reasonable
12:26 p.m.
Among all other wagons
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why is that?
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Ziel is sheeping you for OGI reasons Nge
12:27 p.m.
I would not trust that
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Guillo
You are scum. Im 100% positive that i caught you mate 🙂 You scum told so many times in the last 10 minutes of our exchange that is not even funny
You confuse me a fair bit ngl
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trying to figure out why Ane is town too ppl rn meme_DTNohgirl
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Although Guillo is Null right now, they're slightly leaning Mafia to me, being defending Ane without catching up But I still Null Guillo because he didn't know why yet
12:27 p.m.
Anyways
12:27 p.m.
Good night people
12:27 p.m.
I need to catch up on my sleep
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Ziel :D
Although Guillo is Null right now, they're slightly leaning Mafia to me, being defending Ane without catching up But I still Null Guillo because he didn't know why yet
Excuse me?
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Guillo
Starting with the fact that you allegedly townread me for my “sloppiness” and yet you are voting to execute me and asked the very source from which everything begun to vote alongside you
I mean you got to 2 votes
12:28 p.m.
I dint
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Dodnt
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Dodnt
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Didnt
12:28 p.m.
:p
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That means nothing ik
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But like it’s funny to me
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Do you think this is a war for territories? Grow up mate
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Guillo
Excuse me?
Whatt
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Guillo
This statement can only come from scum who knows what the alignments of the other two people are. There is no way you can say that i will not be killed on night 1 if you don’t know what the alignments of Sunny and Ziel are for starters.
Idt they are the team tho
12:29 p.m.
So i think you are at best 1/3
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Ziel is scum lolcatting
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Guillo
Again, no need to kill me but you are voting to kill me even though you believe im town. So essentially you are willing to throw if you were town, the very thing you accuse me that im gonna do on day 2
I didnt ping people to vote you and i didnt put you at risk
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whats lolcatting again
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Lolcatting?
12:30 p.m.
Meow
12:30 p.m.
XD
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Or trolling, which is unforgivable in a tournament
12:31 p.m.
I think thats how she usually is tho
12:31 p.m.
thats the thing 😭
12:31 p.m.
I dont think shes trolling at all, thats her personality
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It's Guillo's first time playing with me
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Guillo
Another one Nge says he’s got too many townreads on day 1, we all know what that means… ### he is struggling with TMI
I never struggle with TMI im better than that lol
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He wouldn't know 😭
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Ngekop
I never struggle with TMI im better than that lol
W
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Ngekop
I didnt ping people to vote you and i didnt put you at risk
Still voted me even though you townread me, i put Ziel at risk because i sus her
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Guillo
Do you know how many 100% townreads i have now? 0
Same?
12:31 p.m.
I said that
12:32 p.m.
I remember you saying you townread a lot of people
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Nge and Guillo def not maf togeth
12:32 p.m.
Wooh
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I like Guillo's attitude omie
12:33 p.m.
Rawr
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Ok i apologize, that was unnecessary
12:33 p.m.
Okay
12:34 p.m.
Bye people
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@PoinsettiaBottom 🎅 why do you think Ane is scum?
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Well do u think Ane is scum Guillo after viewing his ISO
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charlie
One could argue that's how she's usually like, she gets pretty far as scum because of that I'm ngl, and I didn't like how when you did mention to nge that she could be potentially pocketing him, and he was like oh well shes nice. Also, the fact he mentioned Keaton 😭 Like if Keaton was here he would be like wtf to that and say its anti-town to allow potential pocketing. Which brings to a question I have, I can see nge + sunny together, I can see nge + ziel together, but I can't see Ziel + sunny together, what are your thoughts on that.
Callahan being impossible to cooperate with
12:37 p.m.
She might be town fr huh
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Ngekop
Callahan being impossible to cooperate with
SMILE
12:37 p.m.
LOL
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Pfft--
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when does the day end? 💔
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Okay I'm really leaving now
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SUNNY!!
when does the day end? 💔
Helloooo What do you feel about getting paired with me XD
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charlie
yeah ane has to go
No
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SUNNY!!
when does the day end? 💔
i think 6 or 7
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Ngekop
No
name one townie thing he has done
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Ziel :D
Helloooo What do you feel about getting paired with me XD
?? What
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Ziel :D
I'm self-proclaimed Nge's little sis
<3
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charlie
name one townie thing he has done
Ane cant even name one townie thing he has done BC I ASKED HIM BEFORE AND HE COUDLNT TELL ME
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Guillo
You both being Masons crossed my mind
Not the case move on
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charlie
One could argue that's how she's usually like, she gets pretty far as scum because of that I'm ngl, and I didn't like how when you did mention to nge that she could be potentially pocketing him, and he was like oh well shes nice. Also, the fact he mentioned Keaton 😭 Like if Keaton was here he would be like wtf to that and say its anti-town to allow potential pocketing. Which brings to a question I have, I can see nge + sunny together, I can see nge + ziel together, but I can't see Ziel + sunny together, what are your thoughts on that.
I got one game like that as scum and I only made it far because of people being niceeee Wahhh 😭😭 I still lost but I deserved it :'>
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I also feel like I am now Oh wow
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SUNNY!!
?? What
What do you feel about them saying we're paired
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charlie
Well do u think Ane is scum Guillo after viewing his ISO
Well i dont townread him now, nor i scum read him, i need answers from him
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Does that make you believe I am more mafia or not?
12:42 p.m.
(Asking in my perspective where you are town.)
12:42 p.m.
I'll look back
12:42 p.m.
Neksjkwjcjwk
12:42 p.m.
Bye bye
12:42 p.m.
Oh wait
12:43 p.m.
I don't even think I'll survive to that point
12:43 p.m.
Pfft--
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I dont know Ziel
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Guillo, didn't see you answer this
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I feel the mason thingy was a genuine comment
12:43 p.m.
Which is way more likely to come from a cit than anything else
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Like would you troll the game when you are PoEd
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Ngekop
I feel the mason thingy was a genuine comment
How do u not know there is masons in this game, like the whole setup is around the masons 😭
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Im starting to thing Zeil is just TWTBAW
12:44 p.m.
THINK
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I’d tell you that’s wrong btw
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Ngekop
Which is way more likely to come from a cit than anything else
Oh, is it??
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How tf do you know
12:44 p.m.
You havent played with him as scum
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Ngekop
How tf do you know
Because he played in Deck Mafia as scum, that's howv
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Guillo
Im starting to thing Zeil is just TWTBAW
I believe I have a bloodline of wolves… We lick our wounds when they bleed…
12:45 p.m.
Oh, those are vampires 😭
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charlie
bc the thing is, he LIED about a skill he doesn't have, u dont lie as town, well u shouldnt
Bruh my brain
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SUNNY!!
Guillo, didn't see you answer this
@Guillo sillyermmlooks
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Guillo
THINK
Do Wolves have a brain capable of thinking? Hmm…
12:46 p.m.
Actually nevermind that
12:46 p.m.
Good night 😭😭😭
12:46 p.m.
I'll leave so I can get some sleep
12:46 p.m.
Ahhhhhhhhhh
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charlie
Where was the reaction test, I would like to see his reactions and stuff, I feel like personally sunny is playing fine, but I just want to see where you are like eh i dont think so
ISO me, i posted some Elsa Frozen gifs, that is the exchange.
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Guillo
ISO me, i posted some Elsa Frozen gifs, that is the exchange.
siuwehfiuerh
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Guillo
Ziel is sheeping you for OGI reasons Nge
She stopped tho
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I need to step off, my head is hurting
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Guillo
Still voted me even though you townread me, i put Ziel at risk because i sus her
Tbf i never said i tr’d you, i just implied i tl’d you which was the case
12:49 p.m.
And the reason im struggling is indeed bc i have too many tl’s but no tr’s
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Guillo
@PoinsettiaBottom 🎅 why do you think Ane is scum?
Wat
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charlie
How do u not know there is masons in this game, like the whole setup is around the masons 😭
Exactly
12:52 p.m.
As mafia i doubt he’d ever forget that
12:52 p.m.
And i also doubt he’d be that bold to fake that comment
12:52 p.m.
Especially as reacting to smth else
12:53 p.m.
If he’s maf then he took advantage of the fact he genuinely forgot about masons
12:53 p.m.
But i dont see how could he do that as maf
12:53 p.m.
Bc mason hunting is like
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Really important
12:53 p.m.
And mafia literally has a night 1 rolecop that is exclusively for that
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Guillo
Im starting to thing Zeil is just TWTBAW
Dont go there
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Guillo
Because he played in Deck Mafia as scum, that's howv
Ooo
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I see him actually just dumbtelling, and his overall gameplay is scum, I don't think a mirco read like that should take away on the fact he is playing very scummy rn
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I just defer on him playing very scummy
12:59 p.m.
Ziel going to sleep
12:59 p.m.
Is really unfortunate
1:01 p.m.
@lilypetal hi
1:02 p.m.
When is eod
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Awesome
1:02 p.m.
I'm gonna probably sleep a bit more ping me with stuff u wanna talk abt I'll ping u when I'm around
1:03 p.m.
Where did everyone go
1:05 p.m.
The dedication callahan is putting into this if she is scum is huge
1:06 p.m.
I still want to hear other people’s opinions on abyss’s approach regarding me and guillo
1:06 p.m.
With that vote
1:07 p.m.
I liked his concern but i didnt like the logic perspective thingy
1:12 p.m.
Sunny had a great start but has fallen off a bit hard since tbh
1:15 p.m.
But yeah if i had to give a winning town core of 4 rn (hoping i dont include both masons in here and hence it does make it auto) i’d go me/calla/lily/abyss
1:15 p.m.
And close to that guillo/eoth (guillo’s point on eoth makes sense tbh)
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I think sunny has had towny processes
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I dont want abyss
2:04 p.m.
Wtf is this
2:04 p.m.
@Ziel :D can you vote someone else pls
2:10 p.m.
Hi calla
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Ngekop
But yeah if i had to give a winning town core of 4 rn (hoping i dont include both masons in here and hence it does make it auto) i’d go me/calla/lily/abyss
How does abyss make it into here when the only thing u said he’s town in is his dumb tell?
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Ngekop
Hi calla
Also hi
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lilypetal
I think sunny has had towny processes
This
2:13 p.m.
I feel as if Sunny was scum they would just coast after being town read but they have been giving their thoughts and reads
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I wont comment further on sunny
2:14 p.m.
He wont go today either way
2:14 p.m.
Most of your points on abyss are flawed at best btw
2:14 p.m.
His dumbtell is 100% genuine
2:15 p.m.
And i do think it’s more likely to come from a cit perspective
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:15 p.m.
(this still annoys me)
2:15 p.m.
Anyways hi
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Anemoia/Abyss
(this still annoys me)
I KNOW
2:15 p.m.
Hi
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:15 p.m.
I'm backreading
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Anemoia/Abyss
(this still annoys me)
Bc u litterally were LOL?
2:17 p.m.
If u actually read like u said u were
2:17 p.m.
U would know
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charlie
bc the thing is, he LIED about a skill he doesn't have, u dont lie as town, well u shouldnt
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:17 p.m.
Like I said, I WANTED too, I never said that I was an expert at it or anything.
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Ngekop
And i do think it’s more likely to come from a cit perspective
Yeah so him as cit just totally forgot there is masons in a mason surronded theme
2:17 p.m.
Good to know
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Anemoia/Abyss
Like I said, I WANTED too, I never said that I was an expert at it or anything.
So ur basically trying to waste everybody’s time good to know
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Anemoia/Abyss
I'm backreading
Hi backreading
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charlie
Bc u litterally were LOL?
He literally wasnt
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Yes he was 😭
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You arent a unicorn yk, people can try to read others by interacting with them
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Okay this doesn’t matter but at the end of the day, he can’t do something but says he can
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Ngekop
You arent a unicorn yk, people can try to read others by interacting with them
He can’t do it tho so why lie
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He never said he could
2:19 p.m.
He said he wanted to
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He litterally
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Was like I’m going to interact with ppl
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How will he be able to do so if he doesnt try in the first place
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charlie
Was like I’m going to interact with ppl
Yes
2:19 p.m.
So?
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Ngekop
How will he be able to do so if he doesnt try in the first place
Maybe when if he can actually know how to do it??
2:19 p.m.
Bc he doesn’t
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charlie
So ur basically trying to waste everybody’s time good to know
Lmao?
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He litterally admitted he doesn’t
2:19 p.m.
Know how to do it
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:19 p.m.
Many things like I seemed to look like I was trying too hard(I just want to go into the next round of games tbh)
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charlie
Yeah so him as cit just totally forgot there is masons in a mason surronded theme
Way more likely than as maf
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Anemoia/Abyss
Many things like I seemed to look like I was trying too hard(I just want to go into the next round of games tbh)
Then maybe not agree with everything everybody says
2:20 p.m.
And give ur own opinions
2:20 p.m.
Instead of just coasting
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charlie
Maybe when if he can actually know how to do it??
HOW WILL HE LEARN IF YOU DONT LET HIM TRY IN THE FIRST PLACE
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Ngekop
HOW WILL HE LEARN IF YOU DONT LET HIM TRY IN THE FIRST PLACE
HE NEEDS TO ASK HOW TO DO IT U CANT DO SOMETHING IF U DONT KNOW HOW TO DO IT
2:21 p.m.
LIKE WHAT DID HE REALLY THINK HE WAS GOING TO DO IF HE HAS NO IDEA HOW TO DO IT
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charlie
And give ur own opinions
He has
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No all I see is I agree and following what most ppl think
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charlie
HE NEEDS TO ASK HOW TO DO IT U CANT DO SOMETHING IF U DONT KNOW HOW TO DO IT
It isnt a recipe
2:21 p.m.
He can learn by trying on his own
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He couldn’t even tell me how he plays as town
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After all interacting with people
2:22 p.m.
Is just a tool
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Which u would think he would know if he was town this game
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That you can only use into your favor
2:22 p.m.
The reasons im not locked into him town
2:22 p.m.
Have not even anything to do with what you’re saying
2:23 p.m.
I also dont think he can be partnered with anyone but eoth
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This convo is useless hes scum
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Be real
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charlie
This convo is useless hes scum
Lmao
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charlie
Then maybe not agree with everything everybody says
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:23 p.m.
Well I don't know if I was overdoing it :/
2:24 p.m.
Also yikes the vote count
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Calla/guillo/lily/ziel/gen arent scum with him
2:24 p.m.
It has to be either sunny or eoth
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And you tl both dummy
2:24 p.m.
He hasnt just agreed with people
2:25 p.m.
Guillo’s votes are lowkey borderline twtbaw
2:25 p.m.
Idk what to make of that
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Ngekop
HOW WILL HE LEARN IF YOU DONT LET HIM TRY IN THE FIRST PLACE
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:25 p.m.
No need to defend that, that much lol
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Abyss wanna vote him? His votes are all over the place
2:26 p.m.
@Anemoia/Abyss ^^
2:26 p.m.
Why are you
2:27 p.m.
Dipping
2:27 p.m.
Brooooo
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:27 p.m.
I'm back
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Hi back
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:27 p.m.
Patients
2:27 p.m.
Oop
2:27 p.m.
Patience
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Not about that
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Ngekop
Abyss wanna vote him? His votes are all over the place
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:27 p.m.
Gullio you mean?
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But w/e
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Anemoia/Abyss
Gullio you mean?
Yes
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Ngekop
Guillo’s votes are lowkey borderline twtbaw
^
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:28 p.m.
W/e? What does that mean?
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In the span of an hour
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Anemoia/Abyss
W/e? What does that mean?
Whatever
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Ngekop
In the span of an hour
Ngekop -> ziel -> abyss
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:28 p.m.
My gosh there are so many terms I still don't know
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This progression just makes no sense
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:28 p.m.
Ah
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Why is he on me tho?
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Especially silently
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:28 p.m.
I STILL need to read back some more
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Anemoia/Abyss
Why is he on me tho?
He iso’d you
2:29 p.m.
Didn’t tr you
2:29 p.m.
Didnt sr you either
2:29 p.m.
Lol
2:29 p.m.
So that’s
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🤷‍♂️
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Ngekop
Abyss wanna vote him? His votes are all over the place
This is very level 0 logic for someone like you mate
2:33 p.m.
Since when votes all over the place are a synonym of scumminess?
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Being all over the place means someone is hunting?
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Imma just say i didnt intend for you to come in
2:34 p.m.
In this meantime
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Every time i convince myself that you are just town, you post shit like that
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Also since this guy went backreading and did nothing since no point in keeping it up
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Guillo
Every time i convince myself that you are just town, you post shit like that
Lol
2:35 p.m.
What do you think my intention was
2:35 p.m.
Behind telling that to him
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At that moment
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In that context
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Ngekop
What do you think my intention was
To build a wagon on me while i was away.
2:36 p.m.
It is probable that i miss eod, depending on the drugs i take
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:36 p.m.
Well I'm the wagon so if that's what it was, I didn't work
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Drugs as in medicine
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Guillo
To build a wagon on me while i was away.
Your final lines about me were saying im town
2:37 p.m.
Dont you think i as scum would want to keep it that way until eod
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And then just kill you
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(Fypov)
2:37 p.m.
If im scum knowing you are town then i know how swingy you are being
2:38 p.m.
And hence how you can be a threat again at any point
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Fair, if i was scum in your position i would just kill you at night
2:38 p.m.
But you are not me
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So? Im not dumb lol
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And you pride yourself to own discord mafia
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:38 p.m.
Imma back read a little more
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Guillo
And you pride yourself to own discord mafia
Not as much as you think
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:39 p.m.
Wel- it's more of a skim
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And i dont play suboptimally unless it has a purpose
2:39 p.m.
Im at 1% btw
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Anemoia/Abyss
Wel- it's more of a skim
I made you some questions
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And my phone is getting slow
2:39 p.m.
So i might stop talking at any time
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:40 p.m.
I don't think I read through them all, that's where I am right now Gullio
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Anyways irrelevant
2:40 p.m.
Rn
2:40 p.m.
The fact guillo was here indicating he might just be intending to potentially switch that vote is relieving
2:41 p.m.
Do tell me how can abyss be maf with someone not named sunny or eoth
2:41 p.m.
You love team reads
2:41 p.m.
So pls enlighten me there
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I might keep my vote where it is, i need answers from Ane
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Guillo
I might keep my vote where it is, i need answers from Ane
I know
2:42 p.m.
I said you intended to potentially switch
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how would i be partnered with abyss? because i haven't voted them? 😞
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Bc there is nothing making it impossible for you to be partners yet
2:43 p.m.
Same for eoth
2:43 p.m.
While the rest imo are never teamed with him
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SUNNY!!
how would i be partnered with abyss? because i haven't voted them? 😞
This unpartners you from Ane actually, cause i didnt know that was the case, no scum is gonna admit they have never voted another scum partner
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Guillo
This unpartners you from Ane actually, cause i didnt know that was the case, no scum is gonna admit they have never voted another scum partner
Why not
2:44 p.m.
It’s an observation anyone can make
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Yes it is
2:45 p.m.
Especially once either of them flips
2:45 p.m.
If abyss flips then imo someone wouldve pointed that out in the following days sooner or later
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From a psychological stand point, scum dont want the attention on themselves that they have never voted one another, in fact, scum distance on day 1, they vote each other and make sure everyone sees it
2:46 p.m.
So no, sunny and ane are not a team
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Guillo
I might keep my vote where it is, i need answers from Ane
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:46 p.m.
Yeah one second
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it also doesn't help that im voting ziel with ane ☠️ did ane give a reason onto why they voted ziel?
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SUNNY!!
it also doesn't help that im voting ziel with ane ☠️ did ane give a reason onto why they voted ziel?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:47 p.m.
Sr
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I Sr them
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Guillo
Then what is it?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:48 p.m.
Now currently I think it's more scum behavior, you can find out why if you ISO me
2:48 p.m.
And you did so
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Guillo
So no, sunny and ane are not a team
I agree with the conclusion, just not with the reason
2:49 p.m.
I rn would vote ziel over abyss
2:50 p.m.
But i dont want abyss and im not convinced i’d want ziel
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Guillo
Are you admitting that the reasons people scum lean you for are legit?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:50 p.m.
Well idk if I'm being overwhatever or smth, I need to look at the points to see if i can actually refute them. All I can say from my memory is that I'm trying my hardest in this game so that's why I was trying so much at the beginning and I never "froze" in this game
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Even if abyss is maf i can afford leaving him one more day alive given his lack of potential teammates
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charlie
He gotta go
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:50 p.m.
Idk why you're wanting to get rid of me so badly istg
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She is stubborn af you should know this by now
2:51 p.m.
Lol
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RUANCYWNCYAKCTFCOQCYAN
2:51 p.m.
screaming
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You are
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Dont deny it
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I am too
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A little bit 😪
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Nothing wrong with being stubborn
2:52 p.m.
Except when you’re wrong
2:52 p.m.
Which you are rn
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But it’s ok
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@charlie tell me one possible partner of abyss that isnt eoth or sunny
2:52 p.m.
ONE
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Anemoia/Abyss
Well idk if I'm being overwhatever or smth, I need to look at the points to see if i can actually refute them. All I can say from my memory is that I'm trying my hardest in this game so that's why I was trying so much at the beginning and I never "froze" in this game
But you said that people scum leaning you had good arguments (paraphrase), how can you say this if you have not even looked at the points to refute them?
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But I don’t understand how one single thing excuses the fact his overall game is scum? If he truely is town, I will apologize, but I hope he never plays like this again if he is town, because there is nothing townie about him in my eyes.
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charlie
But I don’t understand how one single thing excuses the fact his overall game is scum? If he truely is town, I will apologize, but I hope he never plays like this again if he is town, because there is nothing townie about him in my eyes.
His overall game isnt scum
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Ngekop
@charlie tell me one possible partner of abyss that isnt eoth or sunny
You actually? I just don’t understand how you are excusing his whole gameplay over one comment
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charlie
You actually? I just don’t understand how you are excusing his whole gameplay over one comment
Yeah sure
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He couldn’t even tell me a single townie thing he has done
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Ngekop
Even if abyss is maf i can afford leaving him one more day alive given his lack of potential teammates
Bruh what? If we think be is mafia, we kill mafia
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I would 100% limit the potential partners of my partner this hard
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Idk what that means
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Guillo
Bruh what? If we think be is mafia, we kill mafia
He isnt any close to being my hardest sr
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Ngekop
I would 100% limit the potential partners of my partner this hard
And then defend him this hard as well
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charlie
Idk what that means
Im telling you
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He could be the special mafia role
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charlie
He could be the special mafia role
The special mafia role is bs to me
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You need him to find masons
2:54 p.m.
JJKGetoShrug1 JJKGetoShrug2 Sam’s game with Dec as his parnter
2:54 p.m.
Perfect example of that
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If im goon i wont prioritize my partner over me
2:54 p.m.
Just bc of that ability
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charlie
JJKGetoShrug1 JJKGetoShrug2 Sam’s game with Dec as his parnter
When did this happen
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Ngekop
When did this happen
Keatons first game
2:55 p.m.
Remember
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It wasnt with dec
2:55 p.m.
It was vee
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Ngekop
He isnt any close to being my hardest sr
Ok but what you said is different, you said even if he was mafia we let him for the lack of potential partners he has and sorry but no, if we believe he is mafia, we execute him and worry about the partner later
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And that’s different
2:55 p.m.
That setup had potential tracker AND jailkeeper
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Guillo
Because he played in Deck Mafia as scum, that's howv
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:55 p.m.
Did I? I don't remember that...
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Having two masons in the game fucks up scum bc they have two confirmed town
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Like 2/3 setups had mafia screwed if rolecop went down early and mafia didnt kill pr
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charlie
Having two masons in the game fucks up scum bc they have two confirmed town
So?
2:56 p.m.
You have 3 kills
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You can kill them then
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Not if u don’t know who masons r?
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You only get one check
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That’s
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Not that relevant
2:56 p.m.
It’s a night 1 rolecop
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Anemoia/Abyss
Did I? I don't remember that...
You dont because you left the game without a warning
2:57 p.m.
You just left
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It literally just makes it at best 4 checks over 3
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Why is this game so town sided then if it’s only night one 💀
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charlie
Why is this game so town sided then if it’s only night one 💀
It isnt
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charlie
So ur basically trying to waste everybody’s time good to know
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:57 p.m.
Idk why you're so irritated about this lol
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Mason9er is lowkey balanced as it usually is
2:57 p.m.
And how it usually is
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Anemoia/Abyss
Idk why you're so irritated about this lol
Bc ur creating FILLER??
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Is with 2 goons
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charlie
Bc ur creating FILLER??
Not really
2:57 p.m.
He sr’d ziel and said why
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charlie
And give ur own opinions
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:58 p.m.
I have
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He didnt like my vote on guillo and said why
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Why did he even scum read ziel again
2:58 p.m.
Is it the same as what everybody else thinks
2:58 p.m.
Probs
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charlie
Why did he even scum read ziel again
So you havent even read that
2:58 p.m.
Good to know
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I forgot?
2:58 p.m.
Oh it’s bc she’s weird
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 2:58 p.m.
Anyways let's not talk about the thingy because it's waste of time, I just wanted to let out my opinion
2:58 p.m.
Yeah that’s a good reason
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@SUNNY!! can you not
2:59 p.m.
Imma hammer if no one unvoted
2:59 p.m.
So unvote rn
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Unvotes*
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Don’t
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Hammervv
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??
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Then unvote
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You have
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5 minutes
2:59 p.m.
If no one unvotes in 5 minutes i hammer
2:59 p.m.
Go ahead u won’t dare too
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I promise on my discord account
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charlie
Go ahead u won’t dare too
I already promised
3:00 p.m.
That’s like a personal commitment
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I cant get myself outside from
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Im telling y’all i just made this stronger than what i can usually handle
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I’ll hammer in 4 minutes
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If no one unvotes
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Not reaction test
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Legit serious
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I DONT want to hammer
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Ngekop
If im goon i wont prioritize my partner over me
Yup unless that other person is someone i consider better than me. In other words, someone i 100% believe they can carry
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But i hate this state
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Guillo
Yup unless that other person is someone i consider better than me. In other words, someone i 100% believe they can carry
>=
3:01 p.m.
Tbh
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But yes
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Which no offense
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Wouldnt ever be the case with abyss
3:01 p.m.
@SUNNY!! im serious
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Unvote
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3 minutes
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Idk why u r threating to hammer like??
3:01 p.m.
You dont want a hammer
3:01 p.m.
I dont want abyss
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Guillo
But you said that people scum leaning you had good arguments (paraphrase), how can you say this if you have not even looked at the points to refute them?
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:01 p.m.
Because at the time(I forgot the points, everyone should know that I have bad memory about now) I couldn't refute them/didn't really know how to refute the statements
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2 minutes
3:02 p.m.
Someone unvotes or abyss goes (spoiler alert: will most likely flip town and if he is maf then we just win but idts)
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What happened to hammering early is stupid?
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Ty guillo
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Guillo
What happened to hammering early is stupid?
It is
3:02 p.m.
So is voting abyss today imo
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Then why the countdown
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Guillo
Then why the countdown
To either force someone to unvote
3:03 p.m.
Or get people to be as annoyed as i am
3:03 p.m.
I also warned it
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And lowkey im a hammerer
3:03 p.m.
So am i
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Geezus
3:03 p.m.
So
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You are like my clone
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I dont want a person im not voting and i dont wany
3:03 p.m.
At L-1
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want*
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Okay well I want this person
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I’ll do whatever is in my hands for abyss not to go d1
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U want Gullio out?
3:04 p.m.
Which is why??
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Not really
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Anemoia/Abyss
Because at the time(I forgot the points, everyone should know that I have bad memory about now) I couldn't refute them/didn't really know how to refute the statements
Give me a readlist please
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Then why r u voting them
3:04 p.m.
Who do u want out over abyss
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Oh i def would probs vote guillo before voting abyss
3:05 p.m.
Im not voting bc idk who to vote rn
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Ngekop
Oh i def would probs vote guillo before voting abyss
Huh?
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Ziel is def an option
3:05 p.m.
But if i vote ziel
3:05 p.m.
I kinda make it 3-3 in those two
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You are saying you townread Abyss more than me?
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And limit today to ziel or abyss
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Guillo
You are saying you townread Abyss more than me?
I think abyss is more likely to end up being town than you
3:06 p.m.
Bc i respect your scum game way more tbf
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Ngekop
I think abyss is more likely to end up being town than you
Towncase Abyss then?
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I tl both rn
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Guillo
Towncase Abyss then?
I did already state my thoughts
3:06 p.m.
Not only the dumbtell
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We are all so creative in here
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His approach to my vote on guillo
3:06 p.m.
Felt like genuinely smth bothering him
3:07 p.m.
And idt he would be bothered by that as scum
3:07 p.m.
What i disliked there
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So you'd execute me first out of respect for my scum game? Lol A fear lynch?
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Was he took a logic approach
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Guillo
So you'd execute me first out of respect for my scum game? Lol A fear lynch?
No
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I dont know how to feel about that? Flattered or Annoyed?
3:09 p.m.
Im not voting anemoia today
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For the simple fact that my two scum reads are on it
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If i had a tied vote in you/abyss tho i would vote you bc i tl both but i think you are more likely to end up being maf than him
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Guillo
Im not voting anemoia today
<3
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How about we execute Ziel?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:13 p.m.
Yrah sorry about that
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Oops
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SUNNY!!
Why
What r u thinking
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Anemoia/Abyss
Yrah sorry about that
Huh?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:13 p.m.
It didn't reply to the message-
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:13 p.m.
It was fore leaving deck mafia
3:14 p.m.
I do remember you talked to me about it
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So idk if guillo actually has meta on you
3:15 p.m.
Sunny
3:15 p.m.
If you sr ziel
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Why are you voting abyss
3:15 p.m.
Ik you dont tr abyss either
3:16 p.m.
But you had ziel even lower iirc
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My screaming may have convinced them nods
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:16 p.m.
Maybe do yelling next time
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Anemoia/Abyss
Maybe do yelling next time
Yeah ur right 😭
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:16 p.m.
Screaming does hurt the throat sometimes
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Me typing in caps 😠😠
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:16 p.m.
Anyways more backreading... Yay
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@genesischaos hi
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charlie
Oh it’s bc she’s weird
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:18 p.m.
Have you even ISO'd me? You'd know more on why if you actually did
3:18 p.m.
You can't just sum it all up to one thing I said
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Oops
3:19 p.m.
Wait... Not oops
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Anemoia/Abyss
Have you even ISO'd me? You'd know more on why if you actually did
She clearly has not
3:20 p.m.
Guillo/ziel indeed might not be it
3:20 p.m.
Anyways
3:20 p.m.
I think this needs to go without saying but masons dont out unless you seem like you’re getting voted at ANY point in the game
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Ngekop
I’ll do whatever is in my hands for abyss not to go d1
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:20 p.m.
You're really not wanting me to go D1
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Anemoia/Abyss
You're really not wanting me to go D1
Indeed
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Guillo
Give me a readlist please
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:21 p.m.
Hold on a sec
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Ngekop
I think this needs to go without saying but masons dont out unless you seem like you’re getting voted at ANY point in the game
This also includes F5 lylo if we ml d1 and d2
3:21 p.m.
Ofc no one votes there
3:22 p.m.
Without asking x person to claim
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charlie
What r u thinking
im leaning less towards ziel being scum, still don't TL her though ISOed ane and im starting to think they're more scummy; keeps saying they're going to backread but keeps replying to convos and repeating the same things, https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1170072608901963806 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1170072608901963806 found these weird too, this just comes across as them being nervous or aggressive since it's phrased in a way where they aren't looking for an actual answer 😭 their SR on ziel are things that have already been noticed and brought up, nothing really unique in there 💔
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SUNNY!!
im leaning less towards ziel being scum, still don't TL her though ISOed ane and im starting to think they're more scummy; keeps saying they're going to backread but keeps replying to convos and repeating the same things, https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1170072608901963806 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1170072608901963806 found these weird too, this just comes across as them being nervous or aggressive since it's phrased in a way where they aren't looking for an actual answer 😭 their SR on ziel are things that have already been noticed and brought up, nothing really unique in there 💔
nods
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Guillo
Funny
Mhm
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Because your initial scum leans on Calla and Lily were based on things already said back then
3:25 p.m.
You were echoing my thoughts
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Ok 👍 Sure I was
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Yes, you were, so how come that is scum indicative when you yourself have done it?
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Im p sure
3:26 p.m.
Eoth and genesis would vote ziel over abyss
3:26 p.m.
So im still not particularly worried about that
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Guillo
Yes, you were, so how come that is scum indicative when you yourself have done it?
I didn't do that,, I initially SLed Calla and Lily due to it seeming like they were partners, with the voting habits and lily asking for reads on calla, asking calla to vote with them, bla bla if that's someone you noticed as well at the time, i don't see how that matters 😭
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@genesischaos @EasyOnTheHills wya btw
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@EasyOnTheHills where are you? You are acting like scum who is happy that town is defending you, ngl
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SUNNY!!
I didn't do that,, I initially SLed Calla and Lily due to it seeming like they were partners, with the voting habits and lily asking for reads on calla, asking calla to vote with them, bla bla if that's someone you noticed as well at the time, i don't see how that matters 😭
Right, which came after i said so
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Guillo
Right, which came after i said so
And with the reasons eoth gave
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And the thing is, you agreed with my reads on them but you null read me instead of townleaning me even though we were allegedly mindmelding
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Imma just say
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You already asked why I did that And I answered you
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Sunny can easily be mafia
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So there is that hole in your logic
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If i die tn
3:30 p.m.
That’s legacy frfr
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SUNNY!!
You already asked why I did that And I answered you
And i dont belueve you
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Sunny can easily be mafia
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I can't control whether you believe me or not 🤷‍♂️ That's your opinion
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SUNNY!!
I can't control whether you believe me or not 🤷‍♂️ That's your opinion
It is not just an opinion, it is evidence of holes in your logic, evidence of inconsistencies
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if you say so
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SUNNY!!
im leaning less towards ziel being scum, still don't TL her though ISOed ane and im starting to think they're more scummy; keeps saying they're going to backread but keeps replying to convos and repeating the same things, https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1170072608901963806 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1170072608901963806 found these weird too, this just comes across as them being nervous or aggressive since it's phrased in a way where they aren't looking for an actual answer 😭 their SR on ziel are things that have already been noticed and brought up, nothing really unique in there 💔
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:33 p.m.
Not nervousness or aggressiveness, if anything I was annoyed
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And also there is nothing wrong with saying they are gonna backread and decide they wanna real time.
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the main thing is that they keep repeating, and then come back with little to nothing 💔
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So in your opinion, he has posted only garbage?
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Anemoia/Abyss
Hold on a sec
Yah im waiting mate
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Guillo
So in your opinion, he has posted only garbage?
some of it the other stuff just seems like reads achieved by skimming or not actually reading and taking pieces from others before you use the same argument, my reads on calla and lily were from me actually reading up, whether they were similar to yours really isn't a big thing to me? if i noticed something too, i can also point it out 🤷‍♂️ you don't have complete ownership on those reads
3:42 p.m.
on my read with ane, while also not having much behind the reads on ziel, i feel it's something that has been talked about A LOT, and could easily have been brought up quickly and used to make themselves look less scummy by at least having one read
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SUNNY!!
some of it the other stuff just seems like reads achieved by skimming or not actually reading and taking pieces from others before you use the same argument, my reads on calla and lily were from me actually reading up, whether they were similar to yours really isn't a big thing to me? if i noticed something too, i can also point it out 🤷‍♂️ you don't have complete ownership on those reads
My biggest issue with it is that you null read me even though you claim we mindmelded, you'd think that if you are town and someone had a similar thought before you then they aught to be town too
3:44 p.m.
And you have no reason to fear me or respect my scum play as we have never played
3:44 p.m.
So it is super odd
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SUNNY!!
some of it the other stuff just seems like reads achieved by skimming or not actually reading and taking pieces from others before you use the same argument, my reads on calla and lily were from me actually reading up, whether they were similar to yours really isn't a big thing to me? if i noticed something too, i can also point it out 🤷‍♂️ you don't have complete ownership on those reads
Doesnt the same apply to abyss then tho
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SUNNY!!
on my read with ane, while also not having much behind the reads on ziel, i feel it's something that has been talked about A LOT, and could easily have been brought up quickly and used to make themselves look less scummy by at least having one read
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:47 p.m.
You don't look less scummy by having a read-
3:47 p.m.
Also I'm back
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Guillo
My biggest issue with it is that you null read me even though you claim we mindmelded, you'd think that if you are town and someone had a similar thought before you then they aught to be town too
i never used the word "mindmelded" while i agreed on the lily/calla thing at the time, i don't think that makes it so you automatically go to the top of my town list? even so, i posted the descending readlist a good while after this, so my opinions clearly have changed i don't know your scum play, true, but I don't know your town play either 😭
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:47 p.m.
Imma be extremely busy today
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Ngekop
Doesnt the same apply to abyss then tho
did you read the text right below it
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Anemoia/Abyss
Imma be extremely busy today
So no readlist?
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 3:50 p.m.
Sadly, it might not happen, although I'll try to do one now if no one asks me a dozen questions
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Ignore the questions, make me a readlist please
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Guillo
And you have no reason to fear me or respect my scum play as we have never played
Tbf multiple people have hyped you up
4:11 p.m.
Vc is abysmal
4:11 p.m.
We need to decide on at least 2 wagons
4:11 p.m.
@Guillo where you at rn reads wise
4:12 p.m.
@Ngekop same for u as I'm alive
4:12 p.m.
Lily/abyss/calla towns i think
4:12 p.m.
Guillo town i’d guess too
4:13 p.m.
Sunny’s role starting with “Ma”
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nuh uh
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@lilypetal
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Ngekop
Sunny’s role starting with “Ma”
Hm
4:31 p.m.
That's wrong probs
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lilypetal
@Guillo where you at rn reads wise
Im at Ngekop, EOTH, Callahan as town And immediate PoE Ziel, Sunny and Ane
4:41 p.m.
With the rest sort of in the middle
4:42 p.m.
You?
4:43 p.m.
I want Ziel or Sunny first but i can compromise on Ane
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I found ziel and sunny both kinda towny
4:44 p.m.
Ane hasn't improved from what I've seen
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If i wanted to force myself into townreading Ziel, it would be for their total disregard for how they are perceived
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-03 4:47 p.m.
Null: EOTH - Need more messages Genesis - Need more messages Lily - ↓ Callahan - So much happening with these two that I need to focus on them when night starts (I'll continue later, we're doing lots of house work
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that's it?? 😭 those aren't even reads
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At hammer
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i mean now it's at hammer ☠
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If Anemoia is town here, i will want some explanations from their behavior cause this is how i expect a townie to behave
4:54 p.m.
Post game
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Guillo
I want Ziel or Sunny first but i can compromise on Ane
Why are you voting him when ziel is the counter wagon and you prefer ziel
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Because im willing to compromise on Anemoia
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Anemoia/Abyss
Null: EOTH - Need more messages Genesis - Need more messages Lily - ↓ Callahan - So much happening with these two that I need to focus on them when night starts (I'll continue later, we're doing lots of house work
You wont have a night bro
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Do you have a problem
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You’re getting voted
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Guillo
If Anemoia is town here, i will want some explanations from their behavior cause this is how i expect a townie to behave
Wat
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I thought so
4:55 p.m.
I didnt stutter
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Guillo
Do you have a problem
Yes
4:55 p.m.
That you have
4:55 p.m.
No need to compromise
4:56 p.m.
Bc it’s either abyss or ziel in this moment
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Yes, townies compromiy
4:56 p.m.
compromise
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When they cant get the lynch they want
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They compromise
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But you rn have
4:56 p.m.
Either the lynch you want
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Or your compromise
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Why would you vote ziel
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Is what i dont get
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The lynch i want was at two votes
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Guillo
The lynch i want was at two votes
With me being potential 3rd
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And lily townreads her
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Ngekop
With me being potential 3rd
Well too late
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And i town lean abyss harder than most of the people?
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Guillo
Well too late
Ok then
4:57 p.m.
@Caitlin
4:58 p.m.
Is that supposed to do something?
4:58 p.m.
I intend to hammer rn
4:59 p.m.
But i hate waiting for flips even more than i do waiting for hammer
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Yah go ahead
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Abyss COULD be mafia
4:59 p.m.
I accept that
4:59 p.m.
But not bc of the reasons he is being pushed for
4:59 p.m.
Which is what concerns me
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He is clearly uncooperative
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For instance rn idt his wagon is pure ever
5:00 p.m.
Unless he is maf with eoth
5:00 p.m.
Which i would still go against thinking
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Btw
5:01 p.m.
Abi’s law says
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I dont care, i gave him a chance, i gave him time to post his thoughts and a readlist
5:02 p.m.
That is not a readlist
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Ziel/abyss/sunny/calla had a maf
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It is worse than Ziel readlist tbf
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You arent wrong
5:02 p.m.
He did post thoughts before tbf
5:02 p.m.
In an orginized way
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P similar to what a list would be
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Where? I didnt see it
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Anyways i feel awful rn
5:03 p.m.
I hope it isnt covid
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Bro i hope too, that is what i got
5:03 p.m.
It’s the worse
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i got it too it was the worst 😔
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This is why i don’t understand Ane or Ziel’s behavior, im here busting my ass with a fever while they are here trolling and playing stupid little mind games, or just wasting my time. If they are town im gonna be really disappointed
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Anemoia/Abyss
I haven't made a read list so I haven't been keeping track of them
@Guillo from here
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SUNNY!!
i got it too it was the worst 😔
I’ve got it like 3 times now
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Guillo
This is why i don’t understand Ane or Ziel’s behavior, im here busting my ass with a fever while they are here trolling and playing stupid little mind games, or just wasting my time. If they are town im gonna be really disappointed
I mean
5:07 p.m.
No way they are both scum bussing each other like this d1
5:08 p.m.
Otherwise it’d be even MORE disappointing
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Ngekop
@Guillo from here
That readlist has a fence of the size of my house
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Not really
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Yes really, they are not compromising either way
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Sunny town, me tl, ended up with ziel sr
5:09 p.m.
Ok so imma be honest
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If i hammer it will be for selfish purposes
5:10 p.m.
Bc if abyss is mafia and i dont vote him then i almost never make it next round
5:10 p.m.
Bc im confident if he is maf and goes d1
5:10 p.m.
Then we just win
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id say only hammer if you really believe yourself that abyss is mafia, and not because you just don't wanna get lynched tomorrow 💔
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And if he is town then i make it next round 90% of the time bc im not one of the clowns voting him d1
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SUNNY!!
id say only hammer if you really believe yourself that abyss is mafia, and not because you just don't wanna get lynched tomorrow 💔
Uh
5:11 p.m.
If he is maf and i get voted tomorrow y’all are dumber than i thought
5:12 p.m.
Idc about that either way bc im confident i can narrow it down to 2 people if he is maf
5:12 p.m.
Meaning i win even without making sure i dont get ml’d
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Ngekop
And if he is town then i make it next round 90% of the time bc im not one of the clowns voting him d1
Or well getting him lynched*
5:13 p.m.
In the case i hammer
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What you are doing is scummy
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Well that is too bad because you should
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I think the fact i have no need to do/say this
5:14 p.m.
No matter what he is
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As scum
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Makes that irrelevant
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Not even entering wifom territory
5:14 p.m.
Just making it NAI
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No, it’s WIFOM hence why it is scummy
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Bc either im just doing smth unnecessary as scum or speaking my mind in an unconventional way as town
5:15 p.m.
It isnt towny hence no wifom involved
5:15 p.m.
Idek in which scenario is this scummy
5:15 p.m.
Where he flips maf or where he flips town
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Im not gonna let you come in tomorrow and say hey i would never defend a scum partner like this, if ane flips scum
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Ok if he flips scum
5:16 p.m.
I mean if he is maf then this is a win nmw
5:16 p.m.
And i hate the fact i might not make it just bc some people got lucky
5:16 p.m.
Bc most of the votes on him arent for valid reasons
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You are arrogant
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Maybe but it doesnt change the fact
5:17 p.m.
Most of the people voting him rn
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Arent doing so for valid reasons
5:17 p.m.
For instance calla and ziel def arent
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That is your opinion not a fact
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And idt sunny’s points are good either bc that’s how he got there
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Guillo
That is your opinion not a fact
P sure it’s a fact especially on ziel
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You cant know it is a fact without TMI
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Calla has been confbias for the last 24h
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Guillo
You cant know it is a fact without TMI
Yes i can
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No you cant
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(Unless they are bussing in which case it’s just dumb)
5:18 p.m.
Yes i can
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Bc they
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Gave the reasons
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They had
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And pushed them
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For THOSE reasons
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Which i can know arent valid
5:19 p.m.
If abyss is maf then his partner is not guillo/calla/lily EVER and p much never genesis and highly unlikely ziel
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The only thing that is gonna get me to back off is if Ane is a mason, which i doubt he is because they would have claimed by now
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Which leaves
5:19 p.m.
Sunny and eoth
5:20 p.m.
I seriously dont think this kid is maf
5:20 p.m.
He doesnt make sense as scum in almost any world
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Guillo
The only thing that is gonna get me to back off is if Ane is a mason, which i doubt he is because they would have claimed by now
I thought he was before
5:20 p.m.
Then he dumbtold p much claiming he wasnt
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Ngekop
He doesnt make sense as scum in almost any world
And even in this world he is townier than his potential partners to me
5:21 p.m.
Which is funny
5:21 p.m.
Sunny and eoth are more likely to be scum than abyss is
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Ok
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Eod
5:21 p.m.
Sorry sunny
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One of the main things
5:23 p.m.
Making me believe he could be maf
5:23 p.m.
Is him taking logical approaches to express critical feelings over specific circumstances
5:24 p.m.
Instead of just yk
5:24 p.m.
Expressing them out the way they are and he gets them
5:24 p.m.
Either i hammer a mafia or y’all get what y’all deserve
5:24 p.m.
So yeah
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What you all deserve?
5:25 p.m.
Eod
5:25 p.m.
@Caitlin
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End of Day
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Day 2 Top
Caitlin pinned a message to this channel. 2023-11-04 6:49 p.m.
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Very disappointed that Anemoia was not scum
7:06 p.m.
And thank you Mafia, for killing Nge, without that kill i would have come in this channel tunneling the crap out of him
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## Masons, whoever you are, please claim today to build a winning towncore
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how would that "build a winning towncore"
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Because there are 9 players left and only so many possible options for whom had any motivation to kill Nge over myself. Masons claiming today us the iptimal play because we gain two inno childs and mafia can only kill one per night
7:10 p.m.
9 or 7
7:11 p.m.
7
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Yah today is the day to claim to form a voltron
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if ya say so guess we'll wait and see if they decide to claim, cause im not one 🤷‍♂️ it'd suck if it's one of the inacs
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SUNNY!!
if ya say so guess we'll wait and see if they decide to claim, cause im not one 🤷‍♂️ it'd suck if it's one of the inacs
Totally the contrary, if it is in the LHFs even better! Because mafia will have a tough choice between killing the lhf or a loud voice
7:15 p.m.
Ive played this set up before, i was Mason, claimed on day 1 and mopped the floor with mafia
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Low hanging fruits
7:16 p.m.
People whom are perceived as easy to yeet
7:17 p.m.
Mafia made a huge mistake killing Nge because both of us alive would have continued in a clashing. No tunnel = Better town chances
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oh bet bet nge dying wasn't really surprising considering he was the most active one maybe he pushed a maf at some point? really not sure why else they'd kill him
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You really fucked up lol
7:19 p.m.
ok
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Ok what
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what did i fuck up on 😔
7:20 p.m.
Lol
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Guillo
Mafia made a huge mistake killing Nge because both of us alive would have continued in a clashing. No tunnel = Better town chances
Referring to this
7:21 p.m.
Why did you think it was you?
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you said "you" and i got confused mb 😭
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SUNNY!!
oh bet bet nge dying wasn't really surprising considering he was the most active one maybe he pushed a maf at some point? really not sure why else they'd kill him
The night 1 kill is the most important kill for Mafia
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i am aware thank you
7:25 p.m.
☺
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Maybe it’s because he fake softed Mason yes, but i did as well so it gotta ve more than that
7:27 p.m.
Maybe it’s because he had Sunny and Ziel in PoE
7:27 p.m.
But so did i
7:27 p.m.
Activity? We both were
7:29 p.m.
We were both testing and each other, suspecting each other, finding each other town but with caution at the end
7:29 p.m.
Could be to preemptively break up a potential powerful alliance but that is an arrogant thought
7:30 p.m.
Or could be because he placed Ziel and Callahan as poorest reasons to vote out Anemoia
7:33 p.m.
So Ziel, Sunny, Callahan and myself had possible motive to kill Nge but I know that I’m town, so the immediate PoE right now is Sunny Ziel Callahan But i’ll wait for the mason claim
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Not me being in this poe :(
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excluding the new guy?
7:34 p.m.
garlic bread dude
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### Masons, it is important that you claim today to inno child yourselves and build a towncore, dont wait until lylo to claim as you can be fake counterclaim and town may be forced to a wring decision
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I thought Nge was mason im ngl
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charlie
I thought Nge was mason im ngl
I thought he was mason with you and that he was distancing from you lol
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Guillo
I thought he was mason with you and that he was distancing from you lol
I thought he was masons with Sunny 😭
7:36 p.m.
he's mean
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Guillo
So Ziel, Sunny, Callahan and myself had possible motive to kill Nge but I know that I’m town, so the immediate PoE right now is Sunny Ziel Callahan But i’ll wait for the mason claim
What would be my motive to kill Nge?
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My eyes are hurting like a mfer
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I'm really cold rn idk why
7:37 p.m.
I'm shivering and stuff and my hands are cold
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my dog keeps looking at me 💔
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Skinwalker...?
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i mean i hope not
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I still have to reread day one, I'm not going to lie, I was pissed at Ane
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charlie
What would be my motive to kill Nge?
He accused you of having poor reasons to execute Anemoia, of being confbiased
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But, now Im just pissed at myself, bc I feel like I should of realized
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Guillo
He accused you of having poor reasons to execute Anemoia, of being confbiased
what about ziel?
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Guillo
He accused you of having poor reasons to execute Anemoia, of being confbiased
So, I would kill Nge over that when Nge town read me?
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SUNNY!!
what about ziel?
Ziel was just in his PoE
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I felt like my reasons on Ane were solid
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ajahdjebshs
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charlie
So, I would kill Nge over that when Nge town read me?
Yes, in fear of reconsideration or maybe he sussed your partner
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Guillo
Yes, in fear of reconsideration or maybe he sussed your partner
He said I had no partners basically
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charlie
He said I had no partners basically
Show me please
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The people he paired me up with was like uh idk
7:40 p.m.
Lemme find it
7:41 p.m.
I know i should look for it myself but playing while sick is no fun
7:41 p.m.
I was hoping i’d get killed and didnt have to worry about it anymore
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No, I wanted to die too LOL
7:42 p.m.
I have in my confessional that nge is so lucky he died
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wgat why 💔
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The fact our like
7:42 p.m.
game
7:42 p.m.
is the only game who didnt vote out scum day one
7:42 p.m.
is SENDING me
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And we spoke the mos
7:42 p.m.
most
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Plus “oh shit, mafia did me a favor, how cool”
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How did mafia do u a favor
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By killing Nge
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Well didnt u think he was mason tho
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I was convinced he was scum overnight
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I was ready to bring it all out today
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What would u say
7:44 p.m.
If he was alive still
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Many things, not worth talking about it now as he is dead and flipped town, talking about it would be just fluff
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Oh okay
7:44 p.m.
I was just curious
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Yah i just dont want to fill the game with fluff and give mafia an opportunity to talk about useless crap
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I cant find it
7:46 p.m.
but Im going to reread day one anyways
7:46 p.m.
and I'll link it when i do find it
7:46 p.m.
but he said it a lot
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But yah, killing him was mafia’s worst mistake cause im confident that with masons outing today, we win
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what if they don't out though
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I thought masons out on d3 in this theme
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They’d be throwing in my opinion but at least i tried
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charlie
I thought masons out on d3 in this theme
No
7:48 p.m.
They out before lylo
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So why r we doing it so early
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Because right now it is before lylo.
7:48 p.m.
If we dont execute mafia today
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Day 3 is lylo
7:48 p.m.
how r we at mylo rn?
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Not mylo
7:49 p.m.
We are not at lylo or mylo
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Okay so why do u want masons to claim
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We are at the perfect stage to out the masons because mafia will not dear to CC the real masons
7:50 p.m.
Dare
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Okay let me actually think about what u are saying
7:50 p.m.
Bc i feel like there is a huge flaw to this
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If Mafia CCs today and we eliminate the actual town mason, we know who we execute tomorrow
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Why would Mafia cc
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charlie
Bc i feel like there is a huge flaw to this
There is no flaw to this, ive won in this set up many times, this is a townsided set up
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I swear someone told me it was scum sided
7:51 p.m.
or maybe i said it was
7:52 p.m.
I think i spoke to this about nge in this
7:52 p.m.
Oh yeah
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charlie
Why would Mafia cc
Mafia will not CC today without willing to trade 1 for 1 with town
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bc i thought scum had complusive rolecheck
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That is another thing, maybe mafia already know who one mason is
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I'm not going to lie, I'm really tired right now, so I'll get back to you later on this, but I'm pretty sure like I don't think this is the right call?
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Town wins the gane by opening the game up today
7:54 p.m.
It is not the right call if you are mafia
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No, there is like a huge flaw
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Mafia dont want this
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I think its because the masons just die
7:54 p.m.
back to back
7:54 p.m.
Yeah I'm pretty sure thats it
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Who cares, mafia can only kill one at a time
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I don't think u are realizing that it's better for a cit to die tn then a mason
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We’ll still have an inno child left after the first one dies
7:55 p.m.
Calla you are sus right now
7:55 p.m.
dude idc
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Dont AtE me calla
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Someone not agreeing with u doesnt mean they r sus
7:56 p.m.
I'm not AtEing
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Anyway Masons, out today and i GUARANTEE YOU we win this game, scum is fucked right now
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We have 7 people left
7:57 p.m.
hold up
7:57 p.m.
2 ppl claim so 5
7:57 p.m.
then we vote someone out so 4
7:57 p.m.
then mason dies
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Do masons die if they claim?
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2 out of that 5 is mafia
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Guillo
Do masons die if they claim?
well yeah?
7:58 p.m.
Why would mafia keep them in?
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charlie
well yeah?
Like automatically?
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no at night?
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are we
7:59 p.m.
talking about the same game rn
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they don't get gunned down because they claimed 😭 are you fr
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Ok then why are you making the count like that, that is misleading
7:59 p.m.
Mafia cannot kill both the same night
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SUNNY!!
they don't get gunned down because they claimed 😭 are you fr
keep reading?
7:59 p.m.
I said one mason dies
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oh
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i didnt
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type that correctly
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my bad
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Let me do it
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charlie
then mason dies
then a mason die
8:00 p.m.
Idk if its bc Im tired but like
8:00 p.m.
AHHHHHH
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charlie
keep reading?
i meant guillo 😔
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SUNNY!!
i meant guillo 😔
oh :(
8:00 p.m.
sorry
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Dude I seriously thought nge + sunny was mafia, and nge was using sunny to post his real reads
8:01 p.m.
not mafia mason
8:01 p.m.
god im tired
8:01 p.m.
I was like wow nge went low by using sunny like that
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nge kill has to come from a lost wolf team lol
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Best Case Scenario

7 right now Masons claim We execute a mafia Mafia kills a mason Day 3, 5 left. 4 town, 1 Mafia
8:02 p.m.
We mislynch
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he was the main player that spewed themselves not mason
8:03 p.m.
so unless he had god reads
8:03 p.m.
not a good kill
8:03 p.m.
ill need to iso
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I litterally thought he was mason tho 😭
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nah like he was playing rly anti town
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lilypetal
he was the main player that spewed themselves not mason
Lol i thought he was mason with calla
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Bc I thought sunny's read list, was like him coaching sunny
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did u not see him spew himself not mason the entire game?
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lilypetal
did u not see him spew himself not mason the entire game?
But he tagged Calla like a mason would
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tagged?
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Sunny made this read list in a cait's read list style, that sunny has no knowlege of how to do, and I thought Nge was like coaching them or some shit
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I tagged you too to make mafia think we both were masons
8:04 p.m.
Lily
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idk how that ever makes sense
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lilypetal
idk how that ever makes sense
Because it makes people think oh this guy is pointing out a post in secret to his mason partner
8:05 p.m.
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at this point feel it's between lily/ziel/gen, maybe calla maybe maybe sus
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sorry 😔
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its okay
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Guillo
Because it makes people think oh this guy is pointing out a post in secret to his mason partner
wait
8:06 p.m.
do masons not have a chat?
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I think they do
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They are supposed to
8:06 p.m.
then that makes 0 sense
8:06 p.m.
you would just put it in the chat
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Ok sure but maybe scum is not thinking that ahead
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alright
8:07 p.m.
so
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It is all about theatrics
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scum is p easy to parse then right
8:07 p.m.
once masons claim
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we have 5 ppl left
8:07 p.m.
2 is mafia
8:07 p.m.
if masons claim
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we have 7 ppl left in the game
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charlie
we have 7 ppl left in the game
Right now yes
8:08 p.m.
Regardless of claim
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Sorry if i worded that poorly
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nah i understood it
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charlie
if masons claim
grin
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i also think the 2 ppl who just spewed themselves as not masons are town so
8:09 p.m.
i think we win
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We win if masons out today
8:09 p.m.
We build towncore
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if eoth isnt a mason im gonna vote
8:09 p.m.
and not move it
8:09 p.m.
btw
8:10 p.m.
fairly sure i was right
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Eoth subbing out
8:10 p.m.
:(
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subbed
8:10 p.m.
i mean
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well
8:10 p.m.
whoever subbed in
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yea he got replaced by garlic bread guy
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Okay, i'm going to hop out, I'm tired 😔
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garlic bread guy
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But, I'll reread day one later, and give u what u asked Gullio
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@Guillo When did you think Nge was mason, I'm a bit confused because you kept voting him
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@4th Anniversary Finalist yoooooo pull up nito's cool with it so I'll just go ahead and say it we're both the masons 🔥🔥
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We ballin with it
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NO FUCKING WAY EOTH WAS COACHING U
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and nito is eoth's slot?
8:44 p.m.
alright
8:45 p.m.
i think that makes this game really easy
8:45 p.m.
my day 1 play sucked then mb
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charlie
NO FUCKING WAY EOTH WAS COACHING U
I WASNT BEING COACHEF 😭😭
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SUNNY!!
I WASNT BEING COACHEF 😭😭
how did u do cait's readlist then
8:47 p.m.
like where did u learn it 😭
8:47 p.m.
I'm happy my mason read on u was right tho 😍
8:48 p.m.
I was defending day one so hard 😠
8:48 p.m.
u
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charlie
like where did u learn it 😭
I JUST followed the example that nge gave me 😔
8:49 p.m.
i didn't know that was cait's
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uishfiuehrfiured
8:49 p.m.
You did so good omg
8:49 p.m.
how was eoth as ur mason partner
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auugh he was pretty inactive in the chat but not that bad nito isn't here that much either but at least he's a bit better 🙏🏼
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:( eoth is my mentor, give him some praise
8:51 p.m.
he was a rat this game tho 🙄 out of love of course idk what he was cooking
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he was YOUR MENTOR?? dang 😔 i think he was just busy this time around he didn't really give a reason as to why he stepped down
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Yeah, ik hes in another mafia game rn and a org, so I was already thinking he was gonna sub out anyways
8:54 p.m.
plus he has a job
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djdhdird dontcrydontcrydontcr
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😍 u played so well, I just wanna say that
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yippee i joined the tournament to get better so if i really did improve that's sick 🙏🏼
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oh yeah 100%, like u are eating this game up in my opinion
9:00 p.m.
town read right away, gave your thoughts and opinions, pushed for what you believed in
9:00 p.m.
like yes!
9:01 p.m.
thats why ur my number one pick for the draft thingy
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okay ur confirm town r u gonna
9:03 p.m.
drop everything
9:03 p.m.
like all ur thoughts now
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callahan's reaction to claim is kinda weird ngl
9:07 p.m.
sunny + nito conf town
9:07 p.m.
guillo p towny, good play around mech sorta
9:07 p.m.
ziel seems almost..outed?
9:07 p.m.
i they were mason or wolf
9:07 p.m.
i figured*
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yea yea already said who i think the mafia is between, and right now i might go for ziel unless she suddenly comes up with like a crazy good read list i feel like she was pocketing nge and a lot of her stuff was just filler/fluff 💔
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anemoia1011: 5 - Ziel, callahanc, Sunny, Guillo, Ngekop
9:09 p.m.
removing clears, anemoia1011: - Ziel, callahanc, Guillo,
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surely there is a wolf here
9:09 p.m.
cuz like
9:09 p.m.
yeah
9:13 p.m.
i saw you typing 😒
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SUNNY!!
@4th Anniversary Finalist yoooooo pull up nito's cool with it so I'll just go ahead and say it we're both the masons 🔥🔥
Ok. This claim must be believed to be true unless counterclaimed TODAY
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hope it's cced free mafia 🙏🏼
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If anyone waits to counterclaim on day 3, we eliminate the counterclaim
9:15 p.m.
my reads have not been bad, except for Sunny and Nge
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lilypetal
callahan's reaction to claim is kinda weird ngl
it bc i was right and eoth is paired with them and i love eoth
9:17 p.m.
okay so 😍
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id believe guillo's town like i said before, probably a mafia in ziel/gen/lily hoping at least 💔
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I think guillo is town too
9:18 p.m.
lily still null like i spoke about before, i have gen as town tho
9:18 p.m.
ziel is null
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if you think gen's town, then would you rather ziel or lily?
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Ziel over lily rn
9:21 p.m.
Reads : Ngekop - Town ( rip ) Sunny - Town Read Chaos - Town Lean Ziel - Null Lily - Null Ane - Town ( rip ) Guillo - Town lean EOTH - Town Lean
9:22 p.m.
put eoth as town read
9:22 p.m.
Put Sunny and EOTH as mech clear unless counterclaimed today
9:22 p.m.
Not just townread
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oh okay
9:23 p.m.
i cant
9:23 p.m.
edit my post but yes
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Also any reads on the masons from the point of their claim and on are useless, we only backtrack when it comes to interactions with them
9:24 p.m.
@SUNNY!! can you please unvote
9:25 p.m.
We need the full day to try to solve this
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do u think nge was fearkilled or like he was actually a mason read
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I dont want any speed hammers
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didnt u try too make that happen tho
9:25 p.m.
😭
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yea yea forgot maj is four votes 😔
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like with ziel
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charlie
didnt u try too make that happen tho
Yes but we didnt have masons claim, nice shade, bottom to my poe you go
9:26 p.m.
its the truth
9:26 p.m.
i still have u as a town lean soooo
9:26 p.m.
also it wasnt shade at all
9:27 p.m.
i was just saying that u have done it so i find it funny that u r saying it now
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When im yrying to design the optimal play that wins us the game, what is the purpose ofsaying that i wanted to speed hammer yesterday if not to discredit my proposal today
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I just like to yap im ngl
9:27 p.m.
there is no deeper meaning
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It is a shade and a scummy one
9:28 p.m.
We love one sided beef
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Okay I just briefly read the chat but I want to discuss that Anem vote
9:31 p.m.
Initiated by Ziel, then followed up by Callahan and Guillo after they both claimed someone else was more sus
9:32 p.m.
Ane was been my scum lean since like the middle of the game
9:32 p.m.
always
9:32 p.m.
Ziel was null, I choose the one I felt more confident in
9:33 p.m.
Which was my scum lean
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hold on I need to find all of the messages I remembered
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Ngekop
It has to be either sunny or eoth
this
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I sat on Ane for the longest time, then voted Ziel bc Gullio was getting votes and i was hell no, and then when Gullio stopped getting votes, I went back to Ane.
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Okay yeah "I only voted Ziel bc i didnt want u gone"
9:38 p.m.
But according to my ToS logic, it's always the people that tag along to the initial vote (the initial vote can be scum too) that are the most evil
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this isnt ToS
9:39 p.m.
this is real mafia
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And before ngekop died he said that "Guillo's votes are lowkey borderline"
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Im not going to let a town lean be voted out
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I'm aware it's not ToS but I'm applying my own logic/experience that hasn't let me down
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I will softely say this, bc I understand u have to use the knowlege u do know to sort this game out
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Also Guillo was pushing you Calla at the start but I said I thought you were inno
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but in no way form would I personally let my town lean be voted out over a null read ( ziel ), so i shifted to ziel to save him, then when he was dropping votes, I shifted right back to my scum lean ( ane ). I wasn't going to vote EOTH bc he turned into a town lean after speaking with Guillo about it. So what was left was ane. Who was then my only scum lean i had at the time.
9:43 p.m.
which in my view, I think is very reasonable
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so you're saying that you collaborated with Guillo to vote off Ane over someone else
9:44 p.m.
Ane was majority of my vote for a long time
9:44 p.m.
I didnt collab with Gullio
9:44 p.m.
Gullio was the one who made me realize eoth was most likely town
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EOTH was a town lean from the beginning for me, no idea why people were sussing easyonthegameplay
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genesischaos
Ok here is my unsubstantiated schizo post: Order of people I’m sussing after reading messages from specific people Easyonthehills: posted some kinda based memes, sounds like he’s high IQ making long posts and putting thoughts into them, probably town. Anemoia: Kind of talks like me and posts effortful but short msgs. Lilypetal: Getting targeted with Callahan which is interesting considering she was actually being assertive – so I’m sus of the people pushing her. Callahan: Has a similar speech style to Ziel but actually talks more about the game, seems to be friends with Ngekop Guillo: More aggressive than EOTH which is a good sign, but susses Callahan which I disagree with Ngekop: Don’t know how to read this guy, but his speech is very game oriented. Seems to think he’ll be targeted, which I’m sus is a high IQ strat because I know he is quite experienced. SUNNY!!: Doesn’t sus me and is posting effortful messages about the game. However from my experience playing ToS typically accusers are townies so people that don’t sus others are more likely to be evil. Also posted a reaction image to Lily getting sussed rather than offering any real input and then said he didn’t read it. But came up with a long post after so maybe I'm wrong. Ziel: Populating the chat with very short answers full of useless text, and suggested I was scum – I find this sus, but maybe that’s just her personality? (edited)
yes
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I felt like i explained this so much
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Ngekop
Sunny and eoth are more likely to be scum than abyss is
see I'm trying to piece together clues from Ngekop right
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clues?
9:51 p.m.
😭
9:51 p.m.
This isnt a murder mystery
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I mean, it kinda is
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yeah ig, but hes not leaving clues LOL
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Well as I said in my schizo post I know that ngekop is high IQ
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He's not trying to secretly tell us something
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(I'm just going to periodically refer to it as the schizo post)
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that would be poor to his game play if hes trying to move on in the tour
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Ngl I have no idea how it works
9:52 p.m.
my friend told me to sign up and so im like ye ok
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r u having fun
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yea
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thats good nods
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i guess you could say
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okay im out i wanna watch surv 😭
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this game is easyonthedifficulty
9:53 p.m.
alright i want to talk to lily and the new guy
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charlie
do u think nge was fearkilled or like he was actually a mason read
i think it's always optimal to mason hunt in this setup
9:56 p.m.
this very fact spews me town tbh
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genesischaos
alright i want to talk to lily and the new guy
sup
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see i would assume its meta for masons to reveal today right
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@charlie the stuff i asked you, did you find it?
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Upon reflection maybe sunny is either maf or mason, but then why not come out earlier when ngekop was pushing him to vote off EOTH?
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genesischaos
But according to my ToS logic, it's always the people that tag along to the initial vote (the initial vote can be scum too) that are the most evil
Townie posted
9:59 p.m.
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Investigator n1 - Invest 3, no blood
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oh i thought you wanted me to post a fake will
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Sunny the Sheriff N1: 3 inno N2: 5 (sus/secrets)
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thats better ^
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genesischaos
oh i thought you wanted me to post a fake will
I dont want any fluff here no
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my fake wills are better 🥱
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nah, sheriff wills are always fake
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nuh uh (i always claim crus so i wouldn't know)
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Masons can do whatever the fuck they want, we work for them, but i'd appreciate if you dont fluff too much
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(i claim Mayor and get hung as Jester, we are not the same)
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Guillo
Masons can do whatever the fuck they want, we work for them, but i'd appreciate if you dont fluff too much
I'm making an observation about sunny's behaviour
10:02 p.m.
see i might have to start calling him windy based on the turbulence of this game
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genesischaos
Upon reflection maybe sunny is either maf or mason, but then why not come out earlier when ngekop was pushing him to vote off EOTH?
I didn't think it'd be good to come out as Mason so early, especially when EOTH wasn't really the top scum lean/read 🤷‍♂️
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So are you claiming mason now
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genesischaos
EOTH was a town lean from the beginning for me, no idea why people were sussing easyonthegameplay
I do
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genesischaos
So are you claiming mason now
yea i did earlier with nito
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Check this out and update yourself instead of playing ToS here
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Guillo
I do
to be fair part of the reason i liked easyonthememes is because of his funny posts
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EOTH main push

current reads so far: Town: Ngekop, Guillo, Anemoia Leans town: Sunny Neutral: Ziel, genisischaos Potential scum: callahan, lilypetal https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169513372685975614 seems like most the day so far has been ngekop vs guillo, which is strange to me if one of them is scum here (though this could just be because they are the most active so far, will have to wait for the day to develop more) Guillo's push is an extremely bold one if scum here, generally coming off as a kinda selfish and headstrong townie Ngekop gives good vibes so far, don't think he's had any poor posts so far and seems to be genuinely interested in advancing the gamestate, which isnt a position I think scum would take right now Anemoia has some more questionable posts, but this comes off to me as a more newbie townie so far, though I would like to see their content improve a bit later on Sunny also gives good vibes but im not sure how much of that so far is charisma rather than actually being townie lilypetal im leaning scum so far, she started the game pretty strong but then quickly switched up her read on callahan and then her reads are kinda very basic after that, reading anemoia as scum isnt wrong but seems strange for her to do after seeing how her read on callahan developed Callahan is scum cause she is SUS, but actually it just feels like shes forcing herself to make posts rather than it being genuine + the lily connection i stated above Ziel and genisischaos havent said anything yet so i cannot really read them, but them being gone so far also makes reads in general pretty unreliable this early on id say. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169521104226877491 Reading ane as scum isn't wrong but going from building a good read on someone to then suddenly changing that read and picking up a super basic one out of nowhere is sus and that was the entire point, the progression of how lily was making reads didn't add up. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169528941275512872
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SUNNY!!
yea i did earlier with nito
how did i miss this
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i pinged the whole chat skill issue 😔
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L bozo 😦
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SUNNY!!
@4th Anniversary Finalist yoooooo pull up nito's cool with it so I'll just go ahead and say it we're both the masons 🔥🔥
okay cool
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Look at that readlist, just on skim he got 4 town lol
10:05 p.m.
Why did he leave, he would have advanced
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"Callahan is scum cause she is SUS" Why
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genesischaos
"Callahan is scum cause she is SUS" Why
Are you gonna read the rest
10:06 p.m.
Or just conveniently leave there
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you have no idea how much i love at emoji
10:06 p.m.
i had to pause to laugh for 15 seconds irl
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yeah no i read it, but you posted it after he came out as mason
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genesischaos
yeah no i read it, but you posted it after he came out as mason
Hmm?
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wait was it a repost
10:07 p.m.
So willingly to discredit me though
10:07 p.m.
I wonder
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?
10:07 p.m.
are you being intentionally dense
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Describe dense
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its an adjective, it means ignorant
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Guillo
@charlie the stuff i asked you, did you find it?
no i havent reread yet but i will probs tomorrow
10:08 p.m.
But i will find it
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Why are you personally attacking me Genesis?
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No, you're misinterpreting my confusion saying "you posted it after he came out as mason" as me discrediting what you're saying
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You posted it Is the You = Guillo? If so Posted it = what?
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You've lost me mate, emotions are hard to communicate via text
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Ok hold on
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what is this convo
10:11 p.m.
like
10:11 p.m.
😭
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i dont know Why
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EOTH main push

current reads so far: Town: Ngekop, Guillo, Anemoia Leans town: Sunny Neutral: Ziel, genisischaos Potential scum: callahan, lilypetal https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169513372685975614 seems like most the day so far has been ngekop vs guillo, which is strange to me if one of them is scum here (though this could just be because they are the most active so far, will have to wait for the day to develop more) Guillo's push is an extremely bold one if scum here, generally coming off as a kinda selfish and headstrong townie Ngekop gives good vibes so far, don't think he's had any poor posts so far and seems to be genuinely interested in advancing the gamestate, which isnt a position I think scum would take right now Anemoia has some more questionable posts, but this comes off to me as a more newbie townie so far, though I would like to see their content improve a bit later on Sunny also gives good vibes but im not sure how much of that so far is charisma rather than actually being townie lilypetal im leaning scum so far, she started the game pretty strong but then quickly switched up her read on callahan and then her reads are kinda very basic after that, reading anemoia as scum isnt wrong but seems strange for her to do after seeing how her read on callahan developed Callahan is scum cause she is SUS, but actually it just feels like shes forcing herself to make posts rather than it being genuine + the lily connection i stated above Ziel and genisischaos havent said anything yet so i cannot really read them, but them being gone so far also makes reads in general pretty unreliable this early on id say. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169521104226877491 Reading ane as scum isn't wrong but going from building a good read on someone to then suddenly changing that read and picking up a super basic one out of nowhere is sus and that was the entire point, the progression of how lily was making reads didn't add up. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1169528941275512872
What does posting this after the masons outed today have to do with what we are talking about? I understood, well, you get no credit for that read because the masons have already outed, without noticing thst it was from EOTH. But the intention was to discredit that evidence without even realizing it was coming from the former Mason. # Why?
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You're wrong in saying I was trying to discredit that evidence, as I've said twice now it was confusion about the origin of that post
10:15 p.m.
But there's no point getting caught up in semantics
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Confuse about what?
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So he was sussing callahan which I always disagreed with, but I also am unsure about the conclusion about me because I was posting (maybe not at the time he was making conclusions)
10:16 p.m.
i need to check if calla and lily were a pair from nge
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We werent
10:17 p.m.
Nge was very strong agasint how we werent paired
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thats right he paired you with me or ziel
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yeah which was just like randomly and like i needed a pair or some shit
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What does that have anything to do with you believing this was MY CASE and immediately trying to discredit me? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1170544080460206150 If you had clicked on the links first, you would have realized it was not from me, why jump the gun and instantly try to discredit me?
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I'm just ignoring you Guillo because you didn't read what I typed at all
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genesischaos
yeah no i read it, but you posted it after he came out as mason
??? @SunnyBunny @Nito i need your input on this please. Because im at the verge of death tunneling this player.
10:22 p.m.
Wrong sunny
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SUNNYBUNNY?? 😭
10:23 p.m.
Lol
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sunnybunny get in here rn
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So @SUNNY!! i post this https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1168969404646699089/1170544080460206150 I say look at that readlist he would have advanced Then genesis says yah but you posted it after the masons claimed, kinda like the read dont matter, without realizing it was from your former partner
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Look I was going to wait until after you got over your temper tantrum, but considering you're still being dishonest let me clarify for you. When you opened the post by saying EOTH main push I assumed you meant that you were pushing EOTH. Then when I explained that my comment was about confusion, you steamrolled through what I said and went off on a tangent about how you linked the post (that I had already read)
10:26 p.m.
I wouldn't be talking about hard pushing anyone after going on a bandwagon to vote off a townie
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If genesis is scum, he just spewed me not partnered with him, but i need second opinions i can trust
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eoth where r u
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genesischaos
I wouldn't be talking about hard pushing anyone after going on a bandwagon to vote off a townie
What is this supposed to mean?
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I'm talking about you feigning outrage and moral superiority after making a bad decision
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5 of us agreed to vote off the townie
10:28 p.m.
And im uninformed so
10:28 p.m.
?
10:28 p.m.
Townies gotta die before we get to mafia
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The point?
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We could of got mafia lowkey idk the other games got their mafias day one 😭
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honestly, it sounds like genesis just made a mistake and was confused, thinking you were trying to push eoth/nito i don't think they were discrediting you, sounds like just a genuine mistake they literally said only a bit after "wait is that a repost" suggesting they realized 💔
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Guillo
??? @SunnyBunny @Nito i need your input on this please. Because im at the verge of death tunneling this player.
"im at the verge of death tunneling this player" who talks like this?
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SUNNY!!
honestly, it sounds like genesis just made a mistake and was confused, thinking you were trying to push eoth/nito i don't think they were discrediting you, sounds like just a genuine mistake they literally said only a bit after "wait is that a repost" suggesting they realized 💔
well Guillo was very excited to ignore what I said and start getting upset
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SUNNY!!
honestly, it sounds like genesis just made a mistake and was confused, thinking you were trying to push eoth/nito i don't think they were discrediting you, sounds like just a genuine mistake they literally said only a bit after "wait is that a repost" suggesting they realized 💔
nods
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genesischaos
"im at the verge of death tunneling this player" who talks like this?
Me, looking at how you were willing to discredit me without making sure who that post come from
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Guillo argues like my dad its wild
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Alright alright
10:30 p.m.
We are playing here
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Ik ik sorry
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If you are gonna go for insults i can leave
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Oh thats not a insult
10:31 p.m.
inslut
10:31 p.m.
sult
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inslut
10:31 p.m.
insult
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*
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charlie
inslut
😂
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I just realized the similarities
10:31 p.m.
Kind of cool in my opinion
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i just say inpepper instead of insult
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insalt
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wait r u talking to me or chaos
10:34 p.m.
My dad comment is not a insult
10:34 p.m.
at all
10:35 p.m.
pls do not think it is 😭
10:35 p.m.
My dad is cool
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charlie
My dad is cool
B)
10:35 p.m.
shocked
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Ok. I dont debate the confusion, i debate that he didnt check thevpost and was readily to tell me, you know what, you dont credit for that readlist as it came too late, without making sure where it was coming from Meaning he didnt even read it before telling me that. And when i questioned him about he goes on defensive mode and calls me dense. Similar to Callahan's overreaction to EOTH except Calla's was even more overblown. So im gonna back off to not let this game become toxic, but genesis to my scum list.
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I didnt think it was becoming toxic, but if u feel it was take ur time
10:36 p.m.
I dont want players upset
10:36 p.m.
and ur feelings r valid
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I'm not going to get caught up with continuing this argument, but you're making the same mistake as earlier
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pls take time for yourself
10:37 p.m.
my react to eoth, me when eoth called me potential scum ReallyMad
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okay off topic but just completed the new cod campaign actually got me crying oh my fosshgdhd ☹
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genesischaos
I'm not going to get caught up with continuing this argument, but you're making the same mistake as earlier
We’ll see, please continue to post game relevant content. Readlists Impressions on players Help me catch scum
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SUNNY!!
okay off topic but just completed the new cod campaign actually got me crying oh my fosshgdhd ☹
I haven't even checked it... im too scared
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charlie
my react to eoth, me when eoth called me potential scum ReallyMad
So? You have not reacted to me the same way when i straight up called you scum? Why was he special? Lol
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charlie
I haven't even checked it... im too scared
i won't spoil it 🙏🏼 unless you want me too
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hi so sorry i haven't been talking much just got home from the dentist
10:41 p.m.
why's there Helium next to my name
10:41 p.m.
honestly idk how to play this because I have not played such a read-heavy mafia game before 😭
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Guillo
So? You have not reacted to me the same way when i straight up called you scum? Why was he special? Lol
oh bc me and eoth goooo wayyyy back, we have lore, he was also my mentor so like i was pretty upset when he scum read me bc he should be able to read me correctly. I think this is the second game in a row where he incorrectly read me and i was just SMILE like come on, plus I really wanted to play with him, like i invited him to this tour, and then he throws that read out when Im so obviously town, i was like wtf is this
10:42 p.m.
eoth may be a chef but he was not cooking with my read 😠
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Nito
honestly idk how to play this because I have not played such a read-heavy mafia game before 😭
Well you are mech lock town. So you can post a minimum of 30 posts every 24 hours and then chill
10:42 p.m.
Read and chill
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And comment
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Yeah reread
10:43 p.m.
actually
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Your life is easy
10:43 p.m.
5 of us have to show you that we are town. 2 of them are lying to you
10:43 p.m.
That is the gist of it
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Nito
why's there Helium next to my name
those are pronouns 😭
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ik i was making a joke lmao
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OH SORURH SSJDHDBD
10:48 p.m.
anyway uhhhah who do you think is the mafia 🙏🏼🙏🏼
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Guillo
So? You have not reacted to me the same way when i straight up called you scum? Why was he special? Lol
Oh probs to expand on this a little more, I value EOTH opinion the most out of any mafia player so when u called me scum i was like oh okay, like i dont expect u read me right 100% like i do with him 😭
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I need to leave, my eyes are about to explode 🤢😭🤮🤧
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I hope that helps explain a little bit more
10:50 p.m.
PLS TAKE MEDICINE U BEEN SICK FOR SO LONG
10:50 p.m.
take like night quill
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I am but it is not helping much 😦
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have u been drinking water and eating correctly
10:51 p.m.
try warm foods
10:51 p.m.
also sleep
10:51 p.m.
is HUGE
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for getting better
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Im not hungry since 2 days ago
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You def need to eat, even if u dont want too
10:52 p.m.
If u get any worse, check yourself in with ur doc
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Yah, ty
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Bye
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np bye 🫡
10:52 p.m.
hope u feel better
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Has ziel posted yet?
1:45 a.m.
@Ziel :D OHMY
1:45 a.m.
OHMY
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guys please i need to cherish my last moments
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girlie u got like 48 hours
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that's NOT ENOUGH
3:04 a.m.
This setup seems really townsided tbh
3:05 a.m.
I could see a genesis/ziel world
3:06 a.m.
Guillo and calla towny
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So
3:06 a.m.
That seems like it's just the solve lol
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lilypetal
I found ziel and sunny both kinda towny
at this rate, we shouldn't call you lilypetal, we should call you lilybackpedal
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For saying someone is towny and then when flips happen and masons out going ah yeah they're a wolf
3:12 a.m.
?
3:12 a.m.
Good joke though
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I have an account on a game called Lilypedal
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You should use that one
3:12 a.m.
More accurate
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Alright let's play mafia. Why does me now wolfreading ziel deserve attention from you?
3:13 a.m.
Like, you saw I wolfread you two and went to pull up a post not about you. Why?
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It's very interesting how you invent two new people to sus
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What's your experience with mafia
3:13 a.m.
No offense I'm just curious
3:13 a.m.
For if I need to explain mech to you
3:14 a.m.
Or like how flips work
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lol
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I'm not going to be condescended to
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Alright so basically it mafia there's this thing called Alignments, and we get randed as Town or Wolf and in bad games we have third parties
3:14 a.m.
And we have seen two villager flips
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And the masons, confirmed town, have outed
3:15 a.m.
I know I'm town, so that leaves (4) players left
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Meaning finding wolves is actually kinda easy
3:15 a.m.
My reads were p wrong day 1, as I wolf read a VT and a Mason. I townread ziel for having similar thoughts to me
3:18 a.m.
With flips and PRs in mind Ziel comes off much more like a wolf, especially with the nge NK. When you assume the pocket their playing into of wolfreading eoth and the day 1 elim, you can see that realistically they wanted to continue pushing eoth today. That leads me to believe that the wolves, or at least ziel were under the impression eoth was not a Mason and nge was. That's the logical explanation for the play we've seen
3:18 a.m.
So I must ask again, why are you bringing that post up and saying I'm "backpedaling"
3:18 a.m.
@genesischaos
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how could the mafia wolfread EOTH?
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genesischaos
how could the mafia wolfread EOTH?
Wat
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you said continue pushing EOTH
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By saying they did? Wdym lol
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who was pushing EOTH?
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Ziel :D
  • EasyOnTheHills (Wolf Lean)
    • Uhh... I don't believe EOTH's reads are accurate... I don't think their reads count as wolfy,,,
    • Their reads make sense. I don't think 100% accurate, but makes sense... I need to read onto it later on.
    • That reaction to their (Calla and Lily's) reactions was not towny. In my opinion, it's normal they'd be defensive if they have the right to defend themselves (both are my town reads as well)... 78% wolfy, 22% towny.
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3:25 a.m.
Ziel's play is actually pretty bad now that I'm looking at her iso
3:25 a.m.
I think I got confused and thought sunny and her were the same person at points lol
3:25 a.m.
But yeah her reads list is what I'm talking about
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So you're saying that her pushing EOTH who ended up being a mason is a bad play?
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I'm more of saying that her play looks like she thought nge was a mason prolly with another TR
3:27 a.m.
I'm basically just doing nka
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NKA to me means no known allergies
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Night kill analysis
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okay
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What are your wolfreads
3:28 a.m.
Being that you're pushing back at me I assume you don't wolfread her?
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See I kind of think that Guillo's insta reaction of reflexively accusing me is either a giga high IQ maf play but is more likely a townie (ToS logic)
3:28 a.m.
The insta vote back after an accusation always gets a townie voted off
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lilypetal
Being that you're pushing back at me I assume you don't wolfread her?
I maintain that Ziel hasn't contributed much at all, but the thing pushing me against voting her is that she initiated the vote on Abyss
3:29 a.m.
which maf don't usually do, they usually follow up an (erroneous) vote
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Are you saying wolves can't start wagons?
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But that's also not consistent logic, because Guillo pushed Callahan and those people also pushed you lily
3:31 a.m.
Well it is consistent if Guillo is town
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What's not consistent?
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Because I'm assuming the pushes are wrong. Guillo pushing Callahan is conceivably correct
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lilypetal
Are you saying wolves can't start wagons?
My point was that in my mind, bandwagons are usually started by bloodthirsty townies
3:32 a.m.
The pushes may be correct or incorrect, but they come from townies, and mafia only talk when they need to
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Yeah but that's just a fallacy
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Which fallacy
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Like that's not realistic there's nothing backing your point up. I've played enough forum mafia to know that wolves indeed will start wagons plenty
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Okay, so it's a disagreement not a fallacy
3:34 a.m.
A fallacy is an actual logical problem to what I've said
3:34 a.m.
I've described people's strategies
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There is a logical problem to what you've said. You're using a "just trust me bro" arguement
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It's not reality
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If you're town don't use those
3:35 a.m.
It's like fine sometimes but that specific one isn't
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Even if I was doing that it still wouldn't be a fallacy
3:35 a.m.
And you also asked me for my thought process
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I can also tell you that your thought process is wrong or bad
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A "just trust me bro" argument would involve no thought process at all
3:35 a.m.
It would be to blindly vote someone
3:36 a.m.
But its pointless to discuss further
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It is, because you don't understand what a fallacy is
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Iso ziel and give me proper reasons to why she's villagery
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genesischaos
It is, because you don't understand what a fallacy is
Google the word fallacy and get back to me. You're getting stuck in semantics that don't matter regardless
3:37 a.m.
I'm basically saying your point is bad and sucks
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I don't know whether she's intentionally hard to read or mafia
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That's all
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fallacy: a failure in reasoning which renders an argument invalid.
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genesischaos
I don't know whether she's intentionally hard to read or mafia
Nah. I need more
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lilypetal
I'm basically saying your point is bad and sucks
which isn't a fallacy
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lilypetal
Nah. I need more
well I was giving you more until you side tracked
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genesischaos
I maintain that Ziel hasn't contributed much at all, but the thing pushing me against voting her is that she initiated the vote on Abyss
So before the vote
3:40 a.m.
I'm trying to find the post
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Ziel :D
Woe
I think it was here
3:43 a.m.
So anemoia1011, Sunny, callahanc, Guillo had voted for her
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And?
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charlie
heres my current list Ngekop - Null Sunny - Town Lean Chaos - Town Lean Ziel - Null Lily - Null Ane - Scum lean Guillo - Town lean EOTH - Scum lean
this is interesting though
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Ziel :D
Not me , Nge, and Sunny, please 😭
but this is a strange list
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genesischaos
See I kind of think that Guillo's insta reaction of reflexively accusing me is either a giga high IQ maf play but is more likely a townie (ToS logic)
So you tr guillo and ziel? Meaning I'm a wolf and calla is a wolf?
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No at the moment I'm trying to work out, rereading these messages, how easily they were convinced by Ziel to vote for someone else
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Alright once you get around to bussing lmk
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nge pushed Guillo, and Ziel voted with nge despite disagreeing that he was maf. Calla pushed back at the Guillo vote. Guillo called Ziel sus for following nge, and then Calla reiterated that she was voting ane. Then Ziel changed her mind about Guillo being maf (I can't understand the reason). When nge finally joined, he noticed Guillo pushing him. Ziel leaves. Nge uses some reasoning to say that if ane is evil, then sunny or EoTH is with ane, who then doesnt properly defend himself and gets voted off. Ane reflexively voted Ziel (which if I was on should
3:54 a.m.
(didnt mean to send yet)
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've clued me in to the fact that it was a bad vote)
3:57 a.m.
But Abyss didnt have any pushes because he needed more messages from me and EOTH. Guillo said it was a compromise to vote for ane, with Nge disagreeing saying it was either ane or ziel. They eventually agree to vote ane, but it didn't seem he fully agreed, especially not with sunny. And so the vote was made
3:58 a.m.
Ziel had already changed her mind to vote for ane BEFORE nge joined, but hadn't cast the vote yet
4:00 a.m.
So overall, the push on Guillo was delayed because ane wasn't active enough, and it seems like inactive people get voted off.
4:01 a.m.
Guillo saying it was a compromise to vote for ane is a bit strange, because he started by straight up pushing nge, who was the main person pushing ane (after Ziel initiated)
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I'll leave these thoughts here until more people engage
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I had to finish my thoughts, it was distracting me when I studied: I don’t think Guillo+Ziel are maf together, it’s devastating getting a mafia voted off n1. It wouldn’t make sense for Ziel to change her mind about Guillo getting voted off, only for Guillo to vote for his mafia buddy Ziel (when the tide turned). So I’m suggesting either Guillo or Ziel is mafia or they’re both town. If they’re both town, by elimination that makes Callahan and lily mafia. So the pairs I have are Calla/lily (nge didn’t have) Guillo/Calla (nge didn’t have) Guillo/lily (nge didn’t have) Ziel/calla (nge didn’t have) Ziel/lily (nge didn’t have) Which inclines me to disregard nge’s conclusions, or maybe I’m overthinking and the collaboration between Guillo and Ziel was not good and the outcome was serendipitous.
5:17 a.m.
I am still on my way home
5:17 a.m.
I'll comment on these later
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genesischaos
I had to finish my thoughts, it was distracting me when I studied: I don’t think Guillo+Ziel are maf together, it’s devastating getting a mafia voted off n1. It wouldn’t make sense for Ziel to change her mind about Guillo getting voted off, only for Guillo to vote for his mafia buddy Ziel (when the tide turned). So I’m suggesting either Guillo or Ziel is mafia or they’re both town. If they’re both town, by elimination that makes Callahan and lily mafia. So the pairs I have are Calla/lily (nge didn’t have) Guillo/Calla (nge didn’t have) Guillo/lily (nge didn’t have) Ziel/calla (nge didn’t have) Ziel/lily (nge didn’t have) Which inclines me to disregard nge’s conclusions, or maybe I’m overthinking and the collaboration between Guillo and Ziel was not good and the outcome was serendipitous.
correction* ngekop did have calla/ziel
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not another replacement
8:50 a.m.
what
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-05 8:57 a.m.
wau
8:58 a.m.
ok time to read
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-05 9:08 a.m.
Ok I read now to process becayse there is a lot of information
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yeah if I can help clarify anything before im about to go to sleep lmk
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-05 9:28 a.m.
oki
9:28 a.m.
I may reread again
9:29 a.m.
as I started reading from EOD Day 1
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but I wanna peek at gamestart
9:33 a.m.
what the hell was with Nge lol
9:34 a.m.
There's so much passive aggressiveness
9:34 a.m.
>still scrolling to top
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan)
There's so much passive aggressiveness
Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-05 9:35 a.m.
>>and then they flipped town
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-05 9:56 a.m.
finally the top
9:56 a.m.
Now to skim even though people were wheening about it yesterday
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-05 10:17 a.m.
So, to start with just catching up: Why was my slot called an open wolf? From reviewing it looks like it was too obvious if they were open wolfing, yeah okay Open Wolfs are supposed to stand out but Guillo just seemed to be trying too hard to convince people that they're an openwolf. People were suspecting this for a while too, at that. Discussion about New Players which is no longer relevant, so skipping. Lamist discussion was weird, but probably would lead to a nothing burger anyways, So far Lily is throwing mild shade on Guillo, saying Guillo is X, then backing out with "I dont know their meta well enough". A lot of fluff then. the 'townclearing' post from Sunny hasnt aged well either, though with that said, it shouldnt have been a clear in the first place. >Everyone acting like Guillo's had no intention or ground, they were reaction tests they aren't meant to hold ground, they're meant to see who is thinking a similar way, which can sometimes indicate alignments. And with that said, right now Callahan, Lily and Sunny seem to be aligned, gut read of course, will have to keep reading. ig I'll post this much for now
10:18 a.m.
I'm seeing shade, but not as much as there normally is
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surprisingly
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now to post reference links so far
10:20 a.m.
ok time to keep catching up
10:26 a.m.
More fluff
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-05 10:37 a.m.
Ngekop also throwing shade now on Guillo, but nothing comes of it, and well, they flipped town. I can see why people had suspicions of them now, though I'm not sure what scum was thinking killing them. They would have been a better lynch than a straight up kill. I wanna say Guillos slot and Callahan had a small mindmeld regarding Ngekop's open-wolfing. It makes me believe the two slots are aligned. Abyss, seems to be new as well as Sunny, not sure why people let Ngekop lead that push considering they were accused of open-wolfing all day. eoth finally arrives, says hello, asks for catch up, doesnt follow up. I want to peek at the Abyss votes now out of curiousity
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-05 10:42 a.m.
the only reason I can see why Ane was voted was because of their Self Awareness, which idt anyone pointed out (yet)
10:44 a.m.
Callahan is a town lean I think, but with that said, that means Lily and Sunny would be too, given that they still seem to be aligned with each other, for now while reading
10:45 a.m.
Callahan is also thinking about the Towns Best Interest, hence why they questioned the reaction tests.
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-05 10:53 a.m.
I'm not sure why Nge and Ane were being lumped together. Nge was questioning Ane and kept pushing harder and harder. I don't think as scum they would dont such a thing as it would just draw more attention, which is something you want to avoid as scum
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-05 11:06 a.m.
eoth's reads post are a nothing burger: Guillo's push idt was bold at all, Ngekop already had the foundation laid for an Ane push. Ngekop would not give me good vibes, they open-wolfed, failed, then went after a new player. Ane is definitely a new town, which explains the self awareness. Sunny is a null at this point, their content lacks in comparison to Callahans even if they are new. Lily is a null, slight town lean, they have better content than Sunny but aren't seeing the picture as to why Ane was Self Aware. Callahan is a town lean for now, they have the town's best interest in mind, as previously mentioned and they seem genuine in most of the discussions so far, not sure why eoth had them as scum. Ziel and Genesis have done slim all content at this point, so not much to read on them yet.
11:10 a.m.
alright I think I have seen enough of day 1
11:10 a.m.
It's becoming a broken record now
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party rockers in the house tonight
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someone talk so i don't get frustrated reading ne50 😔
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genesischaos
Because I'm assuming the pushes are wrong. Guillo pushing Callahan is conceivably correct
? what
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genesischaos
nge pushed Guillo, and Ziel voted with nge despite disagreeing that he was maf. Calla pushed back at the Guillo vote. Guillo called Ziel sus for following nge, and then Calla reiterated that she was voting ane. Then Ziel changed her mind about Guillo being maf (I can't understand the reason). When nge finally joined, he noticed Guillo pushing him. Ziel leaves. Nge uses some reasoning to say that if ane is evil, then sunny or EoTH is with ane, who then doesnt properly defend himself and gets voted off. Ane reflexively voted Ziel (which if I was on should
She changed her mind because she didn't agree with wanting to vote Guillo, which now I'm kind of thinking is because she was gaining votes on her end for voting Gullio. Example : Gullio + me voted her.
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I had to finish my thoughts, it was distracting me when I studied: I don’t think Guillo+Ziel are maf together, it’s devastating getting a mafia voted off n1. It wouldn’t make sense for Ziel to change her mind about Guillo getting voted off, only for Guillo to vote for his mafia buddy Ziel (when the tide turned). So I’m suggesting either Guillo or Ziel is mafia or they’re both town. If they’re both town, by elimination that makes Callahan and lily mafia. So the pairs I have are Calla/lily (nge didn’t have) Guillo/Calla (nge didn’t have) Guillo/lily (nge didn’t have) Ziel/calla (nge didn’t have) Ziel/lily (nge didn’t have) Which inclines me to disregard nge’s conclusions, or maybe I’m overthinking and the collaboration between Guillo and Ziel was not good and the outcome was serendipitous.
The reason why Nge didn't have me and lily together as mafia, which is correct, is because no two wolves attack a basically inactive slot for bad reads on them. Do you know how much attention that puts on wolves? Which we got a WHOLE lotta attention from doing that. Why would we do that, when I pretty sure we are both, experienced mafia players? 😭 You think we would both do a noobie mistake like that LOL, kind of offended lowkey. Nge also didn't have a lot of these pairs because they didn't make sense LOL. And they dont? Nge slotted me with Ziel only because I had no real pairs. So he was left putting me with you and ziel because you guys gave nothing! SMILE
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan)
So, to start with just catching up: Why was my slot called an open wolf? From reviewing it looks like it was too obvious if they were open wolfing, yeah okay Open Wolfs are supposed to stand out but Guillo just seemed to be trying too hard to convince people that they're an openwolf. People were suspecting this for a while too, at that. Discussion about New Players which is no longer relevant, so skipping. Lamist discussion was weird, but probably would lead to a nothing burger anyways, So far Lily is throwing mild shade on Guillo, saying Guillo is X, then backing out with "I dont know their meta well enough". A lot of fluff then. the 'townclearing' post from Sunny hasnt aged well either, though with that said, it shouldnt have been a clear in the first place. >Everyone acting like Guillo's had no intention or ground, they were reaction tests they aren't meant to hold ground, they're meant to see who is thinking a similar way, which can sometimes indicate alignments. And with that said, right now Callahan, Lily and Sunny seem to be aligned, gut read of course, will have to keep reading. ig I'll post this much for now
Your slot was seen as a potential open wolf because of Lily's meta on Guillo. My meta on Gullio is he deeps wolf though, which I did speak about. What do you mean why you talk about how it shouldn't have been clear in the first place when regarding Sunny's townclearing post.
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan)
Ngekop also throwing shade now on Guillo, but nothing comes of it, and well, they flipped town. I can see why people had suspicions of them now, though I'm not sure what scum was thinking killing them. They would have been a better lynch than a straight up kill. I wanna say Guillos slot and Callahan had a small mindmeld regarding Ngekop's open-wolfing. It makes me believe the two slots are aligned. Abyss, seems to be new as well as Sunny, not sure why people let Ngekop lead that push considering they were accused of open-wolfing all day. eoth finally arrives, says hello, asks for catch up, doesnt follow up. I want to peek at the Abyss votes now out of curiousity
Also could you expand on Nge's open wolfing 😭 I didn't think he was open wolfing at all.
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan)
eoth's reads post are a nothing burger: Guillo's push idt was bold at all, Ngekop already had the foundation laid for an Ane push. Ngekop would not give me good vibes, they open-wolfed, failed, then went after a new player. Ane is definitely a new town, which explains the self awareness. Sunny is a null at this point, their content lacks in comparison to Callahans even if they are new. Lily is a null, slight town lean, they have better content than Sunny but aren't seeing the picture as to why Ane was Self Aware. Callahan is a town lean for now, they have the town's best interest in mind, as previously mentioned and they seem genuine in most of the discussions so far, not sure why eoth had them as scum. Ziel and Genesis have done slim all content at this point, so not much to read on them yet.
EOTH's slot which is now Nito, and Sunny's are masons. Also, pretty sure EOTH had me as their scum because he didn't read everything, which he did admit he skimmed. Also do you mean Self aware by the fact Ane knew he was scummy?
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SUNNY!!
someone talk so i don't get frustrated reading ne50 😔
Can't talk about ongoing games sunny 😭
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I KNOW I KNOW I FORGOT
1:04 p.m.
ahaha hero_charming
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Sunny who is in your POE again
1:04 p.m.
+ reasons
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charlie
? what
+ how was it correct?
1:06 p.m.
@genesischaos
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genesischaos
I had to finish my thoughts, it was distracting me when I studied: I don’t think Guillo+Ziel are maf together, it’s devastating getting a mafia voted off n1. It wouldn’t make sense for Ziel to change her mind about Guillo getting voted off, only for Guillo to vote for his mafia buddy Ziel (when the tide turned). So I’m suggesting either Guillo or Ziel is mafia or they’re both town. If they’re both town, by elimination that makes Callahan and lily mafia. So the pairs I have are Calla/lily (nge didn’t have) Guillo/Calla (nge didn’t have) Guillo/lily (nge didn’t have) Ziel/calla (nge didn’t have) Ziel/lily (nge didn’t have) Which inclines me to disregard nge’s conclusions, or maybe I’m overthinking and the collaboration between Guillo and Ziel was not good and the outcome was serendipitous.
Also why is Ziel town in your eyes?
1:09 p.m.
I know Chaos is a ToS player, and I played it a few times myself, but I'm not sure if there is a busing in ToS.....
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Sunny who is in your POE again
ahh probably lily, ziel, and gen ziel's readlist was a mess imo, she seemed to be pocketing nge and a lot of her messages are fluff/filler gen's reads seem really surface-level to me, and they're also really fast to discredit people and nitpick things, using TOS knowledge for their reasoning even though I've already learned that it doesn't really help here to use that stuff, since it's more social here if these two aren't mafia, lily's just here since there really isn't anyone else that stands out to me, and she seems to get really defensive,, maybe that was just because she was arguing with gen unless the mafia end up being guillo/duncan and calla, not sure who else atp
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SUNNY!!
ahh probably lily, ziel, and gen ziel's readlist was a mess imo, she seemed to be pocketing nge and a lot of her messages are fluff/filler gen's reads seem really surface-level to me, and they're also really fast to discredit people and nitpick things, using TOS knowledge for their reasoning even though I've already learned that it doesn't really help here to use that stuff, since it's more social here if these two aren't mafia, lily's just here since there really isn't anyone else that stands out to me, and she seems to get really defensive,, maybe that was just because she was arguing with gen unless the mafia end up being guillo/duncan and calla, not sure who else atp
Okay we have the same POE, my poe is Ziel -> Gen -> Lily
1:19 p.m.
I don't think ToS logic fits really well here either, but I can only assume this is his first chat mafia game, so I can see why he's only using that because that's the only knowledge he does know the work with.
1:21 p.m.
I actually don't think Lily was defensive that argument just confused and being like wtf is this? Because thats how I was feeling when reading Gen's stuff, and she seemed to be saying similar things to what I would say to it if I was in talking to him.
1:22 p.m.
Also does Nito also have a the same POE as you? Or is it different?
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nito doesn't really talk to me, he isn't crazy active so im not sure 💔 i already talked to him about my POEs though, and he's newer so he'd probably just have the same yeah
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Make sure he rereads though, did you catch him up on what happened so far
1:24 p.m.
Like a general time line
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yea yea gave him a recap of d1, my poe's, and told him how to make a read list by using my old one hoping he makes something 😔
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Yeah, you need to work with him, because if I was mafia, I would be killing you first out of the masons, because your slot in active, and his is not.
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yeah i know im going to die over nito, sucks he's only active really late in the day so imausgdejdb
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The struggles of being active 😔
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so we're all in agreement
2:08 p.m.
right?
2:09 p.m.
why not hammer
2:09 p.m.
who tf is pearisa
2:09 p.m.
LOL
2:10 p.m.
i guess guillo sub?
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charlie
Your slot was seen as a potential open wolf because of Lily's meta on Guillo. My meta on Gullio is he deeps wolf though, which I did speak about. What do you mean why you talk about how it shouldn't have been clear in the first place when regarding Sunny's townclearing post.
tbf ive thought guillo is town for like
2:13 p.m.
ages
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so idk whatcha mean lol
2:14 p.m.
his play around mech was p good
2:14 p.m.
the nge kill feels unlikely from him
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Oh yeah 100%
2:14 p.m.
I was explaining my point of view for what he said
2:15 p.m.
i just wanted to make sure we were on the same page
2:15 p.m.
Honestly Idk why we are voting
2:15 p.m.
arent
2:16 p.m.
but ig like we should give ziel a chance to speak
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didnt she pop in
2:17 p.m.
seems to be in antispew
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Ziel :D
I'll comment on these later
I wanna see her comments to Gen
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charlie
Your slot was seen as a potential open wolf because of Lily's meta on Guillo. My meta on Gullio is he deeps wolf though, which I did speak about. What do you mean why you talk about how it shouldn't have been clear in the first place when regarding Sunny's townclearing post.
Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-05 2:54 p.m.
1st. to me it didnt even look like opem wolfing, much rather just reaction testing, somethijg that happens a lot early game on this server. Sunny's statement looked clumsy, they said that Nge seemed a bit scummy based off old games, but didnt cite anything more than a quote, unless others did a check to see if that quote was true, I wouldnt have just jumped to TRing that.
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Also could you expand on Nge's open wolfing 😭 I didn't think he was open wolfing at all.
Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-05 2:55 p.m.
Ehh, I dont remember why exactly, I remember someone mentioned it, then I reread through and it felt like open wolfing.
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charlie
EOTH's slot which is now Nito, and Sunny's are masons. Also, pretty sure EOTH had me as their scum because he didn't read everything, which he did admit he skimmed. Also do you mean Self aware by the fact Ane knew he was scummy?
Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-05 2:56 p.m.
Yes Ane was acting like they knew they were scummy, being Self Aware.
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sooo are we planning to lynch ziel? or who do you guys want to be the main target here
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i can feel the knock of death at my door please
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SUNNY!!
sooo are we planning to lynch ziel? or who do you guys want to be the main target here
Yeah
3:54 p.m.
It's really just up to whenever the masons want to
3:54 p.m.
I believe everyone else is in agreement
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-05 4:25 p.m.
Okay so another 25 hours yet, good
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ahh probably lily, ziel, and gen ziel's readlist was a mess imo, she seemed to be pocketing nge and a lot of her messages are fluff/filler gen's reads seem really surface-level to me, and they're also really fast to discredit people and nitpick things, using TOS knowledge for their reasoning even though I've already learned that it doesn't really help here to use that stuff, since it's more social here if these two aren't mafia, lily's just here since there really isn't anyone else that stands out to me, and she seems to get really defensive,, maybe that was just because she was arguing with gen unless the mafia end up being guillo/duncan and calla, not sure who else atp
It feels kind of pointless to respond to some of this because people aren't even trying to understand what I said. "They're also really fast to discredit people" - whilst discrediting me by just saying that the reads are surface level, after I explained them in detail. You're also reframing me asking questions especially related to Guillo getting upset as nitpicking, which is dishonest because asking questions about something vague someone has said is not nitpicking. If you're referring to lily accusing me of making a fallacy, that is also not a nitpick, but it is not your fault for not knowing that. If I had actually said something fallacious, and you pointed out a logical problem in what I said, it would be silly to defend something provably wrong. But lily simply disagreed with me, which is reasonable in this game, meaning she was discrediting me because she personally didn't like my argument, not that it was objectively untrue. You're making the same mistake as lily as well, "even though I've already learned it doesn't really help here". Ignoring the narcissism, that everything you believe is true and conflicting ideas are wrong, you actually have to have a stronger case. I put forward a totally conceivable interpretation of what I witnessed as someone who is trying to work out who mafia is and who is on the same team.
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charlie
Also why is Ziel town in your eyes?
Can you please point to where I said Ziel was town in my eyes? I'd like to see this post please
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charlie
The reason why Nge didn't have me and lily together as mafia, which is correct, is because no two wolves attack a basically inactive slot for bad reads on them. Do you know how much attention that puts on wolves? Which we got a WHOLE lotta attention from doing that. Why would we do that, when I pretty sure we are both, experienced mafia players? 😭 You think we would both do a noobie mistake like that LOL, kind of offended lowkey. Nge also didn't have a lot of these pairs because they didn't make sense LOL. And they dont? Nge slotted me with Ziel only because I had no real pairs. So he was left putting me with you and ziel because you guys gave nothing! SMILE
Sure, but you didn't really have to attack anyone because once people started the conversation about ane, he couldn't really defend himself (I think he had time constraints). It seemed to me like finding a safe vote couldnt move past ane as he wasn't talking. But I'm nor sure why you only mentioned that one pair, there's 4 others there.
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narcissism? why did you bring that up
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genesischaos
Can you please point to where I said Ziel was town in my eyes? I'd like to see this post please
I just realized I miss read what you said, ignore what I said
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Because your point in that post comes across that way. But that's separate to my point, a narcissistic argument is not inherently wrong
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genesischaos
Sure, but you didn't really have to attack anyone because once people started the conversation about ane, he couldn't really defend himself (I think he had time constraints). It seemed to me like finding a safe vote couldnt move past ane as he wasn't talking. But I'm nor sure why you only mentioned that one pair, there's 4 others there.
I wasn’t finding a safe vote, and I went back and forth on Ane for quite a bit in the beginning, and he didn’t improve. I said these pairs didn’t make sense, so I referred to them all.
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charlie
I wasn’t finding a safe vote, and I went back and forth on Ane for quite a bit in the beginning, and he didn’t improve. I said these pairs didn’t make sense, so I referred to them all.
Yes, you weren't leading the discussion, Nge was (after he came, which is when it looked like the tide turned).
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genesischaos
Because your point in that post comes across that way. But that's separate to my point, a narcissistic argument is not inherently wrong
aside from it being really fucking unnecessary to say that no it doesn't? it's what i believed you were doing at the time. i never once stated that everything i believe is true. nothing about that is "narcissistic" can you not? maybe find a more proper word
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charlie
I wasn’t finding a safe vote, and I went back and forth on Ane for quite a bit in the beginning, and he didn’t improve. I said these pairs didn’t make sense, so I referred to them all.
I mean you said that they other ones don't make sense "cos they don't" which isn't much for me to work with Why
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genesischaos
Yes, you weren't leading the discussion, Nge was (after he came, which is when it looked like the tide turned).
Are you talking about Nge or me, I’m like really confused 😭
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genesischaos
I mean you said that they other ones don't make sense "cos they don't" which isn't much for me to work with Why
I mean can you make sense of your pairings?
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charlie
Are you talking about Nge or me, I’m like really confused 😭
You said that I said you were finding a safe vote. I said that you weren't even really leading the discussion, Nge was
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genesischaos
You said that I said you were finding a safe vote. I said that you weren't even really leading the discussion, Nge was
The discussion of voting Ane out?
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charlie
I mean can you make sense of your pairings?
I mean I explained the pairs in my post, if you didn't follow part of it, which part
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I was the main one tunneling him?
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genesischaos
I had to finish my thoughts, it was distracting me when I studied: I don’t think Guillo+Ziel are maf together, it’s devastating getting a mafia voted off n1. It wouldn’t make sense for Ziel to change her mind about Guillo getting voted off, only for Guillo to vote for his mafia buddy Ziel (when the tide turned). So I’m suggesting either Guillo or Ziel is mafia or they’re both town. If they’re both town, by elimination that makes Callahan and lily mafia. So the pairs I have are Calla/lily (nge didn’t have) Guillo/Calla (nge didn’t have) Guillo/lily (nge didn’t have) Ziel/calla (nge didn’t have) Ziel/lily (nge didn’t have) Which inclines me to disregard nge’s conclusions, or maybe I’m overthinking and the collaboration between Guillo and Ziel was not good and the outcome was serendipitous.
Like this is by elimination right? I’m talking about how these are pairs in your eyes? What interactions made us pairs?
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charlie
I was the main one tunneling him?
You pushed back at the Guillo vote, but it seemed moreso that you were leaning to vote him, but the momentum didn't change enough until more people joined
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Why would I vote Guillo?
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I said you pushed back at it
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He was my town lean
6:07 p.m.
Oh okay so what’s the problem
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charlie
Like this is by elimination right? I’m talking about how these are pairs in your eyes? What interactions made us pairs?
I'm isolating the instance of what happened with the vote to make pairs, because it's a much more objective measure than conjecture pushed in D1
6:09 p.m.
I'm using some observable voting and discussion patterns to pair people together, and favouring this line of reasoning.
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Can you explain more for each pair then the overall idea of them?
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It's just process of elimination considering that I believed that Guillo and Ziel could not be on the same team
6:09 p.m.
And knowing we have 2 masons
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Yeah they aren’t
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SUNNY!!
aside from it being really fucking unnecessary to say that no it doesn't? it's what i believed you were doing at the time. i never once stated that everything i believe is true. nothing about that is "narcissistic" can you not? maybe find a more proper word
also, where did you explain these reads in detail?
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But as I said in the post, it's entirely possible my interpretation of that is wrong, which is why I asked for feedback on that line of reasoning
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genesischaos
I had to finish my thoughts, it was distracting me when I studied: I don’t think Guillo+Ziel are maf together, it’s devastating getting a mafia voted off n1. It wouldn’t make sense for Ziel to change her mind about Guillo getting voted off, only for Guillo to vote for his mafia buddy Ziel (when the tide turned). So I’m suggesting either Guillo or Ziel is mafia or they’re both town. If they’re both town, by elimination that makes Callahan and lily mafia. So the pairs I have are Calla/lily (nge didn’t have) Guillo/Calla (nge didn’t have) Guillo/lily (nge didn’t have) Ziel/calla (nge didn’t have) Ziel/lily (nge didn’t have) Which inclines me to disregard nge’s conclusions, or maybe I’m overthinking and the collaboration between Guillo and Ziel was not good and the outcome was serendipitous.
The calla/Lily pair didn’t make sense to me like I explained. Guillo/Calla pair doesn’t make sense since we were def beefing a lot throughout the game. He was the main one pushing me for my overreaction. Ziel/Calla pair doesn’t make sense to me since I was willing to vote them out over Gullio. And I want to vote them out now 😭
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SUNNY!!
aside from it being really fucking unnecessary to say that no it doesn't? it's what i believed you were doing at the time. i never once stated that everything i believe is true. nothing about that is "narcissistic" can you not? maybe find a more proper word
Well I'll use the words I want to use, and you can use the words you want to use. It's entirely fair calling it narcissistic, because you dismissed my lines of logic simply because they didn't align with your personal view on the matter.
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You need to remember main interactions throughout the game when deciding pairs.
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well, no you won't if i don't want you calling me that you're not going to fucking call me that
6:13 p.m.
that simple
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charlie
The calla/Lily pair didn’t make sense to me like I explained. Guillo/Calla pair doesn’t make sense since we were def beefing a lot throughout the game. He was the main one pushing me for my overreaction. Ziel/Calla pair doesn’t make sense to me since I was willing to vote them out over Gullio. And I want to vote them out now 😭
Sure, and if you're using evidence from earlier in the game that's fine. I give preference to making conclusions from things that have actually happened. That explains my pairings
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Dude don’t call Sunny a narcissist 😭
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genesischaos
Sure, and if you're using evidence from earlier in the game that's fine. I give preference to making conclusions from things that have actually happened. That explains my pairings
My conclusionz actually happen tho?
6:14 p.m.
Like?
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charlie
My conclusionz actually happen tho?
I don't put as much weight on "beefing through the game", I look at the actual votes and how people were swayed. But can you explain the Ziel/Calla pair a bit, because what made you change from Guillo to Ziel?
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genesischaos
I don't put as much weight on "beefing through the game", I look at the actual votes and how people were swayed. But can you explain the Ziel/Calla pair a bit, because what made you change from Guillo to Ziel?
What do you mean change from Guillo to Ziel? I went from Ane to Ziel then back to Ane?
6:16 p.m.
I only voted Ziel so Gullio didn’t get voted out, since he was my town lean.
6:17 p.m.
Then I went back to my scum lean when the votes on Guillo went away
6:17 p.m.
My scum lean being Ane?
6:17 p.m.
What’s the problem with what I did?
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charlie
What do you mean change from Guillo to Ziel? I went from Ane to Ziel then back to Ane?
That's right, I forgot you changed votes specifically for numbers
6:18 p.m.
So what’s the issue
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charlie
What’s the problem with what I did?
I'm not saying your logic is objectively wrong, because it's not. From my perspective, this is what I can see happened. But I'm still a bit confused at parts of what you said. "Guillo/Calla pair doesn't make sense" - you're saying you were overall siding with Guillo, and despite the beef he was actually pushing Nge more than you, and prepared to vote him off (basically right up until he joined)
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Well I'll use the words I want to use, and you can use the words you want to use. It's entirely fair calling it narcissistic, because you dismissed my lines of logic simply because they didn't align with your personal view on the matter.
Welcome to mafia, but you shouldn’t call them a narcissist, that was really rude😭 You should honestly apologize
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Likewise, you being paired with Lily still makes sense to me because you didn't really initiate any push
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A push for what?
6:21 p.m.
Why am I suppose to push a null read
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charlie
Welcome to mafia, but you shouldn’t call them a narcissist, that was really rude😭 You should honestly apologize
The argument was entirely narcissistic by the definition of the word, if he wants to be upset about that he can. I'm not apologising for observing something obvious
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Why am I suppose to push a null read
That's my point, you didn't really push him
6:22 p.m.
You said it doesn't make sense for two experienced mafias to push someone who is essentially AFK
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genesischaos
I'm not saying your logic is objectively wrong, because it's not. From my perspective, this is what I can see happened. But I'm still a bit confused at parts of what you said. "Guillo/Calla pair doesn't make sense" - you're saying you were overall siding with Guillo, and despite the beef he was actually pushing Nge more than you, and prepared to vote him off (basically right up until he joined)
No he went wack on me for awhile, like voting me several times, why as mafia pair would he be like shit I gotta vote my partner a lot and aggressively fight with them?
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That's my point, you didn't really push him
OH UR TALKING ABOUT EOTH
6:23 p.m.
I thought u were talking about Lily
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6:24 p.m.
Wasn't i talking about ane
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I pushed him a lot for his shitty reads, A LOT. Especially when he posted them? I even voted him, and constantly brought it up how his reads were shitty, but then I spoke to Guillo and was kind of figuring it out, and I realized he was probs town.
6:24 p.m.
Wait
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charlie
No he went wack on me for awhile, like voting me several times, why as mafia pair would he be like shit I gotta vote my partner a lot and aggressively fight with them?
I think he voted for you once before changing to lily and then nge
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Who r we talking about
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charlie
Who r we talking about
I was saying you didn't really push ane
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LOL???
6:25 p.m.
No way u just said that
6:25 p.m.
When I was swinging for his vote 😭
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What did you think I was saying earlier about Nge leading the discussion?
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genesischaos
I think he voted for you once before changing to lily and then nge
Here’s was my vote thingy I put down I haven’t updated in a fat min bc I forgot too. Vote Count Follower : Ngekop -Voted Gullio because RVS. -Voted Ane because he froze. Sunny -Voted Lily, scum read them for their reaction? Chaos Ziel Lily -Voted Ane because he's ungeuine -Voted EOTH, bad reads Ane -Voted Lily for no reason? Guillo -Voted me because of LAMST. -Voted Nge thinks he's putting on a show. -Voted me bc he thinks I'm confirmed scum? EOTH
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genesischaos
What did you think I was saying earlier about Nge leading the discussion?
Dude idk wtf we are talking about, but I know DAMN well I was pushing for him
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genesischaos
The argument was entirely narcissistic by the definition of the word, if he wants to be upset about that he can. I'm not apologising for observing something obvious
Do you even know what that word means? I doubt you do, since NOTHING about my statement is supposedly narcissistic.
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charlie
Dude idk wtf we are talking about, but I know DAMN well I was pushing for him
Okay, I read it as you were sort of moving with the momentum of the discussion, lead by Nge. not that you were hard pushing him specifically
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I said what I believed. I never once said everyone agreed with me, or that it was fact. screw off
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But if that's how you're saying it happened, that's fine
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Okay, I read it as you were sort of moving with the momentum of the discussion, lead by Nge. not that you were hard pushing him specifically
No, I was literally arguing with Nge about it for awhile, and trying to get ppl to vote him
6:29 p.m.
Which I think everybody can agree lol?
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Maybe not u
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Which is fine
6:30 p.m.
Alos really confused how u are saying Nge lead the Ane wagon, when he was totally agasint it
6:31 p.m.
Maybe in the beginning, but your talking about EOD
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I know I said this for a reason - Calla your last message was at 6:16 which was 2 hours before end of discussion
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charlie
No, I was literally arguing with Nge about it for awhile, and trying to get ppl to vote him
But scrolling through the chat it does seem much more like a back and forth, no hard pushes which I was insinuating
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Whats the issue
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But also Nge was kind of being distracted by Guillo actually hard pushing hiim
6:33 p.m.
So he had to deal with both issues without getting hard accused further
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But scrolling through the chat it does seem much more like a back and forth, no hard pushes which I was insinuating
Me arguing my reasons on why he is scum is pushing because everybody is looking at me arguing my reasons, I'm pushing/arguing on the fact he is scum?
6:34 p.m.
I'm literally so confused about what your main goal is with saying this.
6:35 p.m.
What are you trying to get across right now?
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Your point was that you couldn't be paired with Guillo based on your vote on Ane, and I was disagreeing with that
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charlie
The calla/Lily pair didn’t make sense to me like I explained. Guillo/Calla pair doesn’t make sense since we were def beefing a lot throughout the game. He was the main one pushing me for my overreaction. Ziel/Calla pair doesn’t make sense to me since I was willing to vote them out over Gullio. And I want to vote them out now 😭
This is what I said?
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charlie
What do you mean change from Guillo to Ziel? I went from Ane to Ziel then back to Ane?
here
6:36 p.m.
and your msgs after
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I never said I couldn't be paired with him because of that?
6:37 p.m.
I explained how I was voting
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Your argument against the Guillo/Calla pair was the beef, but you're also saying that you town leaned him and voted with him
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Yeah because we had beef before, and I still town lean him throughout him saying I was scum?
6:38 p.m.
And then he thought i was town
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And that makes sense to you because you're putting a larger emphasis on chats, which is a different approach to mine
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I don't understand what you are coming at right now?
6:38 p.m.
Oh okay
6:39 p.m.
Because interactions are key components for making pairs?
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Like I said, I'm giving my perspective from how it looks to me and how I consider the things that happened this game
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You can't ignore like the whole chat?
6:39 p.m.
SMILE
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Well I was giving priority to certain parts of the chat
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Oh okay
6:39 p.m.
So this whole convo, is just nothing
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No, this convo is me explaining my conclusions
6:40 p.m.
And understanding yours
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Do you still agree with your points?
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Generally yes, I'm less sure about one of the pairs but I do (kind of) want to see lily's input and Ziel's. It's disappointing that sunny ignored the rest of my response, about him doing the thing he accused me of
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Okay got you, but I still think its how do I put this lightly eh, for you to ignore early interactions and only base things at EOD, your like ignoring like 46 hours worth of info in my opinion, but if that how you are seeing things, then sure go at it.
6:43 p.m.
I can't stop you from doing that
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Okay got you, but I still think its how do I put this lightly eh, for you to ignore early interactions and only base things at EOD, your like ignoring like 46 hours worth of info in my opinion, but if that how you are seeing things, then sure go at it.
I had an original schizo post that I thought addressed the earlier parts of the conversation
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Generally yes, I'm less sure about one of the pairs but I do (kind of) want to see lily's input and Ziel's. It's disappointing that sunny ignored the rest of my response, about him doing the thing he accused me of
im doing something else i also wanted to make it clear that i don't appreciate being called a narcissist, so fuck off with that
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I'm favouring new information about the vote
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genesischaos
I had an original schizo post that I thought addressed the earlier parts of the conversation
I know but your whole argument right now is EOD stuff
6:44 p.m.
Is this your first chat mafia game
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Which I think is totally fair. Because conceivably otherwise I wouldn't be able to come to any conclusions at all, especially as mafia can distance themselves early and most early chat isn't based on much
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I mean the meat of a lot of things happens during the middle of the day, yes I can see your point on distancing themselves early but, chat mafia that doesn't really happen 😭 Because it becomes very obvious when two people aren't speaking to each other that much in 48 hours.
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charlie
We could be scum distancing ourselves since he actually never even voted me
didn't you say it here
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genesischaos
didn't you say it here
My joke?
6:47 p.m.
SMILE
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Is that a joke? my autism can't tell
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Oh lol
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dude I was begging eoth to speak to me
6:47 p.m.
But he didn't want too
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:SMILE:
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NO
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Why
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But also EOTH's slot is mason
6:50 p.m.
But, I think you should really apologize to Sunny
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I'm not gonna do that, because that would imply that I've done something wrong
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You did?
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I've been over this, not rehashing it. I'm moving on and not perseverating on it
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charlie
But, I think you should really apologize to Sunny
it's alright dw can't force people to recognize mistakes if they don't want to 😔
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I think that was really rude of you, and name calling is just SMILE Mafia is toxic at it's core, but let's not be rude to people.
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it's alright dw can't force people to recognize mistakes if they don't want to 😔
UIHWFIUHEFIUHEF
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charlie
I think that was really rude of you, and name calling is just SMILE Mafia is toxic at it's core, but let's not be rude to people.
It is not name calling to call an argument narcissistic!
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genesischaos
It is not name calling to call an argument narcissistic!
In what ways was it narcissistic?
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In what ways was it narcissistic?
I'm not rehashing it, I explained it earlier
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Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others. Be envious of others and believe others envy them. Behave in an arrogant way, brag a lot and come across as conceited. Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office.
6:54 p.m.
Accusing and projecting: One tactic they may use is to shift attention from themselves to you, blaming you for toxic behavior without acknowledging or addressing their own. Gossiping and slandering: Since narcissists have fragile egos, disagreeing with them can make them perceive you as being unfair or unreasonable.
6:54 p.m.
Yeah I don't think Sunny's argument was narcissistic
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genesischaos
I'm not rehashing it, I explained it earlier
here
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I mean I find it silly u can't explain yourself one more time, but I read Sunny's argument and it's just not narcissistic
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Not continuing a fruitless argument
6:56 p.m.
I'll be back at a later time when hopefully others are on and decide to contribute
6:56 p.m.
slay ig
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b_nickilaugh
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Im sorry Sunny LMFAO
6:58 p.m.
Don't worry, u were just expressing your POE + thoughts
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meme_skailaugh
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ITS FINE LOL Sadbaby
3:10 a.m.
Hammer?
4:24 a.m.
Seems like
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Uh
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Things have gotten a weird thrn
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Turn
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Not a lot of votes???
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Alsooooo
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Wait for meee
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I need to say
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Like
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A lot
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Question though
4:25 a.m.
Why am I voted??
4:26 a.m.
I mean, I get why I am a suspected wolf
4:26 a.m.
But I wonder why specifically me
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:^
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I'll put input later
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Ziel :D
I'll put input later
You said this last time
4:29 a.m.
And did nothing
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I cannot blame you for that
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*for saying that
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Because it was my fault
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But I will this time
4:30 a.m.
Circumstances change
4:30 a.m.
:^
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charlie
britneyjean
did you change your pfp
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Yeah to some random ass guy
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how come
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Because of thing, I'll take even more time before coming back…
5:06 a.m.
*things
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genesischaos
how come
bc it’s funny
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charlie
bc it’s funny
XD Sounds fair.
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-06 6:19 a.m.
so other than the debate last night
6:19 a.m.
nothing really happened
6:19 a.m.
I think the only thing I can gather from Callahan and Genesis is that they are TvT
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so if you believe that gen's town, then it's just lily/ziel
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-06 7:25 a.m.
I keep hearing Mason claims did anyone actually hardclaim Mason yet?
7:26 a.m.
as right now, depending on who is PoE, it would be Sunny, Ziel or Lily, but if one of them claimed Mason, then that would narrow it down to 2
7:26 a.m.
out of the 3, Ziel is the most suspicious, so I'll be voting Ziel
7:27 a.m.
Er, it wont let me vote
7:27 a.m.
it's /vote [Player Name] right?
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan)
I keep hearing Mason claims did anyone actually hardclaim Mason yet?
sunny + EOTH (who is now nito) came out as masons
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan)
it's /vote [Player Name] right?
/vote, then click player and type their name to search it
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan)
I keep hearing Mason claims did anyone actually hardclaim Mason yet?
Me and Nito have hard-claimed Mason 🙏🏼
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Oh people replaced people
8:13 a.m.
I see...
8:13 a.m.
I'm catching up now
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charlie
I'm a bit confused on why you voted Ane over EOTH, when EOTH's read seems to be a bit more in depth?
Ohhh Hiii replying to this right now... I did it because Ane Wolfiness shouted to me more than what I said about EOTH
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Anemoia/Abyss
Also why does Gullio even tr me even though there's suspicious stuff piled on me?
Lucky, I got Null, right?
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Anemoia/Abyss
But Ziel is doing it without good reason except for like- "Dad Jokes hihihi"
Talkking to a ghost-- it's more of a feel with posts as an outline I don't know how to word it--
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charlie
Yeah this seems wayyyyy more like ziel, then a white knight
I guess it does... XD
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Guillo
White Knight is when a scum defends a townie to make them look partnered. Which is different from pocketing, pocketing is earning the townies favor by any means necessary.
:O That's deep...
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lilypetal
the part about me is really weird lol
I agree... I'm revising it heavily :^
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Anemoia/Abyss
Sorry Ziel :>
(Sorry as well T^T... I'm bad at this game--)
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SUNNY!!
Me and Nito have hard-claimed Mason 🙏🏼
Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-06 8:40 a.m.
oki
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Anemoia/Abyss
Nge has died R.I.P. XXXX-2023
Premonition 💀
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Ngekop
Ziel even asked me for permission to out a sl on me that game and hesitated on doing so
Metaaaaa
8:56 a.m.
OKAY
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I ADMIT IT
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I'M BAD AT BEING A TOWN T^T
8:56 a.m.
I'll just try again
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Ngekop
For instance calla and ziel def arent
I didn't know other people didn't see it that way 💀
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okay so want me to hammer?
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you sureee sus
9:08 a.m.
I don't ever want people hammering me unless this is another game and I have protections
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Oh
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Wait
9:09 a.m.
That's for kills
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;-;
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Please don't hammerrrr
9:09 a.m.
I'm still making my reads and fulfilling to make my will
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day's ending today regardless, and you have maj you've had a lot of time 💔
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Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
I don't know where I said that, but I was only saying that Guillo was not a hard wolf lean, or more as null, but I hope you look forward to my posts :'>
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I hope everyone's ready for meeeeee
9:51 a.m.

READS:

  • Ngekop (Hard Town Read -> Confirmed Town)
    • (I TOLD YOU SO!!! Mixed emotions... this is such a relief, knowing Nge is town but more of a pain because I was right about him and death confirmed him ;-;)
9:51 a.m.
  • Before dying, he left thoughts, of course. Which are:
He thinks I am scum (sadly...) His PoE is Ziel/Genesis/EOTH. Genesis is a good lynch because if EOTH really is mason, and Nge's greatness comes shining through, Genesis will be a good lynch. Me being a part of it is a let-down, when I know in myself whether I am not town or am.
9:51 a.m.
That's supposed to be subpoint okie
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  • Anemoia[>>>Abyss] (Wolf Lean -> Confirmed Town)
    • I find it surprising that Ane is Town. It was a purely reasonable reason for voting... Do you think the wagon is pure town? 💀. I don't. Guillo seems suspicious jumping on a wagon with two of his scum leans, namely me and Sunny.
9:51 a.m.
  • genesischaos (IA, Null Scum -> Strong Town Lean)
    • I think this is one of the cases where I think Genesis is town because he thinks I'm wolf for the most sensible reasons. I also cannot believer I survived D1 lynch when I was top wagon and I started the next (which is based on my reasoning but I don't think of it too much because my reason is legitimate for me. I am thanking you for your sensibility. I feel like this is a strong and good reason for me to follow their reads. (Of course not about me because I always get wolf read whether I am town or not.)
9:52 a.m.
  • Callahan (Strong Town Lean)
    • Calla is how she is as town. She ALWAYS helps town progress. I haven't been in a game where Calla is mafia, but I can see sincere towniness now that the wolfy filter is gone. She always explains in-depthly, resulting in game progress. She did so ever since the beginningggg!!!
9:52 a.m.
  • SUNNY (Town Lean -> Almost Confirmed Town)
    • I don't get Sunny. I think you, Sunny, are town. And there's the Mason claim which I wholeheartedly believe to be legitimate. No one argues with it.
9:53 a.m.
  • EasyOnTheHills -> Nito (Wolf Lean -> Almost Confirmed Town)
    • I believe Sunny and EOTH's claims are true and there would be no need to believe otherwise unless someone counterclaims. Which, no one is.
9:53 a.m.
I didn't dwell on them much because the facts are mostly right there
9:53 a.m.
  • lilypetal (Town Lean -> Potential Scum)
    • I don't know where to start and end this. I believe Lily's town but based on my list, you're the least town, and I am lacking one mafia, so... ahhhhhhhh!! Putting you to Wolf Suspect for now until I find other fur trails...
9:53 a.m.
  • Guillo -> Duncan (Scum Lean)
    • I am not SLing Guillo because of voting Ane Town, but because of jumping in on a wagon (I don't think he agreed to, yet Nge did so as well) where me and Sunny are. If I'm wrong about this I don't know anymore :<.
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SO
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To conclude
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Town Nge Ane genesischaos Callahan SUNNY!! EOTH/Nito Lily Guillo/Duncan Wolf
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Thereforeeeeee
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With that
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I am gonna head to bed
9:55 a.m.
My head is aching with all this thinking
9:55 a.m.
:^
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GUILLO SHOULD BE VOTED OUT
9:56 a.m.
Not like this is gonna change votes
9:56 a.m.
But town really should
9:56 a.m.
:^
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Slot
9:56 a.m.
Guillo slot
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yeah
10:01 a.m.
just end the day
10:01 a.m.
lol
10:05 a.m.
Hammer me
10:06 a.m.
I'm only one other town 💀
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if ziel flips town lily/gen or calla/duncan imo
10:08 a.m.
PoE
10:08 a.m.
Is amazing
10:08 a.m.
I think we'll be able to win
10:08 a.m.
As long as Masons are Masons
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Day 3 Top
Caitlin pinned a message to this channel. 2023-11-07 7:14 p.m.
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Hola
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-07 7:19 p.m.
Alo
7:20 p.m.
It's oki Lune
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Ag rip Sunny
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Ziel :D
That's impossible, because I don't see you in mafia-chat
Lmao
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Ziel :D
  • genesischaos (IA, Null Scum)
    • Busy, maybe? Negatively busy. Not much to go on. ;-;. They leave a bad impression.
I still think this is partnered af
7:28 p.m.
I've almost fully read spew. Still feel the same as yesterday
7:28 p.m.
Gene -> calla game should end. It should just be gene
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I like how ur the second in my thing 😭 Gene -> Lily
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charlie
I like how ur the second in my thing 😭 Gene -> Lily
i think that's logical
12:14 a.m.
regardless of alignment rly
12:14 a.m.
if ur a wolf im ur f3 ml
12:14 a.m.
if it's guillo's slot we probs find eachother in f3
12:14 a.m.
and it's chill
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Well considering I'm not Mafia, and Guillo was not on Ziel's team I highly suggest you reconsider
1:56 a.m.
I wouldn't have argued with the others in that way and needlessly put suspicion on myself unless I was actually trying to work out who Maf is
1:56 a.m.
In my mind its lily -> calla
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genesischaos
Well considering I'm not Mafia, and Guillo was not on Ziel's team I highly suggest you reconsider
What do you mean by this?
2:26 a.m.
Like what confirmation did you get that Guillo was not on Ziel's team?
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charlie
Like what confirmation did you get that Guillo was not on Ziel's team?
Well there isn't such a thing as confirmation in this game until people are voted off, but iirc you agreed with me
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charlie
Yeah they aren’t
here
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charlie
What do you mean by this?
I mean what I typed, it's a bad vote because im town
2:48 a.m.
Oh you're objecting to my use of the word "was". I said "was" because I'm referring to a comment I made in the past
2:49 a.m.
So according to my earlier statement, I said that Guillo and Ziel were not on the same team, and I'm restating that
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genesischaos
In my mind its lily -> calla
Why me first
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genesischaos
Well considering I'm not Mafia, and Guillo was not on Ziel's team I highly suggest you reconsider
Where is guillo conf town?
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genesischaos
So according to my earlier statement, I said that Guillo and Ziel were not on the same team, and I'm restating that
Idgi
6:14 a.m.
Why am I a wolf exactly besides voting you
6:14 a.m.
I won't accept poe reasons
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lilypetal
Why me first
Well it's either you or calla assuming my call on Guillo is correct. I'm putting more sus on you because of the conversation I had earlier with Calla where it looked like she was trying to use reasoning (even though I didn't agree with all of it) and was engaging with me
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lilypetal
Where is guillo conf town?
When did I say he was "conf" town? I just said you can't confirm anything until people are voted off
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Which conversation
6:15 a.m.
In day 2?
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genesischaos
When did I say he was "conf" town? I just said you can't confirm anything until people are voted off
Yeah I see your posts were just weird
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My logic was that he was on opposite teams to Ziel if I read the ane votes properly
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genesischaos
My logic was that he was on opposite teams to Ziel if I read the ane votes properly
Can you explain this?
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lilypetal
I won't accept poe reasons
And you're actually doing it again, complaining rather than engaging with what i said
6:16 a.m.
Calla was much more cooperative
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lilypetal
Can you explain this?
I can link the post
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genesischaos
I had to finish my thoughts, it was distracting me when I studied: I don’t think Guillo+Ziel are maf together, it’s devastating getting a mafia voted off n1. It wouldn’t make sense for Ziel to change her mind about Guillo getting voted off, only for Guillo to vote for his mafia buddy Ziel (when the tide turned). So I’m suggesting either Guillo or Ziel is mafia or they’re both town. If they’re both town, by elimination that makes Callahan and lily mafia. So the pairs I have are Calla/lily (nge didn’t have) Guillo/Calla (nge didn’t have) Guillo/lily (nge didn’t have) Ziel/calla (nge didn’t have) Ziel/lily (nge didn’t have) Which inclines me to disregard nge’s conclusions, or maybe I’m overthinking and the collaboration between Guillo and Ziel was not good and the outcome was serendipitous.
this one here
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That's not complaining I'm just telling you that unless your reasoning for putting me first is good I'll vote u
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genesischaos
Calla was much more cooperative
Cooperative doesn't mean town btw
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So based on the post I linked it has to be you or Calla given my call on Guillo is correct
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genesischaos
I had to finish my thoughts, it was distracting me when I studied: I don’t think Guillo+Ziel are maf together, it’s devastating getting a mafia voted off n1. It wouldn’t make sense for Ziel to change her mind about Guillo getting voted off, only for Guillo to vote for his mafia buddy Ziel (when the tide turned). So I’m suggesting either Guillo or Ziel is mafia or they’re both town. If they’re both town, by elimination that makes Callahan and lily mafia. So the pairs I have are Calla/lily (nge didn’t have) Guillo/Calla (nge didn’t have) Guillo/lily (nge didn’t have) Ziel/calla (nge didn’t have) Ziel/lily (nge didn’t have) Which inclines me to disregard nge’s conclusions, or maybe I’m overthinking and the collaboration between Guillo and Ziel was not good and the outcome was serendipitous.
Meh this doesn't feel like much
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lilypetal
Cooperative doesn't mean town btw
Okay, then I can dismiss the way anyone plays the game then
6:17 a.m.
Either it's all relevant, or none of it is
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Like I get your point and it's probs right because guillo's slot was already towny but it feels a lil stretchy
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Lily I'm just trying to work out who mafia is
6:18 a.m.
I'm not trying to be antagonistic
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Where was calla cooperative?
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I'm using my faculties as I can
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genesischaos
I'm not trying to be antagonistic
Wat
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lilypetal
Where was calla cooperative?
Well I'm interpreting Calla engaging with what I'm saying as being cooperative
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Where
6:19 a.m.
Today or day 2
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It would've been day 2
6:19 a.m.
Ill link where I mean
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Alright
6:19 a.m.
Yeah please do
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charlie
I just realized I miss read what you said, ignore what I said
this part of the convo
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Seems like a low bar. Just a misunderstanding
6:21 a.m.
Hard to really read that as AI imo
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AI?
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Alignment indicative
6:22 a.m.
I'm basically saying that calla's posts there don't really feel like of game importance, it's something I could see someone making as either alignment
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lilypetal
Seems like a low bar. Just a misunderstanding
I am preferencing chat activity because it seemed like she was trying to find mafs
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Because as a wolf or town she could misread your post
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I'm not highlighting the fact that she disagreed with me or misunderstood me per se, I'm highlighting the fact that she was engaging wiht me
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I'm engaging with you rn
6:23 a.m.
Am I town for that or bottom poe
6:24 a.m.
Wolves have to fake processes
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She engaged with my reasoning behind the ane vote in more detail
6:24 a.m.
Still a bit insufficient but it was enough to convince me she's switched on
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lilypetal
I'm engaging with you rn
Which is good
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Tbh I don't really like callas posting there at all
6:25 a.m.
Kinda sr it
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Can you explain why you sr it
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Unsure. Maybe playstyle clash
6:27 a.m.
I'll probs read calla's iso tomorrow
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Gn
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before you go
6:27 a.m.
is it US time the day ends?
6:27 a.m.
want to make sure I'm not asleep again
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-08 8:46 a.m.
alo
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@Halara Nightmare (Duncan) whats ur solve
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-08 4:49 p.m.
My solve?
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genesischaos
Well considering I'm not Mafia, and Guillo was not on Ziel's team I highly suggest you reconsider
Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-08 4:54 p.m.
When I read this this morning it felt tmi, but I havent had time today to actually discuss it or read it more thoroughly @lilypetal Reason it feels TMI is because they knew Guillo (My Slot) was not on Ziels team, or thats how it is worded at least.
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like
4:57 p.m.
whats ur poe
4:57 p.m.
its gene and who then
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-08 4:59 p.m.
There's only one Mafia left, so I think it's Genesis, if not I wonder if it's been quiet scum all game
4:59 p.m.
idt there has been a lot of interference, I may reflect what could be TvT
5:00 p.m.
Who was the other Mason again?
5:01 p.m.
OH
5:01 p.m.
Nito came out as the mason
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I forgot that thwt've barely been here
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at all
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they've
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*
5:02 p.m.
Genesis, Callahan, Lily, Myself and Nito is left
5:03 p.m.
Nito is Mason with 0 debate
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-08 6:18 p.m.
Funny memes
6:18 p.m.
Got prodded
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>I'm still thinking
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did not
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mean for myself to be prodded
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I still think gene is the right choice
7:14 p.m.
sorry I been busy
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan)
When I read this this morning it felt tmi, but I havent had time today to actually discuss it or read it more thoroughly @lilypetal Reason it feels TMI is because they knew Guillo (My Slot) was not on Ziels team, or thats how it is worded at least.
I clearly outlined why it was very unlikely for Guillo to be on Ziel's team
10:19 p.m.
If me giving you my conclusions is TMI then what's the point in saying anythinf
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charlie
I still think gene is the right choice
Well unless I misread my role card I can tell you it is not the right choice
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lilypetal
I'll probs read calla's iso tomorrow
What did you think
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genesischaos
Oh you're objecting to my use of the word "was". I said "was" because I'm referring to a comment I made in the past
I also suggest Duncan read this
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genesischaos
What did you think
O
3:21 a.m.
I kinda forgot abt mafia
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genesischaos
If me giving you my conclusions is TMI then what's the point in saying anythinf
This feels a bit caught for the wrong reasons ngl
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lilypetal
This feels a bit caught for the wrong reasons ngl
idk what that means
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As in it feels like you're frustration comes from feeling like you're caught for something that isn't even that wolfy
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Well I can't be caught for anything considering I'm not mafia, but I am kinda confused/frustrated that that Duncan/Guillo even susses me here
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What do you think of their catchup
3:26 a.m.
And thoughts
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Still towny?
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Well I'm not ruling out the possibility of me being wrong
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I think my problem with you rn is twofold
3:27 a.m.
1) spew looks bad and I don't rly vibe with your play
3:27 a.m.
2) you're voting me and I don't buy that I'm a wolfread for anyone
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lilypetal
1) spew looks bad and I don't rly vibe with your play
Spew?
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lilypetal
2) you're voting me and I don't buy that I'm a wolfread for anyone
I still think it's you or Calla
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As in ziel's treatment of you was partnered
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genesischaos
I still think it's you or Calla
Yeah but you're still voting town
3:28 a.m.
Lmao
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lilypetal
Yeah but you're still voting town
Well I can't go based on what you say alone if I think there's a high chance youre maf
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There's a high chance I'm a wolf?
3:29 a.m.
Why
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lilypetal
As in ziel's treatment of you was partnered
Ziel hardly even posted in the chat, which is why I was fine voting her out
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genesischaos
Ziel hardly even posted in the chat, which is why I was fine voting her out
She had a lot of posts wdym
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No, she posted a lot at the end of the day right before she was about to be voted
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Had a lot of posts day 1
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And she posted right before the previous day before the vote changed to ane, then she left early
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lilypetal
Had a lot of posts day 1
They didn't really add anything to the convo
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Doesn't change the fact she left spew
3:30 a.m.
Well yeah she was a wolf
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I think I said this in my schizo post
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Why is there a high chance I'm a wolf
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It's the same reason as before
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I was under the impression your vote was just like a shrug you sorta tr calla and tr guillo slot (edited)
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There is 1 mason, 1 "confirmed" townie, and that leaves you and Calla
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Now it's high chance?
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well 50% is a high chance
3:31 a.m.
its much higher than 25%
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That's not a reason to vote tho. A coin flip is w/e
3:31 a.m.
Look, regardless of alignment you're dying today unless you work with me
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lilypetal
That's not a reason to vote tho. A coin flip is w/e
why is this surprising to you? i've already said this and now you're acting differently this time
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So why vote me
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lilypetal
Look, regardless of alignment you're dying today unless you work with me
well if maf kills me that'd be dumb with a mason alive
3:32 a.m.
especially with you sussing me
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No like everyone alive wants to elim you
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(assuming its Calla)
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lilypetal
No like everyone alive wants to elim you
They haven't even read the recent convo
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I don't think it'll change much
3:33 a.m.
They're all afk
3:33 a.m.
Sucks if you're town
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wasnt callahan here at the same time the previous day
3:33 a.m.
or was that a few hours later
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Because I don't think I get there and duncan/calla are kinda silent
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"I don't think I get there"?
3:36 a.m.
Hmm
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lilypetal
Because I don't think I get there and duncan/calla are kinda silent
The more I think about it
3:37 a.m.
Calla's very last messages were kind of completely unhelpful (she continued the argument about sunny for no reason, to try to make me look bad). And the fact that she's not here now and you are means you're more willing to find the evil (or you're doing a high IQ play)
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Just trying to solve
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Then drops a message the next day
3:38 a.m.
Saying "I think gene is the right choice"
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I'm gonna sleep, I'll reread stuff and maybe change my mind tomorrow
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ill unvote for now then
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If you unvote I will too then
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its AUS time here so if I'm not here I'm asleep
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But I do think I'll vote you and worse case scenario I clutch in f3
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but ill be up before 10 tomorrow
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Yeah I figure
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alright sleep well
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genesischaos
Calla's very last messages were kind of completely unhelpful (she continued the argument about sunny for no reason, to try to make me look bad). And the fact that she's not here now and you are means you're more willing to find the evil (or you're doing a high IQ play)
girl? I'm just actually busy in real life, it doesn't mean I'm less willing to find evil LOL? You literally called Sunny a narcissist like tf ?
10:13 a.m.
I'm pretty sure 100% its just gene now, if we reach a f3 which I don't find at all likely, I'm more than willing to reread every single message in this game and reanalyze it all.
10:17 a.m.
I do apologize for not giving this game more time, but I'm kind of stacked with outside stuff such as my studies, which I find more important than a mafia. So, I apologize regardless if that is upsetting.
10:17 a.m.
The only thing I actually been thinking due to last game I been with Ziel when she was mafia, is her read list
10:20 a.m.
Last game she thought Nge was mafia, when she was mafia, and nge was actually mafia that game as well, while she did place Guillo's slot as mafia throughout the whole game, his overall gameplay excuses the doubt for right now, if we reach a f3 I'll look more into it, but at this point I'm pretty sure it just Gene.
10:23 a.m.
Gene expanded on several people last day, and gave odds to all of us as mafia expect Guillo's slot, rather than just a set POE, which I'm pretty sure was trying to cause people to not vote Ziel. We had the most USELESS convo, and even though I was a potential mafia in his eyes, he didn't even try to push me, I kept asking repeatedly what is the issue? But there wasn't? There was no issue at all with anything I done.
10:28 a.m.
You don't know how to push anybody as a potential mafia because there is nothing to push and you use EOD knowledge, you ignored the rest of the days like? You limited yourself to a specific time frame to make your ideas make sense and open the possibilities to other slots
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genesischaos
Saying "I think gene is the right choice"
Bc your in my POE?
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I truly think the only reason why Lily is higher than me in your POE is because Duncan said about your whole argument and me responding back was most likely a t/t interaction.
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genesischaos
There is 1 mason, 1 "confirmed" townie, and that leaves you and Calla
Guillo slot isn't a confirmed slot, it's just way more likely town than mafia.
10:49 a.m.
Due to how the day played out, before omg? EOD? 🙀
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Yeh it's just like not calla here
2:19 p.m.
Lmao
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charlie
You don't know how to push anybody as a potential mafia because there is nothing to push and you use EOD knowledge, you ignored the rest of the days like? You limited yourself to a specific time frame to make your ideas make sense and open the possibilities to other slots
Specifically I vibe with this a lot
2:20 p.m.
I just feel like gene's solving is peculiar
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charlie
You don't know how to push anybody as a potential mafia because there is nothing to push and you use EOD knowledge, you ignored the rest of the days like? You limited yourself to a specific time frame to make your ideas make sense and open the possibilities to other slots
Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-09 2:22 p.m.
and that would explain the lack of game interference
2:24 p.m.
If Scum is only focusing on EOD then there they lose leverage in throwing shade and pushing players based on overall content
2:29 p.m.
I'll place my vote as I wont be online for EoD most likely, but my vote will be Gene, I'm still adamant on my own thoughts and Callahan's point regarding Gene adds to it I think, regarding Gene's main point of content being solely EoD Related, tying in with the lack of informative debate
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Omg hi 😍
11:46 a.m.
Thank u for voting me imgaslightingyou
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-11 2:23 p.m.
funny
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@charlie GRATZ
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Seany148
@charlie GRATZ
OMG THANK U ❤️
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I'm not making it NOOO
2:49 p.m.
RIP the dream
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Gl to the semi advances and I hope to see one of y’all at least in there!
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charlie
Thank u for voting me imgaslightingyou
I didnt know who to vote after you and lily lmao
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan)
funny
Why didnt you want to advance idgi
3:25 p.m.
But rip ig
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oh i can talk here
3:32 p.m.
gg to whoever won
3:32 p.m.
you played
3:32 p.m.
well
3:32 p.m.
i can assume that
3:32 p.m.
cus you won
3:32 p.m.
if you didnt win
3:32 p.m.
then you also probably played well
3:32 p.m.
i cant assume that
3:32 p.m.
cus you didnt win
3:32 p.m.
but uh
3:32 p.m.
whatever
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Ngekop
I didnt know who to vote after you and lily lmao
I voted for u, lily, guillo so duncan, and sunny
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I ended up voting uh
3:42 p.m.
Calla lily abyss duncan
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i voted duncan, nge, calla, and nito lmao
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-11 4:03 p.m.
>not sure why I was voted at all lol
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan)
>not sure why I was voted at all lol
Who else tbf
4:14 p.m.
Also ig guillo kinda had smth to do with it
4:15 p.m.
Hard to like rank replacements tbf especially when they enter when the game is p much solved
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-11 4:55 p.m.
Ggs
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Ngekop
Calla lily abyss duncan
Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-11 4:56 p.m.
Meh? Tanks I voted Nge, Calla, Duncan, Lily
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Congrat guys and sorry i had to sub out
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-11 5:41 p.m.
It's fine!
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Guillo
Congrat guys and sorry i had to sub out
I wouldve voted you without any doubt ngl
5:52 p.m.
Maybe 3rd but still
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Maybe 3rd but still
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Maybe 3rd but still
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-11 6:12 p.m.
Maybe 3rd but still
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Halara Nightmare (Duncan) 2023-11-11 6:19 p.m.
Maybe 3rd but still
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Why did it send twice wtf
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Anemoia/Abyss 2023-11-11 8:22 p.m.
Who knows
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